diff --git a/core/models/caves.py b/core/models/caves.py
index 8b23ceb..0001814 100644
--- a/core/models/caves.py
+++ b/core/models/caves.py
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ class Cave(TroggleModel):
     length = models.CharField(max_length=100, blank=True, null=True)
     depth = models.CharField(max_length=100, blank=True, null=True)
     extent = models.CharField(max_length=100, blank=True, null=True)
-    survex_file = models.CharField(max_length=100, blank=True, null=True)
+    survex_file = models.CharField(max_length=100, blank=True, null=True) # should be a foreign key
     description_file = models.CharField(max_length=200, blank=True, null=True)
     url = models.CharField(max_length=200, blank=True, null=True)
     filename = models.CharField(max_length=200)
@@ -109,6 +109,8 @@ class Cave(TroggleModel):
         ordering = ("kataster_code", "unofficial_number")
 
     def hassurvey(self):
+        """This is almost certainly a fossil - needs checking...
+        """
         if not self.underground_centre_line:
             return "No"
         if (
diff --git a/templates/cave.html b/templates/cave.html
index a7faab2..65d43f5 100644
--- a/templates/cave.html
+++ b/templates/cave.html
@@ -480,17 +480,22 @@ div#scene {
 
 
 <div id="Description">
-
+{% comment %} The 'cave' object has text field, not forign-key fields, so we cant dereference to get info on the survex file 
+{% endcomment %}
 <p>{% if cave.explorers %}
     <h2>Explorers</h2>
     {{ cave.explorers|safe }}
 {% endif %}
     <h2>Survex File(s)</h2>
-    All <a href="/survexfile/{{cave.kataster_number}}">survexfiles</a> for this cave<br />
+    All <a href="/survexfile/{{cave.kataster_number}}">survexfiles</a> for this cave  {<br />
 {% if cave.survex_file %}
     Primary <a href="/survexfile/{{cave.survex_file}}">survex file</a> for this cave 
     <p>[<a href="https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/">CaveView</a> display of the .3d file is temporarily disabled while we fix things (Nov.2021).<br> See <a href="/handbook/computing/todo.rst">/handbook/computing/todo.rst</a>.]<br><br>
     
+    Download .3d file <a href="/cave/3d/{{cave}}">caves-{{  cave.area.all.0.kat_area }}/{{cave.kataster_number}}/{{svx3d}}.3d</a>
+<br>
+cave ID '{{cave.reference}}'<br>
+cave survex path '{{  cave.area.all.0.kat_area }}/{{cave.kataster_number}}'
     <div id='scene'></div>
 {% endif %}
 {% if cave.underground_description %}
diff --git a/templates/qm.html b/templates/qm.html
index 0b6a633..c027918 100644
--- a/templates/qm.html
+++ b/templates/qm.html
@@ -48,14 +48,14 @@ Comment: '<span style="color:red;">{{qm.comment}}</span>'</a> <br />
 
 <h4>QM original closest survey station</h4>
 {% if qm.block %}
-Survex block: {{qm.blockname}}
+Survex block: <span style="font-family: monospace">{{qm.blockname}}</span>
 <br>
 {% endif %}
-QM Nearest station: '{{qm.nearest_station_name}}' {{nearest_station_description}}<br />
-QM page_ref: '{{qm.page_ref|safe}}'<br>
+QM Nearest station: <span style="font-family: monospace">'{{qm.nearest_station_name}}' {{nearest_station_description}}</span><br />
+QM Page reference: <span style="font-family: monospace">'<a href="/{{qm.cave.url_parent}}/{{qm.page_ref}}">{{qm.page_ref|safe}}</a>'</span><br>
 
 <h4>QM original description</h4>
-{{qm.location_description|safe}}
+<div style="text-indent: 5%; font-family: monospace">{{qm.location_description|safe}}</div>
 
 {% if qm.found_by %}
 <h4>Creation</h4>
@@ -64,11 +64,10 @@ Found by <a href="{{qm.found_by.get_absolute_url}}">{{qm.found_by}}</a> on {{qm.
 
 {% if qm.cave %}
 <h4>Cave: {{qm.cave|safe }}</h4>
-{{ qm.cave|safe }} - <a href="{% url 'caveQMs' qm.cave|safe %}">All QMs </a> <br>
+{{ qm.cave|safe }} - <a href="{% url 'caveQMs' qm.cave|safe %}">all QMs </a> for this cave <br>
 {{ qm.cave|safe }} - <a href="/{{ qm.cave.url }}"> cave description </a> <br />
-{{ qm.cave|safe }} - <a href="/survexfile/{{ qm.cave.kataster_number }}"> survexfiles </a> <br />
-{{ qm.cave|safe }} - all <a href="/survexfile/{{qm.cave.kataster_number}}">survexfiles</a><br />
-{{ qm.cave|safe }} -  <a href="/survexfile/{{qm.cave.survex_file}}">primary survexfile</a>
+{{ qm.cave|safe }} - all <a href="/survexfile/{{qm.cave.kataster_number}}">survexfiles</a> for this cave<br />
+{{ qm.cave|safe }} -  <a href="/survexfile/{{qm.cave.survex_file}}">primary survexfile</a> for this cave<br /><br />
 {% endif %}
 
 </div>