<p>An attempt has been made to classify these chronologically, so that the
numbering of newly found QMs can start from 1 each year, and no QM ever
changes its number. Prefix X0000-41- indicates deduced pre-CUCC QM. Leads
found by CUCC are prefixed C<year>-41- under the system introduced
in 1999.<br>
Key:<ul>
<li><b>A</b> very good, go for it.
<li><b>B</b> needs effort, or less promising
<li><b>C</b> hard to reach (bolting etc.), or very unpromising
<li><b>?</b> quality unknown - poorly documented
<li><b>!</b> may not exist, or may be multiple - guess from sketches
<li><b>X</b> has now been pushed - may be ref. into description.
<li><b>*</b> allegedly pushed, but needs another look or survey
</ul>
Probably seriously incomplete, especially for 1983-85.
<p><aname="X0000-41-00"></a><ahref="41.htm#X0000-41-00">X0000-41-00 X</a> Entrance 41a/b [leads to CUCC and German routes & all the rest :-]
<br><aname="X0000-115-01"></a><ahref="115.htm#X0000-115-01">X0000-115-01 X</a> Entrance 115 [led to choke dug by CUCC]
<br><aname="X0000-115-02"></a><ahref="115.htm#X0000-115-02">X0000-115-02 X</a> Stone-filled crawl inside 115 [led to rest of cave]
<br><aname="X0000-41-03"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-03">X0000-41-03 *</a> Traverse pitch in 'German Route' [allegedly blind after 28m]
<br><aname="X0000-41-04"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-04">X0000-41-04 X</a> Shaft at end in 'German Route' [led allegedly to -220m]
<br><aname="X0000-41-05"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-05">X0000-41-05 C</a> Up left in first ramp crossed on 'German Route'
<br><aname="X0000-41-06"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-06">X0000-41-06 B</a> Down right in first ramp crossed on 'German Route'
<br><aname="X0000-41-07"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-07">X0000-41-07 C</a> Up left in second ramp crossed on 'German Route'
<br><aname="X0000-41-08"></a><ahref="off41.htm#X0000-41-08">X0000-41-08 B</a> Down right in second ramp crossed on 'German Route'
<br><aname="C1980-41-00"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-00">C1980-41-00 X</a> Left turn inside 41a entrance [led to <ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-00">CUCC route</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-01"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-01">C1980-41-01 C</a> First ramp traversed over in 41a CUCC route [probably to German Route 00-41-05]
<br><aname="C1980-41-02"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-02">C1980-41-02 C</a> Uphill ramp where main way turns right along dip (must be near surface)
<br><aname="C1980-41-03"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-03">C1980-41-03 C</a> Second ramp traversed in CUCC route [probably to German Route 00-41-07]
<br><aname="C1980-41-04"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-04">C1980-41-04 C</a> Small uphill passage on left at corner after second traverse
<br><aname="C1980-41-05"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-05">C1980-41-05 B</a> Third ramp traversed in CUCC route
<br><aname="C1980-41-06"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-06">C1980-41-06 C</a> Small uphill passage to left by big boulders after third traverse
<br><aname="C1980-41-07"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-07">C1980-41-07 B</a> Fourth ramp traversed in CUCC route
<br><aname="C1980-41-08"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-08">C1980-41-08 B</a> Down passage to right after fourth ramp (probably to same place)
<br><aname="C1980-41-09"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-09">C1980-41-09 C</a> Left (uphill) leads to T-jn. T-left
<br><aname="C1980-41-11"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-11">C1980-41-11 B</a> Fifth ramp down in CUCC route
<br><aname="C1980-41-12"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-12">C1980-41-12 C</a> Uphill to left after fifth ramp
<br><aname="C1980-41-13"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-13">C1980-41-13 X</a> Last ramp down (serious traverse) [led to base of pitch, same as <ahref="#C1980-41-14">C1980-41-14</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-14"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-14">C1980-41-14 X</a> Pitch after last ramp [led to <ahref="#C1980-41-16">C1980-41-16/17</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-15"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-15">C1980-41-15 B</a> Continuation of high-level over pitch
<br><aname="C1980-41-16"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-16">C1980-41-16 X</a> Ramp down to chamber from pitch [led to way on to Big Pitch]
<br><aname="C1980-41-17"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-17">C1980-41-17 X</a> Ramp up under pitch [led to <ahref="#C1982-142-34">C1982-142-34</a> at <ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-34">NE end 142 Big Chamber</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-18"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-18">C1980-41-18 C</a> Joint plane down dip from chamber below 1st pitch
<br><aname="C1980-41-19"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-19">C1980-41-19 C</a> Climb down through squeeze from chamber below 1st pitch to vadose canyon
<br><aname="C1980-41-20"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-20">C1980-41-20 B</a> First ramp up NE then NW from chamber
<br><aname="C1980-41-21"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-21">C1980-41-21 X</a> Second (narrow) ramp up from chamber [led to way on to Big Pitch]
<br><aname="C1980-41-22"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-22">C1980-41-22 B</a> Right turn reached from down narrow ramp right from <ahref="#C1980-41-21">C1980-41-21</a>
<br><aname="C1980-41-23"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-23">C1980-41-23 A</a> First ramp down at corner below descent ramp from <ahref="#C1980-41-21">C1980-41-21</a> (est. 25m drop)
<br><aname="C1980-41-24"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-24">C1980-41-24 A</a> Second ramp down (nasty traverse, est. 25m drop)
<br><aname="C1980-41-25"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-25">C1980-41-25 X</a> Downhill in first huge ramp [routes to Big Pitch]
<br><aname="C1980-41-26"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-26">C1980-41-26 B</a> Uphill in first huge ramp (two ways to same place)
<br><aname="C1980-41-27"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-27">C1980-41-27 X</a> Right turn off uphill in first huge ramp [leads to second huge ramp]
<br><aname="C1980-41-28"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-28">C1980-41-28 ?</a> Downhill in 2nd huge ramp - description fails around here but more in 82
<br><aname="C1980-41-29"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-29">C1980-41-29 B</a> Uphill in small inlet (above second huge ramp ?)
<br><aname="C1980-41-30"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-30">C1980-41-30 X</a> Right via small pitch from descent of <ahref="#C1980-41-25">C1980-41-25</a> [original way to <ahref="41.htm#bigpitch">Big Pitch</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-31"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-31">C1980-41-31 X</a> Left via two small pitches from descent of <ahref="#C1980-41-25">C1980-41-25</a> [new way to Big Pitch]
<br><aname="C1980-41-32"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-32">C1980-41-32 X</a> Hole in wall near bottom of Big Pitch [reached from <ahref="../../noinfo/smkridge/88.htm">1623/88</a>]
<br><aname="C1980-41-33"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-33">C1980-41-33 X</a> Chimney in right wall 20m downstream from Big Pitch [way in from 144]
<br><aname="C1980-41-34"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-34">C1980-41-34 A</a> Climb to passage on left 10m downstream from Big Pitch
<br><aname="C1980-41-35"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-35">C1980-41-35 X</a> Downstream in sharp passage [main way on]
<br><aname="C1980-41-36"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-36">C1980-41-36 B</a> Large (2.5m dia + trench?) passage on right (no draught, never entered)
<br><aname="C1980-41-37"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-37">C1980-41-37 C</a> Possible roof traverse(s) above tight pitch(es)
<br><aname="C1980-41-38"></a><ahref="41.htm#C1980-41-38">C1980-41-38 X</a> Continuation of Big Rift [main way on 1981]
<br><aname="C1980-41-39"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-39">C1980-41-39 ?</a> Area at start of Stalaglufthöhle - missed route on to Big Pitch ?
<br><aname="C1980-41-40"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-40">C1980-41-40 C</a> Continuation of canyon after sloping traverse, end series, German route
<br><aname="C1980-41-41"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-41">C1980-41-41 C</a> Continuation of 'dried out sump' crawl beyond window right
<br><aname="C1980-41-42"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-42">C1980-41-42 C</a> Hole down traversed after climb down from window
<br><aname="C1980-41-43"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-43">C1980-41-43 C</a> Tiny exit from chamber below 20m alternative pitch after initial p6m, p18m
<br><aname="C1980-41-44"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1980-41-44">C1980-41-44 C</a> Tight drop at limit of German route 'Stalaglufthöhle'
<br><aname="C1980-115-45"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1980-115-45">C1980-115-45 C</a> Hopeless choke at bottom of initial passage in 115 (not the one dug)
<br><aname="C1980-115-47"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1980-115-47">C1980-115-47 X</a> Climb up on right in 115 initial passage [main way on, found at end]
<br><aname="C1980-115-48"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1980-115-48">C1980-41-48 X</a> Right at phreatic tube broken into by Der Igel [chokes, shat in]
<br><aname="C1980-115-49"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1980-115-49">C1980-41-49 X</a> Obvious traverse off 10m down blind Rift Pitch (Baker's Bungle) [way on]
<br><aname="C1981-115-00"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-00">C1981-115-00 X</a> Inlet above Ramp at Baker's Bungle [up cascades, then ends]
<br><aname="C1981-115-01"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1981-115-01">C1981-115-01 B</a> Obvious (but lethally unsafe) black space ahead below Ramp
<br><aname="C1981-115-02"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-02">C1981-115-02 B</a> Narrow rift below rebelay at the Col (crapped into)
<br><aname="C1981-115-03"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-03">C1981-115-03 ?</a> Possible way on beyond pitch into Big Chamber (but probably not)
<br><aname="C1981-115-04"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-04">C1981-115-04 ?</a> Aven at end of 60m upstream from Big Chamber, shown on survey. Description, however, says inlet sump.
<br><aname="C1981-115-05"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-05">C1981-115-05 C</a> Aven beyond short crawl through hole in wall from food dump in 115 Big Chanber.
<br><aname="C1981-41-07"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1981-41-07">C1981-41-07 C</a> Upstream at the Confluence below Purgatory (thought to divide - all tributaries too small to follow)
<br><aname="C1981-41-08"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1981-41-08">C1981-41-08 X</a> Downstream continuation at silly depth [way on 1982]
<br><aname="C1981-115-09"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-09">C1981-115-09 X</a> Left turn from traverse level just downstream of Big Chamber [ends - may =81-41-05 - or is this way to Futility Series?]
<br><aname="C1981-115-10"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1981-115-10">C1981-115-10 X</a> Right where traverse gets too hard at <ahref="#C1981-115-05">C1981-115-05</a> [into phreatic maze area]
<br><aname="C1981-115-11"></a><ahref="115.htm#C1981-115-11">C1981-115-11 X</a> Right from junction in phreatic maze after low arch [now Purgatory Bypass]
<br><aname="C1981-115-12"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-12">C1981-115-12 X</a> Steeply rising continuation right from Cairn Junction [original link 41/115, joins C1981-41-11]
<br><aname="C1981-115-13"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-13">C1981-115-13 A</a> Continuation left from Cairn Junction (may be several passages here)
<br><aname="C1981-41-14"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-41-14">C1981-41-14 B</a> Follow stream below traverse right from <ahref="deepwy.htm#jncha">Junction Chamber</a>
<br><aname="C1981-41-15"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-41-15">C1981-41-15 ?</a> Continuation of traverse over stream (may not exist)
<br><aname="C1981-115-16"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-16">C1981-115-16 C</a> Descent to the stream from Cairn Junction
<br><aname="C1981-115-17"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-115-17">C1981-115-17 A</a> Left turn 16m
before 115 main passage, when coming from 41, mentioned in Journal, and quite clear on both sketch grade 1
of whole of this level and the grade 5 notes. <!-- at 41.Bypass.pt1.54 -->
This is a genuine QM. *Unless* its the <a
href="off115.htm#pboxbow">steeply rising tube</a> which loops back.
<p>Some of these QMs are rather spurious - they only existed for a few days
during expo at most. On the other hand, the original survey notes are showing
up some more QMs, not yet formally in the list:
<p>Hole down to sound of water at second junction with passage leading to
Cairn Junction <!-- 41.Bypass.pt1.41 --><br>
Hole to sound of water in Bypass well before Junction Chamber
<!-- 41.Bypass.pt1.39 --><br>
<p>There may be other QMs here - the descriptions/survey from each end (41
and 115) don't quite gel. We don't have the UBSS survey data for this
connection area, and once the main way on was open, this area was never
looked at again.
<p><aname="C1981-41-18"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1981-41-18">C1981-41-18 X</a> Phreatic passage left from 15m climb up at Junction Chamber "cucc/UBSS 1981" [main way back to stream avoiding Purgatory]
<br>Other ways on from this passage (Dartford Tunnel) were not noted in 1981, so have 1982 numbers
<br><aname="C1981-41-19"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-41-19">C1981-41-19 C</a> Descent to stream below traverse in passage right from Junction Chamber
<br><aname="C1981-41-20"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-41-20">C1981-41-20 C</a> First big aven in passage right from Junction Chamber climb
<br><aname="C1981-41-21"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1981-41-21">C1981-41-21 C</a> Terminal big aven in passage right from Junction Chamber climb
<br><aname="C1981-41-22"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1981-41-22">C1981-41-22 B</a> Continuation in sump bypass in lower streamway
<br><aname="C1981-41-23"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1981-41-23">C1981-41-23 B</a> Stream inlet on right between sump and 12' climb
<br><aname="C1981-41-24"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1981-41-24">C1981-41-24 B</a> Stream inlet on left just before Subtle approach
<br><aname="C1982-41-00"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-00">C1982-41-00 B</a> Downhill crawl on right at start of Dartford Tunnel
<br><aname="C1982-41-01"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-01">C1982-41-01 B</a> Inaccessible passage up on left, 40m down Dartford Tunnel
<br><aname="C1982-41-02"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-02">C1982-41-02 B</a> Another one 20m further on
<br><aname="C1982-41-03"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-03">C1982-41-03 C</a> Possible penetration down tight rift in floor of Dartford Tunnel
<br><aname="C1982-41-04"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-04">C1982-41-04 B</a> Passage high on left at cross-rift where main route goes right <!-- 41.Bypass.pt1.22 -->
<br><aname="C1982-41-05"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-05">C1982-41-05 C</a> Aven in inlet at end of right turn where cross-rift hits T-junction <!-- 41.Bypass.pt1.20 -->
<br><aname="C1982-41-06"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-06">C1982-41-06 C</a> Passage right at 4m climb down in P.B. to low mud/boulder area <!-- 41.Bypass.pt1. -->
<br><aname="C1982-41-07"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-07">C1982-41-07 !</a> Possible ways into vadose floor slots at various points along Purgatory Bypass, some with sound of stream. <!-- 41.Bypass.pt1. -->
<br><aname="C1982-41-08"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-08">C1982-41-08 C</a> Wet aven in alcove to left in last section of Purgatory Bypass
<br><aname="C1982-41-09"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-09">C1982-41-09 C</a> Aven on right a bit further on
<br><aname="C1982-41-10"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-10">C1982-41-10 B</a> Ways down into stream rift below "cucc/UBSS 1981" traverse
<br><aname="C1982-41-11"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-11">C1982-41-11 C</a> Continuation of Camp passage as traverse above Purgatory ?
<br><aname="C1982-41-12"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-12">C1982-41-12 A</a> Possible traverse right where descent to Confluence starts (hairy - mud.)
<br><aname="C1982-41-13"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-13">C1982-41-13 B</a> 25m+ climb up Köln Dom (not attempted)
<br><aname="C1982-41-14"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-14">C1982-41-14 B</a> Echo Aven (reached by hard climb, another climb to go)
<br><aname="C1982-41-15"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-15">C1982-41-15 B</a> Roof passage from sharp left bend before 7m pitch below Confluence "Dry Purgatory" (entered, unclear if it ends)
<br><aname="C1982-41-16"></a><ahref="offdp.htm#C1982-41-16">C1982-41-16 B</a> Cascade inlet (on right on survey, on left in description) downstream of short sump in main streamway
<br><aname="C1982-41-17"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-17">C1982-41-17 C</a> Terminal sump - but only an idiot would dive this.
<br><aname="C1982-41-18"></a><ahref="deepwy.htm#C1982-41-18">C1982-41-18 C</a> Small choked tube with no draught above final sump.
<br><aname="C1982-41-38"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-41-38">Other QMs</a> around <a
href="#C1980-41-28">C1980-41-28</a> were found in 1982, but I've currently mislaid the
sketching of this area. Published descriptions are very confusing
hereabouts.
<p>"132" discovered 31st July 1982, entered 1st August, only really pushed to
the pitch and the Big Chamber - "all" surveying done 1983. Properly called
1623/142, but may be 1623/115g in Austrian's books... There are stupid
numbers of QMs in here, all of which will probably link together. The
"survey" shows at least 31 QMs which must have been seen in 1982, and
fifteen more for 1983, but the sketching I have (which looks nothing like
the drawn up survey) suggests as many again. I am only including ones
mentioned in the description. Some of them may need turning into multiple
QMs.
<br><aname="C1982-142-19"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-19">C1982-142-19 A</a> Down first ramp on right in 142 "Wiggy's way to 60' pitch"
<br><aname="C1982-142-20"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-20">C1982-142-20 A</a> Down trench in floor 15m later to pitch
<br><aname="C1982-142-21"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-21">C1982-142-21 B</a> Holes in floor right before chamber
<br><aname="C1982-142-22"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-22">C1982-142-22 X</a> Through various gaps on right to low way [leads to huge batch of <ahref="#C1983-142-02">C1983-QMs</a>]
<br><aname="C1982-142-23"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-23">C1982-142-23 C</a> Tight lead on the left where main way narrows
<br><aname="C1982-142-24"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-24">C1982-142-24 C</a> Way up/left to a tight rift from main way
<br><aname="C1982-142-25"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-25">C1982-142-25 B</a> Down ramp from main way (one preceding "Bad Step")
<br><aname="C1982-142-26"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-26">C1982-142-26 B</a> Down ramp - the "Bad Step"
<br><aname="C1982-142-27"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-27">C1982-142-27 C</a> Small hole to right after the "Bad Step"
<br><aname="C1982-142-28"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-28">C1982-142-28 C</a> Small hole to the left after the "Bad Step"
<br><aname="C1982-142-29"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-29">C1982-142-29 B</a> Down ramp at step down in main way
<br><aname="C1982-142-30"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-30">C1982-142-30 C</a> Hole in the floor of main way
<br><aname="C1982-142-31"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-31">C1982-142-31 C</a> Left at
T-junction up from boulder chamber (allegedly blocked by boulder, but
apparently the connection point from <ahref="../78.htm">Schwabenschacht</a>
- 6km not bad for a "C" lead :-)
<br><aname="C1982-142-32"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-32">C1982-142-32 X</a> Right at T-junction [to pitch into 142 Big Chamber]
<br><aname="C1982-142-33"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-33">C1982-142-33 C</a> Various ways down boulders in Big Chamber (judged unsafe)
<br><aname="C1982-142-34"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1982-142-34">C1982-142-34 X</a> Way up at NE end of <ahref="off41.htm#bigcham142">Big Chamber</a> [connects to <ahref="#C1980-41-17">C1980-41-17</a>]
<br><aname="C1982-115-35"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1982-115-35">C1982-115-35 C</a> Two avens above gully at first junction left in <ahref="off115.htm#futser">Futility Series</a>
<br><aname="C1982-115-36"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1982-115-36">C1982-115-36 A</a> Draughting sand-choked tube at end of Futility Series - near surface ?
<br><aname="C1982-115-37"></a><ahref="off115.htm#C1982-115-37">C1982-115-37 C</a> Choke in left passage from <ahref="off115.htm#bignfcham">Big Enough Chamber</a>
<br>There are quite a few 1982 QMs in 144, none of which have yet been
extracted from the description.
<br><aname="C1983-142-00"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-00">C1983-142-00 X</a> Obscure route right through boulders part way up to T-jn of <ahref="#C1982-142-31">C1982-142-31</a> [to <ahref="off41.htm#rodrunway">Rodent Runway</a>, thence to 41]
<br><aname="C1983-142-01"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-01">C1983-142-01 !</a> c 7 unexplored leads off Rodent Runway
<br><aname="C1983-142-02"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-02">C1983-142-02 !</a> c 4 ways off at start of route from <ahref="#C1982-142-22">C1982-142-22</a>
<br><aname="C1983-142-03"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-03">C1983-142-03 A</a> Way on "To stream" in route from <ahref="#C1982-142-22">C1982-142-22</a>
<br><aname="C1983-142-04"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-04">C1983-142-04 ?</a> Way just right of <ahref="#C1983-142-03">C1983-142-03</a> - not in description, but appears on survey
<br><aname="C1983-142-05"></a><ahref="off41.htm#C1983-142-05">C1983-142-05 A</a> Continuation(s) of Dripping Chamber - end of route from <ahref="#C1982-142-22">C1982-142-22</a>
<p>There is a suspicion that the passages of <ahref="#C1982-142-22">C1982-142-22</a> have reached the German Route
<p>1983 QMs are very vague 'cos the survey is so crap. There are also a few
QMs from 84, and I haven't even vaguely put in the QMs in 1623/144, of which
there are quite a large number, which belong here since the cave connects
(the linking-in point is <ahref="#C1980-41-33">C1980-41-33</a>, which should have been
a 1980 QM, but can't tell if it was actually noticed that year).
<p>I count over 80 of those QM's as having no described continuation. Several
of these are groups of ways on which may or may not go to the same place. No
doubt some of these have been looked at, but not written up or surveyed. Most
of those will be fairly short. Equally, I suspect that quite a lot will have
been missed on the surveys, which would bring the numbers back up again.
<p>A large proportion of these QMs can be reached without ANY rigging of
existing pitches. The survey of 142 is/was a shambles, and needs, at the
very least, someone to go in and do a lot of sketching, simply to tie down
what has been looked at. The more I think about it, the more I believe that
the shaft at the end of the German Route alleged to be 220m must have been a
way into the Big Pitch, and not what CUCC pushed in 1980. We have no
adequate survey of the German route, which would be handy to have (at least
for that part which doesn't need rigging), as we could then see if the QMs
in 142 and the CUCC route in 41 do indeed reach the German Route.
<p>Initial impressions are that the further from the entrance a QM was, the
more likely it is to have been pushed (unlike 161 :-). This may simply mean
that people were less observant and less careful to note QMs lower down.
<p>CUCC does now have survey data and a published plan, showing where
1623/88 (Lärchenhöhle) connects to the big pitch. However, we
haven't yet generated any kind of passage description.
<p>The QM situation in 142 is such that a chronological numbering is getting
silly. It may be impossible to identify the numbered QMs "in the
cave", in which case the thing to do is to delete that QM, and number
all new ones with C2000-142- (or whatever year it is) numbers.
