diff --git a/core/views_logbooks.py b/core/views_logbooks.py
index 92be4cc..c3cea1e 100644
--- a/core/views_logbooks.py
+++ b/core/views_logbooks.py
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ def getNotablePersons():
     for person in Person.objects.all():
             if person.bisnotable():
                 notablepersons.append(person)
-    return notablepersons		
+    return notablepersons
 
 
 def personindex(request):
@@ -84,13 +84,28 @@ def expedition(request, expeditionname):
 def get_absolute_url(self):
     return ('expedition', (expedition.year))
 
-class ExpeditionListView(ListView):
+class ExpeditionListView(ListView): # django thus expects a template called "expedition_list.html" 
+# from the name of the object not the name of the class.
     model = Expedition
 
-    def get_context_data(self, **kwargs):
-        context = super(ExpeditionListView, self).get_context_data(**kwargs)
-        context['now'] = timezone.now()
-        return context
+
+class Expeditions_tsvListView(ListView): 
+    """This uses the Django built-in shortcut mechanism 
+    It defaults to use a template with name <app-label>/<model-name>_list.html.
+    https://www.agiliq.com/blog/2017/12/when-and-how-use-django-listview/
+    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Server-side/Django/Generic_views
+    Either a queryset variable  or set_queryset() function is used, but not needed
+    if you want all the obejcts of a particaulr type in which case just set model = <object>
+    """
+    template_name = 'core/expeditions_tsv_list.html' # if not present then uses core/expedition_list.html 
+    #queryset = Expedition.objects.all()
+    #context_object_name = 'expedition'
+    model = Expedition # equivalent to .objects.all() for a queryset
+
+class Expeditions_jsonListView(ListView): 
+    template_name = 'core/expeditions_json_list.html' 
+    model = Expedition 
+
 
 def person(request, first_name='', last_name='', ):
     this_person = Person.objects.get(first_name = first_name, last_name = last_name)
diff --git a/core/views_statistics.py b/core/views_statistics.py
index 204a24e..8fb968d 100644
--- a/core/views_statistics.py
+++ b/core/views_statistics.py
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ from django.shortcuts import render, render_to_response
 from django.template import Context, loader
 from django.template.defaultfilters import slugify
 from django.utils import timezone
-from django.views.generic.list import ListView
+#from django.views.generic.list import ListView
 
 from troggle.core.models import Expedition, Person, PersonExpedition
 from troggle.core.models_caves import Cave, LogbookEntry
@@ -18,34 +18,40 @@ import troggle.settings as settings
 
 
 def pathsreport(request):
-    pathsdict={
-    "CAVEDESCRIPTIONS" : settings.CAVEDESCRIPTIONS,
-    "DIR_ROOT" : settings.DIR_ROOT,
-    "ENTRANCEDESCRIPTIONS" : settings.ENTRANCEDESCRIPTIONS,
-    "EXPOUSER_EMAIL" : settings.EXPOUSER_EMAIL,
-    "EXPOUSERPASS" :"<redacted>",
-    "EXPOUSER" : settings.EXPOUSER,
-    "EXPOWEB" : settings.EXPOWEB,
-    "EXPOWEB_URL" : settings.EXPOWEB_URL,
-    "FILES" : settings.FILES,
-    "JSLIB_URL" : settings.JSLIB_URL,
-    "LOGFILE" : settings.LOGFILE,
-    "LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL" : settings.LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL,
-    "MEDIA_ROOT" : settings.MEDIA_ROOT,
-    "MEDIA_URL" : settings.MEDIA_URL,
-    "PHOTOS_URL" : settings.PHOTOS_URL,
-    "PYTHON_PATH" : settings.PYTHON_PATH,
-    "REPOS_ROOT_PATH" : settings.REPOS_ROOT_PATH,
-    "ROOT_URLCONF" : settings.ROOT_URLCONF,
-    "STATIC_URL" : settings.STATIC_URL,
-    "SURVEX_DATA" : settings.SURVEX_DATA,
-    "SURVEY_SCANS" : settings.SURVEY_SCANS,
-    "SURVEYS" : settings.SURVEYS,
-    "SURVEYS_URL" : settings.SURVEYS_URL,
-    "THREEDCACHEDIR" : settings.THREEDCACHEDIR,
-    "TUNNEL_DATA" : settings.TUNNEL_DATA,
-    "URL_ROOT" : settings.URL_ROOT
-    }
+    pathsdict={}
+    try:
+        pathsdict={
+#       "BOGUS" : settings.BOGUS,
+        "CAVEDESCRIPTIONS" : settings.CAVEDESCRIPTIONS,
+        "DIR_ROOT" : settings.DIR_ROOT,
+        "ENTRANCEDESCRIPTIONS" : settings.ENTRANCEDESCRIPTIONS,
+        "EXPOUSER_EMAIL" : settings.EXPOUSER_EMAIL,
+        "EXPOUSERPASS" :"<redacted>",
+        "EXPOUSER" : settings.EXPOUSER,
+        "EXPOWEB" : settings.EXPOWEB,
+        "EXPOWEB_URL" : settings.EXPOWEB_URL,
+        "FILES" : settings.FILES,
+        "JSLIB_URL" : settings.JSLIB_URL,
+        "LOGFILE" : settings.LOGFILE,
+        "LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL" : settings.LOGIN_REDIRECT_URL,
+        "MEDIA_ROOT" : settings.MEDIA_ROOT,
+        "MEDIA_URL" : settings.MEDIA_URL,
+        "PHOTOS_URL" : settings.PHOTOS_URL,
+        "PYTHON_PATH" : settings.PYTHON_PATH,
+        "REPOS_ROOT_PATH" : settings.REPOS_ROOT_PATH,
+        "ROOT_URLCONF" : settings.ROOT_URLCONF,
+        "STATIC_URL" : settings.STATIC_URL,
+        "SURVEX_DATA" : settings.SURVEX_DATA,
+        "SURVEY_SCANS" : settings.SURVEY_SCANS,
+        "SURVEYS" : settings.SURVEYS,
+        "SURVEYS_URL" : settings.SURVEYS_URL,
+        "THREEDCACHEDIR" : settings.THREEDCACHEDIR,
+        "TUNNEL_DATA" : settings.TUNNEL_DATA,
+        "URL_ROOT" : settings.URL_ROOT
+        }
+    except:
+        pathsdict["! EXCEPTION !"] = "missing string constant in troggle/settings"
+
     # settings are unique by paths are not
     ncodes = len(pathsdict)
     bycodeslist = sorted(pathsdict.items())
diff --git a/templates/baseapi.html b/templates/baseapi.html
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..372c1bb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/templates/baseapi.html
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+{% block content %}{% endblock %}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/templates/core/expeditions_json_list.html b/templates/core/expeditions_json_list.html
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ebd5834
--- /dev/null
+++ b/templates/core/expeditions_json_list.html
@@ -0,0 +1,4 @@
+{% extends "baseapi.html" %}
+{% block content %}{
+{% for expedition in object_list %}"{{expedition.year}}": ["{{expedition.name}}","{{expedition.get_absolute_url}}"]
+{% endfor %} }{% endblock %}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/templates/core/expeditions_tsv_list.html b/templates/core/expeditions_tsv_list.html
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..6aa2b15
--- /dev/null
+++ b/templates/core/expeditions_tsv_list.html
@@ -0,0 +1,3 @@
+{% extends "baseapi.html" %}
+{% block content %}{% for expedition in object_list %}{{expedition.year}}	"{{expedition.name}}"	"{{expedition.get_absolute_url}}"
+{% endfor %}{% endblock %}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/urls.py b/urls.py
index 74b0064..e64d7ce 100644
--- a/urls.py
+++ b/urls.py
@@ -45,6 +45,8 @@ actualurlpatterns = [
 
     url(r'^expedition/(\d+)$',  views_logbooks.expedition,  name="expedition"),
     url(r'^expeditions/?$',     views_logbooks.ExpeditionListView.as_view(), name="expeditions"),
+    url(r'^api/expeditions_tsv$', views_logbooks.Expeditions_tsvListView.as_view()),
+    url(r'^api/expeditions_json$', views_logbooks.Expeditions_jsonListView.as_view()),
     url(r'^personexpedition/(?P<first_name>[A-Z]*[a-z&;]*)[^a-zA-Z]*(?P<last_name>[A-Z]*[a-zA-Z&;]*)/(?P<year>\d+)/?$', views_logbooks.personexpedition, name="personexpedition"),
     url(r'^logbookentry/(?P<date>.*)/(?P<slug>.*)/?$', views_logbooks.logbookentry,name="logbookentry"),
 #    url(r'^newlogbookentry/(?P<expeditionyear>.*)$', views_logbooks.newLogbookEntry,     name="newLogBookEntry"), # Needed !