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<center><h2>Bristol Exploration Club</h2></center> <h1>Bristol Exploration Club</h1>
The <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/john/index.htm">Bristol Exploration <p>The <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/john/index.htm">Bristol Exploration
Club</a> is one of the "elder clubs" of Mendip. They foster their own Club</a> is one of the "elder clubs" of Mendip. They foster their own reputation
reputation for worldwide expeditions by their slogan "The BEC gets for worldwide expeditions by their slogan "The BEC gets everywhere" seen on
everywhere" seen on stickers in the most unlikely places :-). They certainly stickers in the most unlikely places :-). They certainly visited the Totes
visited the Totes Gebirge of Austria well before expeditionary caving abroad Gebirge of Austria well before expeditionary caving abroad became
became commonplace. commonplace.</p>
<p>From 1965 to 1969, the BEC held expeditions to Austria, in the first <p>From 1965 to 1969, the BEC held expeditions to Austria, in the first couple
couple of years working with the Austrians in Raucherkarh&ouml;hle, then of years working with the Austrians in Raucherkarh&ouml;hle, then later doing
later doing much work in the already known cave of much work in the already known cave of <a
<a href="../../noinfo/1626/50.htm">Ahnenschacht</a>, on the slopes of href="../../noinfo/1626/50.htm">Ahnenschacht</a>, on the slopes of
Sch&ouml;nberg, in the north of the western massif of the Totes Gebirge. This Sch&ouml;nberg, in the north of the western massif of the Totes Gebirge. This is
is now a very major system, but even in 1967, it was a very serious now a very major system, but even in 1967, it was a very serious proposition,
proposition, being remote, and with a very deep entrance shaft, which became being remote, and with a very deep entrance shaft, which became epic in the wet,
epic in the wet, especially when tackled on ladders, as was the way in those especially when tackled on ladders, as was the way in those days.</p>
days.
<p>The BEC's explorations were reported in a series of articles in their <p>The BEC's explorations were reported in a series of articles in their
frequent (then monthly) newsletter the <b>Belfry Bulletin</b>, as well as frequent (then monthly) newsletter the <b>Belfry Bulletin</b>, as well as in
in other more widely available journals. Not all references in this list other more widely available journals. Not all references in this list have CTS
have CTS numbers, as most are too early, and nobody seems inclined to numbers, as most are too early, and nobody seems inclined to produce
produce retrospective CTS volumes. retrospective CTS volumes.</p>
<dl> <dl>
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 214</cite>, <b>Dachstein/Hirlatz/Raucher/Koppenbr&uuml;ller/Eisriesenwelt</b> <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 214</cite>,
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 222</cite>, <b>Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</b> <b>Dachstein/Hirlatz/Raucher/Koppenbr&uuml;ller/Eisriesenwelt</b></dd>
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 237 pp 93-97</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1967</b> <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 222</cite>,
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 239 (Jan 1968) pp 23-26</cite>, <b>Scientific work on 1967 trip</b> <b>Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</b></dd>
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 246 (Sep 1968) pp 130-138</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1968</b>, Alan Thomas <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 237 pp 93-97</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1967</b></dd>
<dt><dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 249 (Dec 1968) pp 198-204</cite>, <b>Drainage development in the Western Totes Gebirge</b>, Mike Luckwill <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 239 (Jan 1968) pp 23-26</cite>,
<dt>69.708<dd><cite>Cave Research Group of G.B. Newsletter 116 (June 1969) pp 7-9</cite> <b>A brief account of the history of the Ahnenschacht</b>, A.R.Thomas. <b>Scientific work on 1967 trip</b></dd>
<dt>69.709<dd><cite>Descent 5 (July 1969) pp 31-35</cite>, <b>British Team challenges Austria's Ahnenschacht</b>, A.R.Thomas. <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 246 (Sep 1968) pp 130-138</cite>,
<dt>69.707<dd><cite>Mendip Caving Group Newsletter 77 (August 1969) pp 1-3</cite>, <b>Austria 1969</b>, Greg Smith <b>Ahnenschacht 1968</b>, Alan Thomas</dd>
<dt>69.711<dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 259, (Oct 1969) pp 169-170</cite>, <b>New Austrian discovery (near Feuertal Ice Cave)</b>, Dave Yeandle. <dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 249 (Dec 1968) pp 198-204</cite>,
<dt>69.704<dd><cite>Shepton Mallet Caving Club Newsletter 6(5) (Oct 1969) pp 65-70</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1969 ... near Ebensee, Austria</b>, R.D.Craig <b>Drainage development in the Western Totes Gebirge</b>, Mike
<dt>69.710<dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 261 (Dec 1969) pp 200-203</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1969</b>, A.R.Thomas. Luckwill</dd>
<dt>69.704A<dd><cite>Shepton Mallet Caving Club Journal 4(8) (Dec 1969) pp 15-21</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1969 ... near Ebensee, Austria</b>, R.D.Craig <dt>69.708</dt>
<dd><cite>Cave Research Group of G.B. Newsletter 116 (June 1969) pp
7-9</cite> <b>A brief account of the history of the
Ahnenschacht</b>, A.R.Thomas.</dd>
<dt>69.709</dt>
<dd><cite>Descent 5 (July 1969) pp 31-35</cite>, <b>British Team
challenges Austria's Ahnenschacht</b>, A.R.Thomas.</dd>
<dt>69.707</dt>
<dd><cite>Mendip Caving Group Newsletter 77 (August 1969) pp
1-3</cite>, <b>Austria 1969</b>, Greg Smith</dd>
<dt>69.711</dt>
<dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 259, (Oct 1969) pp 169-170</cite>, <b>New
Austrian discovery (near Feuertal Ice Cave)</b>, Dave Yeandle.</dd>
<dt>69.704</dt>
<dd><cite>Shepton Mallet Caving Club Newsletter 6(5) (Oct 1969) pp
65-70</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1969 ... near Ebensee, Austria</b>,
R.D.Craig</dd>
<dt>69.710</dt>
<dd><cite>Belfry Bulletin 261 (Dec 1969) pp 200-203</cite>,
<b>Ahnenschacht 1969</b>, A.R.Thomas.</dd>
<dt>69.704A</dt>
<dd><cite>Shepton Mallet Caving Club Journal 4(8) (Dec 1969) pp
15-21</cite>, <b>Ahnenschacht 1969 ... near Ebensee, Austria</b>,
R.D.Craig</dd>
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<h1 lang=de>TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</h1> <h1 lang="de" xml:lang="de">TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</h1>
<p lang="de" xml:lang="de" style="text-align: center">
<p lang=de>Totes Gebirge West - Hintergras Totes Gebirge West - Hintergras</p>
<p align=right>Jean-Pierre Braun <p style="text-align: right"><b>Jean-Pierre Braun</b></p>
<p><b>Profondeur</b> : -854m<br />
<p><b>Profondeur </b>: -854m<br> <b>Altitude</b> : 1610m</p>
<p><b>Historique</b> : d&eacute;couvert en Juillet 1976 par F
<b>Altitude </b>: 1610m Vergier, attir&eacute; par un fort courant d'air froid sortant
d'une petite galerie. Exploration du 12 au 23 Juillet 1976 par
<p><b>Historique </b>: d&eacute;couvert en Juillet 1976 par F Vergier, l'A.C.Toulon ( li Aragnous ), Lou Darboun (Cavaillon) et
attir&eacute; par un fort courant d'air froid sortant d'une petite galerie. Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie. Poursuite de l'exploration au mois
Exploration du 12 au 23 Juillet 1976 par l'A.C.Toulon ( li Aragnous ), Lou d'Ao&ucirc;t 1977 par les m&ecirc;me groupes et ces individuels de
Darboun (Cavaillon) et Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie. Poursuite de la Tronche.</p>
l'exploration au mois d'Ao&ucirc;t 1977 par les m&ecirc;me groupes et ces <p><b>Description</b> : Depuis 1610m, altitude d l'entr&eacute;e,
individuels de la Tronche. jusque -287m, rien pour engendrer l'enthusiasme, mais un courant
d'air assez sensible. Le Gouffre est entrecoup&eacute; de
<p><b>Description </b>: Depuis 1610m, altitude d l'entr&eacute;e, jusque m&eacute;andre &eacute;troits: P8, P12, P17, P9, P20, P3, P12, P30,
-287m, rien pour engendrer l'enthusiasme, mais un courant d'air assez P7, P6, P9, P8, P7, P5, P34, P6, P8, P5, P9. A -287m, un P18 permet
sensible. Le Gouffre est entrecoup&eacute; de m&eacute;andre &eacute;troits: de d&eacute;boucher dans un grande salle. L'eau disparait dans les
P8, P12, P17, P9, P20, P3, P12, P30, P7, P6, P9, P8, P7, P5, P34, P6, P8, &eacute;boulis pour r&eacute;appara&icirc;tre dans toute une
P5, P9. A -287m, un P18 permet de d&eacute;boucher dans un grande salle. s&eacute;rie de puits arros&eacute;s dont le plus profond mesure
L'eau disparait dans les &eacute;boulis pour r&eacute;appara&icirc;tre dans 30m. Les crues ont emp&eacute;ch&eacute; l'exploration du fond de
toute une s&eacute;rie de puits arros&eacute;s dont le plus profond mesure cette branche &agrave; -456m, un puits d'une vingtaine de
30m. Les crues ont emp&eacute;ch&eacute; l'exploration du fond de cette m&egrave;tre &eacute;tait vraiment trop arros&eacute; pour
branche <20> -456m, un puits d'une vingtaine de m&egrave;tre &eacute;tait &ecirc;tre descendu. A -488m, un passage bas &eacute;tait aussi
vraiment trop arros&eacute; pour &ecirc;tre descendu. A -488m, un passage trop humide. De plus, le courant d'air &eacute;tait faible ou nul.
bas &eacute;tait aussi trop humide. De plus, le courant d'air &eacute;tait Dans la salle &agrave; -308m, une remont&eacute;e d'une quinzaine
faible ou nul. Dans la salle &agrave; -308m, une remont&eacute;e d'une de m&egrave;tres permet d'acceder &agrave; un m&eacute;andre
quinzaine de m&egrave;tres permet d'acceder &agrave; un m&eacute;andre fossile assez large ou souffle un sensible courant d'air. Au bout
fossile assez large ou souffle un sensible courant d'air. Au bout de 30m ce de 30m ce m&eacute;andre s'ouvre sur l'&eacute;norme puits des
m&eacute;andre s'ouvre sur l'&eacute;norme puits des Naufrag&eacute;s, Naufrag&eacute;s, P242m, d'une section moyennes de 15/25m !! Dans
P242m, d'une section moyennes de 15/25m !! Dans ce puits plusiers ce puits plusiers arriv&eacute;es d'eau venaient vraisemblement de
arriv&eacute;es d'eau venaient vraisemblement de la premi&egrave;re branche la premi&egrave;re branche explor&eacute;e. Le bas du puits se
explor&eacute;e. Le bas du puits se re...... un diaclase. L'explo 76 re...... un diaclase. L'explo 76 s'&eacute;tait arret&eacute;e au
s'&eacute;tait arret&eacute;e au sommet d'un puits estim&eacute; &agrave; sommet d'un puits estim&eacute; &agrave; 40m. Elle s'est poursuivie
40m. Elle s'est poursuivie en Ao&ucirc;t 77 pour aboutir au siphon dans deux en Ao&ucirc;t 77 pour aboutir au siphon dans deux r&eacute;seaux
r&eacute;seaux diff&eacute;rentes par P54, P88, P53, P25. Le fond du gouffre diff&eacute;rentes par P54, P88, P53, P25. Le fond du gouffre se
se trouve &agrave; -854m, donc &agrave; l'altitude 756m, niveau de la trouve &agrave; -854m, donc &agrave; l'altitude 756m, niveau de la
vall&eacute;e. vall&eacute;e.</p>
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<h1 lang="de">FEUERTALSYSTEM</h1> <h1 lang="de" xml:lang="de">FEUERTALSYSTEM</h1>
<p lang="de" xml:lang="de" style="text-align: center">Totes Gebirge West -
<p lang="de">Totes Gebirge West - Feuertal - Sch&ouml;nberg Feuertal - Sch&ouml;nberg</p>
<p><b>Profondeur</b> : -913m<br />
<p><b>Profondeur </b>: -913m<br> <b>Altitude</b> : 1950m</p>
<p><b>Historique</b> : connu d&egrave;s 1973 par les GSAB, mais non
<b>Altitude </b>: 1950m
<p><b>Historique </b>: connu d&egrave;s 1973 par les GSAB, mais non
explor&eacute; !!!!!!!! Explor&eacute; en 76 et 77 par Lou Barboun, explor&eacute; !!!!!!!! Explor&eacute; en 76 et 77 par Lou Barboun,
A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon et Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie. A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon et Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie.</p>
<p><b>Description</b> : voir <a href="fr/782012.htm">Sp&eacute;alp
<p><b>Description </b>: voir <a href="fr/782012.htm">Sp&eacute;alp no. 1</a>. no. 1</a>. Apartir de -700m, suite de petits puits jusqu'a -854m ou
Apartir de -700m, suite de petits puits jusqu'a -854m ou des conduites des conduites forc&eacute;es m&egrave;nent apr&egrave;s quatre
forc&eacute;es m&egrave;nent apr&egrave;s quatre puits &agrave; un siphon. puits &agrave; un siphon. Cote -913m.</p>
Cote -913m.
<p>A la cote -500m, une grande galerie fossile a &eacute;t&eacute; <p>A la cote -500m, une grande galerie fossile a &eacute;t&eacute;
explor&eacute;e sur 2 km et se direige vers l'&eacute;norme r&eacute;seau du explor&eacute;e sur 2 km et se direige vers l'&eacute;norme
<span lang="de"><a href="../../noinfo/1626/55.htm">Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</a></span> r&eacute;seau du <span lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a href=
(voir Sp&eacute;alp no. 1). Un puits de 211m a &eacute;t&eacute; "../../noinfo/1626/55.htm">Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</a></span> (voir
Sp&eacute;alp no. 1). Un puits de 211m a &eacute;t&eacute;
explor&eacute;, au bout de celle-ci, mais ne donne rien. La galerie explor&eacute;, au bout de celle-ci, mais ne donne rien. La galerie
continuerait en face ! Une jonction donnerait le profondeur de -1031m. continuerait en face ! Une jonction donnerait le profondeur de
-1031m.</p>
<p>La prospection en surface a permis de trouver deux nouvelles <p>La prospection en surface a permis de trouver deux nouvelles
entr&eacute;es: le "Velo Tracteur", 1779m d'altitude et le "Carcajau" 1735m entr&eacute;es: le "Velo Tracteur", 1779m d'altitude et le
qui donnent tout les deux dans la grande galerie fossile. "Carcajau" 1735m qui donnent tout les deux dans la grande galerie
fossile.</p>
<p>Ce gouffre n'est pas termin&eacute; et nous y verons probablement une <p>Ce gouffre n'est pas termin&eacute; et nous y verons
&eacute;quipe cette ann&eacute;e. probablement une &eacute;quipe cette ann&eacute;e.</p>
<p>J.C.Hans <acronym>GSAB</acronym></p>
<p>J.C.Hans <acronym>GSAB</acronym> <h2><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE WEST</span> ou
l'EXPLOSION</h2>
<h2><span lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE WEST</span> ou l'EXPLOSION</h2> <p>-913, -854, -607, -565, le tout &agrave; moins de 2km de
distance ! C'est en effet les cotes atteintes par les
<p>-913, -854, -607, -565, le tout &agrave; moins de 2km de distance ! C'est Fran&ccedil;ais au gouffre Quelli ou <span lang="de" xml:lang=
en effet les cotes atteintes par les Fran<61>ais au gouffre Quelli ou "de">Feuertal</span>, au <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<span lang="de">Feuertal</span>, au <span lang="de">Trunkemboldschacht</span> "de">Trunkemboldschacht</span> et par nous au Gouffre Ovni, et dans
et par nous au Gouffre Ovni, et dans une nouvelle branche de une nouvelle branche de l'<span lang="de" xml:lang=
l'<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. Pour tout ces gouffres voir les "de">Ahnenschacht</span>. Pour tout ces gouffres voir les
rensiegnements dans ce no. Nous avons report&eacute; l'article sur rensiegnements dans ce no. Nous avons report&eacute; l'article sur
l'<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> au prochain num&eacute;ro, car une l'<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> au prochain
tentative de jonction va &ecirc;tre r&eacute;alis&eacute;e par une Interclub num&eacute;ro, car une tentative de jonction va &ecirc;tre
fin Juin et nous pr&eacute;f&eacute;rons attendre les r&eacute;sultats r&eacute;alis&eacute;e par une Interclub fin Juin et nous
plut&ocirc;t que de publier plusieurs fois les m&ecirc;me topos. pr&eacute;f&eacute;rons attendre les r&eacute;sultats plut&ocirc;t
que de publier plusieurs fois les m&ecirc;me topos.</p>
<p>J.C.Hans <p>J.C.Hans</p>
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<center><font size=-1>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) <b lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</b> 2 (1978) pp 14-19</font> <p style="text-align: center; font-size: 65%">
<h1 lang="fr">GOUFFRE OVNI</h1></center> (<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) <b lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</b> 2 (1978) pp 14-19</p>
<p>The summer <acronym>GSAB</acronym> expedition to the <span lang="de">Totes <h1 lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GOUFFRE OVNI</h1>
Gebirge</span> has allowed the exploration of this new cave of 565m depth.
Certainly, it is a little eclipsed by its two neighbours
(<b lang="de">Kelli</b> and <b lang="fr">Emp&eacute;gadure</b>) but it
remains no less of an accomplishment for a young team, only just broken into
their first large-scale trip.
<p>The summer <acronym>GSAB</acronym> expedition to the <span lang=
"de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> has allowed the exploration
of this new cave of 565m depth. Certainly, it is a little eclipsed
by its two neighbours (<b lang="de" xml:lang="de">Kelli</b> and
<b lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Emp&eacute;gadure</b>) but it remains no
less of an accomplishment for a young team, only just broken into
their first large-scale trip.</p>
<p>For the location and discovery details, see the report in <p>For the location and discovery details, see the report in
<b lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</b> <acronym>GSAB-SSS</acronym> <b lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</b>
<a href="782012.htm">number 1</a>. <acronym>GSAB-SSS</acronym> <a href="782012.htm">number 1</a>.</p>
<h2>Description</h2> <h2>Description</h2>
<p>The entrance, a bedding plane unblocked because of a draught,
<p>The entrance, a bedding plane unblocked because of a draught, gives access gives access to a series of short pitches, dry at the start, which
to a series of short pitches, dry at the start, which get bigger, deeper, get bigger, deeper, wider and wetter. The first exploration of 1976
wider and wetter. The first exploration of 1976 had reconnoitred to -200m to had reconnoitred to -200m to the base of a 40m pitch (<b>The Black
the base of a 40m pitch (<b>The Black Hole</b>). The explorers of this year Hole</b>). The explorers of this year started on the descent of a
started on the descent of a fine 60m pitch of constant shape, slightly fine 60m pitch of constant shape, slightly sloping. At the bottom
sloping. At the bottom of this is the only chamber of the cave : <b>The of this is the only chamber of the cave : <b>The Galactic Hall</b>.
Galactic Hall</b>. Here the cave splits into two routes, the active and the Here the cave splits into two routes, the active and the
fossil. fossil.</p>
<h3>Active system</h3> <h3>Active system</h3>
<p>Downstream from the chamber a drop leads to a small chamber
<p>Downstream from the chamber a drop leads to a small chamber among among boulders, the <b>Love Nest</b>. (No idea who ventured to call
boulders, the <b>Love Nest</b>. (No idea who ventured to call it this[?]) it this[?]) Between the boulders a 20m pitch opens, immediately
Between the boulders a 20m pitch opens, immediately followed by a 25m pitch. followed by a 25m pitch. In fact, the last 25m of descent drops
In fact, the last 25m of descent drops between the walls of an immense aven between the walls of an immense aven to land on a flat gravel
to land on a flat gravel floor. A diagonal chimney leads to a trickle of floor. A diagonal chimney leads to a trickle of water.</p>
water. <p>A fissure marks the start of the <b>Anti-matter meander</b>,
where one immediately rejoins the underground stream. This has an
<p>A fissure marks the start of the <b>Anti-matter meander</b>, where one average flow of two litres per second but quite rapidly increases
immediately rejoins the underground stream. This has an average flow of two to 10-15 litres per second in flood. The first part of the meander
litres per second but quite rapidly increases to 10-15 litres per second in is straight and interrupted by 3 small pitches and two drops. At
flood. The first part of the meander is straight and interrupted by 3 small the top of the first, in the roof, is the connection with the
pitches and two drops. At the top of the first, in the roof, is the fossil system. Quickly, the meander becomes less amenable: high and
connection with the fossil system. Quickly, the meander becomes less narrow, it is plastered with mud (the anti-matter) which makes
amenable: high and narrow, it is plastered with mud (the anti-matter) which progress quite arduous. Three pitches of 5, 14 and 10, punctuate
makes progress quite arduous. Three pitches of 5, 14 and 10, punctuate progress. This last, followed by a drop of 3m, gives access to a
progress. This last, followed by a drop of 3m, gives access to a section of section of passage blocked by clay. At the end of this, the stream
passage blocked by clay. At the end of this, the stream disappers into a disappers into a fissure with tight impenetrable bends. The passage
fissure with tight impenetrable bends. The passage is continued by a quite is continued by a quite large fossil branch. After some 50m, the
large fossil branch. After some 50m, the draught goes into an earthy hole, draught goes into an earthy hole, the start of a big pitch of 70m
the start of a big pitch of 70m in several stages. in several stages.</p>
<p>Halfway down, the pitch is rejoined by the stream which is
<p>Halfway down, the pitch is rejoined by the stream which is avoided by a avoided by a parallel fossil pitch. There immediately follows
parallel fossil pitch. There immediately follows another pitch of 55m, another pitch of 55m, totally wet and characterised by an
totally wet and characterised by an elliptical cross-section and constant elliptical cross-section and constant slope. At the bottom, the
slope. At the bottom, the water is engulfed by a fissure about three metres water is engulfed by a fissure about three metres long, followed by
long, followed by a tight meander which we haven't pushed. a tight meander which we haven't pushed.</p>
<h3>Fossil system</h3> <h3>Fossil system</h3>
<p>Upstream from the Galactic Hall, a window some metres high gives
<p>Upstream from the Galactic Hall, a window some metres high gives access to access to a good-sized passage (3x3m on average), the <b>Little
a good-sized passage (3x3m on average), the <b>Little Green Men's Green Men's passage</b>. One comes up against a climb of 3m at the
passage</b>. One comes up against a climb of 3m at the base of which the base of which the trickle of water is lost into a meander cut below
trickle of water is lost into a meander cut below the fossil passage (see the fossil passage (see below). After a narrowing and a climb, the
below). After a narrowing and a climb, the passage ends in boulders between passage ends in boulders between which it is still possible to
which it is still possible to penetrate for a dozen metres. penetrate for a dozen metres.</p>
<p>Back in the meander below the fossil passage: this ends at the <p>Back in the meander below the fossil passage: this ends at the
<b><span lang="fr">Gomette</span> pitch</b> (discovered by the <span <b><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Gomette</span> pitch</b>
lang="fr">Gaumais</span>), a 60m pitch, spray-lashed in its lower part by (discovered by the <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Gaumais</span>), a
"the wee-wee". At the base of this pitch is the beginning of the <b>Mutants' 60m pitch, spray-lashed in its lower part by "the wee-wee". At the
meander</b>. This is a passage for masochists <span lang="fr">par base of this pitch is the beginning of the <b>Mutants' meander</b>.
excellence</span>: at the bottom, tight and suit-snagging. It ends in a This is a passage for masochists <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">par
series of climbs and a 30m pitch joining the active system. excellence</span>: at the bottom, tight and suit-snagging. It ends
in a series of climbs and a 30m pitch joining the active
system.</p>
<h2>Geology</h2> <h2>Geology</h2>
<h3>General</h3> <h3>General</h3>
<p>From the geological point of view, the <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
<p>From the geological point of view, the <span lang="fr">Gouffre Ovni</span> "fr">Gouffre Ovni</span> is a typical example of the karstic
is a typical example of the karstic phenomena of the massif, and likewise of phenomena of the massif, and likewise of the greater part of the
the greater part of the karst of Austria. There isn't a zone of pitches karst of Austria. There isn't a zone of pitches leading to a
leading to a master-cave on an impermeable bed (of the Pyrenean type) nor master-cave on an impermeable bed (of the Pyrenean type) nor tight
tight vertical caves (of the <span lang="fr">Vercors</span> or <span vertical caves (of the <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Vercors</span>
lang="fr">Chartreuse</span> type). The primary factors in the formation are or <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Chartreuse</span> type). The
the intense orogenic fracturing combined with a very wet climate and heavy primary factors in the formation are the intense orogenic
snow-falls since the start of the era. fracturing combined with a very wet climate and heavy snow-falls
since the start of the era.</p>
<p>These caves generally open by virtue of the simple form of the <p>These caves generally open by virtue of the simple form of the
discontinuities in the limestones (joints, bedding-planes). Then they enlarge discontinuities in the limestones (joints, bedding-planes). Then
more and more by following the larger-scale phenomena (faults, they enlarge more and more by following the larger-scale phenomena
master-joints). The master-cave, when it exists, is generally only short and (faults, master-joints). The master-cave, when it exists, is
near the resurgence. generally only short and near the resurgence.</p>
<h3 lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Gouffre Ovni</h3>
<h3 lang="fr">Gouffre Ovni</h3> <p>The entrance is in a bedding plane open for about two metres.
There follows a series of pitches, quite small, formed in a quite
<p>The entrance is in a bedding plane open for about two metres. There sinuous joint and enlarged on bedding planes and very strong
follows a series of pitches, quite small, formed in a quite sinuous joint and [<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">pendage</span> - dictionary failure]
enlarged on bedding planes and very strong [<span lang="fr">pendage</span> - in this zone. At about -200m, the influence of another factor
dictionary failure] in this zone. At about -200m, the influence of another starts to be felt. The pitches become bigger and bigger and the
factor starts to be felt. The pitches become bigger and bigger and the walls walls cleaner and cleaner. This section is characterised by a fault
cleaner and cleaner. This section is characterised by a fault running roughly running roughly East-West (see figure 1).</p>
East-West (see figure 1). <div class="centre"><img alt="fig. 1, 3k gif" width="512" height="128" src=
"../ovnif1.png" /></div>
<p><center><img alt="fig. 1, 3k gif" width=512 height=128 <p>This fault controls the major part of the formation of the cave.
src="../ovnif1.png"></center> In effect, the course of the cave is hollowed out of different
levels of this fault. (figure 2)</p>
<p>This fault controls the major part of the formation of the cave. In <div class="onleft">
effect, the course of the cave is hollowed out of different levels of this <img alt="fig. 2, 3k gif" width="275" height="385" src="../ovnif2.png" />
fault. (figure 2) <p class="caption"><b>Figure 2: Plan of
the fault</b></p></div>
<p><img alt="fig. 2, 3k gif" width=275 height=385 align="left" hspace=10
vspace=10 src="../ovnif2.png">
<b>Figure 2: Plan of the fault</b>
<ul> <ul>
<li>1st The Zorglub pitch and the Father Christmas chimneys. <li>1st The Zorglub pitch and the Father Christmas chimneys.</li>
<li>2nd The Galactic Hall and the first third of the Little Green
<li>2nd The Galactic Hall and the first third of the Little Green Men's Men's passage (the other two thirds lie on bedding planes).</li>
passage (the other two thirds lie on bedding planes). <li>3rd The pitch to pass [?] the time and the <span lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">Gaumette</span> pitch with the Mutants' meander.</li>
<li>3rd The pitch to pass [?] the time and the <li>4th The major part of the Anti-matter meander (the unwedging of
<span lang="fr">Gaumette</span> pitch with the Mutants' meander. this part [?]) by connection with the rest (plan) is [complete
translation failure - something about the fault being broken
<li>4th The major part of the Anti-matter meander (the unwedging of this ?]</li>
part [?]) by connection with the rest (plan) is [complete translation
failure - something about the fault being broken ?]
</ul> </ul>
<br clear="all"> <p style="clear: both">Following the large part of the Anti-matter meander, a
very narrow zone marks the junction with a second fault orientated
<p>Following the large part of the Anti-matter meander, a very narrow zone <acronym>SE-NW</acronym> which controls the rest of the cave. [next sentence is
marks the junction with a second fault orientated <acronym>SE-NW</acronym> real gobbledegook to me unless there is a misprint in the french ?] One rotted
which controls the rest of the cave. [next sentence is real gobbledegook to to believe conspicuously the survey, which concerns a meander in a joint seen
me unless there is a misprint in the french ?] One rotted to believe its sinuosity [???]. In fact, the straight part and space of this fault is
conspicuously the survey, which concerns a meander in a joint seen its impracticable because it overhangs continually a perpendicular of 6m whence the
sinuosity [???]. In fact, the straight part and space of this fault is lips are sloping and muddy. One is therefore obliged to borrow the bottom in
impracticable because it overhangs continually a perpendicular of 6m whence [<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">surcreusement</span> - what a time for a
the lips are sloping and muddy. One is therefore obliged to borrow the bottom dictionary failure !]. More unwavering [lots of alternative translations for
in [<span lang="fr">surcreusement</span> - what a time for a dictionary this word - none make much sense] by an unhooking where the stream destroys
failure !]. More unwavering [lots of alternative translations for this word - itself [sinks ?]. The passage continues in the same direction always controlled
none make much sense] by an unhooking where the stream destroys itself [sinks by the jointing/faulting. The zone of pitches which follows develops equally
?]. The passage continues in the same direction always controlled by the in the lower part of the fault; [<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">elle ait</span>
jointing/faulting. The zone of pitches which follows develops equally in the is the present subjunctive of <span lang="fr" xml:lang= "fr">avoir</span> -
lower part of the fault; [<span lang="fr">elle ait</span> is the present what the fuck does present subjunctive translate as ?] well what/as/who/as/how
subjunctive of <span lang="fr">avoir</span> - what the fuck does present has the appearance of a forced conduit [phreatic passage/lift ?]</p>
subjunctive translate as ?] well what/as/who/as/how has the appearance of a
forced conduit [phreatic passage/lift ?]
<h3>Possibilities for continuation</h3> <h3>Possibilities for continuation</h3>
<p>As one the remark to the observation of the survey, the main
<p>As one the remark to the observation of the survey, the main passage passage continues unexplored. It appears that [present subjunctive
continues unexplored. It appears that [present subjunctive of to be] in the of to be] in the presence of a simple phenomenon of regression and
presence of a simple phenomenon of regression and so logically one should so logically one should find another series of fossil pitches
find another series of fossil pitches dropping to the base level. (figures 3 dropping to the base level. (figures 3 and 4)</p>
and 4) <div class="center">
<img alt="Fig. 3 - 5k gif" style="border: 2px solid black" width="460" height="480" src=
<center><p><img alt="Fig. 3 - 5k gif" width=460 height=480 "ovnif3.png" />
src="ovnif3.png"><p><img alt="Fig. 4 - 3k gif" width=320 height=340 &nbsp;&nbsp;<img style="border: 2px solid black" alt="Fig. 4 - 3k gif" width="320" height="340" src=
src="ovnif4.png"></center> "ovnif4.png" />
</div>
<p>The strength [power, force ?] of the <span lang="de">Dachsteinkalk</span> <p>The strength [power, force ?] of the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
(granular Jurassic limestone) lies next to the 700m from the entrance. [??] "de">Dachsteinkalk</span> (granular Jurassic limestone) lies next
to the 700m from the entrance. [??]</p>
<h3>Meteorologie</h3> <h3>Meteorologie</h3>
<div class="onright">
<p><img alt="fig. 5 - 2k gif" width=265 height=435 align=right hspace=10 <img alt="fig. 5 - 2k gif" width="265" height="435"
vspace=0 src="../ovnif5.png"> src="../ovnif5.png" /> <p class="caption"><b>Figure 5:
<b>Figure 5: Diagram of the draughts at the principal points of Diagram of the draughts at the principal points of
perception:</b> perception:</b></p></div>
<p>As we have already said, there is a strong draught which drew
<p>As we have already said, there is a strong draught which drew our our attention to Ovni. This draught was blowing in a hot period
attention to Ovni. This draught was blowing in a hot period (summer) [so] we (summer) [so] we logically [expected] to find the presence of an
logically [expected] to find the presence of an intermediate entrance. Seeing intermediate entrance. Seeing the strength of the cold draught
the strength of the cold draught [<span lang="fr">chass&eacute;</span>], the [<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">chass&eacute;</span>], the existence
existence of an upper entrance is fairly certain. Prospecting on the hillock of an upper entrance is fairly certain. Prospecting on the hillock
above the entrance didn't yield results. It concerns there of an objective to above the entrance didn't yield results. It concerns there of an
see again because the vegetation and the snakes didn't permit us to operate objective to see again because the vegetation and the snakes didn't
an efficient search pattern. permit us to operate an efficient search pattern.</p>
<p>The junction with this higher entrance must be at the level of
<p>The junction with this higher entrance must be at the level of the Little the Little Green Men's passage; either by the wet chimney at the
Green Men's passage; either by the wet chimney at the bottom of the 1st fault bottom of the 1st fault or in the roof of 2/3, there where the
or in the roof of 2/3, there where the draught is lost. For the other part, draught is lost. For the other part, the presence at the bottom of
the presence at the bottom of another strong draught, suggests a lower another strong draught, suggests a lower entrance, probably a
entrance, probably a fossil resurgence. Nevertheless these are only fossil resurgence. Nevertheless these are only suppositions, the
suppositions, the caprices of a draught are very difficult to deal with. caprices of a draught are very difficult to deal with.</p>
<h3 style="clear: both">Conclusions</h3>
<br clear="all"> <p>One sees from this brief analysis of the cave that the chances
of a continuation aren't minimal. Now this cave isn't extremely
<h3>Conclusions</h3> difficult of access or of exploration. The work [god knows - rotted
to be there mend] very soon, but it is nevertheless a secondary
<p>One sees from this brief analysis of the cave that the chances of a objective compared with other Austrian possibilities.</p>
continuation aren't minimal. Now this cave isn't extremely difficult of <p lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">G Feller <acronym>GSAB</acronym></p>
access or of exploration. The work [god knows - rotted to be there mend] very
soon, but it is nevertheless a secondary objective compared with other
Austrian possibilities.
<p lang="fr">G Feller <acronym>GSAB</acronym>
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<center><font size=-1 lang="fr">(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 1 <p style="text-align: center; font-size: 65%" lang="fr" xml:lang= "fr">(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 1 (Juin 1977) pp 33-49</p>
(Juin 1977) pp 33-49</font> <h1 lang="de" xml:lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE</h1>
<h2 style="text-align: center">Description of the principal caves in the West of the massif.</h2>
<h1 lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE</h1>
<h2>Description of the principal caves in the West of the massif.</h2></center>
<p><b>Introduction</b> : The choice of this area was quite arbitrary. Indeed,
there is very little chance that the area is all drained by the same
hydrological system. While for some caves, the presumed resurgence is almost
certain, the same is not true of others which may drain in totally the
opposite direction ! Our choice was governed by means of access: roads, gear
lift, paths, a refuge etc.. The <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>, which
is one of the biggest karst ranges in Austria, is only easily accessible in
certain areas, such as the one we discuss in this article. In this area are
many kilometres of totally virgin lapiaz. Many hours walking are needed to
reach it. Moreover, in this area, only a tiny part is more-or-less
prospected. It includes the valleys of <span lang="de">Raucherkar</span> and
<span lang="de">Feuertal</span>, and the areas adjoining the path which goes
to them as well as the north face of <span lang="de">Hagender Kogel</span>,
in which lies the <span lang="de">Tropfsteinh&ouml;hle</span>, which had
extraordinary formations but which is today completely trashed out.
<p><b>Cave Research</b> : has been mainly carried out by our friends of
Upper Austria, an English group, two French groups, and ourselves. For our
part we did almost no prospecting, except in 1976. We contented ourselves
with the descent of certain known caves - again, not all of them (We
bitterly regret this today because others have made discoveries in our
place). Our effort was particularly carried out in
<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>, but a chronic deficiency of able cavers
and relevant experience (in 1975 we were only 4) has prevented us from
getting as far as we would have liked.
<p><b>Geology/Hydrology</b> : Not having a geologist in the group, we could
only sketch out the major outlines. The great majority of the area is <span
lang="de">Dachsteinkalk</span>, also with some pockets of Dolomite, well seen
in certain places - notably north of the <span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>.
Another problem, the presence of a nappe (overfold) between -400 and -500m
which could cause problems in <span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. For the
<span lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, the drainage is practically certain: the
flood resurgence is in <span lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> to the
south of <span lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, and north of
<span lang="de">Altaussee</span>. It should be possible to connect the two
either directly, or by diving. <span lang="fr">QUELLI</span> should also go
in the same direction, at least if one believes its trend.
Nevertheless, with <span lang="fr">Quelli</span> opening up 2km NE of
<span lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, we need to be very careful in drawing
conclusions.
<p><b lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</b> lies in an area with very complex
boundaries, and could very well go off in several totally different
directions. It is very possible that several directions can be followed. The
explorations have not proceeded far enough in plan to be able to decide.
<p><b lang="de">TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</b> and <b lang="de">UFO SCHACHT</b>
should be expected to head off to the north where many resurgences can be
seen. The other directions should nevertheless not be ignored. At any rate,
the explorations will be pushed a lot further this year and perhaps it will
become clearer to us.
<p>From the hydrological point of view, it is very regrettable that no dye
tests have been carried out, and this through lack of authorisation,
collaboration and interest !!!
<h2 lang="de"><a id="id55">RAUCHERKARH&Ouml;HLENSYSTEM</a></h2>
<p><span lang="de">Steiermark - Totes Gebirge</span> - 1632m<br>
Depth 723m Length so far, about 20km<br>
Deepest point is a sump
<p><b>Location</b>: In the Western <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>,
south of the <span lang="de">Sch&ouml;nberg</span>, 2km SE of <span
lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>.
<p><b>History</b>: Exploration started in 1961. In 1965, the cave was 6km
long and 246m deep. The National Austrian expedition of 1965 reached -530m.
In 1973, <span lang="de"><acronym>LVfHK</acronym> Ober&ouml;sterreich &amp;
Steiermark</span> reached a sump at -723m, at which time the length had
reached 18km.
<p><b>Description</b>: The system has no less than 13 entrances ranged
between 1500 and 1623m altitude. The labyrinthine system contains several
levels of development mostly southwards towards
<span lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> (the probable resurgence at an
altitude of 850m). It is interesting to note that the final sump has been
reached by systematically traversing round pitches in excess of 90-40m.
<p>Author of this summary : <span lang="fr">Etienne Degrave</span>.
<h2><a id="id120" lang="fr">QUELLI</a> or
<span lang="de">KACHERLSCHACHT</span></h2>
<p>Western <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge - Feuertal -
Sch&ouml;nberg</span><br>
Depth -708m Altitude about 1950m
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered in 1973 by the <acronym>GSAB</acronym> under
the name T3. Rediscovered in July 1976 by <span lang="fr">J.M.Piron</span>
and explored from 12th to 23rd of July by <span lang="fr">A.C.Toulon,
S.C.Toulon, Lou Darbon</span> and <span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o
Ragaie</span>.
<p><b>Description</b>: P8, p19, p83, p33, p24, p17, p5, p33, p24, p9, p33,
p27, p103. At -400m one reaches a vast passage going up and downhill. The
downstream passage emerges at the top of an 84m pitch. Below this a winding
canyon interspersed with small pitches gives onto a 15m pitch and the end of
exploration at -708m.
<p lang="fr">Etienne Degrave
<h2><a id="id117" lang="fr">EMPAGADURE</a> or
<span lang="de">TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</span></h2>
<p>Western <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge - Hintergras</span><br>
Depth -587m Altitude 1610m
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered in July 1976 by
<span lang="fr">F.Vergier</span>. Explored between 12th and 23rd July 1976 by
<span lang="fr">A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou Darbon</span> and
<span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie</span>.
<p><b>Description</b>: Down to -287m the cave is made up of shortish pitches
interspersed with tight meandering passage : p8, p12, p17, p9, p20, p3, p12,
p30, p7, p6, p9, p8, p7, p5, p34, p6, p8, p5, p9. At -287m, a 21m pitch
drops into a large chamber. The water disappears in the boulders to reappear
in a whole series of wet pitches of which the longest is 30m. Floods impeded
exploration at the bottom of this branch: at -456m a pitch of about 20m was
definitely too wet to be descended. At -488m a low passage was also too wet.
Moreover, the draught there was weak or absent.
<p>In the chamber at -308m, a reascent of about 15m gave access to a fairly
wide fossil canyon which blew a detectable draught. After 30m, this passage
opened onto the enormous "<span lang="fr">Puits de Naufrag&eacute;s</span>"
(The Castaway's pitch), with a cross section of 15 by 25 metres. On this
pitch, several inlets appeared to come from the first branch explored. The
bottom of the pitch contracted to a joint-guided rift, exploration ending at
the head of a pitch estimated at 40m.
<p lang="fr">Etienne Degrave
<h2 lang="de"><a id="id50">AHNENSCHACHT</a></h2>
<p>Location: Western <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge - Feuertal</span><br>
Depth: -612m Length so far: > 5km<br>
<b>Altitude</b>: 1890m
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered by our Upper Austrian colleagues in 1856. The
point -320m was reached by them in 1958. In 1967 and 1968 the
<a href="../../bec/index.htm">Bristol Exploration Club</a> reached -400m, the
Horizontal network, with a length of 1 km, was discovered. In 1972, 73, 74
and 75, the <acronym>GSAB</acronym> "<span lang="fr">Les Gours</span>"
explored and discovered over 5km of passage and about 1500m of pitches. This
got them to -612m. We note also the participation, in 1974, of three French
clubs from Eastern France: <span lang="fr">S.C.Vesoul, G.S.Clerval</span> and
<span lang="fr">S.S.Daules</span>. In 1975 <acronym>CARSS</acronym> joined a
mini-expedition in July and likewise, <acronym>CASEO</acronym> in August.
<p><b>Introduction</b> : The choice of this area was quite
arbitrary. Indeed, there is very little chance that the area is all
drained by the same hydrological system. While for some caves, the
presumed resurgence is almost certain, the same is not true of
others which may drain in totally the opposite direction ! Our
choice was governed by means of access: roads, gear lift, paths, a
refuge etc.. The <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes
Gebirge</span>, which is one of the biggest karst ranges in
Austria, is only easily accessible in certain areas, such as the
one we discuss in this article. In this area are many kilometres of
totally virgin lapiaz. Many hours walking are needed to reach it.
Moreover, in this area, only a tiny part is more-or-less
prospected. It includes the valleys of <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Raucherkar</span> and <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Feuertal</span>, and the areas adjoining the path which goes
to them as well as the north face of <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Hagender Kogel</span>, in which lies the <span lang="de"
xml:lang="de">Tropfsteinh&ouml;hle</span>, which had extraordinary
formations but which is today completely trashed out.</p>
<p><b>Cave Research</b> : has been mainly carried out by our
friends of Upper Austria, an English group, two French groups, and
ourselves. For our part we did almost no prospecting, except in
1976. We contented ourselves with the descent of certain known
caves - again, not all of them (We bitterly regret this today
because others have made discoveries in our place). Our effort was
particularly carried out in <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Ahnenschacht</span>, but a chronic deficiency of able cavers
and relevant experience (in 1975 we were only 4) has prevented us
from getting as far as we would have liked.</p>
<p><b>Geology/Hydrology</b> : Not having a geologist in the group,
we could only sketch out the major outlines. The great majority of
the area is <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Dachsteinkalk</span>,
also with some pockets of Dolomite, well seen in certain places -
notably north of the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Ahnenschacht</span>. Another problem, the presence of a nappe
(overfold) between -400 and -500m which could cause problems in
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. For the
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, the drainage is
practically certain: the flood resurgence is in <span lang="de"
xml:lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> to the south of
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, and north of
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Altaussee</span>. It should be
possible to connect the two either directly, or by diving.
<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">QUELLI</span> should also go in the
same direction, at least if one believes its trend. Nevertheless,
with <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Quelli</span> opening up 2km NE
of <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, we need to be
very careful in drawing conclusions.</p>
<p><b lang="de" xml:lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</b> lies in an area with
very complex boundaries, and could very well go off in several
totally different directions. It is very possible that several
directions can be followed. The explorations have not proceeded far
enough in plan to be able to decide.</p>
<p><b lang="de" xml:lang="de">TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</b> and <b lang=
"de" xml:lang="de">UFO SCHACHT</b> should be expected to head off
to the north where many resurgences can be seen. The other
directions should nevertheless not be ignored. At any rate, the
explorations will be pushed a lot further this year and perhaps it
will become clearer to us.</p>
<p>From the hydrological point of view, it is very regrettable that
no dye tests have been carried out, and this through lack of
authorisation, collaboration and interest !!!</p>
<h2 lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a id="id55" name=
"id55">RAUCHERKARH&Ouml;HLENSYSTEM</a></h2>
<p><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Steiermark - Totes Gebirge</span>
- 1632m<br />
Depth 723m Length so far, about 20km<br />
Deepest point is a sump</p>
<p><b>Location</b>: In the Western <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Totes Gebirge</span>, south of the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Sch&ouml;nberg</span>, 2km SE of <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Ahnenschacht</span>.</p>
<p><b>History</b>: Exploration started in 1961. In 1965, the cave
was 6km long and 246m deep. The National Austrian expedition of
1965 reached -530m. In 1973, <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de"><acronym>LVfHK</acronym> Ober&ouml;sterreich &amp;
Steiermark</span> reached a sump at -723m, at which time the length
had reached 18km.</p>
<p><b>Description</b>: The system has no less than 13 entrances
ranged between 1500 and 1623m altitude. The labyrinthine system
contains several levels of development mostly southwards towards
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> (the
probable resurgence at an altitude of 850m). It is interesting to
note that the final sump has been reached by systematically
traversing round pitches in excess of 90-40m.</p>
<p>Author of this summary : <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Etienne
Degrave</span>.</p>
<h2><a id="id120" lang="fr" name="id120" xml:lang="fr">QUELLI</a>
or <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">KACHERLSCHACHT</span></h2>
<p>Western <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge - Feuertal -
Sch&ouml;nberg</span><br />
Depth -708m Altitude about 1950m</p>
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered in 1973 by the
<acronym>GSAB</acronym> under the name T3. Rediscovered in July
1976 by <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">J.M.Piron</span> and explored
from 12th to 23rd of July by <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou Darbon</span> and <span lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie</span>.</p>
<p><b>Description</b>: P8, p19, p83, p33, p24, p17, p5, p33, p24,
p9, p33, p27, p103. At -400m one reaches a vast passage going up
and downhill. The downstream passage emerges at the top of an 84m
pitch. Below this a winding canyon interspersed with small pitches
gives onto a 15m pitch and the end of exploration at -708m.</p>
<p lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Etienne Degrave</p>
<h2><a id="id117" lang="fr" name="id117" xml:lang=
"fr">EMPAGADURE</a> or <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">TRUNKEMBOLDSCHACHT</span></h2>
<p>Western <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge -
Hintergras</span><br />
Depth -587m Altitude 1610m</p>
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered in July 1976 by <span lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">F.Vergier</span>. Explored between 12th and 23rd July
1976 by <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou
Darbon</span> and <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie</span>.</p>
<p><b>Description</b>: Down to -287m the cave is made up of
shortish pitches interspersed with tight meandering passage : p8,
p12, p17, p9, p20, p3, p12, p30, p7, p6, p9, p8, p7, p5, p34, p6,
p8, p5, p9. At -287m, a 21m pitch drops into a large chamber. The
water disappears in the boulders to reappear in a whole series of
wet pitches of which the longest is 30m. Floods impeded exploration
at the bottom of this branch: at -456m a pitch of about 20m was
definitely too wet to be descended. At -488m a low passage was also
too wet. Moreover, the draught there was weak or absent.</p>
<p>In the chamber at -308m, a reascent of about 15m gave access to
a fairly wide fossil canyon which blew a detectable draught. After
30m, this passage opened onto the enormous "<span lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">Puits de Naufrag&eacute;s</span>" (The Castaway's
pitch), with a cross section of 15 by 25 metres. On this pitch,
several inlets appeared to come from the first branch explored. The
bottom of the pitch contracted to a joint-guided rift, exploration
ending at the head of a pitch estimated at 40m.</p>
<p lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Etienne Degrave</p>
<h2 lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a id="id50" name=
"id50">AHNENSCHACHT</a></h2>
<p>Location: Western <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge -
Feuertal</span><br />
Depth: -612m Length so far: &gt; 5km<br />
<b>Altitude</b>: 1890m</p>
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered by our Upper Austrian colleagues in
1856. The point -320m was reached by them in 1958. In 1967 and 1968
the <a href="../../bec/index.htm">Bristol Exploration Club</a>
reached -400m, the Horizontal network, with a length of 1 km, was
discovered. In 1972, 73, 74 and 75, the <acronym>GSAB</acronym>
"<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Les Gours</span>" explored and
discovered over 5km of passage and about 1500m of pitches. This got
them to -612m. We note also the participation, in 1974, of three
French clubs from Eastern France: <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">S.C.Vesoul, G.S.Clerval</span> and <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">S.S.Daules</span>. In 1975 <acronym>CARSS</acronym> joined a
mini-expedition in July and likewise, <acronym>CASEO</acronym> in
August.</p>
<h3>Description: Entrance series</h3> <h3>Description: Entrance series</h3>
<p>The entrance is in a small doline situated on the ridge
<p>The entrance is in a small doline situated on the ridge separating separating <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Feuertal</span> and
<span lang="de">Feuertal</span> and <span lang="de">Hintergras</span>. The <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Hintergras</span>. The cave starts
cave starts with four pitches (p14, p11, p5 and p11) which drop onto a slope with four pitches (p14, p11, p5 and p11) which drop onto a slope
formed of big boulders (rope desirable). After this, another series of small formed of big boulders (rope desirable). After this, another series
pitches (p9, p7, p6, p4, p10, p18, p11) from which is reached the "<span of small pitches (p9, p7, p6, p4, p10, p18, p11) from which is
lang="de">Sinterterrasse</span>" at -141m. reached the "<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Sinterterrasse</span>"
at -141m.</p>
<p>From this point, one has left the zone of small pitches and started a <p>From this point, one has left the zone of small pitches and
series of pitches which in reality are part of a single shaft down to -400m. started a series of pitches which in reality are part of a single
shaft down to -400m.</p>
<p>Indeed, if you had an unfortunate accident on the <p>Indeed, if you had an unfortunate accident on the "<span lang=
"<span lang="de">Sinterterrasse</span>", you would fall all the way to -400m. "de" xml:lang="de">Sinterterrasse</span>", you would fall all the
These pitches are usually wet, especially after rain... Here is the list of way to -400m. These pitches are usually wet, especially after
pitches: p25, <span lang="de">Schuppenstufe</span> 30, p10, rain... Here is the list of pitches: p25, <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<span lang="de">Sicherungsstufe</span> 32, "de">Schuppenstufe</span> 30, p10, <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<span lang="de">Schachtgabel</span> 48, a 10m ramp, <span lang="de">Josef "de">Sicherungsstufe</span> 32, <span lang="de" xml:lang=
Schacht</span> 100m. On the <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span>, a pendulum "de">Schachtgabel</span> 48, a 10m ramp, <span lang="de" xml:lang=
6m from the top enables one to reach the entry to the "Horizontal network". "de">Josef Schacht</span> 100m. On the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
Descending the <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span> a little further, after a "de">Josef Schacht</span>, a pendulum 6m from the top enables one
6.5m and a 10m pitch, access can be gained to a wide canyon, active in the to reach the entry to the "Horizontal network". Descending the
bottom, and which ends in a fissure. This canyon is fossil in the upper level <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Josef Schacht</span> a little
and certainly presents possibilities for continuation. further, after a 6.5m and a 10m pitch, access can be gained to a
wide canyon, active in the bottom, and which ends in a fissure.
<h4>Lateral development from <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span></h4> This canyon is fossil in the upper level and certainly presents
possibilities for continuation.</p>
<p>After one has crossed the "doorway" and a short squeeze, one enters the <h4>Lateral development from <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Josef
network proper. At this point is a passage covered in rather special Schacht</span></h4>
formations. The first junction gives access to a network <p>After one has crossed the "doorway" and a short squeeze, one
[ lines missing from original photocopy - sorry :-(] enters the network proper. At this point is a passage covered in
rather special formations. The first junction gives access to a
network [ lines missing from original photocopy - sorry :-(]</p>
<h4>The Vegetable Garden</h4> <h4>The Vegetable Garden</h4>
<p>This fossil system, which has not been fully travelled through,
<p>This fossil system, which has not been fully travelled through, contains contains numerous possibilities. It is reached by three principal
numerous possibilities. It is reached by three principal access routes: the access routes: the pitch already mentioned; a descending fissure a
pitch already mentioned; a descending fissure a little before the "Belgica"; little before the "Belgica"; and a sloping passage with formations
and a sloping passage with formations in the "Mammoth pitch" chamber. The in the "Mammoth pitch" chamber. The system is composed of a big
system is composed of a big chamber with numerous passages and junctions; it chamber with numerous passages and junctions; it is very poorly
is very poorly known and no doubt houses many surprises. Continuing along the known and no doubt houses many surprises. Continuing along the
passage, one passes a step of 4m to find a junction, to the left at which passage, one passes a step of 4m to find a junction, to the left at
lies the bivouac. which lies the bivouac.</p>
<h4>"Belgica" system</h4> <h4>"Belgica" system</h4>
<p>Directly after the bivouac, there is a 10m pitch, and at the
<p>Directly after the bivouac, there is a 10m pitch, and at the bottom, a new bottom, a new junction: downhill the "Belgica" passage, of fairly
junction: downhill the "Belgica" passage, of fairly small dimensions, which small dimensions, which leads, after traversing past three holes,
leads, after traversing past three holes, to a descent of an 8m and a 17m to a descent of an 8m and a 17m pitch and to the squeezes passed by
pitch and to the squeezes passed by our French colleagues. our French colleagues. [<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">A
[<span lang="fr">A revoir</span>] revoir</span>]</p>
<p>Uphill, discovered by <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
<p>Uphill, discovered by <span lang="fr">D.Motte</span> and "fr">D.Motte</span> and <acronym>PIE</acronym>, in the course of
<acronym>PIE</acronym>, in the course of the expedition in 1974, is the the expedition in 1974, is the "<span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"<span lang="fr">Galerie de Francs comtois</span>". This is a large ascending "fr">Galerie de Francs comtois</span>". This is a large ascending
fossil passage interspersed with traverses, dips and pitches. It reascends to fossil passage interspersed with traverses, dips and pitches. It
-90m. At -150m, a 20m pitch reaches the "<span lang="fr">Resomega</span>". reascends to -90m. At -150m, a 20m pitch reaches the "<span lang=
"fr" xml:lang="fr">Resomega</span>".</p>
<p>A little before the 20m pitch, a short descending canyon passage avoids <p>A little before the 20m pitch, a short descending canyon passage
the 20m pitch and the series of squeezes following it. avoids the 20m pitch and the series of squeezes following it. The
The "<span lang="fr">Resomega</span>" is an alternately ascending and "<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Resomega</span>" is an alternately
descending passage, very chaotic, interspersed with several junctions and ascending and descending passage, very chaotic, interspersed with
pitches which leads to the "Balcon du Visionnaire", offering several several junctions and pitches which leads to the "Balcon du
possibilities. A 60m pitch gives onto another 60m pitch which is undescended. Visionnaire", offering several possibilities. A 60m pitch gives
There is another big pitch in excess of 100m and an unfinished ascending onto another 60m pitch which is undescended. There is another big
passage. A little before, a 10m pitch allows one to reach a passage pitch in excess of 100m and an unfinished ascending passage. A
interspersed with 3 junctions and 7 exits !!!! This shows the level of little before, a 10m pitch allows one to reach a passage
complexity which we ran into. interspersed with 3 junctions and 7 exits !!!! This shows the level
of complexity which we ran into.</p>
<p>It was also at the "<span lang="fr">Balcon du Visionnaire</span>" that an <p>It was also at the "<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Balcon du
accident occurred in 1975, which terminated exploration in that year. Visionnaire</span>" that an accident occurred in 1975, which
terminated exploration in that year.</p>
<p>Back in the Horizontal network, and after passing a little bouldery climb <p>Back in the Horizontal network, and after passing a little
an inlet is encountered, named "The Bath". The passage continues a little bouldery climb an inlet is encountered, named "The Bath". The
longer, to end in a pitch. [To be completed] passage continues a little longer, to end in a pitch. [To be
completed]</p>
<p>The following junction has been named "Mammoth Junction" because the <p>The following junction has been named "Mammoth Junction" because
passage to the right leads onto the pitch of the same name. It is necessary the passage to the right leads onto the pitch of the same name. It
to exercise great care and attention not to slip hereabouts, because a fall is necessary to exercise great care and attention not to slip
would drop you into same. hereabouts, because a fall would drop you into same.</p>
<p>The Mammoth Pitch, Para-pitch and probably the "Negus" pitch,
<p>The Mammoth Pitch, Para-pitch and probably the "Negus" pitch, form part of form part of the same system ( see survey ) which is composed of a
the same system ( see survey ) which is composed of a 146m pitch, a 10m pitch 146m pitch, a 10m pitch and a narrow canyon interspersed with
and a narrow canyon interspersed with several cascades leading finally to a several cascades leading finally to a 35m pitch giving onto the
35m pitch giving onto the sump at -612m. The Para-pitch, p106, is followed by sump at -612m. The Para-pitch, p106, is followed by pitches of 5,
pitches of 5, 10 and 50m and drops via the latter into the "Mammoth Canyon" 10 and 50m and drops via the latter into the "Mammoth Canyon"</p>
<p>The "Negus" pitch, which is undescended, should also drop into
<p>The "Negus" pitch, which is undescended, should also drop into the same the same canyon. Several other small pitches and active streamways
canyon. Several other small pitches and active streamways should also rejoin should also rejoin this system.</p>
this system. <p>The depth of 612m should be treated cautiously because the
method of survey used (height of a man) is fairly imprecise. The
<p>The depth of 612m should be treated cautiously because the method of bottom could be anywhere between -580m and -630m. The shortage of
survey used (height of a man) is fairly imprecise. The bottom could be time prevented us from redoing our survey. Maybe this year ????</p>
anywhere between -580m and -630m. The shortage of time prevented us from <p>Turning left, the "Zipfer" passage is followed for 150m before
redoing our survey. Maybe this year ???? reaching an important junction: to the left "Chimneys passage", to
the right "Draughting passage".</p>
<p>Turning left, the "Zipfer" passage is followed for 150m before reaching an
important junction: to the left "Chimneys passage", to the right "Draughting
passage".
<h4>Chimneys Passage</h4> <h4>Chimneys Passage</h4>
<p>This is very large with a constant slope, interrupted in the
<p>This is very large with a constant slope, interrupted in the middle by a middle by a squeeze and a couple of drops. The "Schnaps pitch" (40m
squeeze and a couple of drops. The "Schnaps pitch" (40m with an unexplored, with an unexplored, narrow canyon) is avoided by traversing to
narrow canyon) is avoided by traversing to reach a 25m pitch in which you reach a 25m pitch in which you must pendulum 5m from the bottom in
must pendulum 5m from the bottom in order to reach a chamber in which is met order to reach a chamber in which is met a small stream. Climbing
a small stream. Climbing up a little opposite, a short upper passage rejoins up a little opposite, a short upper passage rejoins the stream by a
the stream by a 20m pitch. In the chamber, the descent of a 10m pitch allows 20m pitch. In the chamber, the descent of a 10m pitch allows the
the stream to be followed to a squeeze beyond which one can hear the grumble stream to be followed to a squeeze beyond which one can hear the
of a large river ? A place to go back to. grumble of a large river ? A place to go back to.</p>
<h4>Draughting passage</h4> <h4>Draughting passage</h4>
<p>This is fossil, and tight in places, and allows exploration of a
<p>This is fossil, and tight in places, and allows exploration of a very very complex network which intersects itself in various places and
complex network which intersects itself in various places and which could which could hold very great surprises, since its exploration has
hold very great surprises, since its exploration has only been sketchily only been sketchily outlined. The exit from this passage is in an
outlined. The exit from this passage is in an area of boulders where two area of boulders where two possibilities exist:</p>
possibilities exist: <p><b>To the left</b>: a tight passage has been forced on a slope
to "<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Kitschacht</span>" (Tackle Bag
<p><b>To the left</b>: a tight passage has been forced on a slope to Shaft) a magnificent 50m drop, very wide and completely free
"<span lang="de">Kitschacht</span>" (Tackle Bag Shaft) a magnificent 50m hanging. At its base, several possibilities. A tight active canyon
drop, very wide and completely free hanging. At its base, several which can be bypassed by a fossil passage, broken by an earthy drop
possibilities. A tight active canyon which can be bypassed by a fossil of 3m to a huge 15m pitch leading to a sump at -360m.</p>
passage, broken by an earthy drop of 3m to a huge 15m pitch leading to a sump <p>A drop of a few metres gives access to a huge fossil passage (
at -360m. 10 x 5m ). The floor of this is cut by a deep canyon which has not
been explored. After a hundred metres or so the passage ends at a
<p>A drop of a few metres gives access to a huge fossil passage ( 10 x 5m ). vast wet pitch. Climbing over a big boulder on the right gives
The floor of this is cut by a deep canyon which has not been explored. After access to another pitch upwards.</p>
a hundred metres or so the passage ends at a vast wet pitch. Climbing over a <p>Just after the base of <span lang="de" xml:lang=
big boulder on the right gives access to another pitch upwards. "de">Kitschacht</span>, a passage of 80m makes a connection with
the system of the "<span lang="fr" xml:lang=
<p>Just after the base of <span lang="de">Kitschacht</span>, a passage of 80m "fr">D&eacute;collement</span>" pitch at the bottom of the 40m
makes a connection with the system of the "<span shaft. A canyon leaving the junction passage can be followed for
lang="fr">D&eacute;collement</span>" pitch at the bottom of the 40m shaft. A more than 300m, and exits, in several places, into the side of the
canyon leaving the junction passage can be followed for more than 300m, and big fossil passage, just before the pitch upwards.</p>
exits, in several places, into the side of the big fossil passage, just <p><b>To the right</b>: The "<span lang="fr" xml:lang=
before the pitch upwards. "fr">D&eacute;collement</span>" pitch, with, at its base, a sloping
chamber full of boulders. To the left a very deep ascending canyon
<p><b>To the right</b>: The "<span lang="fr">D&eacute;collement</span>" is unexplored. In the bottom is the "<span lang="fr" xml:lang=
pitch, with, at its base, a sloping chamber full of boulders. To the left a "fr">M&eacute;andre Emeri</span>", so called because the formations
very deep ascending canyon is unexplored. In the bottom is the are orientated in the direction of progress and of the draught.
"<span lang="fr">M&eacute;andre Emeri</span>", so called because the This rejoins a wide pitch with an inlet. After this 15m pitch is a
formations are orientated in the direction of progress and of the draught. short canyon and a damp 40m pitch. At the bottom, a huge descending
This rejoins a wide pitch with an inlet. After this 15m pitch is a short passage suddenly turns almost vertical. This is the "Toboggan",
canyon and a damp 40m pitch. At the bottom, a huge descending passage needing 20m of rope (a very spectacular passage). At this level one
suddenly turns almost vertical. This is the "Toboggan", needing 20m of rope again cuts a new streamway. The passage continues, then contracts,
(a very spectacular passage). At this level one again cuts a new streamway. and chokes at -385m.</p>
The passage continues, then contracts, and chokes at -385m. <p><b>Conclusion</b>: An enormous amount to see and to go back and
finish. The more we explore, the more we find ! With more support
<p><b>Conclusion</b>: An enormous amount to see and to go back and finish. we could do some extraordinary speleological work.</p>
The more we explore, the more we find ! With more support we could do some <p style="text-align: right" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">J.C.Hans</p>
extraordinary speleological work. <h2><a id="id122" lang="de" name="id122" xml:lang="de">UFO
SCHACHT</a> or <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GOUFFRE
<p align=right lang="fr">J.C.Hans OVNI</span></h2>
<p><b>Location</b>: Western <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes
<h2><a id="id122" lang="de">UFO SCHACHT</a> or <span lang="fr">GOUFFRE OVNI</span></h2> Gebirge - Hintergras</span><br />
<b>Depth</b>: -201m <b>Altitude</b>: about 1500m</p>
<p><b>Location</b>: Western <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge - Hintergras</span><br> <p><b>History</b>: Discovered in August 1974 by <span lang="fr"
xml:lang="fr">D.Motte</span>. Entrance unblocked by
<b>Depth</b>: -201m <b>Altitude</b>: about 1500m <acronym>GSAB</acronym> in 1975 and 76. Explored in August 1976 by
<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">F.Dechany</span> and <span lang="fr"
<p><b>History</b>: Discovered in August 1974 by xml:lang="fr">J.C.Hans</span>.</p>
<span lang="fr">D.Motte</span>. Entrance unblocked by <acronym>GSAB</acronym> <p><b>Description</b>: The entrance consists of a crack about 20cm
in 1975 and 76. Explored in August 1976 by <span lang="fr">F.Dechany</span> high, which was at first cleared as far as a chamber with no way
and <span lang="fr">J.C.Hans</span>. on. The draught which had enabled us to find the entrance now
showed us the way on. After having unblocked a fissure dubbed "Sas"
<p><b>Description</b>: The entrance consists of a crack about 20cm high, we arrived at a pitch. This is broken in five places. A second
which was at first cleared as far as a chamber with no way on. The draught pitch broken into three leads to a short canyon, then to several
which had enabled us to find the entrance now showed us the way on. After drops and pitches interspersed with short squeezes. The following
having unblocked a fissure dubbed "Sas" we arrived at a pitch. This is pitches can be seen as forming a single 80m shaft, divided into
broken in five places. A second pitch broken into three leads to a short five and becoming bigger and bigger in depth as well as width. The
canyon, then to several drops and pitches interspersed with short squeezes. cave continues by a fault rift two or three metres wide and
The following pitches can be seen as forming a single 80m shaft, divided penetrating by successive notches. The exploration will continue in
into five and becoming bigger and bigger in depth as well as width. The cave August 1977.</p>
continues by a fault rift two or three metres wide and penetrating by <p style="text-align: right" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">J.C.Hans</p>
successive notches. The exploration will continue in August 1977.
<p align=right lang="fr">J.C.Hans
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<center><font size=-1>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) <p style="font-size: 65%; text-align: center">(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) <span
<span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> 3 (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45</font> lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> 3 (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45</p>
<h1><span lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</span> 77-78</h1></center> <h1><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</span> 77-78</h1>
<p><b>Situation </b>: <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge West - Feuertal</span><br>
<b>Depth </b>: -607m<br>
<b>Altitude </b>: 1890m ; <span lang="de">Frigoschacht</span> 1875m<br>
<b>History </b>: see <a href="782012.htm"><span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> number 1</a>
<p>The <acronym>GSAB</acronym> expedition was organised from 5th to 29th
August, 1977
<p>Several individuals from different clubs joined up, and in parallel with
the exploration of the <span lang="fr">Gouffre Ovni</span> (-565m), the
<acronym>GSAB</acronym> expedition deepened
<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> and cleared up some unknowns.
<p><b>Situation</b> : <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge
West - Feuertal</span><br />
<b>Depth</b> : -607m<br />
<b>Altitude</b> : 1890m ; <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Frigoschacht</span> 1875m<br />
<b>History</b> : see <a href="782012.htm"><span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> number 1</a></p>
<p>The <acronym>GSAB</acronym> expedition was organised from 5th to
29th August, 1977</p>
<p>Several individuals from different clubs joined up, and in
parallel with the exploration of the <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">Gouffre Ovni</span> (-565m), the <acronym>GSAB</acronym>
expedition deepened <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Ahnenschacht</span> and cleared up some unknowns.</p>
<ul> <ul>
<li><span lang="de">Frigoschacht</span> (alt 1875m) was connected at a depth <li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Frigoschacht</span> (alt 1875m)
of 130m via pitches of 17, 5, 9, 9, 5 and 18m, with a final 11m pitch into was connected at a depth of 130m via pitches of 17, 5, 9, 9, 5 and
<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. 18m, with a final 11m pitch into <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<li>The Vegetable Garden was surveyed "de">Ahnenschacht</span>.</li>
<li>The Yodl system was explored, pushing <li>The Vegetable Garden was surveyed</li>
<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>'s depth to 607m <li>The Yodl system was explored, pushing <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<li>The <acronym>KGB</acronym> system was explored. "de">Ahnenschacht</span>'s depth to 607m</li>
<li>The <acronym>KGB</acronym> system was explored.</li>
</ul> </ul>
<h3>Yodl system</h3> <h3>Yodl system</h3>
<p>From the entrance, after 70m down the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<p>From the entrance, after 70m down the <span lang="de">Josef "de">Josef schacht</span>, climb down 7m over a large block and
schacht</span>, climb down 7m over a large block and descend about 12m in the descend about 12m in the bottom of a meander. Progress is then in
bottom of a meander. Progress is then in the meander, with a short climb in a the meander, with a short climb in a fault on the left and a 120m
fault on the left and a 120m pitch, in sections of 22m and 100m. Beyond is a pitch, in sections of 22m and 100m. Beyond is a tight canyon with a
tight canyon with a 20m pitch to a sump at -607m (the last part of the 100m 20m pitch to a sump at -607m (the last part of the 100m pitch is
pitch is wet). wet).</p>
<h4>Participants :</h4> <h4>Participants :</h4>
<dl lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">
<dl lang="fr"> <dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym> :<dd>F Dechany, E Degrave, D Ferri&egrave;re, J C Hans <dd>F Dechany, E Degrave, D Ferri&egrave;re, J C Hans</dd>
<dt><acronym>GSAB-CASEO</acronym> :<dd>G Feller, J Kirsch <dt><acronym>GSAB-CASEO</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>SSSPA</acronym> :<dd>Pierre Dethier <dd>G Feller, J Kirsch</dd>
<dt><acronym>GSREDAN</acronym> :<dd>J P Braun <dt><acronym>SSSPA</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>ES GEODE</acronym> :<dd>F Saussus <dd>Pierre Dethier</dd>
<dt><acronym>SC</acronym> Calcaires :<dd>J M Piron <dt><acronym>GSREDAN</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><span lang="en">no club affiliations</span> :<dd>T Disneur, H Weber <dd>J P Braun</dd>
<dt><acronym>ES GEODE</acronym> :</dt>
<dd>F Saussus</dd>
<dt><acronym>SC</acronym> Calcaires :</dt>
<dd>J M Piron</dd>
<dt><span lang="en" xml:lang="en">no club affiliations</span>
:</dt>
<dd>T Disneur, H Weber</dd>
</dl> </dl>
<h3>Mini-expedition from 25th June to 5th July (among
<h3>Mini-expedition from 25th June to 5th July (among individuals)</h3> individuals)</h3>
<p>The possibility of a connection with <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
<p>The possibility of a connection with "fr">Epag&eacute;dure</span> prompted a number of individual
<span lang="fr">Epag&eacute;dure</span> prompted a number of individual Belgian cavers to organise a mini-expedition.</p>
Belgian cavers to organise a mini-expedition. <p>We didn't make the connection, since a bed of dolomite
eliminated all hope. However, the trip did allow several Belgian
<p>We didn't make the connection, since a bed of dolomite eliminated all cavers to discover a new Austrian cave.</p>
hope. However, the trip did allow several Belgian cavers to discover a new <p><b lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Le Bilan</b> : -500m at first,
Austrian cave. several different endings and a new theory for the pursuit of
caves.</p>
<p><b lang="fr">Le Bilan</b> : -500m at first, several different endings <p>-150m in the upstream system from the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
and a new theory for the pursuit of caves. "de">Josef schacht</span> : stopped by something and fissure (a
high and tight canyon).</p>
<p>-150m in the upstream system from the <span lang="de">Josef schacht</span>
: stopped by something and fissure (a high and tight canyon).
<p>A new look at some areas: Enigmatic, <acronym>KGB</acronym>, <p>A new look at some areas: Enigmatic, <acronym>KGB</acronym>,
<span lang="fr">Gruy&egrave;re</span> and Schnaps. <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Gruy&egrave;re</span> and
Schnaps.</p>
<p>A visit and more exploration in the Belgica series. <p>A visit and more exploration in the Belgica series.</p>
<p><b>After the Bivouac</b> : a 10m pitch, then turn left into a
<p><b>After the Bivouac </b>: a 10m pitch, then turn left into a small small passage, ignore three pitches to the side, then descend
passage, ignore three pitches to the side, then descend pitches of 8 and 13m pitches of 8 and 13m to arrive at some easy squeezes on the left.
to arrive at some easy squeezes on the left. After this, a climb of 5m and a After this, a climb of 5m and a 42m pitch. Stops in a sand blockage
42m pitch. Stops in a sand blockage at -410m. at -410m.</p>
<p>Over the 13m pitch a small passage goes to several climbs in a
<p>Over the 13m pitch a small passage goes to several climbs in a fossil fossil series. There is a 25m pitch and two 10m pitches ending in
series. There is a 25m pitch and two 10m pitches ending in several very tight several very tight chimneys.</p>
chimneys.
<h4>Participants :</h4> <h4>Participants :</h4>
<dl lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">
<dl lang="fr"> <dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym>:</dt>
<dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym>:<dd>J P Braun, F Dechany, E Degrave <dd>J P Braun, F Dechany, E Degrave (<span lang="en" xml:lang=
(<span lang="en">organiser</span>), J C Hans "en">organiser</span>), J C Hans</dd>
<dt><acronym>GIPS</acronym>:<dd>F Spinoy <dt><acronym>GIPS</acronym>:</dt>
<dt><acronym>SCUCL</acronym>:<dd>Y Dubois <dd>F Spinoy</dd>
<dt><acronym>SCUCL</acronym>:</dt>
<dd>Y Dubois</dd>
</dl> </dl>
<p>We noted the visit of six members of CARSS who had left their
<p>We noted the visit of six members of CARSS who had left their bag of bag of bolts in the valley.</p>
bolts in the valley. <p lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Jean Pierre Braun.</p>
<p lang="fr">Jean Pierre Braun.
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<h1>GOUFFRE OVNI</h1></center> <b>Sp&eacute;alp</b> 2 (1978) pp 14-19</p>
<h1>GOUFFRE OVNI</h1>
<p>L'exp&eacute;dition d'&eacute;t&eacute; du <acronym>GSAB</acronym> dans <p>L'exp&eacute;dition d'&eacute;t&eacute; du
les <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> &agrave; permis l'exploration de ce <acronym>GSAB</acronym> dans les <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Totes Gebirge</span> &agrave; permis l'exploration de ce
nouveau gouffre de 565m de profondeur. Certes quelque peu nouveau gouffre de 565m de profondeur. Certes quelque peu
&eacute;clips&eacute; par ses deux voisins <b lang="de">(Kelli</b> et &eacute;clips&eacute; par ses deux voisins <b lang="de" xml:lang=
<b>Emp&eacute;gadure)</b> il n'en reste pas moins une tr&egrave;s belle "de">(Kelli</b> et <b>Emp&eacute;gadure)</b> il n'en reste pas
r&eacute;alisation pour une jeune &eacute;quipe, peu rod&eacute;e &agrave; la moins une tr&egrave;s belle r&eacute;alisation pour une jeune
premi&egrave;re de grande envergure ! &eacute;quipe, peu rod&eacute;e &agrave; la premi&egrave;re de
grande envergure !</p>
<p>Pour la localisation et d&eacute;couverte on se reporters &agrave; <p>Pour la localisation et d&eacute;couverte on se reporters
SP&Eacute;ALP <acronym>GSAB-SSS</acronym> no. 1 &agrave; SP&Eacute;ALP <acronym>GSAB-SSS</acronym> no. 1</p>
<h2>Description</h2> <h2>Description</h2>
<p>L'entr&eacute;e, un interstrate d&eacute;gag&eacute; en raison
<p>L'entr&eacute;e, un interstrate d&eacute;gag&eacute; en raison du courant du courant d'air, donne acc&egrave;s &agrave; une s&eacute;rie de
d'air, donne acc&egrave;s &agrave; une s&eacute;rie de puits courte et secs puits courte et secs au debut, qui vont en s'agrandissant en
au debut, qui vont en s'agrandissant en profondeur et en diam&egrave;tre et profondeur et en diam&egrave;tre et en s'humidifiant. La
en s'humidifiant. La premi&egrave;re exploration de 1976 avait reconnu le premi&egrave;re exploration de 1976 avait reconnu le gouffre
gouffre jusqu'a -200, &agrave; la base de P.40 (Trou Noir). les explos de jusqu'a -200, &agrave; la base de P.40 (Trou Noir). les explos de
cette ann&eacute;e d&eacute;but&egrave;rent par la descente d'un beau P.60 cette ann&eacute;e d&eacute;but&egrave;rent par la descente d'un
de forme constante et l&eacute;g&egrave;rement inclin&eacute;. A le base de beau P.60 de forme constante et l&eacute;g&egrave;rement
celui-ci on acc&egrave;de &agrave; la seule salle du gouffre: Salle inclin&eacute;. A le base de celui-ci on acc&egrave;de &agrave; la
Galactique o&ugrave; se s&eacute;parent deux r&eacute;seaux: l'actif et le seule salle du gouffre: Salle Galactique o&ugrave; se
fossile. s&eacute;parent deux r&eacute;seaux: l'actif et le fossile.</p>
<h3>Reseau Actif</h3> <h3>Reseau Actif</h3>
<p>En aval de la salle, un ressaut m&egrave;ne &agrave; une petite
<p>En aval de la salle, un ressaut m&egrave;ne &agrave; une petite salle salle entre les blocs, le Nid d'Amour... parce que <span lang="en"
entre les blocs, le Nid d'Amour... parce que <span lang="en">"Love</span> xml:lang="en">"Love</span> Nid" !! (qui osera dire qu'on a pas
Nid" !! (qui osera dire qu'on a pas d'id&eacute;e.) Entre les blocs s'ouvre d'id&eacute;e.) Entre les blocs s'ouvre un P.20
un P.20 imm&eacute;diatement suivit d'un P.25. En fait on arrive dans les imm&eacute;diatement suivit d'un P.25. En fait on arrive dans les
flancs d'un immense puits remontant dont on descend les 25 derniers flancs d'un immense puits remontant dont on descend les 25 derniers
m&egrave;tres pour prendre pied sur un fond plat de graviers. Au fond une m&egrave;tres pour prendre pied sur un fond plat de graviers. Au
chemin&eacute;e oblique am&egrave;ne un filet d'eau. fond une chemin&eacute;e oblique am&egrave;ne un filet d'eau.</p>
<p>Une fissure marque le d&eacute;part du m&eacute;andre <p>Une fissure marque le d&eacute;part du m&eacute;andre
Anti-Mati&egrave;re, o&ugrave; l'on rejoint directement le torrent Anti-Mati&egrave;re, o&ugrave; l'on rejoint directement le torrent
soutterain. Celui-ci est d'un d&eacute;bit moyen de deux litres seconde mais soutterain. Celui-ci est d'un d&eacute;bit moyen de deux litres
peut rapidement passer de 10 &agrave; 15 litres en cas de crues. Le seconde mais peut rapidement passer de 10 &agrave; 15 litres en cas
d&eacute;but du m&eacute;andre est rectiligne et entrecoup&eacute; de 3 de crues. Le d&eacute;but du m&eacute;andre est rectiligne et
petits puits et 2 ressauts. Au sommet du premier s'effectue, par les entrecoup&eacute; de 3 petits puits et 2 ressauts. Au sommet du
plafonds, la jonction avec la r&eacute;seau fossile. Rapidement le premier s'effectue, par les plafonds, la jonction avec la
m&eacute;andre se fait moins sympathique: haut et &eacute;troit, il est de r&eacute;seau fossile. Rapidement le m&eacute;andre se fait moins
plus tapiss&eacute; de boue (l'anti-mati&egrave;re) ce qui rend le sympathique: haut et &eacute;troit, il est de plus tapiss&eacute;
progression assez p&eacute;nible. Trois puits P.5, P.14 et P.10 coupent la de boue (l'anti-mati&egrave;re) ce qui rend le progression assez
progression. Ce dernier, suivit d'un ressaut de 3m, donne acc&egrave;s p&eacute;nible. Trois puits P.5, P.14 et P.10 coupent la
&agrave; une portion de galerie encombr&eacute;e par l'argile. Au bout de progression. Ce dernier, suivit d'un ressaut de 3m, donne
celle-ci le torrent se perd dans une fissure qui devient rapidement acc&egrave;s &agrave; une portion de galerie encombr&eacute;e par
imp&eacute;n&eacute;trable. La galerie, elle, se prolonge par une branche l'argile. Au bout de celle-ci le torrent se perd dans une fissure
fossile peu large. Apr&egrave;s une cinquintaine de m&egrave;tres, le qui devient rapidement imp&eacute;n&eacute;trable. La galerie,
courant d'air s'engage dans un orifice du sol, d&eacute;part d'un grands elle, se prolonge par une branche fossile peu large. Apr&egrave;s
puits de 70m en plusieurs paliers. une cinquintaine de m&egrave;tres, le courant d'air s'engage dans
un orifice du sol, d&eacute;part d'un grands puits de 70m en
<p>A la moiti&eacute; on rejoint le torrent que l'on &eacute;vite par un plusieurs paliers.</p>
puits parall&egrave;le fossile. Imm&eacute;diatement suit un autre puits de <p>A la moiti&eacute; on rejoint le torrent que l'on &eacute;vite
55m totalement arros&eacute; et caract&eacute;ris&eacute; par sa section par un puits parall&egrave;le fossile. Imm&eacute;diatement suit un
elliptique et sa pente r&eacute;guli&egrave;re. Au fond l'eau s'engouffre autre puits de 55m totalement arros&eacute; et
dans une fissure d'environ trois m&egrave;tres de long, suivie d'un caract&eacute;ris&eacute; par sa section elliptique et sa pente
&eacute;troit m&eacute;andre que nous n'avons pas pu forcer. r&eacute;guli&egrave;re. Au fond l'eau s'engouffre dans une fissure
d'environ trois m&egrave;tres de long, suivie d'un &eacute;troit
m&eacute;andre que nous n'avons pas pu forcer.</p>
<h3>R&eacute;seau Fossile</h3> <h3>R&eacute;seau Fossile</h3>
<p>En amont de la Salle Galactique, une lucarne &agrave; quelques <p>En amont de la Salle Galactique, une lucarne &agrave; quelques
m&egrave;tres de hauteur, permet d'acc&eacute;der &agrave; une galerie de m&egrave;tres de hauteur, permet d'acc&eacute;der &agrave; une
belle dimensions (3x3 de moyenne). La Galerie des Petits Hommes Vertes. On galerie de belle dimensions (3x3 de moyenne). La Galerie des Petits
bute sur un ressaut de 3m au bas duquel s'&eacute;coule un petit filet Hommes Vertes. On bute sur un ressaut de 3m au bas duquel
d'eau, qui emprunte un m&eacute;andre creus&eacute; en dessous de la galerie s'&eacute;coule un petit filet d'eau, qui emprunte un
fossile (voir plus loin). Apr&egrave;s un r&eacute;tr&eacute;cissement et un m&eacute;andre creus&eacute; en dessous de la galerie fossile (voir
ressaut, le galerie se termine sur un &eacute;boulis entre lequel il est plus loin). Apr&egrave;s un r&eacute;tr&eacute;cissement et un
encore possible de faire une dizaine de m&egrave;tres. ressaut, le galerie se termine sur un &eacute;boulis entre lequel
il est encore possible de faire une dizaine de m&egrave;tres.</p>
<p>En suivent le m&eacute;andre sous le galerie on aboutit au Puits de la <p>En suivent le m&eacute;andre sous le galerie on aboutit au Puits
Gomete (d&eacute;couvert par les Gaumais) P.60 arros&eacute; dans sa de la Gomete (d&eacute;couvert par les Gaumais) P.60 arros&eacute;
derni&egrave;re partie par le pipi. A la base du puits d'amorce le dans sa derni&egrave;re partie par le pipi. A la base du puits
m&eacute;andre des Mutants. C'est le m&eacute;andre pour masos par d'amorce le m&eacute;andre des Mutants. C'est le m&eacute;andre
excellence: bas, &eacute;troit et accrochant... Il se termine par un pour masos par excellence: bas, &eacute;troit et accrochant... Il
s&eacute;rie de ressauts et un P.30 jonctionnant avec le r&eacute;seau se termine par un s&eacute;rie de ressauts et un P.30 jonctionnant
actif. avec le r&eacute;seau actif.</p>
<h2>G&eacute;ologie</h2> <h2>G&eacute;ologie</h2>
<h3>Generalit&eacute;</h3> <h3>Generalit&eacute;</h3>
<p>Du point de vue g&eacute;ologique, le Gouffre Ovni est un
<p>Du point de vue g&eacute;ologique, le Gouffre Ovni est un exemple typique exemple typique des ph&eacute;nom&egrave;nes karstiques du massif
des ph&eacute;nom&egrave;nes karstiques du massif et m&ecircum;me de la plus et m&ecirc;me de la plus grande partie du karst Autrichien.
grande partie du karst Autrichien. On n'a pas ici de zone de puits donnant On n'a pas ici de zone de puits donnant sur un collecteur au niveau
sur un collecteur au niveau imperm&eacute;able (type Pyr&eacute;n&eacute;en) imperm&eacute;able (type Pyr&eacute;n&eacute;en) ni de gouffres
ni de gouffres &eacute;troits verticaux (type Vercors et Chartreuse). Les &eacute;troits verticaux (type Vercors et Chartreuse). Les facteurs
facteurs primordiaux de formation sont la fracturation orog&eacute;nique primordiaux de formation sont la fracturation orog&eacute;nique
intense doubl&eacute;e d'un climat tr&egrave;s pluvieux et d'importantes intense doubl&eacute;e d'un climat tr&egrave;s pluvieux et
chutes de neige depuis le d&eacute;but de l'&egrave;re. d'importantes chutes de neige depuis le d&eacute;but de
l'&egrave;re.</p>
<p>Ces gouffres s'ouvrent donc g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement au profit d'une <p>Ces gouffres s'ouvrent donc g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement au profit
forme simple de discontinuit&eacute; dans les calcaires (diaclase, d'une forme simple de discontinuit&eacute; dans les calcaires
stratification). Puis ils vont en s'&eacute;largissant de plus en plus pour (diaclase, stratification). Puis ils vont en s'&eacute;largissant
rejoindre des ph&eacute;nom&egrave;nes de grande envergure (faille, de plus en plus pour rejoindre des ph&eacute;nom&egrave;nes de
super-diaclase). Le collecteur, quand il existe, n'est grande envergure (faille, super-diaclase). Le collecteur, quand il
g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement que tr&egrave;s court et tr&egrave;s pr&egrave;s existe, n'est g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement que tr&egrave;s court et
de la resurgence. tr&egrave;s pr&egrave;s de la resurgence.</p>
<h3>Le Gouffre Ovni</h3> <h3>Le Gouffre Ovni</h3>
<p>L'Orifice du gouffre est un interstrate d&eacute;gag&eacute; sur
<p>L'Orifice du gouffre est un interstrate d&eacute;gag&eacute; sur deux deux m&egrave;tres environ. C'est ensuite une s&eacute;rie de
m&egrave;tres environ. C'est ensuite une s&eacute;rie de puits, assez puits, assez petits, form&eacute;s dans une diaclase assez sinueuse
petits, form&eacute;s dans une diaclase assez sinueuse s'&eacute;largissant s'&eacute;largissant suivant le stratification et le pendage
suivant le stratification et le pendage tr&egrave;s fort en cette zone. Aux tr&egrave;s fort en cette zone. Aux environs de -200, on commence
environs de -200, on commence &agrave; sentir l'influence d'un autre &agrave; sentir l'influence d'un autre facteur. Les puits
facteur. Les puits deviennent de plus en plus grands et les parois de plus deviennent de plus en plus grands et les parois de plus en plus
en plus nettes. La section devient caract&eacute;ristique d'une faille nettes. La section devient caract&eacute;ristique d'une faille
orient&eacute;e sommairement O-E (voir sch&eacute;ma no. 1) orient&eacute;e sommairement O-E (voir sch&eacute;ma no. 1)</p>
<div class="centre">
<p><center><img alt="sch&eacute;ma 1, 3k gif" width=512 height=128 <img alt="sch&eacute;ma 1, 3k gif" width="512" height="128"
src="../ovnif1.png"></center> src="../ovnif1.png" /></div>
<p>Cette faille va d&eacute;terminer la majeure partie de la
<p>Cette faille va d&eacute;terminer la majeure partie de la formation du formation du gouffre. En effet, la suite du r&eacute;seau s'est
gouffre. En effet, la suite du r&eacute;seau s'est creus&eacute;e &agrave; creus&eacute;e &agrave; diff&eacute;rents niveaux de cette faille.
diff&eacute;rents niveaux de cette faille. (sch&eacute;ma no. 2) (sch&eacute;ma no. 2)</p>
<p><img class="onleft" alt="Sch&eacute;ma 2, 3k gif" width="275" height="385"
<p><img alt="Sch&eacute;ma 2, 3k gif" width=275 height=385 align="left" src="../ovnif2.png" />
hspace=10 vspace=10 src="../ovnif2.png"> <b>Sch&eacute;ma 2: Plan de la faille</b></p>
<b>Sch&eacute;ma 2: Plan de la faille</b>
<ul> <ul>
<li>1e le puits Zorglub et les chemin&eacute;es du P&egrave;re No&euml;l. <li>1e le puits Zorglub et les chemin&eacute;es du P&egrave;re
No&euml;l.</li>
<li>2e La Salle Galactique et le premier tiers de la Galerie des Petits Hommes <li>2e La Salle Galactique et le premier tiers de la Galerie des
Vertes (les deux tiers restant sont en interstrates). Petits Hommes Vertes (les deux tiers restant sont en
interstrates).</li>
<li>3e Le puits &agrave; Descendre le Temps et le puits de la Gaumette avec <li>3e Le puits &agrave; Descendre le Temps et le puits de la
le m&eacute;andre des Mutants. Gaumette avec le m&eacute;andre des Mutants.</li>
<li>4e La partie large du m&eacute;andre Anti-Mati&egrave;re (Le <li>4e La partie large du m&eacute;andre Anti-Mati&egrave;re (Le
d&eacute;calage de cette partie) par rapport au reste (plan) est du au fait d&eacute;calage de cette partie) par rapport au reste (plan) est du
que la faille est cass&eacute;e en son milieu. au fait que la faille est cass&eacute;e en son milieu.</li>
</ul> </ul>
<br clear="all"> <p style="clear: both">Suite &agrave; la partie large du m&eacute;andre
Anti-Mati&egrave;re, une zone tr&egrave;s &eacute;troite marque la
<p>Suite &agrave; la partie large du m&eacute;andre Anti-Mati&egrave;re, une jonction avec une seconde faille orient&eacute;e SO-NE qui &agrave;
zone tr&egrave;s &eacute;troite marque la jonction avec une seconde faille elle seule d&eacute;terminera toute la suite de gouffre. On
orient&eacute;e SO-NE qui &agrave; elle seule d&eacute;terminera toute la pourrait croire en voyant la topo, qu'il s'agit d'un m&eacute;andre
suite de gouffre. On pourrait croire en voyant la topo, qu'il s'agit d'un en diaclase vu sa sinuosit&eacute;. En fait la partie rectiligne et
m&eacute;andre en diaclase vu sa sinuosit&eacute;. En fait la partie large de cette faille est impracticable car elle surplombe
rectiligne et large de cette faille est impracticable car elle surplombe
continuellement un &agrave;-pic de 6m dont les l&egrave;vres sont continuellement un &agrave;-pic de 6m dont les l&egrave;vres sont
d&eacute;vers&eacute;es et boueuses. L'on est donc oblig&eacute; d'emprunter d&eacute;vers&eacute;es et boueuses. L'on est donc oblig&eacute;
le fond en surcreusement. Plus loin on suit une partie plus large, bien d'emprunter le fond en surcreusement. Plus loin on suit une partie
marqu&eacute;e par la faille, Elle est suivie par un d&eacute;crochement plus large, bien marqu&eacute;e par la faille, Elle est suivie par
o&ugrave; se perd le ruisseau. La galerie, elle, continue dans la un d&eacute;crochement o&ugrave; se perd le ruisseau. La galerie,
m&ecircum;me direction, toujours d&eacute;termin&eacute;e par la fissuration. elle, continue dans la m&ecirc;me direction, toujours
La zone de puits qui fait suite se d&eacute;veloppe &eacute;galement dans la d&eacute;termin&eacute;e par la fissuration. La zone de puits qui
partie inf&eacute;rieure de la faille; bien qu'elle ait l'apparence d'une fait suite se d&eacute;veloppe &eacute;galement dans la partie
conduite forc&eacute;e. inf&eacute;rieure de la faille; bien qu'elle ait l'apparence d'une
conduite forc&eacute;e.</p>
<h3>Possibilit&eacute;s de Continuation</h3> <h3>Possibilit&eacute;s de Continuation</h3>
<p>Comme on le remarque &agrave; l'observation de la topo, la
<p>Comme on le remarque &agrave; l'observation de la topo, la Galerie Galerie Principale se prolonge et n'a pas &eacute;t&eacute;
Principale se prolonge et n'a pas &eacute;t&eacute; explor&eacute;e. Il explor&eacute;e. Il semble que l'on soit en pr&eacute;sence d'un
semble que l'on soit en pr&eacute;sence d'un simple ph&eacute;nom&egrave;ne simple ph&eacute;nom&egrave;ne de r&eacute;gression et que
de r&eacute;gression et que logiquement on devrait trouver une autre logiquement on devrait trouver une autre s&eacute;rie de puits
s&eacute;rie de puits fossiles permettant de rejoindre le niveau de base. fossiles permettant de rejoindre le niveau de base. (Sch&eacute;ma
(Sch&eacute;ma no. 3 et 4) no. 3 et 4)</p>
<div class="centre">
<center><p><img alt="Sch&eacute;ma 3 - 5k gif" width=480 height=480 <img style="border: 2px solid black" alt="Sch&eacute;ma 3 - 5k gif" width="480" height="480"
src="ovnif3.png"><p><img alt="Sch&eacute;ma 4 - 3k gif" width=325 height=340 src="ovnif3.png" />&nbsp; &nbsp;
src="ovnif4.png"></center> <img style="border: 2px solid black" alt="Sch&eacute;ma 4 - 3k gif" width="325" height="340"
src="ovnif4.png" />
<p>La puissance du Dachsteinkalk (calcaire jurassique granuleux) avoisine </div>
les 700 m&egrave;tres &agrave; partir de l'entr&eacute;e. <p>La puissance du Dachsteinkalk (calcaire jurassique granuleux)
avoisine les 700 m&egrave;tres &agrave; partir de
l'entr&eacute;e.</p>
<h3>M&eacute;t&eacute;orologie</h3> <h3>M&eacute;t&eacute;orologie</h3>
<p><img alt="Sch&eacute;ma 5 - 2k gif" width="265" height="435"
<p><img alt="Sch&eacute;ma 5 - 2k gif" width=265 height=435 align=right class="onright" src="../ovnif5.png" />
hspace=10 vspace=0 src="../ovnif5.png"> <b>Sch&eacute;ma 5: Sch&eacute;ma du courant d'air aux principaux
<b>Sch&eacute;ma 5: Sch&eacute;ma du courant d'air aux principaux points de points de perception:</b></p>
perception:</b> <p>Comme nous l'avons d&eacute;ja dit, c'est un violent courant
d'air qui etire notre attention sur l'Ovni. Ce courant d'air
<p>Comme nous l'avons d&eacute;ja dit, c'est un violent courant d'air qui &eacute;tant soufflant et la p&eacute;riode &eacute;tant chause
etire notre attention sur l'Ovni. Ce courant d'air &eacute;tant soufflant et (&eacute;t&eacute;), nous devrions logiquement nous trouver en
la p&eacute;riode &eacute;tant chause (&eacute;t&eacute;), nous devrions pr&eacute;sence d'une entr&eacute;e interm&eacute;diaire. Vu la
logiquement nous trouver en pr&eacute;sence d'une entr&eacute;e violence du courant d'air froid chass&eacute;, l'existence d'une
interm&eacute;diaire. Vu la violence du courant d'air froid chass&eacute;, entr&eacute;e sup&eacute;rieure est quasi certaine. La prospection
l'existence d'une entr&eacute;e sup&eacute;rieure est quasi certaine. La du mamelon dominant l'entr&eacute;e n'a pas donn&eacute; resultats.
prospection du mamelon dominant l'entr&eacute;e n'a pas donn&eacute; Il s'agit l&agrave; d'un objectif &agrave; revoir car la
resultats. Il s'agit l&agrave; d'un objectif &agrave; revoir car la v&eacute;g&eacute;tation et les aspics ne nous ont pas permis
v&eacute;g&eacute;tation et les aspics ne nous ont pas permis d'operer un d'operer un quadrillage efficace.</p>
quadrillage efficace. <p>La jonction avec cet orofice sup&eacute;rieur devrait
s'effectuer au niveau de la galerie des Petits Hommes Vertes; soit
<p>La jonction avec cet orofice sup&eacute;rieur devrait s'effectuer au par la chemin&eacute;e arros&eacute;e de la fin de la faille I,
niveau de la galerie des Petits Hommes Vertes; soit par la chemin&eacute;e soit par les plafonds aux 2/3, l&agrave; ou l'on perd le courant
arros&eacute;e de la fin de la faille I, soit par les plafonds aux 2/3, d'air. D'autre part, la pr&eacute;sence au fond d'un courant d'air
l&agrave; ou l'on perd le courant d'air. D'autre part, la pr&eacute;sence au violent lui aussi, laissarait pr&eacute;sumer d'une sortie
fond d'un courant d'air violent lui aussi, laissarait pr&eacute;sumer d'une inf&eacute;rieure, vraisemblablement d'une r&eacute;surgence
sortie inf&eacute;rieure, vraisemblablement d'une r&eacute;surgence fossile. fossile. Cependant il ne s'agit l&agrave; que de suppositions, les
Cependant il ne s'agit l&agrave; que de suppositions, les caprices d'un caprices d'un courant d'air sont trop d&eacute;licats &agrave;
courant d'air sont trop d&eacute;licats &agrave; traiter. traiter.</p>
<h3 style="clear: both">Conclusions</h3>
<br clear="all"> <p>On voit par la br&egrave;ve analyse du gouffre que les chances
de continuation ne sont pas minimes. Or cette cavit&eacute; n'est
<h3>Conclusions</h3> pas extr&egrave;mement difficile d'acc&egrave;s, ni d'exploration.
Des travaux pourraient y &ecirc;tre repris tr&egrave;s
<p>On voit par la br&egrave;ve analyse du gouffre que les chances de prochainement, mais il ne s'agit cependant que d'un objectif
continuation ne sont pas minimes. Or cette cavit&eacute; n'est pas secondaire compar&eacute; aux possibilit&eacute;s
extr&egrave;mement difficile d'acc&egrave;s, ni d'exploration. Des travaux Autrichiennes.</p>
pourraient y &ecircum;tre repris tr&egrave;s prochainement, mais il ne s'agit <p>G.Feller. GSAB.</p>
cependant que d'un objectif secondaire compar&eacute; aux
possibilit&eacute;s Autrichiennes.
<p>G.Feller. GSAB.
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<h1 lang="de" xml:lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE</h1>
<h1 lang="de">TOTES GEBIRGE</h1> <h2 style="text-align: center">Description des principaux gouffres de la zone
ouest du massif</h2>
<h2>Description des principaux gouffres de la zone ouest du massif</h2></center> <p><b>Introduction</b>: le choix de cette zone est tout &agrave;
fait arbitraire. En effet, il y a tr&egrave;s peu de chance que
<p><b>Introduction</b>: le choix de cette zone est tout &agrave; fait cette zone soit drain&eacute;e par le m&ecirc;me complexe
arbitraire. En effet, il y a tr&egrave;s peu de chance que cette zone soit hydrologique. Si pour certains r&eacute;seaux la ou les resurgences
drain&eacute;e par le m&ecirc;me complexe hydrologique. Si pour certains pr&eacute;sum&eacute;es sont pratiquement certaines, il n'en est
r&eacute;seaux la ou les resurgences pr&eacute;sum&eacute;es sont pas de m&ecirc;me pour les autres qui peuvent prendre des
pratiquement certaines, il n'en est pas de m&ecirc;me pour les autres qui directions totalement oppos&eacute;es ! Notre choix est fonction
peuvent prendre des directions totalement oppos&eacute;es ! Notre choix est des moyen d'acc&egrave;s: routes, telebenne, sentier, refuge etc.
fonction des moyen d'acc&egrave;s: routes, telebenne, sentier, refuge etc. Les <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> qui sont un
Les <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> qui sont un des plus grands massifs des plus grands massifs karstique d'Autriche n'est ais&eacute;ment
karstique d'Autriche n'est ais&eacute;ment accessible qu'en certains accessible qu'en certains endroits, dont celoi que nous passons en
endroits, dont celoi que nous passons en revue. De cette zone il y a revue. De cette zone il y a plusieurs kilom&egrave;tres de lapiaz
plusieurs kilom&egrave;tres de lapiaz totalement vierge. Plusieurs heures de totalement vierge. Plusieurs heures de marche sont necessaire pour
marche sont necessaire pour y aller. De plus dans cette zone seule une infime y aller. De plus dans cette zone seule une infime partie est plus
partie est plus ou moins prospect&eacute;e. Il s'agit de la vall&eacute;e de ou moins prospect&eacute;e. Il s'agit de la vall&eacute;e de
<span lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, de la <span lang="de">Feuertal</span> et <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, de la <span lang=
des abords du sentier qui y conduit ainsi que des parois nord du <span "de" xml:lang="de">Feuertal</span> et des abords du sentier qui y
lang="de">Hagender Kogel</span> dans lesquelles s'ouvre la <span conduit ainsi que des parois nord du <span lang="de" xml:lang=
lang="de">Tropfsteinh&ouml;hle</span> qui &eacute;tait extraordinairement "de">Hagender Kogel</span> dans lesquelles s'ouvre la <span lang=
concr&eacute;tionn&eacute;e mais qui est compl&egrave;tement pill&eacute;e "de" xml:lang="de">Tropfsteinh&ouml;hle</span> qui &eacute;tait
aujourd'hui. extraordinairement concr&eacute;tionn&eacute;e mais qui est
compl&egrave;tement pill&eacute;e aujourd'hui.</p>
<p><b>Recherches Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o</b>: ont &eacute;t&eacute; <p><b>Recherches Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o</b>: ont &eacute;t&eacute;
principalement men&eacute;es par nos amis Autrichiens de Haute-Autriche, un principalement men&eacute;es par nos amis Autrichiens de
groupe Anglais, deux groupes Fran&ccedil;ais et nous. Pour notre part nous Haute-Autriche, un groupe Anglais, deux groupes Fran&ccedil;ais et
n'avons pratiquement pas prospect&eacute;, sauf en 1976. Nous nous sommes nous. Pour notre part nous n'avons pratiquement pas
content&eacute;s de descendre certains trous rep&eacute;r&eacute;s et encore prospect&eacute;, sauf en 1976. Nous nous sommes content&eacute;s
pas tous ( nous le regrettons am&egrave;rement aujourd'hui car d'autre ont de descendre certains trous rep&eacute;r&eacute;s et encore pas
trouv&eacute; &agrave; notre place ). Notre effort s'est surtout port&eacute; tous ( nous le regrettons am&egrave;rement aujourd'hui car d'autre
sur l'<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>, mais un manque chronique de ont trouv&eacute; &agrave; notre place ). Notre effort s'est
sp&eacute;l&eacute;os valables et de pratique de pointe ( en 75 nous surtout port&eacute; sur l'<span lang="de" xml:lang=
&eacute;tions 4 ). ne nous ont pas permis d'avancer comme nous l'aurions "de">Ahnenschacht</span>, mais un manque chronique de
d&eacute;sir&eacute;e. sp&eacute;l&eacute;os valables et de pratique de pointe ( en 75
nous &eacute;tions 4 ). ne nous ont pas permis d'avancer comme nous
<p><b>Geologie-Hydrologie</b>: n'&eacute;tant pas g&eacute;ologue et n'en l'aurions d&eacute;sir&eacute;e.</p>
ayant pas au groupe nous ne ferons qu'esquisser les grandes lignes. La grosse <p><b>Geologie-Hydrologie</b>: n'&eacute;tant pas g&eacute;ologue
majorit&eacute; de la r&eacute;gion est constitu&eacute;e de <span et n'en ayant pas au groupe nous ne ferons qu'esquisser les grandes
lang="de">Dachsteinkalk</span> avec aussi certaines poches de Dolomie bien lignes. La grosse majorit&eacute; de la r&eacute;gion est
visibles &agrave; certains endroits et notamment au nord de l'<span constitu&eacute;e de <span lang="de" xml:lang=
lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. Un autre probl&egrave;me, la pr&eacute;sence "de">Dachsteinkalk</span> avec aussi certaines poches de Dolomie
d'une nappe de charriage entre -400 et -500 qui risque de cr&eacute;er des bien visibles &agrave; certains endroits et notamment au nord de
ennuis au Gouffre des Aieux. Pour le <span lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, le l'<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. Un autre
drainage est pratiquement certain: la resurgence de crue serait la <span probl&egrave;me, la pr&eacute;sence d'une nappe de charriage entre
lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> au sud du trou et au nord d'<span -400 et -500 qui risque de cr&eacute;er des ennuis au Gouffre des
lang="de">Altaussee</span>. La jonction entre les deux devrait &ecirc;tre Aieux. Pour le <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, le
possible soit directement soit par plong&eacute;e. Le QUELLI devrait lui drainage est pratiquement certain: la resurgence de crue serait la
aussi se diriger dans la m&ecirc;me direction si du moins on en croit le <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Nagelstegh&ouml;hle</span> au sud du
pendage. N&eacute;anmoins le Quelli s'ouvrant &agrave; 2km au NE du <span trou et au nord d'<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Altaussee</span>.
lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, il faut &ecirc;tre tr&egrave;s La jonction entre les deux devrait &ecirc;tre possible soit
r&eacute;serv&eacute;. directement soit par plong&eacute;e. Le QUELLI devrait lui aussi se
diriger dans la m&ecirc;me direction si du moins on en croit le
<p>L'<b lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</b> se situ&eacute; dans une zone pendage. N&eacute;anmoins le Quelli s'ouvrant &agrave; 2km au NE du
limit&eacute;e tr&egrave;s compl&egrave;xe, et peut tr&egrave;s bien se <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Raucherkar</span>, il faut &ecirc;tre
diriger dans plusieurs directions totalement oppos&eacute;es. Il est tr&egrave;s r&eacute;serv&eacute;.</p>
tr&egrave;s possible que plusieurs directions sont valables. Les explorations <p>L'<b lang="de" xml:lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</b> se situ&eacute;
ne sont pas suffisamment &eacute;loign&eacute;es en plan pour pouvoir se dans une zone limit&eacute;e tr&egrave;s compl&egrave;xe, et peut
prononcer. tr&egrave;s bien se diriger dans plusieurs directions totalement
oppos&eacute;es. Il est tr&egrave;s possible que plusieurs
<p>L'<b>EMPAGADURE</b> et le <b>Gouffre OVNI</b> devraient normalement se directions sont valables. Les explorations ne sont pas suffisamment
diriger vers le nord ou de tr&egrave;s nombreuses resurgences sont visibles. &eacute;loign&eacute;es en plan pour pouvoir se prononcer.</p>
Les autres directions ne sont cependant pas &agrave; n&eacute;gliger. De <p>L'<b>EMPAGADURE</b> et le <b>Gouffre OVNI</b> devraient
toutes fa&ccedil;ons les explorations serons pouss&eacute;es beaucoup plus normalement se diriger vers le nord ou de tr&egrave;s nombreuses
loin cette ann&eacute;e et nous y verrons peut-&ecirc;tre plus clair. resurgences sont visibles. Les autres directions ne sont cependant
pas &agrave; n&eacute;gliger. De toutes fa&ccedil;ons les
<p>Du point de vue Hydrologique il est tr&egrave;s regrettable qu'aucunes explorations serons pouss&eacute;es beaucoup plus loin cette
colorations n'aient pu &ecirc;tre r&eacute;alis&eacute;es et cela par manque ann&eacute;e et nous y verrons peut-&ecirc;tre plus clair.</p>
d'autorisation de collaboration et d'interet !!! <p>Du point de vue Hydrologique il est tr&egrave;s regrettable
qu'aucunes colorations n'aient pu &ecirc;tre
r&eacute;alis&eacute;es et cela par manque d'autorisation de
<h2 lang="de"><a id="id55">RAUCHERKARH&Ouml;HLENSYSTEM</a></h2> collaboration et d'interet !!!</p>
<h2 lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a id="id55" name=
<p>Styrie <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> 1632m<br> "id55">RAUCHERKARH&Ouml;HLENSYSTEM</a></h2>
<p>Styrie <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>
Profondeur: -723m<br> 1632m<br />
Profondeur: -723m<br />
D&eacute;veloppement: environ 20km<br> D&eacute;veloppement: environ 20km<br />
Fond: Siphon</p>
Fond: Siphon <p><b>Situation</b>: partie Ouest du <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Totes Gebirge</span>, au Sud de <span lang="de" xml:lang=
<p><b>Situation</b>: partie Ouest du <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>, au "de">Sch&ouml;nberg</span>, 2km au SO du <span lang="de" xml:lang=
Sud de <span lang="de">Sch&ouml;nberg</span>, 2km au SO du "de">Ahnenschacht</span>.</p>
<span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span>. <p><b>Historique</b>: la premi&egrave;re explo commence en 1961. En
65 la cavit&eacute; comporte 6 km de galeries pour 246m de
<p><b>Historique</b>: la premi&egrave;re explo commence en 1961. En 65 la profondeur. L'exp&eacute; f&eacute;d&eacute;rale Autrichienne de 65
cavit&eacute; comporte 6 km de galeries pour 246m de profondeur. permet d'atteindre -530m. En 73, le <span lang="de" xml:lang=
L'exp&eacute; f&eacute;d&eacute;rale Autrichienne de 65 permet d'atteindre "de"><acronym>LVfHK</acronym> Ober&ouml;sterreich &amp;
-530m. En 73, le <span lang="de"><acronym>LVfHK</acronym> Ober&ouml;sterreich Steiermark</span> touchent le siphon &agrave; -723m.
&amp; Steiermark</span> touchent le siphon &agrave; -723m. D&eacute;veloppement 18km.</p>
D&eacute;veloppement 18km. <p><b>Description</b>: le gouffre ne comprend pas moins de 13
entr&eacute;es &eacute;tag&eacute;es entre 1500 et 1632m
<p><b>Description</b>: le gouffre ne comprend pas moins de 13 entr&eacute;es d'altitude. Le r&eacute;seau labyrinthique comporte plusieurs
&eacute;tag&eacute;es entre 1500 et 1632m d'altitude. Le r&eacute;seau &eacute;tages se d&eacute;veloppant en grande partie vers le Sud en
labyrinthique comporte plusieurs &eacute;tages se d&eacute;veloppant en direction de la <b lang="de" xml:lang="de">NAGELSTEGH&Ouml;HLE</b>
grande partie vers le Sud en direction de la ( Resurgence probable, alt.: 850m ). Il est int&eacute;ressant de
<b lang="de">NAGELSTEGH&Ouml;HLE</b> ( Resurgence probable, alt.: 850m ). Il noter que le siphon terminal a pu &ecirc;tre atteint en contournant
est int&eacute;ressant de noter que le siphon terminal a pu &ecirc;tre systematiquement les puits de plus de 90-40m.</p>
atteint en contournant systematiquement les puits de plus de 90-40m. <p><b>Auteur de la Fiche</b>: Etienne Degrave.</p>
<h2><a id="id120" name="id120">QUELLI</a> ou <span lang="de"
<p><b>Auteur de la Fiche</b>: Etienne Degrave. xml:lang="de">KACHERLSCHACHT</span></h2>
<p><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest -
<span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Feuertal -
<h2><a id="id120">QUELLI</a> ou Sch&ouml;nberg</span><br />
<span lang="de">KACHERLSCHACHT</span></h2> Profondeur: -708m<br />
Altitude: ~1950m</p>
<p><span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest - <span lang="de">Feuertal - <p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en 1973 par le
Sch&ouml;nberg</span><br> <acronym>GSAB</acronym> sous le nom de T3. Red&eacute;couvert en
juilllet 76 par J.M.Piron explor&eacute; du 12 au 23 juillet par
Profondeur: -708m<br> A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou Darboun et Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o
Ragaie.</p>
Altitude: ~1950m <p><b>Description</b>: P8, p19, p83, p33, p24, p17, p5, p33, p24,
p9, p33, p27, p103. A -400m, on acc&egrave;de &agrave; une vaste
<p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en 1973 par le <acronym>GSAB</acronym> galerie avec amont et aval. La galerie aval d&eacute;bouche au
sous le nom de T3. Red&eacute;couvert en juilllet 76 par J.M.Piron sommet d'un p84. Suit alors un m&eacute;andre entrecoup&eacute; de
explor&eacute; du 12 au 23 juillet par A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou Darboun et petits puits dont un p 15 terminus de l'exploration &agrave;
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie. -708m.</p>
<p>Etienne Degrave</p>
<p><b>Description</b>: P8, p19, p83, p33, p24, p17, p5, p33, p24, p9, p33, <h2><a id="id117" name="id117">EMPAGADURE</a></h2>
p27, p103. A -400m, on acc&egrave;de &agrave; une vaste galerie avec amont et <p><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest -
aval. La galerie aval d&eacute;bouche au sommet d'un p84. Suit alors un <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Hintergras</span><br />
m&eacute;andre entrecoup&eacute; de petits puits dont un p 15 terminus de Profondeur: -587m<br />
l'exploration &agrave; -708m. Altitude: 1610m</p>
<p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en juillet 1976 par
<p>Etienne Degrave F.Vergier. Explor&eacute; du 12 au 23 juillet 76 par l'A.C.Toulon,
S.C.Toulon, Lou Darboun, Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie.</p>
<h2><a id="id117">EMPAGADURE</a></h2> <p><b>Description</b>: jusqu'&agrave; -287m, le gouffre est
constitu&eacute; de puits modestes entrecoup&eacute;s de
<p><span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest - <span lang="de">Hintergras</span><br> m&eacute;andres &eacute;troits : p8, p12, p17, p9, p20, p3, p12,
p30, p7, p6, p9, p8, p7, p5, p34, p6, p8, p5, p9. A -287m, un p21
Profondeur: -587m<br> permet de d&eacute;boucher dans une grande salle. L'eau disparait
dans les &eacute;boulis pour r&eacute;apparaitre dans toute une
Altitude: 1610m s&eacute;rie de puits arros&eacute;s dont le plus profond mesure
30m. Les crues ont emp&eacute;ch&eacute; l'exploration du fond de
<p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en juillet 1976 par F.Vergier. cette branche: &agrave; -456m, un puits d'vingtaine de
Explor&eacute; du 12 au 23 juillet 76 par l'A.C.Toulon, S.C.Toulon, Lou m&egrave;tres &eacute;tait vraiment trop arros&eacute; pour
Darboun, Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie. &ecirc;tre descendu. A -488m, un passage bas &eacute;tait aussi
trop humide. De plus le courant d'air y &eacute;tait faible ou nul.
<p><b>Description</b>: jusqu'&agrave; -287m, le gouffre est constitu&eacute; Dans la salle &agrave; -308m une remont&eacute;e d'une quinzaine de
de puits modestes entrecoup&eacute;s de m&eacute;andres &eacute;troits : p8, m&egrave;tres permet d'acc&eacute;der &agrave; un m&eacute;andre
p12, p17, p9, p20, p3, p12, p30, p7, p6, p9, p8, p7, p5, p34, p6, p8, p5, p9. fossile assez large ou souffle un courant d'air sensible. Au bout
A -287m, un p21 permet de d&eacute;boucher dans une grande salle. L'eau de 30m ce m&eacute;andre s'ouvre sur l'&eacute;norme Puits de
disparait dans les &eacute;boulis pour r&eacute;apparaitre dans toute une Naufrag&eacute;s, d'une section moyenne de 15m sur 25m. Dans ce
s&eacute;rie de puits arros&eacute;s dont le plus profond mesure 30m. Les puits, plusieurs arriv&eacute;es d'eau venaient vraisemblablement
crues ont emp&eacute;ch&eacute; l'exploration du fond de cette branche: de la premi&egrave;re branche explor&eacute;e. La bas de puits se
&agrave; -456m, un puits d'vingtaine de m&egrave;tres &eacute;tait vraiment r&eacute;tr&eacute;cit en diaclase, l'exploration s'&eacute;tant
trop arros&eacute; pour &ecirc;tre descendu. A -488m, un passage bas arret&eacute;e au sommet d'un puits estim&eacute; &agrave; 40m.</p>
&eacute;tait aussi trop humide. De plus le courant d'air y &eacute;tait <p>Etienne Degrave</p>
faible ou nul. Dans la salle &agrave; -308m une remont&eacute;e d'une <h2 lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a id="id50" name=
quinzaine de m&egrave;tres permet d'acc&eacute;der &agrave; un m&eacute;andre "id50">AHNENSCHACHT</a></h2>
fossile assez large ou souffle un courant d'air sensible. Au bout de 30m ce <p>Situation: <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>
m&eacute;andre s'ouvre sur l'&eacute;norme Puits de Naufrag&eacute;s, d'une Ouest - <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Feuertal</span><br />
section moyenne de 15m sur 25m. Dans ce puits, plusieurs arriv&eacute;es Profondeur: -612m<br />
d'eau venaient vraisemblablement de la premi&egrave;re branche D&eacute;veloppement: + de 5km.<br />
explor&eacute;e. La bas de puits se r&eacute;tr&eacute;cit en diaclase, Altitude: 1890m</p>
l'exploration s'&eacute;tant arret&eacute;e au sommet d'un puits
estim&eacute; &agrave; 40m.
<p>Etienne Degrave
<h2 lang="de"><a id="id50">AHNENSCHACHT</a></h2>
<p>Situation: <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest - <span
lang="de">Feuertal</span><br>
Profondeur: -612m<br>
D&eacute;veloppement: + de 5km.<br>
Altitude: 1890m
<p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert par nos coll&egrave;gues de <p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert par nos coll&egrave;gues de
Haute-Autriche en 1856. La cote -320m est atteinte par ceux-ci en 1958. En Haute-Autriche en 1856. La cote -320m est atteinte par ceux-ci en
1967 et 1968 le Bristol Exploration Club atteind -400m, le r&eacute;seau 1958. En 1967 et 1968 le Bristol Exploration Club atteind -400m, le
horizontal, sur 1km, est d&eacute;couvert. En 1972, 73, 74 et 75, le r&eacute;seau horizontal, sur 1km, est d&eacute;couvert. En 1972,
<acronym>GSAB</acronym> "Les Gours" explore et d&eacute;couvre plus de 5km de 73, 74 et 75, le <acronym>GSAB</acronym> "Les Gours" explore et
galeries et explore environ 1500m de puits. Ce qui lui permet d'atteindre d&eacute;couvre plus de 5km de galeries et explore environ 1500m de
-612m. On note &eacute;galement la participation, en 1974, de trois clubs puits. Ce qui lui permet d'atteindre -612m. On note
Fran&ccedil;ais de l'Est de la France: S.C.Vesoul, G.S.Clerval et S.S.Daules. &eacute;galement la participation, en 1974, de trois clubs
En 1975 le <acronym>CARSS</acronym> a particip&eacute; &agrave; la Fran&ccedil;ais de l'Est de la France: S.C.Vesoul, G.S.Clerval et
mini-exp&eacute; de juillet ainsi que le <acronym>CASEO</acronym> en S.S.Daules. En 1975 le <acronym>CARSS</acronym> a particip&eacute;
Ao&ucirc;t. &agrave; la mini-exp&eacute; de juillet ainsi que le
<acronym>CASEO</acronym> en Ao&ucirc;t.</p>
<h3>Description: Puits d'entr&eacute;e</h3> <h3>Description: Puits d'entr&eacute;e</h3>
<p>L'entr&eacute;e s'ouvre dans une petite doline situ&eacute;e sur
<p>L'entr&eacute;e s'ouvre dans une petite doline situ&eacute;e sur la la cr&ecirc;te limitant le <span lang="de" xml:lang=
cr&ecirc;te limitant le <span lang="de">Feuertal</span> du <span "de">Feuertal</span> du <span lang="de" xml:lang=
lang="de">Hintergras</span>. Le gouffre d&eacute;bute par quatre puits (p14, "de">Hintergras</span>. Le gouffre d&eacute;bute par quatre puits
p11, p5 et p11) qui donnent acc&egrave;s sur une pente form&eacute;e de gros (p14, p11, p5 et p11) qui donnent acc&egrave;s sur une pente
blocs (corde souhaitable). Ensuite une autre s&eacute;rie de petits puits (p9, p7, p6, p4, p10, p18, p11) d'o&ugrave; l'on acc&egrave;de &agrave; la form&eacute;e de gros blocs (corde souhaitable). Ensuite une autre
"Terrasse Suintante" &agrave; -141m de profondeur. s&eacute;rie de petits puits (p9, p7, p6, p4, p10, p18, p11)
d'o&ugrave; l'on acc&egrave;de &agrave; la "Terrasse Suintante"
<p>A partir de l&agrave;, on a termin&eacute; la zone de petits puits et l'on &agrave; -141m de profondeur.</p>
arrive dans une s&eacute;rie de puits qui en r&eacute;alit&eacute; n'en <p>A partir de l&agrave;, on a termin&eacute; la zone de petits
constitue qu'un seul jusqu'&agrave; -400m. puits et l'on arrive dans une s&eacute;rie de puits qui en
r&eacute;alit&eacute; n'en constitue qu'un seul jusqu'&agrave;
-400m.</p>
<p>En effet, exp&eacute;rience faite avec un kid. tomb&eacute; <p>En effet, exp&eacute;rience faite avec un kid. tomb&eacute;
malencontreusement, tout ce qui tombe de la "Terrasse Suintante" arrive malencontreusement, tout ce qui tombe de la "Terrasse Suintante"
&agrave; -400. Les puits sont g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement arros&eacute;, arrive &agrave; -400. Les puits sont g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement
surtout apr&egrave;s un orage... Voici la Liste de ces puits: p25, Puits arros&eacute;, surtout apr&egrave;s un orage... Voici la Liste de
Ecailleux 30, p10, Puits Stable 32, Puits Fourchette 48, rampe de 10m, Puits ces puits: p25, Puits Ecailleux 30, p10, Puits Stable 32, Puits
Josef 100m. Pour la Puits Josef, un pendule &agrave; 6m de l'entr&eacute;e Fourchette 48, rampe de 10m, Puits Josef 100m. Pour la Puits Josef,
permet d'atteindre la porte du r&eacute;seau dit "Horizontal". Si un pendule &agrave; 6m de l'entr&eacute;e permet d'atteindre la
l'on descend le Puits Josef on peut, apr&egrave;s deux puits de 6.5 et 10m, porte du r&eacute;seau dit "Horizontal". Si l'on descend le Puits
explorer un large m&eacute;andre, actif dans le fond et se terminant sur Josef on peut, apr&egrave;s deux puits de 6.5 et 10m, explorer un
fissure. Ce m&eacute;andre est fossile dans le haut et pr&eacute;sente large m&eacute;andre, actif dans le fond et se terminant sur
certainement des possibilit&eacute;s de continuation. fissure. Ce m&eacute;andre est fossile dans le haut et
pr&eacute;sente certainement des possibilit&eacute;s de
continuation.</p>
<h4>R&eacute;seau Horizontal</h4> <h4>R&eacute;seau Horizontal</h4>
<p>Apr&egrave;s avoir franchis la "Porte" et une courte
<p>Apr&egrave;s avoir franchis la "Porte" et une courte &eacute;troiture, on &eacute;troiture, on p&eacute;n&egrave;tre dans le r&eacute;seau
p&eacute;n&egrave;tre dans le r&eacute;seau proprement dit. Celui-ci proprement dit. Celui-ci d&eacute;bute par une galerie couverte de
d&eacute;bute par une galerie couverte de concr&eacute;tions assez concr&eacute;tions assez sp&eacute;ciales. Le premier embranchement
sp&eacute;ciales. Le premier embranchement permet d'acc&eacute;der au permet d'acc&eacute;der au r&eacute;seau... [ <span lang="en"
r&eacute;seau... [ <span lang="en">line(s) lost at end of photocopy page xml:lang="en">line(s) lost at end of photocopy page here</span>
here</span> ] ]</p>
<h4>Potager Fleuri</h4> <h4>Potager Fleuri</h4>
<p>Ce r&eacute;seau fossile, qui n'a &eacute;t&eacute; que
<p>Ce r&eacute;seau fossile, qui n'a &eacute;t&eacute; que parcouru, contient parcouru, contient encore de nombreuses possibilit&eacute;s. Trois
encore de nombreuses possibilit&eacute;s. Trois acc&eacute;s principaux nous acc&eacute;s principaux nous y conduisent: le puits d&eacute;ja
y conduisent: le puits d&eacute;ja mentionn&eacute;, un peu avant le mentionn&eacute;, un peu avant le "Belgica" une fissure descendante
"Belgica" une fissure descendante et une galerie en pente et et une galerie en pente et concr&eacute;tionn&eacute;e, dans la
concr&eacute;tionn&eacute;e, dans la salle du "Puits Mammouth". Le salle du "Puits Mammouth". Le r&eacute;seau comporte une vaste
r&eacute;seau comporte une vaste salle de nombreuses galeries et carrefours; salle de nombreuses galeries et carrefours; il est tr&egrave;s
il est tr&egrave;s malconnu et pourrait r&eacute;server de grosses surprises. malconnu et pourrait r&eacute;server de grosses surprises.</p>
<p>En continuant la galerie, on passe un seuil de 4m et l'on trouve
<p>En continuant la galerie, on passe un seuil de 4m et l'on trouve un un carrefour sur la gauche qui sert de bivouac.</p>
carrefour sur la gauche qui sert de bivouac.
<h4>R&eacute;seau Belgica</h4> <h4>R&eacute;seau Belgica</h4>
<p>Apr&egrave;s le bivouac, il y a directement un p10 et au bas un
<p>Apr&egrave;s le bivouac, il y a directement un p10 et au bas un nouveau nouveau carrefour: &agrave; l'aval la galerie "Belgica" d'assez
carrefour: &agrave; l'aval la galerie "Belgica" d'assez petite dimension petite dimension permet, apr&egrave;s avoir laisser trois puits sur
permet, apr&egrave;s avoir laisser trois puits sur le cot&eacute;, de le cot&eacute;, de descendre un p8, un p17 et d'arriver sur des
descendre un p8, un p17 et d'arriver sur des &eacute;troitures franchies par &eacute;troitures franchies par nos coll&egrave;gues
nos coll&egrave;gues Fran&ccedil;ais. A revoir. Fran&ccedil;ais. A revoir.</p>
<p>A l'amont, d&eacute;couverte par D.Motte et
<p>A l'amont, d&eacute;couverte par D.Motte et <acronym>PIE</acronym>, au <acronym>PIE</acronym>, au cours de l'exp&eacute;dition de 1974;
cours de l'exp&eacute;dition de 1974; s'ouvre la "Galerie des Francs s'ouvre la "Galerie des Francs comtois". Grosse galerie fossile
comtois". Grosse galerie fossile remontante entrecoup&eacute;e de remontante entrecoup&eacute;e de travers&eacute;es, de ressauts et
travers&eacute;es, de ressauts et de puits. Elle permet de remonter de puits. Elle permet de remonter jusqu'&agrave; -90. A -150 un p20
jusqu'&agrave; -90. A -150 un p20 a permis de trouver le a permis de trouver le "R&eacute;som&eacute;ga".</p>
"R&eacute;som&eacute;ga". <p>Un peu avant le p20 un court m&eacute;andre descendant permet
d'eviter le p20 et la s&eacute;rie d'&eacute;troiture lui
<p>Un peu avant le p20 un court m&eacute;andre descendant permet d'eviter le succ&eacute;dant. Le "R&eacute;som&eacute;ga" est une galerie
p20 et la s&eacute;rie d'&eacute;troiture lui succ&eacute;dant. Le alternativement descendante et remontante, tr&egrave;s chaotique,
"R&eacute;som&eacute;ga" est une galerie alternativement descendante et entrecoup&eacute;e de nombreuses carrefours et puits, qui
remontante, tr&egrave;s chaotique, entrecoup&eacute;e de nombreuses m&egrave;ne au "Balcon du Visionnaire", offrant plusieurs
carrefours et puits, qui m&egrave;ne au "Balcon du Visionnaire", offrant possibilit&eacute;s. Un p60 donnant sur un autre p60 non descendu.
plusieurs possibilit&eacute;s. Un p60 donnant sur un autre p60 non descendu.
Un autre grand puits de plus de 100m et une galerie remontante non Un autre grand puits de plus de 100m et une galerie remontante non
termin&eacute;e. Un peu avant le p10 a permis d'explorer une galerie termin&eacute;e. Un peu avant le p10 a permis d'explorer une
entrecoup&eacute;e de trois carrefours et de 7 d&eacute;parts !!!! Ceci galerie entrecoup&eacute;e de trois carrefours et de 7
montre la complexit&eacute; &agrave; laquelle nous nous heurtons. d&eacute;parts !!!! Ceci montre la complexit&eacute; &agrave;
laquelle nous nous heurtons.</p>
<p>C'est &eacute;galement au "Balcon du Visionnaire" qu'a eu lieu l'accident <p>C'est &eacute;galement au "Balcon du Visionnaire" qu'a eu lieu
de 1975, qui a arret&eacute; l'exploration cette ann&eacute;e l&agrave;. l'accident de 1975, qui a arret&eacute; l'exploration cette
ann&eacute;e l&agrave;.</p>
<p>En reprenant la galerie horizontale et apr&egrave;s avoir pass&eacute; une <p>En reprenant la galerie horizontale et apr&egrave;s avoir
petite mont&eacute;e encombr&eacute;e de blocs, on rencontre une pass&eacute; une petite mont&eacute;e encombr&eacute;e de blocs, on
arriv&eacute;e d'eau, baptis&eacute;e "Le Bain". Celle-ci a &eacute;t&eacute; rencontre une arriv&eacute;e d'eau, baptis&eacute;e "Le Bain".
suivie sur une petite longeur, avec arret sur puits. A terminer. Celle-ci a &eacute;t&eacute; suivie sur une petite longeur, avec
arret sur puits. A terminer.</p>
<p>L'embranchement suivant a &eacute;t&eacute; nomm&eacute; "Carrefour du <p>L'embranchement suivant a &eacute;t&eacute; nomm&eacute;
Mammouth" car la galerie de droite donne sur le puits du m&ecirc;me nom. Il "Carrefour du Mammouth" car la galerie de droite donne sur le puits
faut d'ailleur faire tr&egrave;s attention de ne pas glisser car se serait du m&ecirc;me nom. Il faut d'ailleur faire tr&egrave;s attention de
alors la chute dans celui-ci. ne pas glisser car se serait alors la chute dans celui-ci.</p>
<p>Les Puits Mammouth, Parapuits et probablement le Puits Negus,
<p>Les Puits Mammouth, Parapuits et probablement le Puits Negus, font partie font partie d'un m&ecirc;me r&eacute;seau ( voir topo ) qui se
d'un m&ecirc;me r&eacute;seau ( voir topo ) qui se compose d'un p146, d'un compose d'un p146, d'un p10 et d'un m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit
p10 et d'un m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit entrecoup&eacute; de nombreuses entrecoup&eacute; de nombreuses cascades, finalement un p35 donne
cascades, finalement un p35 donne sur un siphon &agrave; -612m. Le sur un siphon &agrave; -612m. Le "Parapuits" p106 est suivi de: p5,
"Parapuits" p106 est suivi de: p5, p10, p50 et tombe par celui-ci dans le p10, p50 et tombe par celui-ci dans le "M&eacute;andre du
"M&eacute;andre du Mammouth". Mammouth".</p>
<p>Le "Puits du N&eacute;gus", non descendu, devrait donner
<p>Le "Puits du N&eacute;gus", non descendu, devrait donner &eacute;galement &eacute;galement dans le m&ecirc;me m&eacute;andre. Plusieurs
dans le m&ecirc;me m&eacute;andre. Plusieurs autres petits puits et autres petits puits et m&eacute;andres actifs devraient
m&eacute;andres actifs devraient &eacute;galement rejoindre ce r&eacute;seau. &eacute;galement rejoindre ce r&eacute;seau.</p>
<p>La cote -612m est sujette &agrave; caution car la m&eacute;thode
<p>La cote -612m est sujette &agrave; caution car la m&eacute;thode topo topo employ&eacute;e ( hauteur d'homme ) est assez
employ&eacute;e ( hauteur d'homme ) est assez impr&eacute;cise. La cote impr&eacute;cise. La cote pourrait se situer entre -580 et -630m.
pourrait se situer entre -580 et -630m. Le manque de temps ne nous a pas Le manque de temps ne nous a pas permis de refaire ces topos.
permis de refaire ces topos. Peut-&ecirc;tre cette ann&eacute;e ???? Peut-&ecirc;tre cette ann&eacute;e ????</p>
<p>En prenant &agrave; gauche, la "Galerie Zipfer" se parcourt sur
<p>En prenant &agrave; gauche, la "Galerie Zipfer" se parcourt sur 150m avant 150m avant de rencontrer un embranchement important: &agrave;
de rencontrer un embranchement important: &agrave; gauche la "Galerie des gauche la "Galerie des Chemin&eacute;es", &agrave; droite la
Chemin&eacute;es", &agrave; droite la galerie du "Courant d'air". galerie du "Courant d'air".</p>
<h4>Galerie des Chemin&eacute;es</h4> <h4>Galerie des Chemin&eacute;es</h4>
<p>Tr&egrave;s vaste et d'une pente r&eacute;guli&egrave;re, qui
<p>Tr&egrave;s vaste et d'une pente r&eacute;guli&egrave;re, qui est est entrecoup&eacute;e au milieu par une &eacute;troiture et deux
entrecoup&eacute;e au milieu par une &eacute;troiture et deux petit petit r&eacute;sseaux. On &eacute;vite par une travers&eacute;e le
r&eacute;sseaux. On &eacute;vite par une travers&eacute;e le "Puits Schnaps" "Puits Schnaps" p40 avec m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit non
p40 avec m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit non explor&eacute; et on arrive sur un explor&eacute; et on arrive sur un p25 dans lequel il faut penduler
p25 dans lequel il faut penduler &agrave; 5m du fond pour rejoindre une salle &agrave; 5m du fond pour rejoindre une salle dans laquelle nous
dans laquelle nous retrouvons une petite rivi&egrave;re. Un peu en remontant retrouvons une petite rivi&egrave;re. Un peu en remontant en face
en face trouver une courte galerie sup&eacute;rieure rejoignant la trouver une courte galerie sup&eacute;rieure rejoignant la
rivi&egrave;re par un p20. Dans la salle, la descente d'un p10, permet de rivi&egrave;re par un p20. Dans la salle, la descente d'un p10,
suivre la rivi&egrave;re jusqu'&agrave; une &eacute;troiture derri&egrave;re permet de suivre la rivi&egrave;re jusqu'&agrave; une
laquelle on entend gronder une grosse rivi&egrave;re ? Zone &agrave; revoir. &eacute;troiture derri&egrave;re laquelle on entend gronder une
grosse rivi&egrave;re ? Zone &agrave; revoir.</p>
<h4>Galerie du Courant d'Air</h4> <h4>Galerie du Courant d'Air</h4>
<p>Fossile et &eacute;troite par endroit, a permis d'explorer un <p>Fossile et &eacute;troite par endroit, a permis d'explorer un
r&eacute;seau tr&egrave;s complexe et se recoupant en divers endroit et qui r&eacute;seau tr&egrave;s complexe et se recoupant en divers
pourrait r&eacute;server de tr&egrave;s grosses surprises, car son endroit et qui pourrait r&eacute;server de tr&egrave;s grosses
exploration n'en est qu'&eacute;bauch&eacute;e. On d&eacute;bouche par la surprises, car son exploration n'en est qu'&eacute;bauch&eacute;e.
galerie de courant d'air sur une zone d'&eacute;boulis ou deux On d&eacute;bouche par la galerie de courant d'air sur une zone
possibilit&eacute;s existent; d'&eacute;boulis ou deux possibilit&eacute;s existent;</p>
<p><b>&agrave; gauche</b>: un passage &eacute;troit et une conduite <p><b>&agrave; gauche</b>: un passage &eacute;troit et une conduite
forc&eacute;e en pente am&egrave;ne au Puits du Kit, magnifique p50 bien forc&eacute;e en pente am&egrave;ne au Puits du Kit, magnifique p50
large et plein vide. A sa base plusieurs possibilit&eacute;s. Un bien large et plein vide. A sa base plusieurs possibilit&eacute;s.
m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit et actif que l'on peut court-circuiter par une Un m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit et actif que l'on peut
galerie fossile, coup&eacute; par un ressaut terreux de 3m puis un vaste p15 court-circuiter par une galerie fossile, coup&eacute; par un
m&egrave;ne au siphon &agrave; -360m. ressaut terreux de 3m puis un vaste p15 m&egrave;ne au siphon
&agrave; -360m.</p>
<p>Un ressaut de quelques m&egrave;tres permet l'acc&egrave;s &agrave; une <p>Un ressaut de quelques m&egrave;tres permet l'acc&egrave;s
vaste galerie fossile ( 10 x 5 ). Le sol de celle-ci est sillonn&eacute; d'un &agrave; une vaste galerie fossile ( 10 x 5 ). Le sol de celle-ci
profond m&eacute;andre qui n'a pas &eacute;t&eacute; explor&eacute;. Au bout est sillonn&eacute; d'un profond m&eacute;andre qui n'a pas
d'une centaine de m&egrave;tre la galerie s'ach&egrave;ve sur un vaste puits &eacute;t&eacute; explor&eacute;. Au bout d'une centaine de
arros&eacute;. L'escalade d'un gros &eacute;boulis sur la droite permet m&egrave;tre la galerie s'ach&egrave;ve sur un vaste puits
d'acceder &agrave; un autre puits remontant. arros&eacute;. L'escalade d'un gros &eacute;boulis sur la droite
permet d'acceder &agrave; un autre puits remontant.</p>
<p>Peu apr&egrave;s la base du "Puits du kit" une galerie de 80m permet <p>Peu apr&egrave;s la base du "Puits du kit" une galerie de 80m
defaire la jonction avec la r&eacute;seau du "Puits du d&eacute;collement" permet defaire la jonction avec la r&eacute;seau du "Puits du
&agrave; la base du p40. Un m&eacute;andre partant de la galerie de la d&eacute;collement" &agrave; la base du p40. Un m&eacute;andre
jonction peut-&ecirc;tre parcouru sur plus de 300m et d&eacute;bouche, en partant de la galerie de la jonction peut-&ecirc;tre parcouru sur
plusieurs endroits, dans le flanc de la grande galerie fossile, peu avant les plus de 300m et d&eacute;bouche, en plusieurs endroits, dans le
puits remontants. flanc de la grande galerie fossile, peu avant les puits
remontants.</p>
<p><b>&agrave; droite</b>: Le puits du "D&eacute;collement" avec &agrave; sa <p><b>&agrave; droite</b>: Le puits du "D&eacute;collement" avec
base une salle en pente encombr&eacute;e d'&eacute;boulis. A gauche un &agrave; sa base une salle en pente encombr&eacute;e
m&eacute;andre remontant tr&egrave;s profond non explor&eacute;. Dans le fond d'&eacute;boulis. A gauche un m&eacute;andre remontant tr&egrave;s
s'ouvre le "M&eacute;andre Emeri" ainsi appel&eacute; parce que les profond non explor&eacute;. Dans le fond s'ouvre le "M&eacute;andre
concr&eacute;tions sont orient&eacute;es dans le sens de la marche et du Emeri" ainsi appel&eacute; parce que les concr&eacute;tions sont
vent. Celui-ci rejoint un large puits avec une arriv&eacute;e d'eau. orient&eacute;es dans le sens de la marche et du vent. Celui-ci
Apr&egrave;s ce p15, un court m&eacute;andre et un p40 rejoint un large puits avec une arriv&eacute;e d'eau. Apr&egrave;s
l&eacute;g&egrave;rement arros&eacute;. A sa base, la vaste galerie ce p15, un court m&eacute;andre et un p40 l&eacute;g&egrave;rement
descendante devient soudain presque verticale. C'est le "Tobogan" necessitant arros&eacute;. A sa base, la vaste galerie descendante devient
20m de corde (Passage tr&egrave;s spectaculaire). On recoupe &agrave; ce soudain presque verticale. C'est le "Tobogan" necessitant 20m de
corde (Passage tr&egrave;s spectaculaire). On recoupe &agrave; ce
niveau un nouveau ruisseau. La galerie se poursuit, puis se niveau un nouveau ruisseau. La galerie se poursuit, puis se
r&eacute;tr&eacute;sit et queute &agrave; -385m r&eacute;tr&eacute;sit et queute &agrave; -385m</p>
<p><b>Conclusion</b>: &eacute;norm&eacute;ment &agrave; voir et
<p><b>Conclusion</b>: &eacute;norm&eacute;ment &agrave; voir et &agrave; &agrave; revoir completement. Plus nous avan&ccedil;ons et plus
revoir completement. Plus nous avan&ccedil;ons et plus nous trouvons ! Un nous trouvons ! Un apport de sp&eacute;l&eacute;o nous permettrait
apport de sp&eacute;l&eacute;o nous permettrait de faire du travail de faire du travail extraordinaire.</p>
extraordinaire. <p style="text-align: right">J.C.Hans</p>
<h2><a id="id122" name="id122">GOUFFRE OVNI</a> = <span lang="de"
<p align=right>J.C.Hans xml:lang="de">UFO SCHACHT</span></h2>
<p>Situation: <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>
<h2><a id="id122">GOUFFRE OVNI</a> = <span lang="de">UFO SCHACHT</span></h2> Ouest - <span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Hintergras</span><br />
Profondeur: -201m<br />
<p>Situation: <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> Ouest - <span Altitude: environ 1500m</p>
lang="de">Hintergras</span><br> <p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en Ao&ucirc;t 1974 par
D.Motte. Entr&eacute;e d&eacute;sobstru&eacute;e par le
Profondeur: -201m<br> <acronym>GSAB</acronym> en 1975 et 76. Explor&eacute; au mois
d'Ao&ucirc;t 76 par F.Dechany et J.C.Hans.</p>
Altitude: environ 1500m <p><b>Description</b>: L'entr&eacute;e se constituait d'une fente
d'environ 20cm de hauteur, qui a d'abord &eacute;t&eacute;
<p><b>Historique</b>: D&eacute;couvert en Ao&ucirc;t 1974 par D.Motte. d&eacute;gag&eacute;e jusqu'&agrave; une salle close de toute part.
Entr&eacute;e d&eacute;sobstru&eacute;e par le <acronym>GSAB</acronym> en Le courant d'air qui avait permis de trouver l'entr&eacute;e, nous
1975 et 76. Explor&eacute; au mois d'Ao&ucirc;t 76 par F.Dechany et J.C.Hans. indiquait le chemin &agrave; suivre. Apr&egrave;s avoir
d&eacute;bouch&eacute; une fissure, appel&eacute;e "Sas" nous
<p><b>Description</b>: L'entr&eacute;e se constituait d'une fente d'environ arrivons sur un puits. Celui-ci est fractionn&eacute; en 5
20cm de hauteur, qui a d'abord &eacute;t&eacute; d&eacute;gag&eacute;e endroits. Un deuxi&egrave;me puits fractionn&eacute; en trois
jusqu'&agrave; une salle close de toute part. Le courant d'air qui avait m&egrave;ne &agrave; un court m&eacute;andre puis &agrave;
permis de trouver l'entr&eacute;e, nous indiquait le chemin &agrave; suivre. plusieurs ressauts et puits entrecoup&eacute; de courtes
Apr&egrave;s avoir d&eacute;bouch&eacute; une fissure, appel&eacute;e "Sas" &eacute;troitures. On peut consid&eacute;rer les puits suivants
nous arrivons sur un puits. Celui-ci est fractionn&eacute; en 5 endroits. Un comme formant un seul de 80m, divis&eacute; en cinq et devient de
deuxi&egrave;me puits fractionn&eacute; en trois m&egrave;ne &agrave; un plus en plus grand aussi bien en profondeur qu'en largeur. Le
court m&eacute;andre puis &agrave; plusieurs ressauts et puits gouffre continue par une faille de deux &agrave; trois
entrecoup&eacute; de courtes &eacute;troitures. On peut consid&eacute;rer m&egrave;tres de large et s'enfon&ccedil;ant par crans successifs.
les puits suivants comme formant un seul de 80m, divis&eacute; en cinq et L'exploration continuera en Ao&ucirc;t 1977</p>
devient de plus en plus grand aussi bien en profondeur qu'en largeur. Le <p style="text-align: right">J.C.Hans</p>
gouffre continue par une faille de deux &agrave; trois m&egrave;tres de large
et s'enfon&ccedil;ant par crans successifs. L'exploration continuera en
Ao&ucirc;t 1977
<p align=right>J.C.Hans
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<ul> <ul>
<li><a href="../index.htm" lang="en"><acronym>GSAB</acronym> articles list</a></li> <li><a href="../index.htm" lang="en" xml:lang=
"en"><acronym>GSAB</acronym> articles list</a></li>
<li><b>Cave descriptions</b> (in English translation): <li><b>Cave descriptions</b> (in English translation):
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Sp&eacute;alp 3 (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45</font> (<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 3
<h1><span lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</span> 77-78</h1></center> (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45</p>
<h1><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">AHNENSCHACHT</span> 77-78</h1>
<p><b>Situation</b> : Totes Gebirge West - Feuertal<br>
<b>Profondeur</b> : -607m<br>
<b>Altitude</b> : 1890m; Frigoschacht 1875m<br>
<b>Historique</b> : voir <a href="782012.htm">Sp<EFBFBD>alp no. 1</a>
<p>Exp<EFBFBD>dition GSAB organis<69>e en 1977 du 5 au 29 Ao<41>t.
<p>Elle a regroup<75> plusieurs individuels venant de diff<66>rents clubs, et
parall<EFBFBD>lement <20> l'exploration du Gouffre Ovni (-565m), l'exp<78>dition du GSAB a
pu approfondir le Gouffre Ahnenschacht et r<>soudres quelques inconnues.
<p><b>Situation</b> : Totes Gebirge West - Feuertal<br />
<b>Profondeur</b> : -607m<br />
<b>Altitude</b> : 1890m; Frigoschacht 1875m<br />
<b>Historique</b> : voir <a href="782012.htm">Sp&eacute;alp no.
1</a></p>
<p>Exp&eacute;dition GSAB organis&eacute;e en 1977 du 5 au 29
Ao&ucirc;t.</p>
<p>Elle a regroup&eacute; plusieurs individuels venant de
diff&eacute;rents clubs, et parall&egrave;lement &agrave;
l'exploration du Gouffre Ovni (-565m), l'exp&eacute;dition du GSAB
a pu approfondir le Gouffre Ahnenschacht et r&eacute;soudres
quelques inconnues.</p>
<ul> <ul>
<li>Jonction Frigoschacht (alt 1875m) <EFBFBD> -130m par <li>Jonction Frigoschacht (alt 1875m) &agrave; -130m par P17, P5,
P17, P5, P9, P9, P5 et P18, P11 de l'Ahnenschacht. P9, P9, P5 et P18, P11 de l'Ahnenschacht.</li>
<li>Topgraphie du r<EFBFBD>seau potager fleuri. <li>Topgraphie du r&eacute;seau potager fleuri.</li>
<li>Exploration du r<EFBFBD>seau Yodl (-607m). <li>Exploration du r&eacute;seau Yodl (-607m).</li>
<li>Exploration dans le r<EFBFBD>seau KGB. <li>Exploration dans le r&eacute;seau KGB.</li>
</ul> </ul>
<h3>R&eacute;seau Yodl</h3>
<h3>R<EFBFBD>seau Yodl</h3> <p>De la porte, apr&egrave;s les 70m du puits Josef, on descend un
ressaut de 7m escalade sur un gros bloc et descente du 12m environ
<p>De la porte, apr<70>s les 70m du puits Josef, on descend un ressaut de 7m dans le bas d'un m&eacute;andre. Le progression se fait dans ce
escalade sur un gros bloc et descente du 12m environ dans le bas d'un m&eacute;andre, ensuite courte escalade dans une faille sur la
m<EFBFBD>andre. Le progression se fait dans ce m<EFBFBD>andre, ensuite courte escalade dans gauche et un puits de 120m, par tron&ccedil;ons de 22m et 100m.
une faille sur la gauche et un puits de 120m, par tron<6F>ons de 22m et 100m. Ensuite, un m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit, P20 jusqu'&agrave; un
Ensuite, un m<>andre <20>troit, P20 jusqu'<27> un siphon <20> -607m (la derni<6E>re partie siphon &agrave; -607m (la derni&egrave;re partie du P100 est
du P100 est arros<6F>). arros&eacute;).</p>
<h4>Participants :</h4> <h4>Participants :</h4>
<dl> <dl>
<dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym> :<dd>F Dechany, E Degrave, D Ferri&egrave;re, J C Hans <dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>GSAB-CASEO</acronym> :<dd>G Feller, J Kirsch <dd>F Dechany, E Degrave, D Ferri&egrave;re, J C Hans</dd>
<dt><acronym>SSSPA</acronym> :<dd>Pierre Dethier <dt><acronym>GSAB-CASEO</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>GSREDAN</acronym> :<dd>J P Braun <dd>G Feller, J Kirsch</dd>
<dt><acronym>ES GEODE</acronym> :<dd>F Saussus <dt><acronym>SSSPA</acronym> :</dt>
<dt><acronym>SC</acronym> Calcaires :<dd>J M Piron <dd>Pierre Dethier</dd>
<dt><span lang="en">no club affiliations</span> :<dd>T Disneur, H Weber <dt><acronym>GSREDAN</acronym> :</dt>
<dd>J P Braun</dd>
<dt><acronym>ES GEODE</acronym> :</dt>
<dd>F Saussus</dd>
<dt><acronym>SC</acronym> Calcaires :</dt>
<dd>J M Piron</dd>
<dt><span lang="en" xml:lang="en">no club affiliations</span>
:</dt>
<dd>T Disneur, H Weber</dd>
</dl> </dl>
<h3>Mini Expedition du 25 Juin au 5 Juillet (Inter
<h3>Mini Expedition du 25 Juin au 5 Juillet (Inter individuels)</h3> individuels)</h3>
<p>La possibilit&eacute; d'une jonction avec l'Empag&eacute;dure
<p>La possibilit<69> d'une jonction avec l'Empag<61>dure avait am<61>ne les sp<73>l<EFBFBD>os avait am&egrave;ne les sp&eacute;l&eacute;os Belges &agrave;
Belges <20> organiser une mini-exp<EFBFBD> inter-individuels. organiser une mini-exp&eacute; inter-individuels.</p>
<p>La jonction ne fut pas r&eacute;alis&eacute;e, une couche de
<p>La jonction ne fut pas r<>alis<69>e, une couche de Dolomie semble <EFBFBD>liminer tout Dolomie semble &eacute;liminer tout espoir. Cette exp&eacute; a
espoir. Cette exp<78> a permis <20> quelques sp<73>l<EFBFBD>os Belges de d<>couvrir une cavit<69> permis &agrave; quelques sp&eacute;l&eacute;os Belges de
Autrichienne. d&eacute;couvrir une cavit&eacute; Autrichienne.</p>
<p>Le Bilan : -500m de premi&egrave;re, plusieurs r&eacute;seaux
<p>Le Bilan : -500m de premi<6D>re, plusieurs r<>seaux termin<69>s et de nouvelles termin&eacute;s et de nouvelles hypoth&egrave;ses de suite de
hypoth<EFBFBD>ses de suite de gouffre. gouffre.</p>
<p>-150m dans le r&eacute;seau amont du Josef : arr&ecirc;t sur
<p>-150m dans le r<>seau amont du Josef : arr<72>t sur tremis et fissure (m<>andre tremis et fissure (m&eacute;andre &eacute;troit et haut).</p>
<EFBFBD>troit et haut). <p>Diff&eacute;rente r&eacute;seaux revus: Enigmatique, KGB,
Gruy&egrave;re et Schnaps.</p>
<p>Diff<EFBFBD>rente r<>seaux revus: Enigmatique, KGB, Gruy<75>re et Schnaps. <p>Visite et exploration du r&eacute;seau Belgica.</p>
<p>Apr&egrave;s le Bivouac : un P10, on prend &agrave; gauche une
<p>Visite et exploration du r<>seau Belgica. galerie de petite dimension, on laisse 3 puits sur le cot&eacute;
et on descend un P8, P13 arriv&eacute;e sur des &eacute;troitures
<p>Apr<EFBFBD>s le Bivouac : un P10, on prend <20> gauche une galerie de petite dimension, faciles &agrave; gauche. Ensuite R5 et P42. Arr&ecirc;t sur boyau
on laisse 3 puits sur le cot<6F> et on descend un P8, P13 arriv<69>e sur des de sable &agrave; -410m.</p>
<EFBFBD>troitures faciles <20> gauche. Ensuite R5 et P42. Arr<72>t sur boyau de sable <20> <p>Par dessus le P13 : une petite galerie permet par quelques
-410m. ressauts dans un r&eacute;seau fossile: P25 et deux puits de 10m;
tr&egrave;s &eacute;troit et plusieurs chemin&eacute;es.</p>
<p>Par dessus le P13 : une petite galerie permet par quelques ressauts dans un
r<EFBFBD>seau fossile: P25 et deux puits de 10m; tr<74>s <20>troit et plusieurs chemin<69>es.
<h4>Participants :</h4> <h4>Participants :</h4>
<dl> <dl>
<dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym>:<dd>J P Braun, F Dechany, E Degrave <dt><acronym>GSAB</acronym>:</dt>
(organisateur), J C Hans <dd>J P Braun, F Dechany, E Degrave (organisateur), J C Hans</dd>
<dt><acronym>GIPS</acronym>:<dd>F Spinoy <dt><acronym>GIPS</acronym>:</dt>
<dt><acronym>SCUCL</acronym>:<dd>Y Dubois <dd>F Spinoy</dd>
<dt><acronym>SCUCL</acronym>:</dt>
<dd>Y Dubois</dd>
</dl> </dl>
<p>Notons la visite de six membres du CARSS, qui avaient
<p>Notons la visite de six membres du CARSS, qui avaient oubli<6C>s leur trousse <20> oubli&eacute;s leur trousse &agrave; spits dans la
spits dans la vall<6C>e. vall&eacute;e.</p>
<p>Jean Pierre Braun</p>
<p>Jean Pierre Braun
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<h1 lang="fr">Groupe Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</h1>
<p>The <acronym lang="fr">GSAB</acronym> was (I believe, and if anyone knows <h1 lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Groupe Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</h1>
different then I'd love to hear from them) an umbrella organisation for club
cavers in Belgium visiting deep and serious caving areas in the 1970's. It
would appear to have evolved from a group <span lang="fr">"Les Gours"</span>,
part of the <span lang="fr">Club d'Archaeologie, de Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie
et d'Escalade de Huy-Andenne (<acronym>CASE-HA</acronym>)</span>, though this
is conjecture based on the fact that the journal of
<span lang="fr">Les Gours</span> had the same name,
"<span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span>", as the later journal of
<acronym lang="fr">GSAB</acronym>, and from an odd reference to
'<span lang="fr"><acronym>GSAB</acronym> "Les Gours"</span>' in a later
journal.
<p>Members of these groups, and associated club cavers, visited the north of <p>The <acronym lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GSAB</acronym> was (I
the western massif of the <span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> every summer believe, and if anyone knows different then I'd love to hear from
(sometimes apparently on more than one trip) from 1972 to 1978. At least one them) an umbrella organisation for club cavers in Belgium visiting
of these trips was an international expedition, and others seem also to have deep and serious caving areas in the 1970's. It would appear to
worked with various French groups. Much of the work was apparently reported have evolved from a group <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">"Les
in various club journals, but there are also a series of good reports in both Gours"</span>, part of the <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Club
of the journals <span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span>. These are now quite d'Archaeologie, de Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie et d'Escalade de
hard to obtain (since the group no longer exists), but we found that the Huy-Andenne (<acronym>CASE-HA</acronym>)</span>, though this is
librarian of the <span lang="fr">F&eacute;deration Belgique de conjecture based on the fact that the journal of <span lang="fr"
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie</span> was one of the world's most helpful people, xml:lang="fr">Les Gours</span> had the same name, "<span lang="fr"
and he photocopied the relevant articles from the later <acronym xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span>", as the later journal of
lang="fr">GSAB</acronym> publications for us for free, for which go many <acronym lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GSAB</acronym>, and from an odd
thanks. reference to '<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr"><acronym>GSAB</acronym>
"Les Gours"</span>' in a later journal.</p>
<p>Included in these pages are English translations (by Andy Waddington and <p>Members of these groups, and associated club cavers, visited the
Jill Gates) of articles from <span lang="fr"><acronym>GSAB</acronym> north of the western massif of the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
Sp&eacute;alp</span> 1, 2 and 3. If you can read French, I reccommend getting "de">Totes Gebirge</span> every summer (sometimes apparently on
hold of copies of the original journals, as the diagrams are quite helpful to more than one trip) from 1972 to 1978. At least one of these trips
understanding some of the explanations ! was an international expedition, and others seem also to have
worked with various French groups. Much of the work was apparently
reported in various club journals, but there are also a series of
good reports in both of the journals <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
"fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span>. These are now quite hard to obtain
(since the group no longer exists), but we found that the librarian
of the <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">F&eacute;deration Belgique de
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie</span> was one of the world's most
helpful people, and he photocopied the relevant articles from the
later <acronym lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GSAB</acronym> publications
for us for free, for which go many thanks.</p>
<dl lang="fr"> <p>Included in these pages are English translations (by Andy
<dt>73.2295<dd> Waddington and Jill Gates) of articles from <span lang="fr"
<cite>(<acronym>CASE HA</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1972) pp 3-21, <span xml:lang="fr"><acronym>GSAB</acronym> Sp&eacute;alp</span> 1, 2 and
lang="en">surveys</span></cite>, <b>Exp&eacute;dition 3. If you can read French, I reccommend getting hold of copies of
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologique &agrave; Autriche (Gouffre des Aieux)</b>, Jean the original journals, as the diagrams are quite helpful to
Claude Hans et Pierre Gobbels understanding some of the explanations!</p>
<dt>74.1210<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>CASE HA</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 4 (1973) pp 1-25, <span
lang="en">surveys</span></cite>, <b>Exp&eacute;dition 1973 &agrave; l'<span
lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> (-612m)</b>, Etienne Degrave et al
<dt>78.2012<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 1 (Juin 1977) pp 33-49</cite>,
<b><span lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span> : Description des principaux gouffres
de la zone ouest du massif</b>, Jean Claude Hans &amp; Etienne Degrave<br>
<a href="fr/782012.htm" lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a> /
<a href="en/782012.htm" lang="en"><span lang="en">English Translation</span></a>
<dt>78.2008<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) pp 14-19, <span
lang="en">figures, surveys</span></cite>, <b>Gouffre Ovni</b>, Georges
Feller<br>
<a href="fr/782008.htm" lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a> /
<a href="en/782008.htm" lang="en"><span lang="en">English Translation</span></a>
<dt>78.2003<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) p64, <span
lang="en">survey</span></cite>, <b lang="de">Trunkemboldschacht</b>, Jean Pierre
Braun<br>
<a href="782003.htm" lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a> / (the English
translation is essentially identical to the kataster
<a href="../../noinfo/1626/117.htm">cave description</a>)
<dt>78.2013<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) pp 66-67, <span
lang="en">survey</span></cite>, <b lang="de">Feuertalsystem</b>, Jean Claude
Hans<br><a href="782013.htm" lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a> / (the English
translation is essentially identical to the kataster
<a href="../../noinfo/1626/120.htm">cave description</a>)
<dt>79.1855<dd>
<cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 3 (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45, <span
lang="en">survey</span></cite>, <b><span lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> 77/78</b>,
Jean Pierre Braun<br>
<a href="fr/791855.htm" lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a> /
<a href="en/791855.htm" lang="en"><span lang="en">English Translation</span></a>
<dl lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">
<dt>73.2295</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>CASE HA</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1972) pp
3-21, <span lang="en" xml:lang="en">surveys</span></cite>,
<b>Exp&eacute;dition Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologique &agrave; Autriche
(Gouffre des Aieux)</b>, Jean Claude Hans et Pierre Gobbels</dd>
<dt>74.1210</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>CASE HA</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 4 (1973) pp
1-25, <span lang="en" xml:lang="en">surveys</span></cite>,
<b>Exp&eacute;dition 1973 &agrave; l'<span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Ahnenschacht</span> (-612m)</b>, Etienne Degrave et al</dd>
<dt>78.2012</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 1 (Juin 1977) pp
33-49</cite>, <b><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Totes Gebirge</span>
: Description des principaux gouffres de la zone ouest du
massif</b>, Jean Claude Hans &amp; Etienne Degrave<br />
<a href="fr/782012.htm" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">en
Fran&ccedil;ais</a> / <a href="en/782012.htm" lang="en" xml:lang=
"en"><span lang="en" xml:lang="en">English
Translation</span></a></dd>
<dt>78.2008</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) pp
14-19, <span lang="en" xml:lang="en">figures,
surveys</span></cite>, <b>Gouffre Ovni</b>, Georges Feller<br />
<a href="fr/782008.htm" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">en
Fran&ccedil;ais</a> / <a href="en/782008.htm" lang="en" xml:lang=
"en"><span lang="en" xml:lang="en">English
Translation</span></a></dd>
<dt>78.2003</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) p64,
<span lang="en" xml:lang="en">survey</span></cite>, <b lang="de"
xml:lang="de">Trunkemboldschacht</b>, Jean Pierre Braun<br />
<a href="782003.htm" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a>
/ (the English translation is essentially identical to the kataster
<a href="../../noinfo/1626/117.htm">cave description</a>)</dd>
<dt>78.2013</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 2 (1978) pp
66-67, <span lang="en" xml:lang="en">survey</span></cite>, <b lang=
"de" xml:lang="de">Feuertalsystem</b>, Jean Claude Hans<br />
<a href="782013.htm" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">en Fran&ccedil;ais</a>
/ (the English translation is essentially identical to the kataster
<a href="../../noinfo/1626/120.htm">cave description</a>)</dd>
<dt>79.1855</dt>
<dd><cite>(<acronym>GSAB</acronym>) Sp&eacute;alp 3 (Oct. 1978) pp
44-45, <span lang="en" xml:lang="en">survey</span></cite>,
<b><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Ahnenschacht</span> 77/78</b>,
Jean Pierre Braun<br />
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Baume les Dames</h2></center> Clerval - Baume les Dames</h1>
<p>From the earliest days of CUCC's involvement in Austria, we
<p>From the earliest days of CUCC's involvement in Austria, we heard reports heard reports of deep caves being explored by French Group(s). We
of deep caves being explored by French Group(s). We were aware that several were aware that several caves explored by the Belgian <a href=
caves explored by the Belgian <a href="../gsab/index.htm" lang="fr">Groupe "../gsab/index.htm" lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Groupe
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</a> had been found by French, including Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</a> had been found by French,
<span lang="fr">Denis Motte</span>, whose name seemed to crop up in various including <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Denis Motte</span>, whose
places. name seemed to crop up in various places.</p>
<p>This group worked in the 1626 area (<b lang="de" xml:lang=
<p>This group worked in the 1626 area (<b lang="de">Feuertal</b>) in 1974 "de">Feuertal</b>) in 1974 (<b lang="de" xml:lang=
(<b lang="de">Ahnenschacht</b> with <span lang="fr">GS Doubs &amp; SC "de">Ahnenschacht</b> with <span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">GS Doubs
Vesoul</span>), and later (1975,77) worked in the <b lang="de">Tauplitz</b> &amp; SC Vesoul</span>), and later (1975,77) worked in the <b lang=
area to our east with finds including the impressive "de" xml:lang="de">Tauplitz</b> area to our east with finds
<b lang="de">Nordwandschacht</b>, containing a huge chamber (320x80x60m). including the impressive <b lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Nordwandschacht</b>, containing a huge chamber
<p>During the eighties, they visited the (320x80x60m).</p>
<b lang="de">Elmh&ouml;hlensystem</b> (touristed by CUCC in <p>During the eighties, they visited the <b lang="de" xml:lang=
<a href="../../years/1976/report.htm#elmh">1976</a> and "de">Elmh&ouml;hlensystem</b> (touristed by CUCC in <a href=
<a href="../../years/1977/report.htm#elmh">1977</a>). The results of this "../../years/1976/report.htm#elmh">1976</a> and <a href=
work are described in <b lang="fr">Spelunca</b> number 26 (April/June "../../years/1977/report.htm#elmh">1977</a>). The results of this
1987) pp 10-11 (CTS 88.1407). work are described in <b lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Spelunca</b>
number 26 (April/June 1987) pp 10-11 (CTS 88.1407).</p>
<p>Towards the end of this period, the group also had some members exploring <p>Towards the end of this period, the group also had some members
on the <b lang="de">Vorderer Schwarzmooskogel</b>, who found exploring on the <b lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vorderer
<b lang="de">Larchenschacht</b> Schwarzmooskogel</b>, who found <b lang="de" xml:lang=
(<a href="../../noinfo/smkridge/88.htm">1623/88</a>). "de">Larchenschacht</b> (<a href=
The whole expedition worked in this area (from 1987?). Various important "../../noinfo/smkridge/88.htm">1623/88</a>). The whole expedition
connections were made, of which we have very little information to date. We worked in this area (from 1987?). Various important connections
do know that they also explored various entrances further north towards were made, of which we have very little information to date. We do
<b lang="de">Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel</b>, including one of the entrances to know that they also explored various entrances further north
<b lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</b> towards <b lang="de" xml:lang="de">Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel</b>,
(<a href="../../smkridge/161/top.htm">1623/161</a>), into the area CUCC now including one of the entrances to <b lang="de" xml:lang=
knows as "France". However, they abandoned this particular cave on the "de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</b> (<a href=
assumption that it would connect into CUCC's caves. From 1991, the group "../../smkridge/161/top.htm">1623/161</a>), into the area CUCC now
returned to the <span lang="de">Elmh&ouml;hlensystem</span>. knows as "France". However, they abandoned this particular cave on
the assumption that it would connect into CUCC's caves. From 1991,
<p>The group publish a journal "<b lang="fr">Beaunes et Empoues</b>" the group returned to the <span lang="de" xml:lang=
(issue number 10 was published in 1993), from which the above summary is "de">Elmh&ouml;hlensystem</span>.</p>
derived. <p>The group publish a journal "<b lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Beaunes
et Empoues</b>" (issue number 10 was published in 1993), from which
<p>Contact was finally made with <span lang="fr">Denis Motte</span> at the the above summary is derived.</p>
International Speleological Congress in the Swiss Jura in 1997, so CUCC are <p>Contact was finally made with <span lang="fr" xml:lang=
looking forward to an era of cooperation in connecting the "fr">Denis Motte</span> at the International Speleological Congress
<b lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</b> in the Swiss Jura in 1997, so CUCC are looking forward to an era of
(<a href="../../smkridge/161/top.htm">1623/161</a>) cooperation in connecting the <b lang="de" xml:lang=
area caves through GSCB's finds to the "de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</b> (<a href=
<b lang="de">Stellerwegh&ouml;hlensystem</b> "../../smkridge/161/top.htm">1623/161</a>) area caves through
(<a href="../../smkridge/41.htm">1623/41</a>). GSCB's finds to the <b lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Stellerwegh&ouml;hlensystem</b> (<a href=
"../../smkridge/41.htm">1623/41</a>).</p>
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<h2>Groups known to have worked in <span lang="de-at">Totes Gebirge</span> caves</h2> <h1>Groups known to have worked in <span lang="de-at" xml:lang=
"de-at">Totes Gebirge</span> caves</h1>
<p>As well as local cavers (who were very few in number in the early years), <p>As well as local cavers (who were very few in number in the
many cavers from outside Austria have worked in the <span lang="de-at">Totes early years), many cavers from outside Austria have worked in the
Gebirge</span>. Those who have been to the western massif (1623 and 1626) are <span lang="de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Totes Gebirge</span>. Those
listed here. Following the links will lead to a description of the group and who have been to the western massif (1623 and 1626) are listed
a list of all the publications about the area (with their reference number here. Following the links will lead to a description of the group
from Current Titles in Speleology). This is under research, and is very far and a list of all the publications about the area (with their
from complete. However, some articles are here in the archive, in the reference number from Current Titles in Speleology). This is
original language, and a very few are here in english translation. Where under research, and is very far from complete. However, some
these exist, you can follow links to them. articles are here in the archive, in the original language, and a
very few are here in english translation. Where these exist, you
can follow links to them.</p>
<p>A few groups are still active and have their own web pages - you can <p>A few groups are still active and have their own web pages -
follow links to these from here, or there is a page specifically for you can follow links to these from here, or there is a page
<a href="../links.htm">links to web sites</a> which includes other relevant specifically for <a href="../links.htm">links to web sites</a>
organisations too. which includes other relevant organisations too.</p>
<h4>Local Austrian Groups</h4> <h4>Local Austrian Groups</h4>
<ul> <ul>
<li><span lang="de-at">H&ouml;hlenforschervereinigung Altaussee</span> <li><span lang="de-at" xml:lang=
(up to 1949 ?) "de-at">H&ouml;hlenforschervereinigung Altaussee</span> (up to
1949?)</li>
<li><span lang="de-at">Sektion Ausseerland (des Landesvereines f&uuml;r <li><span lang="de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Sektion Ausseerland
H&ouml;hlenkunde in Steiermark)</span> (up to early 80's ?) (des Landesvereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in
Steiermark)</span> (up to early 80's?)</li>
<li><span lang="de-at">Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in OberSteier <li><span lang="de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Vereines f&uuml;r
(VfHO)</span><br> H&ouml;hlenkunde in OberSteier (VfHO)</span>:
This is the group who are responsible for the kataster in our area, and This is the group who are responsible for the kataster in our
which several CUCC members have also joined. There are two articles area, and which several CUCC members have also joined. There
about diving in Li&auml;gerh&ouml;hle (1623/1) in are two articles about diving in Li&auml;gerh&ouml;hle (1623/1)
<a href="obsteier/dive1.htm" lang="de-at">1985</a> and in <a href="obsteier/dive1.htm" lang="de-at" xml:lang=
<a href="obsteier/dive2.htm" lang="de-at">1988</a>, on the site. Also from "de-at">1985</a> and <a href="obsteier/dive2.htm" lang="de-at"
their journal is the German translation of CUCC's xml:lang="de-at">1988</a>, on the site. Also from their journal
<a href="../years/1996/bcra-d.htm" lang="de">1996 report</a>. is the German translation of CUCC's <a href=
"../years/1996/bcra-d.htm" lang="de" xml:lang="de">1996
report</a>.</li>
<li><span lang="de-at">Landesverein f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in <li><span lang="de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Landesverein f&uuml;r
Ober&ouml;sterreich (LVHO)</span> (with a website in H&ouml;hlenkunde in Ober&ouml;sterreich (LVHO)</span>:
<a href="http://alpha.aec.at/cave/cave.html" lang="en">English</a> or This is the group responsible for exploration of the <b lang=
<a href="http://alpha.aec.at/cave/" lang="de-at">German</a>).<br> "de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</b>, and for the
This is the group responsible for exploration of the kataster in nearby area 1626.</li>
<b lang="de-at">Raucherkarh&ouml;hle</b>, and for the kataster in nearby area </ul>
1626.
</ul> <h4>Other Austrian Groups and individuals</h4>
<h4>Other Austrian Groups and individuals</h4> <ul>
<li><span lang="de-at" xml:lang="de-at">Edith
Bednarik</span></li>
</ul>
<ul> <h4>British Groups</h4>
<li><span lang="de-at">Edith Bednarik</span>
</ul>
<h4>British Groups</h4> <ul>
<li><a href="bec/index.htm">BEC</a>: Bristol Exploration Club
[1967, 1968, 1969] (<a href=
"http://web.ukonline.co.uk/john/">Home page</a>)</li>
<ul> <li><a href="../../index.htm">CUCC</a>: Cambridge University
<li><a href="bec/index.htm">BEC</a>: Bristol Exploration Club [1967, 1968, 1969] (<a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/john/">Home page</a>) Caving Club [1976-97]</li>
<li><a href="../../index.htm">CUCC</a>: Cambridge University Caving Club [1976-97]
<li><a href="ubss/index.htm">UBSS</a>: University of Bristol Speleological Society [with CUCC 1981, 1982, independently in 1989, 1990 ?]
<li><a href="luss/index.htm">LUSS</a>: Lancaster University Speleological Society [1987-89] (<a href="http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/rec-and-travel/luss/">Home page</a>)
<li><a href="ulsa/index.htm">ULSA</a>: University of Leeds Speleological Association [Tauplitz, 1985 (or 86?)] (<a href="http://www.leeds.ac.uk/union/socs/speleological/home.htm">Home page</a>)
</ul>
<h4>Belgian Groups</h4> <li><a href="ubss/index.htm">UBSS</a>: University of Bristol
Speleological Society [with CUCC 1981, 1982, independently in
1989, 1990 ?]</li>
<ul> <li><a href="luss/index.htm">LUSS</a>: Lancaster University
<li><span lang="fr-be">CASE HA (Club d'Archaeologie, de Speleological Society [1987-89] (<a href=
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie et d'Escalade de Huy Andenne)</span> [1972,1973] "http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/rec-and-travel/luss/">Home
page</a>)</li>
<li><span lang="fr-be"><a href="gsab/index.htm" lang="en">GSAB</a>: Groupe <li><a href="ulsa/index.htm">ULSA</a>: University of Leeds
Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</span> Speleological Association [Tauplitz, 1985 (or 86?)] (<a href=
[1972,1973,1974,1975,1976,1977,1978]<br> "http://www.leeds.ac.uk/union/socs/speleological/home.htm">Home
(people of other club affiliations out with GSAB in 1977, CASEO, SSSPA, page</a>)</li>
GSREDAN, ES GEODE, SC Calcaires, similarly GIPS, SCUCL in 1978) </ul>
<li>CASEO 1975 <h4>Belgian Groups</h4>
</ul>
<h4>French Groups</h4> <ul>
<li><span lang="fr-be" xml:lang="fr-be">CASE HA (Club
d'Archaeologie, de Sp&eacute;l&eacute;ologie et d'Escalade de
Huy Andenne)</span> [1972,1973]</li>
<ul> <li><span lang="fr-be" xml:lang="fr-be"><a href=
<li><span lang="fr">G.S.Clerval</span>, "gsab/index.htm" lang="en" xml:lang="en">GSAB</a>: Groupe
now <span lang="fr">G.S.Clerval - Baume les Dames</span> Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Alpin Belge</span>
(<a href="gscb/index.htm">GSCB</a>) 1974, 75, 77, 83-87, 88-90?, 91-... [1972,1973,1974,1975,1976,1977,1978]<br />
<li><span lang="fr">S.C. Vesoul</span> \ (people of other club affiliations out with GSAB in 1977,
<li><span lang="fr">G.S. Doubs</span> } 1974 CASEO, SSSPA, GSREDAN, ES GEODE, SC Calcaires, similarly GIPS,
<li><span lang="fr">S.S. Daules</span> / SCUCL in 1978)</li>
<li><span lang="fr">A.C. Toulon</span> \
<li><span lang="fr">S.C. Toulon</span> } 1976, 1977?
<li><span lang="fr">Lou Darboun</span> /
<li><span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o Ragaie</span> /
</ul>
<h4>not quite sure, French or Belgian ?</h4> <li>CASEO 1975</li>
</ul>
<ul> <h4>French Groups</h4>
<li><span lang="fr">CARSS 1975, 1978 (Centre d'Activit&eacute; et
R&eacute;cherches Subaquatique et Souterrainne)</span>
</ul>
<h4>German Groups and individuals</h4> <ul>
<li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">G.S.Clerval</span>, now
<span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">G.S.Clerval - Baume les
Dames</span> (<a href="gscb/index.htm">GSCB</a>) 1974, 75, 77,
83-87, 88-90?, 91-...</li>
<ul> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">S.C. Vesoul</span>,</li>
<li><span lang="de">Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in M&uuml;nchen
e.V.</span> 1983 and others. The site contains one article from this group
which is CTS ref.
<a lang="de" href="muenchen/de/841642.htm">84.1642</a>, also now included
in <a href="muenchen/en/841642.htm">English translation.</a>
<li>A group from <span lang="de">N&uuml;rnberg</span> who worked with the <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">G.S. Doubs</span>,</li>
above, but also worked independently - they have some survey data we need !
<li><span lang="de"><a href="http://arge.itvd.uni-stuttgart.de/"
lang="de">Arbeitsgemeinschaft H&ouml;hle und Karst Grabenstetten
e.V.</a></span>
<li><span lang="de">Vred Vischer</span> 1980 (worked/s with above)
</ul>
<h4>Polish</h4> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">S.S. Daules</span> (all in 1974)</li>
<ul> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">A.C. Toulon</span>,</li>
<li><span lang="pl">Speleo Krakow</span><br>
An article in a Polish journal has misled the authors of the English version
of the world deep caves atlas into thinking that Poles worked with CUCC. In
fact, the article was commissioned by <span lang="pl">Krzysztof
Kleszynski</span> who had done a lot of work in the Salzburg area. It was
written by Andy Waddington, covering 1976-79 (and particularly the
exploration of <span lang="de-at">Eislufth&ouml;hle</span>), and concerns
only work done by CUCC. It appeared in the Polish journal purely as part of
an effort to give some context to other reports about Austria. Andy never got
a copy (but then he can't read the Polish translation anyway). The
<a href="../years/1979/811412.htm">english original</a> is published in these
pages for the first time !
</ul> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">S.C. Toulon</span>,</li>
<h4>Italian, Hungarian, Slovak ...</h4> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Lou Darboun</span>,</li>
<ul> <li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">Sp&eacute;l&eacute;o
<li>We think there may have been some... Ragaie</span> (all in 1976, 77?)</li>
</ul> </ul>
<h4>not quite sure, French or Belgian ?</h4>
<ul>
<li><span lang="fr" xml:lang="fr">CARSS 1975, 1978 (Centre
d'Activit&eacute; et R&eacute;cherches Subaquatique et
Souterrainne)</span></li>
</ul>
<h4>German Groups and individuals</h4>
<ul>
<li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vereines f&uuml;r
H&ouml;hlenkunde in M&uuml;nchen e.V.</span> 1983 and others.
The site contains one article from this group which is CTS ref.
<a lang="de" href="muenchen/de/841642.htm" xml:lang=
"de">84.1642</a>, also now included in <a href=
"muenchen/en/841642.htm">English translation.</a></li>
<li>A group from <span lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">N&uuml;rnberg</span> who worked with the above, but also
worked independently - they have some survey data we need
!</li>
<li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a href=
"http://arge.itvd.uni-stuttgart.de/" lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">Arbeitsgemeinschaft H&ouml;hle und Karst Grabenstetten
e.V.</a></span></li>
<li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vred Vischer</span> 1980
(worked/s with above)</li>
</ul>
<h4>Polish</h4>
<ul>
<li><span lang="pl" xml:lang="pl">Speleo Krakow</span><br />
An article in a Polish journal has misled the authors of the
English version of the world deep caves atlas into thinking
that Poles worked with CUCC. In fact, the article was
commissioned by <span lang="pl" xml:lang="pl">Krzysztof
Kleszynski</span> who had done a lot of work in the Salzburg
area. It was written by Andy Waddington, covering 1976-79 (and
particularly the exploration of <span lang="de-at" xml:lang=
"de-at">Eislufth&ouml;hle</span>), and concerns only work done
by CUCC. It appeared in the Polish journal purely as part of an
effort to give some context to other reports about Austria.
Andy never got a copy (but then he can't read the Polish
translation anyway). The <a href=
"../years/1979/811412.htm">english original</a> is published in
these pages for the first time !</li>
</ul>
<h4>Italian, Hungarian, Slovak ...</h4>
<ul>
<li>We think there may have been some...</li>
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<h1>Lancaster University Speleological Society</h1> <h1>Lancaster University Speleological Society</h1>
<p>LUSS, and its graduate offspring, the Society of Lancaster
<p>LUSS, and its graduate offspring, the Society of Lancaster University University Graduate Speleologists (SLUGS), is based on campus in
Graduate Speleologists (SLUGS), is based on campus in Lancaster, within very Lancaster, within very easy reach of the Yorkshire Dales. Hence it
easy reach of the Yorkshire Dales. Hence it has become one of the more has become one of the more active clubs over the years, with young
active clubs over the years, with young cavers trained on weekends in cavers trained on weekends in Yorkshire travelling further afield
Yorkshire travelling further afield each summer. Best known for major each summer. Best known for major explorations in the Picos de
explorations in the Picos de Europa of Northern Spain, it has a reputation Europa of Northern Spain, it has a reputation for high quality (if
for high quality (if infrequent) publication. infrequent) publication.</p>
<p>LUSS have their <a href=
<p>LUSS have their "http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/index.html">own web pages</a>,
<a href="http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/index.html"> or may be contacted via their <a href=
own web pages</a>, or may be contacted via their "http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/contact.html">contact page</a>
<a href="http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/contact.html">contact page</a> or maybe directly through email. Their web page gives:<br /></p>
or maybe directly through email. Their web page gives:<br> <p style="text-align: center"><img src=
<center> "../../../icons/email.png" alt="" />&nbsp;&nbsp;LUSS@lancaster.ac.uk <i>(but I
<img src="../../../icons/email.png">&nbsp;&nbsp;LUSS@lancaster.ac.uk get a bounce from this address)</i></p>
but I get a bounce from this address <p>Lancaster University Speleological Society worked in an area out
</center> to the north of CUCC's home turf, between Wildensee, Hohes
Augst-Eck and Gr. Scheibling Kogel, on three expeditions in 1987,
<p>Lancaster University Speleological Society worked in an area out to the 1988 and 1989. Some of the caves they explored lie within the 1623
north of CUCC's home turf, between Wildensee, Hohes Augst-Eck and Gr. area, although the boundaries between areas are not very
Scheibling Kogel, on three expeditions in 1987, 1988 and 1989. Some of the well-defined hereabouts.</p>
caves they explored lie within the 1623 area, although the boundaries <p>The descriptions included in our pages are taken (with
between areas are not very well-defined hereabouts. permission, for which our thanks) directly from their reports,
published in the UK:</p>
<p>The descriptions included in our pages are taken (with permission, for <p><cite><b>CTS 88.1467</b> <a href=
which our thanks) directly from their reports, published in the UK: "http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/Exploration/Austria/are87.html">Austria
Reconnaissance Expedition 1987</a>, Lancaster University
<p><cite><b>CTS 88.1467</b> <a href="http://www.ednet.lancs.ac.uk/luss/Exploration/Austria/are87.html">Austria Reconnaissance Expedition 1987</a>, Speleological Society</cite><br />
Lancaster University Speleological Society</cite><br> <cite><b>CTS 89.1866</b> Dead Mountains Expedition 1988,
L.U.S.S.</cite> 24pp illus.<br /></p>
<cite><b>CTS 89.1866</b> Dead Mountains Expedition 1988, L.U.S.S.</cite> 24pp illus.<br> <p>I only have an incomplete pre-publication report from 1989 (the
full report was never published), which means that there is no
<p>I only have an incomplete pre-publication report from 1989 (the full description of the 1989 extensions to LA11 in these pages.</p>
report was never published), which means that there is no description of the <p>Copies of these reports (if still in print) are available
1989 extensions to LA11 in these pages. from:</p>
<p>Lancaster University Speleological Society,<br />
<p>Copies of these reports (if still in print) are available from: c/o Neil Turton,<br />
34, Williamson Rd.<br />
<p>Lancaster University Speleological Society,<br> Lancaster.<br />
c/o Neil Turton,<br> United Kingdom</p>
34, Williamson Rd.<br> <p>(note that the Bailrigg campus Pigeon Holes address, given in
Lancaster.<br> many LUSS publications and in old versions of this page, is now
United Kingdom unlikely to reach the Society).</p>
<p>As they <i>may</i> still be in print, these reports are not in
<p>(note that the Bailrigg campus Pigeon Holes address, given in many our web pages at present, though the descriptions of caves in 1623,
LUSS publications and in old versions of this page, is now unlikely to reach and the more significant ones in 1626 are. <b>Stoppress</b>: from
the Society). 1999, some of this material is appearing on the LUSS website (see
link above). Expect the C&amp;C 38 article to appear shortly, but
<p>As they <i>may</i> still be in print, these reports are not in our web currently the link in LUSS's own index page is broken, so I don't
pages at present, though the descriptions of caves in 1623, and the more know the URL.</p>
significant ones in 1626 are. <b>Stoppress</b>: from 1999, some of this <p>Other reports of the LUSS work appear in:<br />
material is appearing on the LUSS website (see link above). Expect the <cite><b>CTS 87.1514</b> LUSS Austria Reconnaissance
C&amp;C 38 article to appear shortly, but currently the link in LUSS's own Expedition<br />
index page is broken, so I don't know the URL. BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 38 (Winter 1987), pp 27-30</cite><br />
<cite><b>CTS 88.1468</b> LUSS The Dead Mountains Expedition<br />
<p>Other reports of the LUSS work appear in:<br> BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 42 (Winter 1988), pp 20-21</cite><br />
<cite><b>CTS 89.1844</b> The Dead Mountains Expedition 1988, P
<cite><b>CTS 87.1514</b> LUSS Austria Reconnaissance Expedition<br> BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 38 (Winter 1987), pp 27-30</cite><br> Ibberson<br />
<cite><b>CTS 88.1468</b> LUSS The Dead Mountains Expedition<br> BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 42 (Winter 1988), pp 20-21</cite><br> Expeditions Yearbook 1988, pp 91-92</cite> (obtainable from the
<cite><b>CTS 89.1844</b> The Dead Mountains Expedition 1988, P Ibberson<br> Expeditions Yearbook 1988, pp 91-92</cite> Expeditions Advisory Centre, London.)<br />
(obtainable from the Expeditions Advisory Centre, London.)<br> <cite><b>CTS 90.1298</b> The Dead Mountains Expedition 1989, P
<cite><b>CTS 90.1298</b> The Dead Mountains Expedition 1989, P Ibberson</cite><br> BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 47 (Spring 1990), pp 25-28 Ibberson</cite><br />
BCRA Caves &amp; Caving 47 (Spring 1990), pp 25-28</p>
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<h2>TAUCHEINSATZ IN DER LIAGER-H&Ouml;HLE BEI ALTAUSSEE (1623/1)</h2> <h1>TAUCHEINSATZ IN DER LIAGER-H&Ouml;HLE BEI ALTAUSSEE
(1623/1)</h1>
Sepp Steinberger <p style="text-align: right"><b>Sepp Steinberger</b></p>
<p><i>(Mitteilungen des Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in
<p><i>(Mitteilungen des Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in Obersteier 4(2) 1985 pp 26-27)</i> Obersteier 4(2) 1985 pp 26-27)</i></p>
<p>Nachdem die Redaktion &uuml;ber ein Jahr vergeblich versucht
<p>Nachdem die Redaktion &uuml;ber ein Jahr vergeblich versucht hat, von den hat, von den Hauptakteuren (Tauchern) einen Bericht &uuml;ber
Hauptakteuren (Tauchern) einen Bericht &uuml;ber dieses sehr aufwendige dieses sehr aufwendige Unternehmen zu erhalten, erlaube ich mir, da
Unternehmen zu erhalten, erlaube ich mir, da Dokumentation doch eine der Dokumentation doch eine der Hauptaufgaben unserer
Hauptaufgaben unserer H&ouml;hlenkundlichen T&auml;tigkeit ist, ein paar H&ouml;hlenkundlichen T&auml;tigkeit ist, ein paar Zeilen &uuml;ber
Zeilen &uuml;ber die Ereignisse zu verlieren. die Ereignisse zu verlieren.</p>
<p>Am 5 August 1984 wurde von Mitgliedern unseres Vereines eine
<p>Am 5 August 1984 wurde von Mitgliedern unseres Vereines eine Tauchaktion Tauchaktion in der Liager-H&ouml;hle bei Altaussee unternommen.
in der Liager-H&ouml;hle bei Altaussee unternommen. Ziel des Einsatzes war Ziel des Einsatzes war es, in Quelltopf, dessen Tiefe auf 16 Meter
es, in Quelltopf, dessen Tiefe auf 16 Meter gelotet worden war, zu tauchen, gelotet worden war, zu tauchen, und somit &uuml;ber seine Tiefe,
und somit &uuml;ber seine Tiefe, Gestalt und etwaige Fortsetzungen Kenntnis Gestalt und etwaige Fortsetzungen Kenntnis zu erhalten. Es ist in
zu erhalten. Es ist in einer "zeitweilig aktiven Wasserh&ouml;hle", wie sie einer "zeitweilig aktiven Wasserh&ouml;hle", wie sie die
die Liager-H&ouml;hle darstellt, sehr wichtig, die &auml;u&szlig;eren Liager-H&ouml;hle darstellt, sehr wichtig, die &auml;u&szlig;eren
Umst&auml;nde - sprich Wetter und Schneelage - zu beachten. Schon zu Umst&auml;nde - sprich Wetter und Schneelage - zu beachten. Schon
Pfingsten 1984 war diese Aktion geplant gewesen, wurde aber abgesagt, weil zu Pfingsten 1984 war diese Aktion geplant gewesen, wurde aber
man bef&uuml;rchten mu&szlig;te, da&szlig; durch die Schneeschmelze eine abgesagt, weil man bef&uuml;rchten mu&szlig;te, da&szlig; durch die
&uuml;berraschende Aktivit&auml;t eintreten k&ouml;nnte. So einigten wir uns Schneeschmelze eine &uuml;berraschende Aktivit&auml;t eintreten
auf diesen Termin und begannen auch gleich mit umfangreichen k&ouml;nnte. So einigten wir uns auf diesen Termin und begannen
Vorbereitungsarbeiten. auch gleich mit umfangreichen Vorbereitungsarbeiten.</p>
<p>Um nicht die Taucher allein in die H&ouml;hle schicken zu
<p>Um nicht die Taucher allein in die H&ouml;hle schicken zu m&uuml;ssen, m&uuml;ssen, sollte ser Wasserspiegel im "Ostsiphon" gesenkt
sollte ser Wasserspiegel im "Ostsiphon" gesenkt werden, soda&szlig; auch die werden, soda&szlig; auch die Begleitmannschaft und das Reporterteam
Begleitmannschaft und das Reporterteam (ORF-Fernsehen und Bayerischer (ORF-Fernsehen und Bayerischer Rundfunk) samt allen empfindlichen
Rundfunk) samt allen empfindlichen Ger&auml;ten an Ort und Stelle gelangen Ger&auml;ten an Ort und Stelle gelangen konnten. Dies geschah mit
konnten. Dies geschah mit einem 20 Meter langen Kunnststoffschlauch (50 mm einem 20 Meter langen Kunnststoffschlauch (50 mm Dm.), den uns der
Dm.), den uns der Salzbergbau Altaussee zur Verf&uuml;gung gestellt hatte. Salzbergbau Altaussee zur Verf&uuml;gung gestellt hatte. Mit diesem
Mit diesem sollte das Wasser des Siphones abgeherbert werden, was erst nach sollte das Wasser des Siphones abgeherbert werden, was erst nach
mehreren kr&auml;fteraubenden Versuchen gelang. Die Schwierigkeit dabei war, mehreren kr&auml;fteraubenden Versuchen gelang. Die Schwierigkeit
den sperrigen Schlauch mit Wasser zu f&uuml;llen und so den Abhebevorgang zu dabei war, den sperrigen Schlauch mit Wasser zu f&uuml;llen und so
starten. Au&szlig;erdem ist die H&ouml;hendifferenz von der Ansaugstelle zum den Abhebevorgang zu starten. Au&szlig;erdem ist die
Abflu&szlig; eher gering. Am 4 August fand dann die Einsatzbesprechung mit H&ouml;hendifferenz von der Ansaugstelle zum Abflu&szlig; eher
allen Teilnehmern statt, bei welcher alle Einzelheiten besprochen und gering. Am 4 August fand dann die Einsatzbesprechung mit allen
diverse Schwierigkeiten er&ouml;rtert wurden. Teilnehmern statt, bei welcher alle Einzelheiten besprochen und
diverse Schwierigkeiten er&ouml;rtert wurden.</p>
<p>Am Sonntag, 5 August 1985, ist es schlie&szlig;lich so weit: Um 9 Uhr <p>Am Sonntag, 5 August 1985, ist es schlie&szlig;lich so weit: Um
vormittag treffen alle Teilnehmer in Altaussee ein. Die gesamte 9 Uhr vormittag treffen alle Teilnehmer in Altaussee ein. Die
Ausr&uuml;stung wird auf das Schnellboot der Wasserrettung Altaussee gesamte Ausr&uuml;stung wird auf das Schnellboot der Wasserrettung
verladen und in einigen Fahrten zusammen mit der Mannschaft in die Seewiese Altaussee verladen und in einigen Fahrten zusammen mit der
bef&ouml;rdert. Von Seeufer bis zur H&ouml;hle bet&auml;tigen sich alle Mannschaft in die Seewiese bef&ouml;rdert. Von Seeufer bis zur
Teilnehmer als "Sherpas" und tragen in mehreren G&auml;ngen die einige H&ouml;hle bet&auml;tigen sich alle Teilnehmer als "Sherpas" und
hundert Kilo schwere Ausr&uuml;stung zum H&ouml;hleneingang: Scheinwerfer, tragen in mehreren G&auml;ngen die einige hundert Kilo schwere
Akkus, Video-Aufzeichnungsger&auml;t, Pre&szlig;luftflaschen, Helme, Ausr&uuml;stung zum H&ouml;hleneingang: Scheinwerfer, Akkus,
Tauchanz&uuml;ge, Schlauchtboot, Sicherungsseile, Drahtseilleitern und Video-Aufzeichnungsger&auml;t, Pre&szlig;luftflaschen, Helme,
vieles mehr. R.Mascha, R.Seebacher und H.Segl bilden den Vortrupp und sehen Tauchanz&uuml;ge, Schlauchtboot, Sicherungsseile, Drahtseilleitern
nach, wie weit der Wasserspiegel im Ostsiphon gesunken ist (der und vieles mehr. R.Mascha, R.Seebacher und H.Segl bilden den
Abhebeversuch war erst am Vortag gegl&uuml;ckt), und ob der Siphon auch Vortrupp und sehen nach, wie weit der Wasserspiegel im Ostsiphon
f&uuml;r "Nichttaucher" zu befahren ist. Nun beginnt der Transport der gesunken ist (der Abhebeversuch war erst am Vortag gegl&uuml;ckt),
Ausr&uuml;stung. Die Mitglieder der Mannschaft bilden immer wieder eine und ob der Siphon auch f&uuml;r "Nichttaucher" zu befahren ist. Nun
Kette und schaffen in schwei&szlig;treibender Arbeit die Ausr&uuml;stung beginnt der Transport der Ausr&uuml;stung. Die Mitglieder der
durch die teilweise engen H&ouml;hlenteile des "Ostganges". Der letzte Mannschaft bilden immer wieder eine Kette und schaffen in
H&ouml;hlenteil vor dem Quelltopf ("Schragschacht") erweist sich wegen des schwei&szlig;treibender Arbeit die Ausr&uuml;stung durch die
glitschigen Lehmes und seiner Steilheit als sehr schwierig zu befahren und teilweise engen H&ouml;hlenteile des "Ostganges". Der letzte
mu&szlig; an einigen Stellen mit Seilsicherungen versehen werden. Endlich am H&ouml;hlenteil vor dem Quelltopf ("Schragschacht") erweist sich
eigentlichen Ziel angelangt, wird der etwa 15 Meter hohe Senkrechtabstieg wegen des glitschigen Lehmes und seiner Steilheit als sehr
zum See f&uuml;r die Taucher gesichert und ein Schlauchboot zu Wasser schwierig zu befahren und mu&szlig; an einigen Stellen mit
gelassen. Das boot ist f&uuml;r den Techniker gedacht, der mit dem Taucher Seilsicherungen versehen werden. Endlich am eigentlichen Ziel
&uuml;ber ein Kabel verbunden ist und sogar mit ihm sprechen kann. Ein angelangt, wird der etwa 15 Meter hohe Senkrechtabstieg zum See
Taucher schlie&szlig;lich (Manfred Pichler) wagt sich in das eisige Wasser f&uuml;r die Taucher gesichert und ein Schlauchboot zu Wasser
(nur wenige Grad &uuml;ber Null) des Quelltopfes und entschwindet tief gelassen. Das boot ist f&uuml;r den Techniker gedacht, der mit dem
unterhalb der Betrachter dem Licht der Scheinwerfer. Reporter und Taucher &uuml;ber ein Kabel verbunden ist und sogar mit ihm
Begleitmannschaft starren gebannt in den bereits nebligen H&ouml;hlenraum, sprechen kann. Ein Taucher schlie&szlig;lich (Manfred Pichler) wagt
in dem der fast kreisrunde H&ouml;hlensee - Durchmesser etwa 20 Meter - sich in das eisige Wasser (nur wenige Grad &uuml;ber Null) des
liegt. Urspr&uuml;nglich h&auml;tten die Gespr&auml;che des Tauchers mit dem Quelltopfes und entschwindet tief unterhalb der Betrachter dem
Techniker mittels Verst&auml;rker und Lautsprecher f&uuml;r alle h&ouml;rbar Licht der Scheinwerfer. Reporter und Begleitmannschaft starren
gemacht werden sollen, doch irgend ein technisches Gebrechen hat das gebannt in den bereits nebligen H&ouml;hlenraum, in dem der fast
verhindert. Der Quelltopf wird bis auf einen Tiefe von 20 Meter erforscht. kreisrunde H&ouml;hlensee - Durchmesser etwa 20 Meter - liegt.
Auch einige Fortsetzungen bestehen, doch wegen der starken Urspr&uuml;nglich h&auml;tten die Gespr&auml;che des Tauchers mit
Wassertr&uuml;bung ist es nicht m&ouml;glich, weiter als ein paar Meter in dem Techniker mittels Verst&auml;rker und Lautsprecher f&uuml;r
sie vorzudringen. alle h&ouml;rbar gemacht werden sollen, doch irgend ein technisches
Gebrechen hat das verhindert. Der Quelltopf wird bis auf einen
<p>H.Segl und R.Seebacher n&uuml;tzen die Zeit w&auml;hrend des Tauchganges, Tiefe von 20 Meter erforscht. Auch einige Fortsetzungen bestehen,
um am gegen&uuml;berliegenden Ufer des Quelltopfes Fortsetzungen zu erkunden doch wegen der starken Wassertr&uuml;bung ist es nicht
und gelangen nach &uuml;berwindung einer ca. 10 Meter hohen Wandstufe erneut m&ouml;glich, weiter als ein paar Meter in sie vorzudringen.</p>
in einen H&ouml;hlenraum, der mit Wasser erf&uuml;llt ist und mit dem <p>H.Segl und R.Seebacher n&uuml;tzen die Zeit w&auml;hrend des
gro&szlig;en See in Verbindung steht. Eine weitere Fortsetzung kann nicht Tauchganges, um am gegen&uuml;berliegenden Ufer des Quelltopfes
erkundet werden. Fortsetzungen zu erkunden und gelangen nach &uuml;berwindung einer
ca. 10 Meter hohen Wandstufe erneut in einen H&ouml;hlenraum, der
<p>Nach Ende des Tauchganges klettert der Taucher, zitternd vor K&auml;lte, mit Wasser erf&uuml;llt ist und mit dem gro&szlig;en See in
mit letzter Kraft &uuml;ber die Drahtseilleiter aus dem Dom zur&uuml;ck. Verbindung steht. Eine weitere Fortsetzung kann nicht erkundet
Nachdem einige (&uuml;bliche) Reporterfragen beantwortet sind, tritt die werden.</p>
Mannschaft, die stundenlang mit nassen F&uuml;&szlig;en ausgeharrt hatte, <p>Nach Ende des Tauchganges klettert der Taucher, zitternd vor
den R&uuml;ckweg an und erreicht (der Siphon hatte sich nicht wieder K&auml;lte, mit letzter Kraft &uuml;ber die Drahtseilleiter aus dem
aufgef&uuml;llt) neun Stunden nach dem Einstieg in die H&ouml;hle das Dom zur&uuml;ck. Nachdem einige (&uuml;bliche) Reporterfragen
Tageslicht. beantwortet sind, tritt die Mannschaft, die stundenlang mit nassen
F&uuml;&szlig;en ausgeharrt hatte, den R&uuml;ckweg an und erreicht
<p>Minuten sp&auml;ter entl&auml;dt sich &uuml;ber der Seewiese ein heftiges (der Siphon hatte sich nicht wieder aufgef&uuml;llt) neun Stunden
Gewitter mit wolkenbruchartigen Regenf&auml;llen, und alles, was bis zu nach dem Einstieg in die H&ouml;hle das Tageslicht.</p>
diesem Zeitpunkt noch einigerma&szlig;en trocken ist, wird vom <p>Minuten sp&auml;ter entl&auml;dt sich &uuml;ber der Seewiese ein
str&ouml;menden Regen durchn&auml;&szlig;t. Dank der Altausseer heftiges Gewitter mit wolkenbruchartigen Regenf&auml;llen, und
Wasserrettung funktioniert der R&uuml;cktransport klaglos, und alles, was bis zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch einigerma&szlig;en trocken
anschlie&szlig;end treffen sich die Mitglieder unseres Vereines zu einem ist, wird vom str&ouml;menden Regen durchn&auml;&szlig;t. Dank der
wohlverdienten Abendessen in einem Altauseer Gasthof. Altausseer Wasserrettung funktioniert der R&uuml;cktransport
klaglos, und anschlie&szlig;end treffen sich die Mitglieder unseres
<p>Einige Tage sp&auml;ter wird in der Fernsehsendung "&ouml;sterreich Vereines zu einem wohlverdienten Abendessen in einem Altauseer
heute" ein l&auml;cherlicher Drei-Minuten-Bericht (!) &uuml;ber diese Gasthof.</p>
spektakul&auml;re Neun-Stunden-Expedition ausgestrahlt. &uuml;ber Reportagen <p>Einige Tage sp&auml;ter wird in der Fernsehsendung
anderer Art ist der Redaktion der "Mitteilungen" bisher nichts bekannt. "&ouml;sterreich heute" ein l&auml;cherlicher Drei-Minuten-Bericht
(!) &uuml;ber diese spektakul&auml;re Neun-Stunden-Expedition
<p>Liste der beteiligten Personen: ausgestrahlt. &uuml;ber Reportagen anderer Art ist der Redaktion
der "Mitteilungen" bisher nichts bekannt.</p>
<p>Liste der beteiligten Personen:</p>
<ul> <ul>
<li> Verein f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in Obersteier <li>Verein f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in Obersteier
<ul><li>Alois Deubelli (Taucher) <ul>
<li>G&uuml;nter Pichler (Taucher) <li>Alois Deubelli (Taucher)</li>
<li>Manfred Pichler (Taucher) <li>G&uuml;nter Pichler (Taucher)</li>
<li>Karl Gaisberger <li>Manfred Pichler (Taucher)</li>
<li>Gottfried Gewe&szlig;ler <li>Karl Gaisberger</li>
<li>Rudolf Mascha <li>Gottfried Gewe&szlig;ler</li>
<li>Robert Seebacher <li>Rudolf Mascha</li>
<li>Hans Segl <li>Robert Seebacher</li>
<li>Sepp Steinberger <li>Hans Segl</li>
<li>Sepp Steinberger</li>
</ul> </ul>
<li>ORF-Fernsehen (3 Mann) </li>
<li>Bayrischer Rundfunk (1 Mann) <li>ORF-Fernsehen (3 Mann)</li>
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<h2>BERICHT &Uuml;BER TAUCHG&Auml;NGE IN DER LIAGER-H&Ouml;HLE (1623/1 a-b) IM SEPTEMBER 1988</h2> <h1>BERICHT &Uuml;BER TAUCHG&Auml;NGE IN DER LIAGER-H&Ouml;HLE
(1623/1 a-b) IM SEPTEMBER 1988</h1>
<p>Lieber Leser ! <p>Lieber Leser !</p>
<p>Die Liager H&ouml;hle bei Altaussee mit ihren Siphonen und dem
<p>Die Liager H&ouml;hle bei Altaussee mit ihren Siphonen und dem Quelltopf Quelltopf hat schon in den sechziger Jahren H&ouml;hlentaucher in
hat schon in den sechziger Jahren H&ouml;hlentaucher in ihren Bann gezogen. ihren Bann gezogen. Ber&uuml;hmte Namen wie Hasenmayr und Matz
Ber&uuml;hmte Namen wie Hasenmayr und Matz scheinen in der Forschungschronik scheinen in der Forschungschronik auf. Auch Mitglieder des Vereines
auf. Auch Mitglieder des Vereines f&uuml; H&ouml;hlenkunde in Obersteier (M. f&uuml; H&ouml;hlenkunde in Obersteier (M. und G. Pichler, A.
und G. Pichler, A. Deubelli) unternahmen 1984 einen neunst&uuml;ndigen Deubelli) unternahmen 1984 einen neunst&uuml;ndigen
Tauchvorsto&szlig;, der jedoch trotz eines geqaltigen Aufgebotes an Material Tauchvorsto&szlig;, der jedoch trotz eines geqaltigen Aufgebotes an
und - vor allem - Presseleuten au&szlig;er einem dreimin&uuml;tigen ORF Material und - vor allem - Presseleuten au&szlig;er einem
Fernseh-Spot(t) keine Ergebnisse brachte (Siehe Mitteilungen 1985, 2. Folge). dreimin&uuml;tigen ORF Fernseh-Spot(t) keine Ergebnisse brachte
(Siehe Mitteilungen 1985, 2. Folge).</p>
<p>Als sich im Fr&uuml;hjar 1988 eine H&ouml;hlentauchergruppe aus Heidelberg <p>Als sich im Fr&uuml;hjar 1988 eine H&ouml;hlentauchergruppe aus
bei unserem Katasterwart meldete, waren wir angesichts der tragischen Heidelberg bei unserem Katasterwart meldete, waren wir angesichts
Ereignisse im Pie&szlig;ling Ursprung &uuml;ber deren Vorhaben nicht der tragischen Ereignisse im Pie&szlig;ling Ursprung &uuml;ber
Hocherfreut, obgleich es sicher jeden von uns interessiert, ob und wie es deren Vorhaben nicht Hocherfreut, obgleich es sicher jeden von uns
hinter dem See &quot;weitergeht&quot;. interessiert, ob und wie es hinter dem See "weitergeht".</p>
<p>Die Sorgfalt der Berichterstattung war schlie&szlig;lich
<p>Die Sorgfalt der Berichterstattung war schlie&szlig;lich ausschlaggebend ausschlaggebend daf&uuml;r, da&szlig; der Bericht ungek&uuml;rzt
daf&uuml;r, da&szlig; der Bericht ungek&uuml;rzt abgedrukt wurde. abgedrukt wurde.</p>
<p style="text-align: right"><i>Die Redaktion.</i></p>
<p align=right>Die Redaktion. <p>Vorbereitungen:</p>
<p>Als die Wettervorhersage, nach einer Woche Regen, f&uuml;r die
<p>Vorbereitungen: kommeden Tage relativ gut ausfiel, entschlossen wir uns, die
Befahrung der Liager H&ouml;hle in Angriff zu nehmen.</p>
<p>Als die Wettervorhersage, nach einer Woche Regen, f&uuml;r die kommeden <p>Von der letzten Parkm&ouml;glichkeit in Altaussee aus
Tage relativ gut ausfiel, entschlossen wir uns, die Befahrung der Liager transportierten wir under Gep&auml;ck 8.9.1988 auf alten
H&ouml;hle in Angriff zu nehmen. Kinderwagen den Uferweg des Altausseer Sees entlang zur Seewiese.
Eine Tour dauerte etwa 1.5 Stunden. Nach 6 Stunden hatten wir das
<p>Von der letzten Parkm&ouml;glichkeit in Altaussee aus transportierten wir f&uuml;r die Befahrung n&ouml;tige Material, sowie Verpflegung und
under Gep&auml;ck 8.9.1988 auf alten Kinderwagen den Uferweg des Altausseer und Schlafs&auml;cke etc. in diw N&auml;he der H&ouml;hle
Sees entlang zur Seewiese. Eine Tour dauerte etwa 1.5 Stunden. Nach 6 Stunden transportiert.</p>
hatten wir das f&uuml;r die Befahrung n&ouml;tige Material, sowie Verpflegung <p>Nach dem Abendbrot schleppten Achim, Bettina und ich noch eben
und und Schlafs&auml;cke etc. in diw N&auml;he der H&ouml;hle transportiert. vier 41 und zwei 71 Pressluftflaschen die Steilwand zum Liagern
hinauf.</p>
<p>Nach dem Abendbrot schleppten Achim, Bettina und ich noch eben vier 41 und <p>Die 41 Pressluftflaschen sollten in den n&auml;chsten Tagen dazu
zwei 71 Pressluftflaschen die Steilwand zum Liagern hinauf. dienen, den Siphon im westlichen Wassergang zu durchtauchen.</p>
<p>Sie blieben immer auf der jeweiligen Seite direkt am Siphon
<p>Die 41 Pressluftflaschen sollten in den n&auml;chsten Tagen dazu dienen, liegen.</p>
den Siphon im westlichen Wassergang zu durchtauchen. <p>Die 71 Flaschen sollten am See zu einem Doppelger&auml;t
zusammengebaut werden, um damit den See unter Wasser zu
<p>Sie blieben immer auf der jeweiligen Seite direkt am Siphon liegen. erforschen.</p>
<p lang="en" xml:lang="en">[that's the first page...]</p>
<p>Die 71 Flaschen sollten am See zu einem Doppelger&auml;t zusammengebaut <p lang="en" xml:lang="en">A follow up article by Achim Bayer,
werden, um damit den See unter Wasser zu erforschen. Michael Meyberg and Bettina Rinne in <i lang="de" xml:lang=
"de">(Mitteilungen des Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in
<p lang=en>[that's the first page...] Obersteier 7(2) 1988 pp 39-45)</i> is waiting to be typed in :-)
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<p lang=en>A follow up article by Achim Bayer, Michael Meyberg and Bettina <p lang="en" xml:lang="en">&nbsp;</p>
Rinne in <i lang=de>(Mitteilungen des Vereines f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in
Obersteier 7(2) 1988 pp 39-45)</i> is waiting to be typed in :-)
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<center><h2>University of Bristol Speleological Society</h2></center> <h1>University of Bristol Speleological Society</h1>
The UBSS is the oldest of the existing British University caving clubs.
Most famous for its work in the caves of County Clare, and also much
involved in Mendip caving, the UBSS also venture further afield.
<p>Steve Perry (once dubbed "the fittest man on Mendip") was a CUCC member
with UBSS connections, who was on the 1977 expedition. Other UBSS members
first joined CUCC's Austria expedition as guests in 1980, and UBSS was a
"guest club" on the CUCC expedition in both 1981 and 1982, after which their
involvement declined. The work done by UBSS members was written up in the
prestigious Proceedings of UBSS.
<p>Sadly we have been asked to remove these pieces
of documentation, which are relevant to CUCCs exploration of the area. We are currently
trying to contact the orginal authors of the articles to ask for their
permission to publish the articles.</p>
<p>The UBSS is the oldest of the existing British University caving
clubs. Most famous for its work in the caves of County Clare, and
also much involved in Mendip caving, the UBSS also venture further
afield.</p>
<p>Steve Perry (once dubbed "the fittest man on Mendip") was a CUCC
member with UBSS connections, who was on the 1977 expedition. Other
UBSS members first joined CUCC's Austria expedition as guests in
1980, and UBSS was a "guest club" on the CUCC expedition in both
1981 and 1982, after which their involvement declined. The work
done by UBSS members was written up in the prestigious Proceedings
of UBSS.</p>
<p>Sadly we have been asked to remove these pieces of
documentation, which are relevant to CUCCs exploration of the area.
We are currently trying to contact the orginal authors of the
articles to ask for their permission to publish the articles.</p>
<dl> <dl>
<dt><!-- a href="811427.htm" -->81.1427<dd> <dt><!-- a href="811427.htm" -->81.1427</dt>
<cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological Society 16(1) <dd><cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological
(1981) pp 5-10</cite>, <b>An introduction to Austrian karst</b>, Steve Perry Society 16(1) (1981) pp 5-10</cite>, <b>An introduction to Austrian
karst</b>, Steve Perry</dd>
<dt><!-- a href="811309.htm" -->81.1309<dd> <dt><!-- a href="811309.htm" -->81.1309</dt>
<cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological Society 16(1) <dd><cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological
(1981) pp 11-20</cite>, <b>A description of some caves...</b>, Julian Society 16(1) (1981) pp 11-20</cite>, <b>A description of some
Griffiths caves...</b>, Julian Griffiths</dd>
<dt><!-- a href="831621.htm" -->83.1621</dt>
<dt><!-- a href="831621.htm" -->83.1621<dd> <dd><cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological
<cite>Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological Society 16(2) Society 16(2) (Nov 1982) pp 77-83</cite>, <b>The
(Nov 1982) pp 77-83</cite>, <b>The Stellerwegh&ouml;hle system, Totes Stellerwegh&ouml;hle system, Totes Gebirge, Austria</b>, Rich
Gebirge, Austria</b>, Rich Barker et al Barker et al</dd>
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<p>Unknown to CUCC (and very much to our embarassment in 1989), a
<p>Unknown to CUCC (and very much to our embarassment in 1989), a few UBSS few UBSS members staged independent expeditions to an area north of
members staged independent expeditions to an area north of the plateau. We the plateau. We believe there were two trips (in 1989 and 1990),
believe there were two trips (in 1989 and 1990), though information is still though information is still hard to come by, as the whole thing was
hard to come by, as the whole thing was clandestine. The local Austrian clandestine. The local Austrian cavers found it hard to believe
cavers found it hard to believe that CUCC had no knowledge of the trips that CUCC had no knowledge of the trips whilst CUCC found it hard
whilst CUCC found it hard to believe that no-one at the BCRA Conference would to believe that no-one at the BCRA Conference would admit to being
admit to being with the "English group camped on Augst-Eck" found by the with the "English group camped on Augst-Eck" found by the
helicopter during Becka's 1989 rescue. This upset an already delicate helicopter during Becka's 1989 rescue. This upset an already
political situation, with the risk that all English groups might be banned delicate political situation, with the risk that all English groups
from the area permanently. It would appear that the officers and committee might be banned from the area permanently. It would appear that the
of the UBSS itself were unaware that their members were visiting the area officers and committee of the UBSS itself were unaware that their
without permission and had not bothered to research the political situation members were visiting the area without permission and had not
before giving grant money for the trip. bothered to research the political situation before giving grant
money for the trip.</p>
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<center><h2>University of Leeds Speleological Association</h2></center> <h1>University of Leeds Speleological Association</h1>
<p>ULSA is one of the bigger and more active of the UK's University
<p>ULSA is one of the bigger and more active of the UK's University caving caving organisations, and incorporates the (strictly undergraduate)
organisations, and incorporates the (strictly undergraduate) Leeds University Leeds University Union Speleological Society. Most famous for the
Union Speleological Society. Most famous for the large amount of new large amount of new exploration arising out of an ambitious program
exploration arising out of an ambitious program to resurvey many of to resurvey many of Yorkshire's significant caves in the 1960's,
Yorkshire's significant caves in the 1960's, the club has continued to find the club has continued to find and survey new cave at home and
and survey new cave at home and abroad. The club also has a deserved abroad. The club also has a deserved reputation for high quality
reputation for high quality publication. publication.</p>
<p>Encouraged by contact with Gunther Graf, ULSA visited the
<p>Encouraged by contact with Gunther Graf, ULSA visited the Tauplitz area Tauplitz area (east of CUCC's area) in the early eighties. A great
(east of CUCC's area) in the early eighties. A great deal of shaft bashing deal of shaft bashing was done, but none of the small
was done, but none of the small sub-horizontal draughting entrances which are sub-horizontal draughting entrances which are the most promising on
the most promising on Loser were investigated. The expedition high camp was Loser were investigated. The expedition high camp was flattened by
flattened by a snow storm, and a degree of demoralisation set in. The trip a snow storm, and a degree of demoralisation set in. The trip was
was written up in <b>ULSA Review 16</b> (CTS ref. 86.1980), but no return written up in <b>ULSA Review 16</b> (CTS ref. 86.1980), but no
trip ever took place. return trip ever took place.</p>
<p>ULSA has its <a href=
<p>ULSA has its "http://www.leeds.ac.uk/union/socs/speleological/home.htm">own
<a href="http://www.leeds.ac.uk/union/socs/speleological/home.htm">own website</a>, upon which old publications are being put as and when
website</a>, upon which old publications are being put as and when they they go out of print.</p>
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