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Before continuing, make sure that you have the "cavey:beery" password for the expo server. You will need it. + +
Having installed Filezilla using the installation instructions, you now need to import a configuration file to set it up to use with the public expo server. +
-but it's easy, just connect to ftp://expo.survex.com and type in the usual password when a popup asks you. Go to the folder /expofiles/uploads and dump your stuff there. Then ask someone who knows to move it to the right place. +Once you have uploaded your files, ask someone who knows to move them to the right place.
As far as we are aware, all of these points which we have visited are -correct, with the exception of 7/11 on the col (ie. the most useful point, -nearest Top Camp), which seems to be out by an angular error of 25 or 26° -from the Nase point. In the table, point 14/16 is also noted as possibly -being dodgy, but we have no real indication of why.
+correct, with the exception of 7/11 on the col between the SMK ridge and +the Nase (not far the old Nase Top Camp), which seems to be out by an angular +error of 25 or 26° from the Nase point. In the table, point 14/16 is also +noted as possibly being dodgy, but we have no real indication of why. -Expo (and indeed, the kataster) has now moved over to using the same system as -the rest of the world, ie. UTM based on the WGS84 datum. So it is unfortunate that -the points in the table below haven't been translated (and neitehr, it seems have -the ones in the survex files). Various people at various times have located the points -with GPS, and those fixes I've found are also included here in UTM zone 33T form.
+This table shows the coordinates of the laser points in UTM using the WGS84 +datum, which is the coordinate system we now use for the expo dataset (and +which the Austrian's kataster also now uses). If you want the original +coordinates, see the *fix commands in the file fixedpts/laser.svx +in the Survex dataset.
| point | Y (east) | X (north) | Altitude | where ? |
| KT114-96 | 36670.37 | (52)83317.43 | 1903.97 | Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel Trig point |
| 0 | 36386.56 | (52)82804.16 | 1815.45 | Hilfstandpunkt (hillock N of 161) |
| 0/1 | 36093.56 | (52)82337.43 | 1782.35 | Between 156 and 201 cloth labelled "0/1" replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/1" (1999) |
| 0/2 | 36029.92 | (52)82432.14 | 1750.06 | Near |
| 0/3 | 35866.51 | (52)82424.03 | 1710.16 | Near |
| 0/4 | 35927.72 | (52)82537.57 | 1687.45 | Wolfhöhle |
| 0/5 | 36005.96 | (52)82782.82 | 1690.70 | up gully and left from 107 -tatty cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/5" 1998 |
| 0/6 | 35873.09 | (52)82944.29 | 1647.78 | Near 76 - between the three entrances. Very faded blue cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/6" in 2006 |
| 0/6 UTM 33T | 0410719 | 52821888 | 1652.14 | AERW's Oregon 300, 2015-08-03, GPS a foot above the tag |
| 0/7 | 35419.56 | (52)82237.16 | 1769.77 | Bräuning Nase |
| 7/8 | 36040.75 | (52)81522.72 | 1732.39 | Felskuppe im Bereich des Vd. Schwarzmooskogel (Weiße Warze, The Nipple, Bunter's Bulge) |
| 7/9 | 35395.41 | (52)81044.60 | 1588.31 | Elchhöhle 1623/31, Punkt am Weg |
| 7/10 | 35620.23 | (52)81945.22 | 1629.97 | Kratzer Valley below the col |
| 7/11 | 35659.16 | (52)82394.55 | 1682.67 | Schwarzmoossattel (the col) - we believe this is in error |
| 8/12 | 35924.02 | (52)81699.80 | 1725.04 | |
| 8/13 | 36171.86 | (52)81947.11 | 1775.14 | |
| 8/14 | 36458.17 | (52)81700.42 | 1689.48 | Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle 1623/40a |
| 14/15 | 36464.69 | (52)81751.21 | 1686.66 | |
| 14/16 | 36558.32 | (52)81537.13 | 1660.39 | (possibly dodgy ?) |
| Code | Easting | Northing | Altitude | + Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| KT114-96 | 411524.92 | 5282241.69 | 1950.78 | + Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel Trig point |
| 0 | 411230.25 | 5281734.79 | 1862.27 | + Hilfstandpunkt (hillock N of 161) |
| 0/1 | 410927.39 | 5281274.61 | 1829.18 | + Between 156 and 201. Cloth labelled "0/1" replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/1" (1999) |
| 0/2 | 410865.82 | 5281370.64 | 1796.89 | + Near 0/1 |
| 0/3 | 410702.33 | 5281366.04 | 1756.99 | + Near 0/2 |
| 0/4 | 410765.94 | 5281478.20 | 1734.28 | + Wolfhöhle |
| 0/5 | 410849.40 | 5281721.63 | 1737.52 | + up gully and left from 107 + tatty cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/5" 1998 |
| 0/6 | 410720.07 | 5281885.87 | 1694.60 | + Near 76 - between the three entrances. Very faded blue cloth replaced with alloy tag "LASER 0/6" in 2006 |
| 0/7 | 410251.61 | 5281188.86 | 1816.60 | + Bräuning Nase |
| 7/8 | 410857.13 | 5280461.49 | 1779.22 | + Felskuppe im Bereich des Vd. Schwarzmooskogel (Weiße Warze, The Nipple, Bunter's Bulge) |
| 7/9 | 410201.88 | 5279997.48 | 1635.15 | + Elchhöhle 1623/31. Punkt am Weg (point in the path) |
| 7/10 | 410445.91 | 5280892.78 | 1676.80 | + Kratzer Valley below the col |
| 7/11 | 410494.46 | 5281341.02 | 1729.50 | + Schwarzmoossattel (the col) - we believe this is in error |
| 8/12 | 410744.26 | 5280640.97 | 1771.87 | + |
| 8/13 | 410997.27 | 5280882.83 | 1821.97 | + |
| 8/14 | 411278.13 | 5280630.13 | 1736.31 | + Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle 1623/40a |
| 14/15 | 411285.73 | 5280680.75 | 1733.49 | + |
| 14/16 | 411374.72 | 5280464.78 | 1707.22 | + (possibly dodgy ?) |
These fixed points are accessible in the Survex dataset at -fixedpts/laser.svx.
- -
A description of our own
-surface surveys in the area is under construction, and should eventually
-include details of how to find these laserfound points and other fixed
-points. Currently, locations of caves in the kataster may be quoted as these
-coordinates, or as Latitude/Longitude derived from the Austrian Alpine Club
-(OAV) map sheet 15/1, which does not have a grid. Trying to get all these
-locations into a single coordinate system is a priority, but will involve
-quite a lot of unglamorous surface surveying, so don't hold your breath...
In some Austrian literature, the easting quoted is in a system labelled BMN. The Easting grid line +36000 (Gauß + Krüger, M31) is the same as BMN 486000, and translation appears to be a matter of simple diff --git a/handbook/uploading.html b/handbook/uploading.html index a4e9c51ec..500a34094 100644 --- a/handbook/uploading.html +++ b/handbook/uploading.html @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ which is the end result. But all you have to do is to upload the photos to the r
You do need to know the expo password.
-This software works identically on both Windows and Linux.
Filezilla is an "FTP client". This means that it connects to servers using a venerable service called "file transfer protocol" i.e. FTP. It looks a bit like copying files from one folder to another on your desktop but it works between different machines.
To make the admin's life easier, create your own folder in
/home/expo/expofiles/uploads/with your name like this:
/home/expo/expofiles/uploads/YourName/and put your files into that folder. ("YourName" should have no spaces, hyphens or underline characters.) So that the admin knpows who is responsible. And for goodness sake please don't upload lots of duplicate photos: cull them first to just the good ones. -
OK the admin/nerd you have been asking to move the files to the right place is getting fed up and now wants you to put the uploaded photos in the right place yourself. This is where they go:
diff --git a/handbook/zilla-uploads.xml b/handbook/zilla-uploads.xml new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c6234acb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/handbook/zilla-uploads.xml @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ + ++ diff --git a/years/1987/log.htm b/years/1987/log.htm index d2e38f6b8..a2ec0b962 100644 --- a/years/1987/log.htm +++ b/years/1987/log.htm @@ -532,7 +532,7 @@ Manchester Caving Club. So exit was made. the passage went a short way then a shaft (daylight) was seen, the passage continued but not explored. Straight ahead the passage went about 50 foot to a 30 foot pitch. This was bolted and descended into a large chamber. To the -left was another pitch about 30 foot deep, undescended. To the rifht was a +left was another pitch about 30 foot deep, undescended. To the right was a rift, further to the right was another rift with an ice-covered stone floor. There was also another passage next to this which is passed just before you get to the entrance passage - this also looked like it continued. A number @@ -551,7 +551,7 @@ believed to be completely disinformational, Ed.] (Juliette was there by 'voice connection')+ ++ +expo.survex.com +22 +1 +0 +expo +notthepassword +1 +0 +MODE_DEFAULT +0 +Auto +0 +Expo-uploads ++ 0 +/home/ +1 0 4 home 4 expo 9 expofiles 7 uploads +1 +1 +Expo-uploads Expo-uploads+ +Expo-uploads +/home/ +1 0 4 home 4 expo 9 expofiles 7 uploads +Had found entrance previous day while looking for another cave. Donned -oversuit over shorts and free climbed entrance shaft. Found amzingly small +oversuit over shorts and free climbed entrance shaft. Found amazingly small 'letter-box' slit and squeezed through to find pitch which seemed at least 15m, placed bolt and handed over to Chris and Becka who had changed into full gear. @@ -651,13 +651,13 @@ up to. Left first 2 pitches tackled. it was raining. With great reluctance, people were persuaded to go down holes rather than the bar at the first lull in the rainstorm. Andy led us to the cave which we descended at 4pm. Jared went down pitch first, trying not to -dislodge the pecarious boulders (especially the one providing the backup +dislodge the precarious boulders (especially the one providing the backup belay). Pitch only 15 ft - rift led off but not far before it choked, blocked off according to Jared. Jenny found a drafting slot which she dug out, until rocks started falling on her head. Probably carries on, but too suicidal. Chris found a 1985 vintage Mars Bar wrapper under a rock. Detackled, got a little lost on the way back, & got to the Loser Hut to meet the others, -about to start rescuing us (again) at 9. Bar closed, so everyine scoffed +about to start rescuing us (again) at 9. Bar closed, so everyone scoffed Chris' gluhwein in the tent instead, just to annoy the German couple in the caravan next door. @@ -698,7 +698,7 @@ went down first & traversed across, about 30m down, to look at a pitch (nearly filled with ice). Then carried on 10m down to bottom of snow slope, where the rift was - yes, you've guessed it - boulder choked. Becka came down & tried pulling rocks out since rift did carry on, but one rock was -jammed making it to tight, & there was no sign of a draught. Becka fouhgt +jammed making it to tight, & there was no sign of a draught. Becka fought her way up the snow slope first, while Chris had a poke at the pitch at the 30m level. He descended 10 ft down the 30ft hole beside the vertical ice/snow, but the rope was slicing like a cheesewire through a large chunk @@ -731,7 +731,7 @@ boulders in shaft."
"On the plateau discovered by its draught, but not really pushed", the guidebook says. and then the hole was lost for two years, -redicovered yesterday by MM etc... Awkward crawl over boulders 5m to a +rediscovered yesterday by MM etc... Awkward crawl over boulders 5m to a freeclimbable little pitch after a boulder squeeze. Reaches a phreatic tube: right silts up in boulders; left goes slowly along + down over snow & big big rocks to reach a huge chamber (is it perhaps 82 ?) + pitch of, say, 20m. @@ -835,7 +835,7 @@ saucepan for the survey trip. below Big Bertha, then surveyed back up to surface, getting very cold. Rest of us started bolted down ledges. Many rebelays later, got to the bttom of a big chamber (or continuation of other chamber) with a boulder-choked floor. -Mike had a good nose round, could find no snesible way on, though seems to +Mike had a good nose round, could find no sensible way on, though seems to continue further down, and drafts (q.strongly in places) through boulder chokes - could chuck stones down, but too tight and all v. loose. Chris & Becka descended the final small (~4m) pitch to small pool of water. @@ -896,7 +896,7 @@ bandage - burn hands, arms, neck and face !
Several beers were consumed and the following items of note were made: -
1) Someone in the Austrian club is aquiring our journals before they reach +
1) Someone in the Austrian club is acquiring our journals before they reach the appropriate person. In future copies should be sent to either:
Sepp Steinberger or Alfred Auer