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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
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<h1>Configuring Filezilla to upload photos etc.</h1>
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UNDER REVISION
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[[This will have a configuration file to download and use..]]
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<p>Before continuing, make sure that you have the "cavey:beery" password for the expo server. You will need it.
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<p>Having installed Filezilla using the <a href="uploading.html#install">installation instructions</a>, you now need to import a configuration file to set it up to use with the public expo server.
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<ul>
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<li>Download the configuration file <a download href="zilla-uploads.xml">zilla-uploads.xml</a> to your default downloads folder. (Select the option to download it in the pop-up, you don't want to open it in a web browser.)
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<li>Open Filezilla and start it running.
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<li>Click on the "File" menu item, and select the "Import..." command, this will open a file browser on your local machine
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<li>Navigate to your default downloads folder and select the <b>zilla-uploads.xml</b> file.
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<li>Now select the "Bookmarks" menu item: at the bottom of the drop-down menu you will see "Expo-uploads". Click on it.
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<li>You will now be prompted for the password for the expo server. This is the "cavey:beery" one which we never write down or write in emails. Get it verbally or by phone or secure text message from another expoer.
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<li>Now you are in and can copy and move files anywhere. But please don't: stick to copying files from your machine (the left window) to the server (the right window):<br><br>
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<a href="fzexample.png" border=2><img src="fzexample.png" align=center width=65%></a><br>(Click to enlarge).
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</ul>
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<p>
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but it's easy, just connect to ftp://expo.survex.com and type in the usual password when a popup asks you. Go to the folder /expofiles/uploads and dump your stuff there. Then ask someone who knows to move it to the right place.
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Once you have uploaded your files, ask someone who knows to move them to the right place.
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<h2>More expert use</h2>
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Instead of putting everything in /expofiles/uploads/ why not do it properly? Go back to the "Uploading Photos" page and find out.
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Instead of putting everything in /expofiles/uploads/ why not do it properly? Go back to <a href="uploading.html#experienced">uploading instructions - experienced users</a> and find out.
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<hr />
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Back to <a href="uploading.html">Uploading instructions</a> using Filezilla.
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were derived from it and will therefore also be wrong.</p>
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<p>As far as we are aware, all of these points which we have visited are
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correct, with the exception of 7/11 on the col (ie. the most useful point,
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nearest Top Camp), which seems to be out by an angular error of 25 or 26°
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from the Nase point. In the table, point 14/16 is also noted as possibly
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being dodgy, but we have no real indication of why.</p>
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correct, with the exception of 7/11 on the col between the SMK ridge and
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the Nase (not far the old Nase Top Camp), which seems to be out by an angular
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error of 25 or 26° from the Nase point. In the table, point 14/16 is also
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noted as possibly being dodgy, but we have no real indication of why.</p>
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<p>Expo (and indeed, the kataster) has now moved over to using the same system as
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the rest of the world, ie. UTM based on the WGS84 datum. So it is unfortunate that
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the points in the table below haven't been translated (and neitehr, it seems have
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the ones in the survex files). Various people at various times have located the points
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with GPS, and those fixes I've found are also included here in UTM zone 33T form.</p>
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<p>This table shows the coordinates of the laser points in UTM using the WGS84
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datum, which is the coordinate system we now use for the expo dataset (and
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which the Austrian's kataster also now uses). If you want the original
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coordinates, see the <i>*fix</i> commands in the file fixedpts/laser.svx
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in the Survex dataset.</p>
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<table class="trad">
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<tr><td>point</td><td>Y (east)</td><td>X (north)</td><td>Altitude</td><td>where ?</td></tr>
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<tr><td>KT114-96</td><td>36670.37</td><td>(52)83317.43</td><td>1903.97</td><td>Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel Trig point</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0</td><td>36386.56</td><td>(52)82804.16</td><td>1815.45</td><td>Hilfstandpunkt (hillock N of <a href="../../1623/161/top.htm">161</a>)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/1</td><td>36093.56</td><td>(52)82337.43</td><td>1782.35</td><td>Between <a href="../../1623/156/156.html">156</a> and <a href="../../1623/201.htm">201</a> cloth labelled "0/1" replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/1" (1999)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/2</td><td>36029.92</td><td>(52)82432.14</td><td>1750.06</td><td>Near</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/3</td><td>35866.51</td><td>(52)82424.03</td><td>1710.16</td><td>Near</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/4</td><td>35927.72</td><td>(52)82537.57</td><td>1687.45</td><td><a href="../../1623/145/145.html">Wolfhöhle</a></td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/5</td><td>36005.96</td><td>(52)82782.82</td><td>1690.70</td><td>up gully and left from <a href="../../1623/107.htm">107</a>
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tatty cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/5" 1998</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/6</td><td>35873.09</td><td>(52)82944.29</td><td>1647.78</td><td>Near <a href="../../1623/76/76.htm">76</a> - between the three entrances. Very faded blue cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/6" in 2006</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/6 UTM 33T</td><td>0410719</td><td>52821888</td><td>1652.14</td><td>AERW's Oregon 300, 2015-08-03, GPS a foot above the tag</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/7</td><td>35419.56</td><td>(52)82237.16</td><td>1769.77</td><td>Bräuning Nase</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/8</td><td>36040.75</td><td>(52)81522.72</td><td>1732.39</td><td>Felskuppe im Bereich des Vd. Schwarzmooskogel (Weiße Warze, The Nipple, Bunter's Bulge)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/9</td><td>35395.41</td><td>(52)81044.60</td><td>1588.31</td><td>Elchhöhle <a href="../../noinfo/1623/31.htm">1623/31</a>, Punkt am Weg</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/10</td><td>35620.23</td><td>(52)81945.22</td><td>1629.97</td><td>Kratzer Valley below the col</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/11</td><td>35659.16</td><td>(52)82394.55</td><td>1682.67</td><td>Schwarzmoossattel (the col) - <i>we believe this is in error</i></td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/12</td><td>35924.02</td><td>(52)81699.80</td><td>1725.04</td><td></td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/13</td><td>36171.86</td><td>(52)81947.11</td><td>1775.14</td><td></td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/14</td><td>36458.17</td><td>(52)81700.42</td><td>1689.48</td><td>Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle <a href="../../noinfo/1623/40.htm">1623/40a</a></td></tr>
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<tr><td>14/15</td><td>36464.69</td><td>(52)81751.21</td><td>1686.66</td><td></td></tr>
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<tr><td>14/16</td><td>36558.32</td><td>(52)81537.13</td><td>1660.39</td><td>(possibly dodgy ?)</td></tr>
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<tr><th>Code</th><th> Easting</th><th> Northing</th><th> Altitude</th><th>
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Description</th></tr>
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<tr><td>KT114-96</td><td> 411524.92</td><td> 5282241.69</td><td> 1950.78</td><td>
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Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel Trig point</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0</td><td> 411230.25</td><td> 5281734.79</td><td> 1862.27</td><td>
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Hilfstandpunkt (hillock N of <a href="../../1623/161/top.htm">161</a>)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/1</td><td> 410927.39</td><td> 5281274.61</td><td> 1829.18</td><td>
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Between <a href="../../1623/156/156.html">156</a> and <a href="../../1623/201.htm">201</a>. Cloth labelled "0/1" replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/1" (1999)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/2</td><td> 410865.82</td><td> 5281370.64</td><td> 1796.89</td><td>
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Near 0/1</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/3</td><td> 410702.33</td><td> 5281366.04</td><td> 1756.99</td><td>
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Near 0/2</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/4</td><td> 410765.94</td><td> 5281478.20</td><td> 1734.28</td><td>
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<a href="../../1623/145/145.html">Wolfhöhle</a></td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/5</td><td> 410849.40</td><td> 5281721.63</td><td> 1737.52</td><td>
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up gully and left from <a href="../../1623/107.htm">107</a>
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tatty cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/5" 1998</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/6</td><td> 410720.07</td><td> 5281885.87</td><td> 1694.60</td><td>
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Near <a href="../../1623/76/76.htm">76</a> - between the three entrances. Very faded blue cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/6" in 2006</td></tr>
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<tr><td>0/7</td><td> 410251.61</td><td> 5281188.86</td><td> 1816.60</td><td>
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Bräuning Nase</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/8</td><td> 410857.13</td><td> 5280461.49</td><td> 1779.22</td><td>
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Felskuppe im Bereich des Vd. Schwarzmooskogel (Weiße Warze, The Nipple, Bunter's Bulge)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/9</td><td> 410201.88</td><td> 5279997.48</td><td> 1635.15</td><td>
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Elchhöhle <a href="../../noinfo/1623/31.htm">1623/31</a>. Punkt am Weg (point in the path)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/10</td><td> 410445.91</td><td> 5280892.78</td><td> 1676.80</td><td>
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Kratzer Valley below the col</td></tr>
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<tr><td>7/11</td><td> 410494.46</td><td> 5281341.02</td><td> 1729.50</td><td>
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Schwarzmoossattel (the col) - <i>we believe this is in error</i></td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/12</td><td> 410744.26</td><td> 5280640.97</td><td> 1771.87</td><td>
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</td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/13</td><td> 410997.27</td><td> 5280882.83</td><td> 1821.97</td><td>
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</td></tr>
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<tr><td>8/14</td><td> 411278.13</td><td> 5280630.13</td><td> 1736.31</td><td>
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Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle <a href="../../noinfo/1623/40.htm">1623/40a</a></td></tr>
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<tr><td>14/15</td><td> 411285.73</td><td> 5280680.75</td><td> 1733.49</td><td>
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</td></tr>
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<tr><td>14/16</td><td> 411374.72</td><td> 5280464.78</td><td> 1707.22</td><td>
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(possibly dodgy ?)</td></tr>
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</table>
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<p>These fixed points are accessible in the Survex dataset at
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fixedpts/laser.svx.</p>
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<p><img src="../../../icons/roadwk.png" class="icon" alt="" />A description of our own
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surface surveys in the area is under construction, and should eventually
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include details of how to find these laserfound points and other fixed
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points. Currently, locations of caves in the kataster may be quoted as these
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coordinates, or as Latitude/Longitude derived from the Austrian Alpine Club
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(OAV) map sheet 15/1, which does not have a grid. Trying to get all these
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locations into a single coordinate system is a priority, but will involve
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quite a lot of unglamorous surface surveying, so don't hold your breath...</p>
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<p>In some Austrian literature, the easting quoted is in a system labelled
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BMN. The Easting grid line +36000 (Gauß + Krüger, M31) is the
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same as BMN 486000, and translation appears to be a matter of simple
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<p>You do need to know the expo password.</p>
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<h3>Installing Filezilla</h3>
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<h3 id="install">Installing Filezilla</h3>
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<p>This software works identically on both Windows and Linux.
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<p>Filezilla is an "FTP client". This means that it connects to servers using a venerable service called "file transfer protocol" i.e. FTP. It looks a bit like copying files from one folder to another on your desktop but it works between different machines.
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<ul>
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<p>
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To make the admin's life easier, create your own folder in <pre>/home/expo/expofiles/uploads/</pre> with your name like this: <pre>/home/expo/expofiles/uploads/YourName/</pre> and put your files into that folder. ("YourName" should have no spaces, hyphens or underline characters.) So that the admin knpows who is responsible. And for goodness sake please don't upload lots of duplicate photos: cull them first to just the good ones.
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<h2>Experienced users</h2>
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<h2 id="experienced">Experienced users</h2>
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<p>OK the admin/nerd you have been asking to move the files to the right place is getting fed up and now wants you to put the uploaded photos in the right place yourself. This is where they go:
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<pre>
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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<FileZilla3 version="3.28.0" platform="*nix">
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<Servers>
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<Server>
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<Host>expo.survex.com</Host>
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<Port>22</Port>
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<Protocol>1</Protocol>
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<Type>0</Type>
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<User>expo</User>
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<Pass encoding="base64">notthepassword</Pass>
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<Logontype>1</Logontype>
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<TimezoneOffset>0</TimezoneOffset>
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<PasvMode>MODE_DEFAULT</PasvMode>
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<MaximumMultipleConnections>0</MaximumMultipleConnections>
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<EncodingType>Auto</EncodingType>
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<BypassProxy>0</BypassProxy>
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<Name>Expo-uploads</Name>
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<Comments />
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<Colour>0</Colour>
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<LocalDir>/home/</LocalDir>
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<RemoteDir>1 0 4 home 4 expo 9 expofiles 7 uploads</RemoteDir>
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<SyncBrowsing>1</SyncBrowsing>
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<DirectoryComparison>1</DirectoryComparison>
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<Name>Expo-uploads</Name>Expo-uploads<Bookmark>
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<Name>Expo-uploads</Name>
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<LocalDir>/home/</LocalDir>
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<RemoteDir>1 0 4 home 4 expo 9 expofiles 7 uploads</RemoteDir>
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</Bookmark>
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</Server>
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</Servers>
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</FileZilla3>
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