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Note that this lot is based on the prospecting guide and website, and is probably way out of date already
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Can't get Austrian number without more work:
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A1 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B1 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B2 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B3 missing, unsurveyed, untagged - may be findable starting from B4
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B5 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but almost certainly identical with a kataster-numbered cave
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B6 missing, probably numbered in invisible green paint. 8m blind. Too small to go in kataster.
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B10 missing, occasional sightings ? probably numbered in invisible green paint
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BS16 unmarked, unsurveyed, coords may or may not be any good
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BS17 we have no survey data, but believed relocated 2015 ? Remote and hard cave
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BS19 unmarked, unsurveyed, coords may or may not be any good
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LA11 we have LUSS data
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LA12 location in svx, no data
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LA25 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA26 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA27 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA30 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA34 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map, may be in 1626
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LA35 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA37 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA38 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA40 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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1987-02 Surveyed, photoed, tagged. Submitted 2016
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1992-X-01 allegedly refindable, but unmarked and undescended
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1996-01 needs survey - coords are pre-SA and believed hopelessly wrong
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1996-WK-4 cords pre-SA. Failed to refind.
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1996-WK-11 explored (digable), surveyed, tagged, photoed. Submitted 2016
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1996-WK-12 needs survey, needs retag (2005-89 as no letters in tag kit)
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1996-X-01 documented as under 3m long - so should not need an Austrian number
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1996-05 apparently a non-CUCC discovery but no evidence of exploration - should be done !
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1997-07 needs survey
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1999-MS-01 unmarked, needs survey (unexplored?)
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1999-MS-02 unmarked, needs survey (unexplored?)
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1999-OB-01 too insignificant to need a kataster number
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1999-OB-02 PG: surveyed but data/drawing missing. svx has 3 legs refer wallet 2006#?? Can't see anything in 2006#1 to 2006#33, ie scanned stuff
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1999-X-01 needs survey and tag
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2000-02 needs survey and photo
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2000-08 needs survey
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2001-02 needs survey and tag added to spit
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2001-03 needs survey
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2001-06 needs survey
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2001-07 needs survey and tag, exploration incomplete
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2001-08 explored. needs survey (has grade2 sketch), and tag (has spit)
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2001-09 needs resurvey (original missing)
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2001-10 needs survey
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2001-11 needs survey, or might be too short for kataster
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2001-12 needs survey - may be a VfHM cave
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2002-03 needs survey and entrance photo
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2002-05 have svx, not in PG. ent coords in 2006#1
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2002-06 surveyed, but drawing lost - may be too short for a kataster number. ent coords in 2006#1
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2002-07 have svx, not in PG
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2002-08 surveyed, but drawing lost. May be pushed by small chemical persuasion
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2002-10 needs survey and entrance photo
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2002-AD-01 needs survey and entrance photo, and tag
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2002-AD-02 needs survey and entrance photo, and tag
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2002-AD-03 needs survey and entrance photo, unmarked
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2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data
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2002-OB-01 needs survey, tag and more push
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2002-W-01 PG says needs survey, but location says "see sketch in survey notes"
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2002-W-02 PG: needs survey and tag. Seem to have 2002 svx data
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2002-X-09 unmarked and undescended
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2002-X-09b unmarked - just a rock shelter, cannot need a kataster number
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2002-X-15 unmarked, needs survey and better description if over 10m
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2002-X-16 unmarked - may not be penetrable - one word description is illegible
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2002-X-17 unmarked, needs survey
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2002-X-18 unmarked, needs survey if over 10m
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2002-XX needs tag, surveyed, but drawing lost
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2003-01 not in PG, have a short svx - refer to wallet 2003#10
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2003-07 unmarked, location and photo may not be the right cave, and the 2003-07 tag was on 2003-08 (now 240)
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2003-X-11 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-12 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-13 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-14 needs survey and tag. See wallet 2006#12 <5m long, does not need kataster number
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2003-X-15 unmarked, needs survey.
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2003-X-16 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-17 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo, or may be too short for kataster
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2003-X-18 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2004-01 surveyed,
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2004-02 needs survey and possible boulder removal
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------- "Mystery cave nearish 186" in same wallet as 2004-03 has no ID, but could be given one, and drawn up. Location ?
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2004-04 undescended, no coords
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2004-05 undescended, no coords, tag prepared but not placed 2004 - did this ever get done ? Does sound refindable...
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2004-06 undescended, no coords, ditto
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2004-07 needs survey
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2004-08 PG: needs survey. 14 legs svx, refer wallet 2006#16 - sketching really not adequate for a survey
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2004-09 undescended, no coords, tag prepared but not placed 2004, probably near (missing) 177 ...
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2004-10 PG: needs survey - may be QMs. 8 legs of svx, refer wallet 2013# xxxxx
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2004-13 needs survey and entrance photo, only marking is part-drilled spit hole
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2004-14 surveyed, but drawing lost. refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-15 svx, refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-16 undescended, drafts in
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2004-17 needs survey
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2004-18 needs survey, may go further with low snow
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2004-21 unmarked, needs survey, one QM
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2005-01 unmarked, survey done but drawing missing, needs entrance photo
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2005-02 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2005-03 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2005-06 needs survey
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2005-08 needs survey
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2005-91 needs survey, may be undescended ?
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2005-92 needs survey
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2005-93 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-94 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-95 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-96 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-97 needs survey, or may just be too short to need kataster number
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2005-98 needs survey - apparently not a CUCC find
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2005-99 needs survey, short but will be hard work (tight)
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2006-01 needs survey and marking - undescended
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2006-02 needs survey and marking
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2006-03 needs survey and marking
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2006-05 needs survey and entrance photo
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2006-06 surveyed, but drawing lost. ent coords in 2006#1
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2006-07 needs survey and entrance photo
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2006-08 needs survey and entrance photo - svx ? wallet 2007#31 seems to be grade 1 plan and elev but 2006#33 may be actual survey (2 legs)
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2006-09 needs survey
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2006-70 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs tag
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2006-71 not in PG. see wallet 2006#16
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2006-72 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2007-01 needs survey, photo
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2007-02 needs survey, photo
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2007-70 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2007-72 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2011-01 surveyed, photoed. Katesterable. 3 QM C
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2012-HW-01 needs survey or may be less than 10m and not needing kataster number
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2012-HW-02 unmarked, needs survey or may be too short for kataster
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2012-OK-01 unexplored, unmarked
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2012-OK-02 unexplored, unmarked
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2012-OK-03 is BS17
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2012-NS-03 needs drawing up
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2013-sw-01 needs drawing up
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2014-NEO_01 surveyed, drawn, tagged. No photo
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2014-SD-01 surveyed, not drawn, tagged. No photo
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2014-MS-01 to 2014-MS-14 GPS only. No data.
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88F not our cave, no survey
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88H not our cave, missing
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E02 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E09 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E16 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E28 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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HFG-KA88 not our cave, no survey
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Have got Austrian number, but not actually/adequately documented:
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(some things listed as surveyed but drawing lost may mean surveyed by Arge, so we have the data, but no pictures)
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37 & 38 to be fair, these aren't our caves, I think...
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40 we have survey data, no drawing (mostly not CUCC exploration)
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71 drawn up survey, no data (Karl Gaisberger cave, CUCC surveyed)
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76 survey of deepest parts deeply suspect (grade 1)
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80 needs survey
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81 needs survey
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82 well-documented, but original survey data thrown away
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83 PG: needs survey. Seems to be a *lot* of survey data from 2012
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84 missing since c 1977, may actually be 148
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85 needs survey - has to be done in a low-snow year
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86 missing since c 1977, 25m rift, SE of 82 - needs a search
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87 PG says no survey and marking may be wrong. I thought we did survey this ? dataset has Arge resurvey data, 2003
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87B too short for kataster and may be incorrectly marked 88
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89 missing, 25m shaft. Should have bolts, so ought to at least be indentifiable if found, but person who remembers this may be confusing it with 98
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90 needs survey
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91 needs survey
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92 missing
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93 needs survey
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94 needs survey
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95 needs survey
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96 needs survey
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97 sketch survey only - has QMs, really needs doing again (but tight and then wet)
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98 needs survey (2 pitches to c 48m depth)
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99 survey data missing. very esoteric drawn survey. links 76, so this info may be out of date ?
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100 needs survey
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101 needs survey
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102 needs survey
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103 needs survey
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104 needs survey
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105 needs survey
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106 numbering cockup
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108 needs survey and more convincing description
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109 needs survey, probably in low-snow year
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110 PG "We don't have a kitten's chance in heck of finding this" but believed now located, needs survey and entrance photo ?
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111 needs survey. wallet 2006#32 has GPS fix
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112 needs survey. wallet 2006#32 claims to be one, but is just a sketch (and then surface survey)
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113 PG says needs survey which will be quite hard as it is 330m deep, but I think that it was surveyed...
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the coords says "at start of underground survey". Suspect PG bollocks.
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114 utterly missing, no conceivable hope of finding or identifying this
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117-120 missing, but probably not CUCC anyway
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127-130 missing, but probably not CUCC anyway
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131-133 not ours, but beware we may have painted these numbers elsewhere...
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135 surveyed, but drawing lost
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136 surveyed, but drawing lost
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137 no survey or coords but near enough a known cave to refind ?
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138 surveyed, but drawing lost
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139 surveyed, but drawing lost
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140 needs survey
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141 needs pushed and surveyed, probably mislabelled 131
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146 missing, but ought to be refindable from 147, though apparently unmarked, probably undescended
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149 missing, but ought to be refindable from 145, though unmarked. needs survey
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150 actually too short for a kataster number (2m)
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151 ditto (3m?)
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152 surveyed, but drawing lost
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153 needs survey
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154 needs survey
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155 mostly undescended
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156 needs survey, may go further in a low-snow year
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157 needs survey in low snow year, and may link to 107 (PG) but seems to be 2012 survey data
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158 drawn survey, but data missing
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159 needs survey
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160 needs survey and description
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164 needs survey
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165 needs survey. PG notes another cave nearby with a non-CUCC bolt, which we should also document
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171 needs survey - no rigging, walking passage, should be easy !
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173 needs survey
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174 needs survey
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175 needs survey
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176 needs survey
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177 missing, no bolts (explored to 35m on Bunde belay)
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178 missing
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179 missing
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180 needs survey
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181 needs survey and entrance pic
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182 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag
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183 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag and entrnce pic
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184 needs survey, tag and pic
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185 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag
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186 needs survey
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187 unmarked, only partly explored
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188 needs survey
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189 needs survey
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190 needs survey
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191 needs survey and photo
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192 missing, paint marked, partially explored, has a spit (not ours?)
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194 needs survey
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197 needs survey
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198 needs survey (=B11)
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200 surveyed 1998. data generated from drawn-up survey
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201 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs photo
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202 surveyed, but drawing lost
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203 surveyed, but drawing lost
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205 needs retag
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206 surveyed, but drawing lost, coords only for 1 (of 5) ent
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209 surveyed, but drawing lost
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210 needs survey (=1998-03)
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214 needs survey
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215 Desc says "? Wookey"
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216 surveyed, but drawing lost
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217 needs survey, desc says "? Wookey"
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218 needs survey and retag (WOOK6 - which ought to have been 1996-WK-06)
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219 needs survey and retag (WOOK5 - which ought to have been 1996-WK-05)
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220 survey done, but missing
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222 needs survey and retag (9604)
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223 needs survey and retag (96-03)
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224 needs survey and retag (9602)
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225 needs survey
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226 needs survey and description
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227 needs survey and description
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228 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs marking and entrance photo
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229 surveyed, but drawing lost, spit but no tag
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230 needs survey and retag (99-04)
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235 needs survey
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236 needs survey, mistagged as 232
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237 needs survey and coords for 2 (of 3) entrances
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238 second half of survey from 2012 never drawn up
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239 needs entrance photo
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242 needs entrance photo
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243 needs entrance photo and retag (2001-05) which may have been done in 2004 (yes, PG is that out of date...)
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244 needs retag ? Second part of survey allegedly not scanned, so presumably full survey not drawn up
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245 needs retag ? Published survey still under number 2003-09 - should really redraw
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246 needs retag ?
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247 needs retag ? drawn survey, but data missing. Drawn survey is essentially a sketch, so needs a real survey
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248 needs retag ? needs entrance photo
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249 needs retag ?
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250 needs entrance photo (=2000-aa-01)
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251 needs retag ?
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253 needs entrance photos (2 ents). Needs retag ? (was 2004-15)
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254 needs entrance photos (3 ents) 2 ents might need tags (already punched at stone bridge (in 2016)) (was 2004-19)
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255 needs retag ? (was 2004-20)
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256 needs entrance photo
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257 needs underground description
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263 needs retag ? (2010-01)
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264 allegedly needs retag (2005-05). Seems unlikely... but no-one has actually checked (2015)
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271 Needs retag ? (was 2007-71)
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Ought to be able to submit documentation and get a number:
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There are depressingly few here partly because we have actually caught
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up quite a few in 2017,18,19, and because the documentation and links are so crap...
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B4 survey needs drawing up (technically too short for kataster?)
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2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data
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2004-01 76 bivi cave - PG: lived in but no survey !! Seem to have svx refer wallet 2006#6 which has a passable plan and elev
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2004-03 PG: tagged, no survey. 6 legs of svx, refer wallet 2006#15 which contains something that could be drawn as a plan
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2004-14 surveyed, but drawing lost. refer wallet 2004#41
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2006-73 tagged, unexplored. But seems to be a survey in 2006#31 under name Ice Curtain Cave. No description on website.
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2014-SD-01 2014 SD 01 looks a convincing set of docs - survey needs drawing
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2006-71 not in PG. see wallet 2006#16.
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Main cave index page now shows temporary numbers as well as kataster
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numbers, so serves as main translation table between old/new numbers.
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Needed because log books will refer to the old number, whilst the website descriptions will (over time) be
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updated to the final number, and stuff which is documented will go away from the Prospecting Guide...
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