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<H2>Setting up and removing camp</H2>
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<p> - the first team who have to set up camp will take a long time to reach camp (as many bags) then will need hours to set up camp so its best if they pack the night before and set off early </p>
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<p> - in Balkonhoehle in 2024 the 3 night pushing camps seemed most productive - ideally these would leave mid-afternoon to get to camp in 4-5 hours, sleep night 1, full day pushing and sleep night 2, full day pushing and sleep night 3, pack up and exit</p>
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<p> - the last team who have to remove camp will need to take down plenty of large tacklesacks and, unless many people, they will need the surface derig team to help them to empty camp, ie 2 or more people need to do a bounce trip to camp to take bags out. In 2024, the Balkonhoehle camp had around 11 tacklebags (including Cavelink, 2 drill sets, tent, 5 sleeping bags and mats, multiple Daren drums, ropes, metalware, etc) plus 2 large tacklesacks of rope derigged from Mongol Rally. The ropes on Honeycomb (1 tacklesack) and Hangmans (1 tacklesack) were left rigged in 2024. </p></body></html>
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<p> - the last team who have to remove camp will need to take down plenty of large tacklesacks and, unless many people, they will need the surface derig team to help them to empty camp, ie 2 or more people need to do a bounce trip to camp to take bags out. In 2024, the Balkonhoehle camp had around 11 tacklebags (including Cavelink, 2 drill sets, tent, 5 sleeping bags and mats, multiple Daren drums, ropes, metalware, etc) plus 2 large tacklesacks of rope derigged from Mongol Rally. The ropes on Honeycomb (1 tacklesack) and Hangmans (1 tacklesack) were left rigged in 2024. This meant there was not that much rope that needed washing (Mongol Rally plus stuff removed from below camp) but a lot of camp bags to shift</p></body></html>
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