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Anyway I parked the bike at the "No Cycling" notice at the bottom of the track up (where going left would go to Stummern Alm) and walked up 3km (+400m) to Oberwasseralm.
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Anyway I parked the bike at the "No Cycling" notice at the bottom of the track up (where going left would go to Stummern Alm) and walked up 3km (+400m) to Oberwasseralm.
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<p>It is mostrously dramatic: not only are you right underneath the Trisselwand but the Loser massif (Vor.SMK) Weisse Wand is huge and very steep.
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<p>It is mostrously dramatic: not only are you right underneath the Trisselwand but the Loser massif (Vor.SMK) Weisse Wand is huge and very steep.
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<img width=50% src="/expofiles/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/valley-below-115.jpg"
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alt="/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/valley-below-115.jpg"
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Steep grassy valley below the Stoger Weg
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Steep grassy valley below the Stoger Weg
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<img width=40% src="/expofiles/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/valley-below-115.jpg"
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Context of steep grassy valley
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<p>I did spot, I think, the steep grassy "valley" with an entrance at the top end which Chas and Planc found in 1983 and which I revisited in 2017.<a href="/logbookentry/1983-07-27/1983-07-27d">1983-07-27</a> When they said:
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<p>I did spot, I think, the steep grassy "valley" with an entrance at the top end which Chas and Planc found in 1983 and which I revisited in 2017.<a href="/logbookentry/1983-07-27/1983-07-27d">1983-07-27</a> When they said:
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<p>"So we looked at a big phreatic entrance further east (up the valley) and ~50m higher. This was looked at in 1982, but a bit of proddling released lots of boulders + we were able to follow up a narrowing bedding plane at ~60°, for 10m until it got too loose/small. Very difficult descent on scree to the end of the Altausseer See + then the Schniderwirt for Weizen Bier."
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<p>"So we looked at a big phreatic entrance further east (up the valley) and ~50m higher. This was looked at in 1982, but a bit of proddling released lots of boulders + we were able to follow up a narrowing bedding plane at ~60°, for 10m until it got too loose/small. Very difficult descent on scree to the end of the Altausseer See + then the Schniderwirt for Weizen Bier."
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<p>GPS track is uploaded using <a href="/gpxupload/">expo.survex.com/gpxupload/</a>.
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<p>GPS track is uploaded using <a href="/gpxupload/">expo.survex.com/gpxupload/</a>.
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The photos of the same place from the Loser side in 2018:
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The photos of the same place from the Loser side in 2018:
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<img width=40% src="/photos/2018/PhilipSargent/lookfutile2-20180729/IMG_20180729_165003092.jpg">
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<img width=40% src="/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/green-valley-context.jpg">
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