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<h1>Austria 1991</h1>
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<a id="id1991-182-4">7/7/91 | Puffball and Icing Sugar cave</a> | Gill, Jon, <u>Olly</u>
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<p>Tony wanted someone to go surveying with him & Jon, but somehow we got
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Gill instead. We went to the "bottom", looked down a hole partway
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up the shaft and slung the end of the rope down off a dodgy-ish natural.
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Unfortunately it got nowhere near the bottom. So we gave up on that and
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started surveying out. After about three pitches, it emerged that we
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couldn't possibly survey much more and get out in time for our call out, so
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we gave up and left.
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<p>T/U 7 hours
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<p><a href="#id1991-182-3">Previous trip</a> /
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<a id="id1991-182-5">8/7/91 | Puffball and Icing Sugar Cave</a> | Gill, <u>Olly</u>
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<p>Decided I like the cave, so went back (minus Jon who had damaged his
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knee), to do some surveying and push the hole. Surveyed for five (yes, 5)
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hours and got to the bottom of the first rope. God that rift is awful ! Then
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grabbed some rope and hangers and a bolting kit and continued on down. The
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hole continues down to a ledge, by a small chamner where a trickle enters
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high above, where a rebelay was needed. Being lazy, impatient and short of
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time, I rigged the world's worst deviation which fell off when Gill got on
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the rope. Never mind. Explored along nasty rift (tip: keep up on hands and
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knees) - "Tarzan's Folly" - and finally emerged in an impressively
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high blackened chamber - "The Dark Room". Called Gill to come and
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look, then got stuck getting back, eventually emerging at 23:15 - call out
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was 23:00 - Ooops.
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<p>Anyhow, Tony, Iain M, Jon and Andy A arrived at about 23:30 and seemed
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mostly relieved.
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<p>T/U 11 hours.
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<p>[big graphic]
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<p><a href="#id1991-182-4">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1991-182-6">Next trip</a>
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<a id="id1991-182-6">9/7/91 | Puffball and Icing Sugar Cave</a> | Mark M, Julian T, <u>Olly</u>
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<p>Oh no, I'm getting keen on caving ! Due to rain, no one except me got up
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(except Mark S who just made a paella breakfast and went back to bed). Then
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Ian H, Mark M and Julian T came up from base camp. Ian's gear was at 161,
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but Mark M's was at 182, and Julian's was in his rucksack, so that decided
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it.
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<p>Anyway, we went down to the 3 rope protectors, one of which had exploded
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in front of me the day before, and put in a bolt to try to remove the rub -
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failed, unfortunately ! Went on, and Julian put in a bolt on the ledge and
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then we clambered into the Dark Room, followed slowly by Mark M, cursing his
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tackle sack in Tarzan's Folly.
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<p>The only obvious way on (and probably only possible without aven bolting)
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is parallel to Tarzan's Folly, and is a rift with several levels, ending at
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a pitch. We slung a 19m rope down, which was too short, so I added a knot
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pass, then Julian found a 46m rope in the bottom of the sack, so we rigged
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the pitch and the next one with it. The upper one we've called "Natural
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Redundancy", due to the obvious natural 6 inches from the bolt,
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completely unused. The next pitch is the "Cyclotron" followed by a
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very wierd rift with tippex pretties, called "Quark, Strangeness and
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Charm", then scrambling down to a 15-20m pitch into "Cloud
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Chamber". Julian's watch gave this chamber a depth of 175-200m below
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the surface. Hurried out to try to catch the last of the daylight and got
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out in 2½ hours. Walked back in the dark, and then down to base camp
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to repair my shredded oversuit.
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<p>T/U: 10 hours
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<p>P.S. Don't rant about pushing without surveying, as I went surveying the
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day before and I'll be back !
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<p><u>Note</u>: In a fair rain, Puffball was wettish, but showed no sign of
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being dangerous ! [but see <a href="#id1991-182-7">next trip !</a>]
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<p>[2 pages of sketches]
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<p><a href="#id1991-182-5">Previous trip</a> /
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<p><a id="id1991-161-1">5/7/91 | 161 - 1st rigging in trip | Wook, Iain, Henri, Gill, Mark S, Julian S, Ian H</p>
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Wook, Iain, Henry, Gill, Mark S, Julian S, Ian H
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\---------v--------------------/ \--v--/
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Team A \------------v-------/ team
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Team B C
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T/U: 9 9 9 7 5 5 0!
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<p>Rigging in to 161 finally begins: Iain finally managed a decent job of
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the second pitch, rigged down to halfway down hole in the roof but bolt was
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terminally rusty, Iain's hand hurt and Henry was tired so we went home.
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<p>Mark S, Julian S & Ian H all arrived as we descended. Ian had no hat
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& light & so went home. Gill got left behind with Mark & Julian
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adding a bolt to eyehole & went out with them - getting strung up for an
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hour on the entrance pitch.
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<p>There were 2 more pitches then in the topo down dreamtime which caused
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some problems with shuffling ropes. Iain put in another bolt on the handline
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climb !
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<p><a href="../1990/log.htm#id1990-161-last">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1991-161-2">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1991-161c-1">Same day in France entrance (161c)</a>
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<p>8/7/91 | 161 | <u>Wook</u>, Iain, Mark S</p>
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<pre>
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<a id="id1991-161-2">
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t/u 9 7 9</a>
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Mon 1991.07.08 <u>Wook</u>, Iain, Mark S
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<p>Continue rigging in 161
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<p>Boozied on down and played drills re-rigging the third pitch in a fun
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manner - better but not perfect. Carried on & added a traverse line then
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re-rigged hole in the roof. Iain's hand had exploded so he went home. Mark
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& I carried on & rigged as far as the head of Knossos. Decided to
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come out rather than make it overnight. Got burned off by Mark on the way
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out. Grr. Managed 9 bolts on one battery.
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<p><a href="#id1991-161-1">Previous trip</a> /
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<a id="id1991-161-3">10/7/91</a> | 161 - Go to Burble | <u>Wook</u>, Henri, Andrew
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<p>Go to Burble
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<p>Finally reached Burble - Henry fell off traverse by SC36 & bashed
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chin but survived. Andy was left to bolt the big pitch while Henry &
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Wook attempted to survey the crawl. When geraldine ran out of welly Andy
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took over survey notes, whilst Wook went on to do more rigging. A bit of
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nasty animal rigging got him down to the floor (p38 ish) lots of phreatic
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maze at the bottom, mostly glacially filled - but with one draughting 20-30m
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pitch. Stupid place to find cave !
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t/u 15
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<a id="id1991-161c-1">5/7/91</a> | RIGGING DOWN 161C | Mark D, Fran, Paul S
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<p>mark rigged down the French pitch, mainly using their spits - which had
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been missed by most people last year. Y-hang at far end of pitch head beyond
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large boulders c 10m with deviation to point where rift doubles back on
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itself. c 15m of abseiling down sloping ledges to point where rift drops
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into a much larger one. 5m to deviation on far wall, 10m extra to rebelay
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then 15m to floor. Pitch lands adjacent to cubic boulder (The Dice) in
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France. Just below last rebelay is large phreatic tube heading off towards
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French Connection II rift.
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<p>Mark attempted to rig down large hole beyond the Dice - Roll of the Dice
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- which is undescended by us. Abject failure when driver head sheared off.
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Gentle exit with Fran getting used to Austrian rebelays.
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<p>T/U 5½ hours.
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<p><a href="../1990/log.htm#id1990-161c-4">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1991-161c-2">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1991-161-1">Same day in main entrance</a>
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<a id="id1991-161c-3">11/07/91</a> | SURVEYING 161C - FRANCE & RIGGING ROLL OF THE DICE | MARK D, MARK F, JULIAN S, PAUL S</p>
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<p>Mark F, Julian and I surveyed down to France uneventfully whilst Mark D
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rigged Roll of the Dice and below. On the way down, Mark D & I entered
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the large phreatic tube just below the last rebelay. Surprisingly it was
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virgin - sloping down the bedding steeply to intersect the boulder-floored
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rift at the base of French Connection II. After a trip back to the surface
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for some rope, Mark D traversed across the rift into a continuation on the
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opposite side - this section was not virgin, with a single footprint
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visible, but the route up and the person responsible were not obvious.
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Virgin section is Robinson Crusoe passage, continuation is Man Friday
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Passage. The [??] chokes quickly but draughts strongly - probably underneath
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the Rabbit Warren.
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<p>Whilst we surveyed, Mark D had rigged Roll of the Dice (a 35m pitch with
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3 rebelays) to a 20m pitch to a hading rift (undescended).
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<p>T/U 5½ hours
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<a id="id1991-161c-2">6/7/91 | 161c</a> | Mark D, Fran, Ian H
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<p>Started rigging Roll of the Dice, problems again with a different bolt
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driver.... Found a French bolt and attempted to rig off this, but the bolt
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was poor and is in a crap place. By then Fran and Ian were both v. cold so
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an exit was made. T/U 4 hours.
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<a id="id1991-182-8">12/7/91 | Puffball</a> | Mark D, Jon W
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<p>Push at end of Puffball got off to a poor start at the planning start. We
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had two hangers and very few spits. This was solved by carrying down lots of
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LADDERS (hee hee !) and making some rope slings from a knobend of SRT rope.
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<p>Arrived at the end after 2 hours of steady caving and rerigged the last
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pitch which had had a knot change on it. A nice natural belay got us down
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the second half into a small chamber. From here a small 10' drop leads into
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a largish passage. This ended in an area of breakdown where a 20' ladder was
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used, popping out into another shaft series. Our second hanger was used to
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keep the ladders out of the water; we left "Traditional Style
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Pitches" still going. T/U 8½ hours
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<p><a href="#id1991-182-7">Previous trip</a> /
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<p><a id="id1991-182-7">10/7/91 | Puffball</a> | Tony, Del, Julian H, <u>Juliette</u>
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Tony
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Del [big cartoon]
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Julian H
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<u>Juliette</u>
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11 -> 9½<br>
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= 10½ hrs
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<p>On an overcast day the trip began in the light of, I quote
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[from <a href="#id1991-182-6">previous trip</a>, Ed.] "In a
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fair rain puffball was wettish, but showed no signs of being
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dangerous".
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<p>Rowdy riggers Kelly and Haines wham in 7 bolts (hand drilled due to
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technophobia). Haines manages to knock off all but one tooth of the spit
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using fat bastard lumpling hammer.
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<p>Sleazy surveyors Töny Melöné and Del-a logus-legman take
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on the records bottom of shell pitch. Töny's keen eye and Del-a
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Microdiagrames bounce on down for 5/6 hrs [small graphic]
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<p>At the end of their rope, and still without hearing the 'Sleazers' we
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decide to tie the ropes together. Lady incomptance suggests this:-<br>
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[graphic of two linked figure-8s, total length > 1ft]<br>
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(Do <u>knot</u> do this.)
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<p>[the Dougherty supervariation is:-<br>
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[graphic of a reef knot with two stoppers, and a dirty great "safety
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loop" on the downward side. allows you to undo it]
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<p>After 15 minutes Juliette is down and Julian is tacking - Fat Knot Fruity
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- with some flow of suitable abuse.
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<p>Meanwhile the surveyors can hear us coming back up the rift .... or not
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.... the thundering increase, even Del knows Juliette's knot that fat ....
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and are running for the rift, sit and whatch a fountain emerge from the top
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of pitch.
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<p>Having also heard this gradual roaring build, dared not mention it to
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each other not wishing to induce panic<br>
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<br>Julian by calmly proclaiming that he might start going up and Juliette
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by plastering herself against the wall and preparing for certain death in
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the form of an Indiana Jones style tidal wave (with rocks) [almost
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certainly]. It's arrival was in fact a slight anticlimax in comparison to
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this.
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<p><u>Advice box</u> In this situation have a code of shouts or whistles
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because once the flood is upon you you will hear precisely fuck all.
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<p>Meeting Del and Tony was a relief, especially as Tony had a waterproof
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oversuit and was made to go last and prussik <u>in</u> the water.
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<p>In summary, from the top of 'Traditional Style' pitches to the entrance
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after 3 hrs torrential rain are possible, the rebelays and deviations are
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out of the water. But you will be <u>totally</u> soaked.
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<p>Below this the water can only <u>increase</u>. The mud mark on the rift
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above Thundering pitch is half way up the rift. So the answer is :- Only go
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in clear not thundery weather. Rigg <u>well</u> out of the water.
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<a id="id1991-182-1">4/7/91 | 1st expo caving trip. 1991 !!</a> | Del, Juliette, Julian H, John
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<p>Thursday 4th July 1991 T/U : 3½ hours
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<p>Del, Juliette, Julian H, John
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<p>Initial exploration of 'Puffball' 182
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<p>All walked up from base camp with kit, then caved. Spent ¾ hour or
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so finding a route across limestone and bunde to the hole and building
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cairns. Fairly loose boulder slope into cave below snow at the entrance.
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Quite a loose rift continues and can be traversed high up. A ladder was
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fixed to indicate the way on, but it is easier to climb down and only use
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the top 6 rungs or so. Sharp narrow rift continues for 10 mins to a 10m (?)
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pitch. Short bit of rift at the bottom to top of next pitch (not rigged).
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Juliette and John surveyed into the cave.
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<p><a href="../1990/log.htm#id1990-182-2">Previous trip</a> (last year) /
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<a id="id1991-182-3">6/7/91</a> | Puffball | Del, Juliette, Julian H, Mark M
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<p>Mark rerigged the pitch after Shell Pitch then continued down a clean
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washed waterfall type pitch. Several rebelays/deviations were put in his
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route. This same shaft was followed down until it eventually ended with a
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very small route on; probably c 50m. By going up around 7m and penduluming
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across into a narrow rift, another pitch was found but not rigged. Quite a
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cold trip, too many people and too few bolts to drill simultaneously !
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<p>There is a possible lead through a rift to the right of the pitch after
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Shell Pitch (3rd pitch). A shaft continues down after a short distance.
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<p>T/U 9 hours
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<a id="id1991-182-9">12/7/91</a> | Surveying trip down Puffball | Julian H, Mark M, Julian S
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<p>Started just before the Darkroom, went along and down a couple of
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pitches. It was boring, cold, crap. Never mind.
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<p>T/U : 9½ hours
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<a id="id1991-182-2">5/7/91</a> | Pushing trip down Puffball | Tony, John, <u>Mark M</u>
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<p>When we began the pushing front was the top of what came to be called
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'Shell Pitch'. We bolted this and abseiled down. It was a lovely pitch,
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spacious and deep. At the foot of it we found a short streamway (10m)
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leading to another pitch (to be called Q8, pun on Shell) and descended to
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the very end of the rope. With the knot in the rope end up against my Stop,
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I swung around trying to place a decent bolt for a rebelay. Eventually I
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managed it and rigged another rope onto it. However, time was running short,
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so in order to get out before the light failed completely, we had to turn
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around leaving a rigged but undescended pitch !
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<p>T/U 8 hours
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<a id="id1991-161-4">13/7/91</a> | Surveying pushing trip down Kaninchenhole. S'not pitch and Burble
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and beyond | Andrew, Julian H, Mark S, Julian T, <u>Mark M</u>
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<p>.
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<p>This was really two separate trips which interacted. We set off together.
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Mark S. and Julian H. surveyed S'not pitch. They surveyed from the lower
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Y-hang bolt on the 2nd pitch via S'not to a red spot below the squeeze, past
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the campsite.
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<p>Meanwhile Julian T., Andy and myself pushed on down S'not and on to the
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start of Burble. Here Andy wanted to try a short climb to see if there was
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any useful way on that possibly by-passed the Burble crawl or else led to
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new cave. We placed a bolt for protection and eventually managed to gain a
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shelf. From here a climb up boulders led to tight, sharp passages that
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seemed to go nowhere. About 20' above the shelf a passage led off seemingly
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parallel to the Burble Crawl. However climbing at at least HS standard would
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be required to reach it, so we certainly weren't going for it without sticky
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boots and dynamic ropes. We fixed a rope up the climb. Anyhow we then went
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on through the crawl and down the Burble pitch, rigged by Wookey. [Where the
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last rebelay fell off just as I (Andy) passed it.] At the foot of this is
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another pitch as yet unrigged, probably about 15m and then choked. Also are
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at least two horizontal ways on. We went on opposite the pitch into a maze
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[the lead mine] of walking passages. There are still possible ways on here.
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We eventually reached a large chamber on the scale of Big Sainsbury's. We
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checked out quite a lot of ways on from here but have not yet got any
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definite way on. A return is certain !
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<p>Time was getting on and lights were failing so we turned back. At the
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foot of the Burble we met Mark S. and Julian H. who gave us their surveying
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gear. They then went on to the chamber while we surveyed between the top of
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a pointy boulder at the foot of the Burble pitch (about 8' right of the end
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of the rope)(carbide mark) and a ceiling pendant at the entrance to the
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chamber. We surveyed our route through the lead mine (so-called because the
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entire survey was done on 1 cm of pencil lead) and some of the dead-ends off
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from it. While we had been doing this, Julian and Mark S. were pushing a
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pitch in the big chamber. We met them in the chamber and swapped Andy for
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Mark S.
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<p>Mark S. Julian T. and myself then headed out doing a spot of surveying en
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route. Meanwhile Andy and Julian H. descended the pitch and found it to be
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choked at about -15m [now known to be Endless]. They then also headed
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out.
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<p>T/U 14 hours
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<a id="id1991-161-8">14/7/91</a> | Derig Dreamtime | Olly & Wook & Andrew & Ian H
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<p>Tipping it down so after too much festering decided to de-rig Dreamtime
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so as to at least do something useful. Checked out a potential cave on the
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normal path up, as it had water going down it - moved a couple of rocks and
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sent Olly down - it went about 3m.
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<p>At Khöhle showed Andy & Ian H a Q.M. at the start of D.time
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& told them which bit to survey/resurvey then went back to go down
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S'not. Much fannying about & ridiculous climbs down holes failed to find
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it, so we had to get Andy to show us.
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<p>Olly looked about 15m down a hole at the first corner in LH route - goes
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further (maybe another 15m) Wook look down grade 1 bit where Dave H &
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Animal had been - looked different - went further than Animal but apparently
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not as far as Dave - gave up at squeeze over block that would require gear
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removal.
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<p>Then we derigged dreamtime & got a very fat baggie which we left at
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bottom of entrance.
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<p><a id="id1991-161-7">Ian & Andy</a> started bolting QM but it was too
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wet so did a bit of survey & left.
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<p> T/U 5½ hrs (Olly & Wook) 4 hrs (Ian & Andy)
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<a id="id1991-182-10">16/7/91.</a> | pushing trip down Puffball.| Mark D, Julian H
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<p>Perfect weather, bright blue sky, no chance of flooding. Original plan
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was to push the end of Puffball as far as possible, and do as much surveying
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as possible, ie. a long trip. However, shortly after entering the cave, we
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discovered that we had about ½ a carbide stinker between us (mine was
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completely knackered and Mark's needed flicking). We decided not to go to
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the bottom (as lighting my light from Mark's would be very tedious and there
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was the possibility of complete failure of both), so we pushed the lead
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through the rift above 'Q8' pitch. After a short rift section, this opened
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into wide shafts, all clean washed. These we rigged as far as possible on
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naturals (since the bolting kits were at the bottom of the cave!), but after
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around 30m (?) the naturals ran out. We surveyed back to 'Q8' pitch and then
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came out. This lead looks very promising. It is longer than any other route
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before the 'Dark Room' and may well provide an alternative into the lower
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levels of the cave.
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<p>T/U : 4 hours
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<a id="id1991-182-11">17/7/91.| surveying, ladder de-rigging Puffball. | </a> Wookey, Julian H
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<p>After a thunderstorm just before lunchtime the weather cleared so we went
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for it. Wookey's first trip down Puffball (excl. brief look to top of first
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pitch), so nothing much happened as far as the "Dark Room". Then
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.... "Oh bloody hell, ... not again"; the flood pulse hit. We sat
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around for about 20 mins or so, had a nose down a bit of rift the other side
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of the 'Dark Room', and then decided to get out while we could, if we could.
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It was very wet, very very wet. 'Bottom Bypass' was very wet. 'Q8' was
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incredibly wet, disgustingly, unpleasantly wet. 'Shell pitch' was wettish.
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Both of us were very cold by the time we'd got out. Oh well, perhaps we'll
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manage to avoid it happening again !
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<p>T/U : 3¾ hours.
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<a id="id1991-161-9">16/7/91</a> | Kaninchenhole - Pushing-surveying trip down Burble| <p>Andrew, Julian S, <u>Mark M.</u>
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<p>Had a luverly time scrambling around in a maze of passageways leading off
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below the burble pitch in the opposite direction to Repton Chamber. We
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eventually worked out that Wookey had been there before and that it was
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possible to crawl/walk/traverse in a loop from the chamber. We also found a
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pitch at the end of a muddy passage with a 6" deep pool of water in it.
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There was a stiff breeze blowing up from the pitch so we rigged it and
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descended (with some fun caused by Andy's lousy rigging RANT !) to a
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continuing maze of rifts and passageways. This is still going strong and
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deep with at least one tight but deep pitch to be descended. On the way out
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we surveyed our loop.
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<p>Also we had a go at a climb at the head of Burble pitch. In true caving
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style I sat on the pitch head assuring Andy that I would jump off if he fell
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and thus limit the fall to FF1. He climbed up a rather cruddy mud covered
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passage to a dead-end. The longed-for Burble by-pass continues to evade us !
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<p>T/U 17 hrs
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<p>Elevation of bottom of Exhaustion
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<p>[grade 1 sketch]
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<a id="id1991-161c-4">17/7/91 | "survey" + "Pushing" trip down France</a> | Paul S, Mark D, Penny, Tony, Hugh
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<p>Entered cave at 2.34 (Pauls timing). At 2.40 someone turned the taps on,
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whilst Penny + Hugh were still at 4th + 2nd rebelays respectively. Little
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dangerous at first as loadsa loose choss brought down. Everyone down OK
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except by now cold + wet + windy.
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<p>As water showed no tendancy to drop, thus making the object of the trip
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unattainable, a retreat was proposed, seconded and carried unanimously. But
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first we took photos of the dice, of Belgium and of the phreatic tube (nice
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bit o'cave that). Also found a miserable bit of sideways crawling in mud and
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Mark went up the slope at the back.
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<p>[grade 1 plan labelled BCRA: -5]
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<p>Thence out, pitch OK in terms of safety by now but very cold hands all
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round. Marks footloops broke on the way up, which elicited absolutely zero
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sympathy.
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<p>T/U: 4 hrs
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<a id="id1991-161-15">23/7/91 | Knossus derig.</a> | Julian S, Tony, Mark S, <u>Fran</u>
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<p>(Date guessed, and Julian guessed)
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<p>Derigged Knossus wandered slowly back because we were all knackered 'cept
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for Amrk Scott. People had fun going up S'not pitch - Abandoned tackle sacks
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@ the bottom of the entrance pitch for hauling the next day.
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<p>T/U 6½ hrs
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<a id="id1991-161-5">14/7/91 | Dungeon (1)</a> | Iain M, Ian H, <u>Fran</u>
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<p>(Date guessed)
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<p>Attempted to rig Dungeon, but difficult lots of ice, no sign of previous
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bolts, probably under huge pile of snow @ the bot of the 1st pitch - aborted
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this + went for a tourist to dreamtime & hole in the roof - put in
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another bolt @ the bottom of the 3rd pitch to pull the rope onto the
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edge.
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<p>T/U 7 hrs
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<a id="id1991-161-6">15/7/91 | Dungeon (2) | Iain M, Del, <u>Fran</u></a>
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<p>(Date guessed)
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<p>Started bolting in Dungeon @ the bottom of the boulder slope in Big
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Sainsbury's. Got two bolts in. I went for a wander underneath some boulders
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and told them I'd found a four second pitch, hummm !!! so Iain went down
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having rigged off a large natural thread. Realised that people had been
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there before and having discussed it with Del realised we'd found the
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squeeze bypass and had dropped into the LH route close to the old camp. Went
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for a tourist - rigged SNOT pitch - Iain was blowing his nose down it -
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rigged the chunnel - went as far as bungalow - my light died - Iain + Del
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went as far a Knossus came back. Dels light had died by then so all three of
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us came out on one light which made life interesting !
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<p>T/U 8 hrs
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<a id="id1991-161-11">17/7/91 | Niflheim rig</a> | Mark F, Iain M, John W, <u>Fran</u>
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<p>(Date guessed)
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<p>Went down thro Butcher, Baker whilst Iain M rerigged Snot for a while.
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Mark had a few problems finding bolts - got as far as Niflheim which Iain M
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rigged when Mark bottled out sat in a pool for 1½ hrs whilst people
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pottered down there trying to find the rebelay. Came back out again with
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another dead light. Iain M made sure I wasn't in front of him - only I sussed
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rebelays on this trip @ last !
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<p>T/U 10½ hrs
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<a id="id1991-161c-5">21/7/91 | France rig, Survey</a> | Andrew, Tony, Mark S, Henri, Fran
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<p>Surveyed down from the dice thro 2 pitches, Tony felt crap [quite
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literally] & went out followed by Andy + Mark S. Me + Henri kept
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surveying a while but got bored + went out. Mark had started to rig 4th
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pitch with a lot more possible ? + depths beyond - didn't bother derigging
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until the day after. [continued <a href="#id161c-5more">later</a>]
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<p>T/U Andy:3, Tony:3, Mark S:3, Henri:5, Fran:5
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<a id="id1991-40-1">20/7/91 | Eishohle</a> | Julian S, Andrew, Henri, <u>Fran</u> + *Hans
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<p>(Date totally guessed)
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<p>After a sweltering heating daying walk (? - my brains gone !) we
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eventually got there. The crawl had iced up for the first time in years made
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it nice and slidey - got to where the pitch should be + there was a massive
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pile of snow which came as a surprise to hans but he rigged it anyway -
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using thin cord in a single fishermans as a back up + an overhand for the
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actual rope but we went off it all anyway. Fairly amazing stuff certainly
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the time to get used to crampons landed @ the bottom of a 50m pitch in a
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massive chambers with all this ice Hans was going round manically on his
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crampons occasionally Andy followed but only armed with iceaxes. Lots of ice
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incredibly pretty + fairly amazing stuff crawled up a hole + found another
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entrance normally closed. Andy went up unroped we however didn't follow +
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went back the other way had a few problems going up the slope ended up with
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Hans practically dragging us ie. bring as many jammers as possible very
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useful stuff also lost a few peoblems - me twice - Julian - 5 times
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including twice @ the top oh dear - get ones that fit - well made it out
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eventually ! Went two ways back Henri with Hans whilst me, Andy + Julian
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bubderbashed + limestoned our way back up to 161 + back - fairly knackered
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by now - not surprising really !!
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<p><a href="../1990/log.htm#id1990-40-1">Last CUCC trip here (1990)</a> /
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<a id="id1991-161-12">20/7/91 | Toddle Around Big Sainsbury's</a> | Olly, <u>Julian S</u>
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<p>Ian H told us there was this big hole near the top of Dreamtime
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("What ! Another one ? Never !). If we were feeling bored we could even
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go down and have a look. So off we ambled. Cave entrance - Faff faff stall
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(Do we really have to go caving ?) Finally summon the energy to do down.
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Make our way slowly to this amazing hole that Ian H and Andy have already
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bolted (olly - Christ, these bolts really are shit !). Undaunted by such
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things as almost zero rigging gear and almost useless bolts Olly lemmings
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off the pitch head and whizzes to the bottom of the rope, pausing only
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briefly to use his spanner cord for a deviation, only to find that the rope
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doesn't reach. Surprise, surprise, another sodding great hole that goes down
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long distances. Got bored and ambled slowly towards the entrance. Surveyed
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this bloody pitch to the (wrong) bolt on the 3rd pitch, derigged 3rd pitch.
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Then Olly decides to fetch the drill battery from the bottom of S'not pitch
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while Julian pokes around in the hole in the wall at the bottom of the 2nd
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pitch. Result ? Ten minutes later Olly returns to find Julian wedged tightly
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in some ridiculous rift that goes off long distances but is only 6 inches
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wide. (Sodding cave; pitches too big, passages too small). Julian swiftly
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extracted and by now bored cavers wander slowly out. Passage apparently runs
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parallel to Rabbit Warren. There may be a way on but lots and lots of
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boulders.
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<p>T/U 5 hrs
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<a id="id1991-161c-6">22/7/91 | Derig France |</a> Mark S, <u>Julian S</u>
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<p>"You're lying around the campsite festering. Bugger off and get the
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rope out of France."<br>
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"Sodding hell. Do we have to ?"<br>
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"Yes. Bugger off."<br>
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Normal boring derigging trip. Forget grease, fetch grease. Whizz down to
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bottom, prussik slowly out - Prussick, prussick Sod the tacklebags caught
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again. Free tacklebag prussick prussick. Repeat until caver gets bored, and
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then about ten times longer. Aargh. End result the air is turned completely
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blue as caver gets within six inches of last rebelay (France - whole armies
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of rebelays lying in wait for naive speleologist. Has anyone else ever
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noticed how there always seem to be more on the way out than on the way in.
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I always lose count - seemingly around fifteen. Anyone ever wondered how
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many different types of bolt there are in the world ? You find out down
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France. The bastard that rigged it made every sodding rebelay too tight.
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Hours staring at all the different bolts. Your dreams become filled with
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bollards, simple bends, rings and clowns all laughing at you. I swear
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there's one type that moves round the wall. Coming down - nice ledge in just
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the right place. Going up - shit my feet are six inches above the ledge and
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two feet further out ! That bloody clown's laughing at me again. Its the
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eyes following you around that really gets to me though.)
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<p>Tacklesacks - bastards. Hate cavers. Refuse to go down caves. Hate it
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when you try and take them out again. Bastards. Nothing more to say really.
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<p>One more thing. Left campsite at noon. Got back at 9:10. How long is the
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walk ?
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<p>Um yeah !
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<p>T/U 3 hrs
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20/7/91 | Prospecting up Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel ?! All day ! | Andrew, <u>Fran</u>
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<p>(Date totally guessed)
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<p>Found quite a few holes only major one was just below the summit
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terrified myself climbing down a 50ft ladder above a snowplug + loose
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boulders - refused to jump down the extra 4 ft needed to reach the bolt
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rerigged + sent Andy down went another 10ft below snow still plugged could
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be very big tho. so named 161d - thus giving us the highest entrance !
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<p><u>To</u> B Zinken 236½°<br>
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<u>To</u> Hinter SKL 37½°
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<p>About 5 mins from the summit down grass deer path on RH side of main
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(from top) gorge in bunde. Two large holes.
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20/7/91 | Prospecting | Henri, <u>Fran</u>
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<p>(Date totally guessed)
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<p>Sent Henri down a few holes - yes I don't go down ladders unless forced !
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Two 50fts going nowhere one 5m below 161c - very obvious once you remember
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where it is otherwise it takes 1½hrs ! Also a 50ft just below 161a
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ending in a 20ft high chamber. Lying by entrance pitch - mysteriously found
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Ian H gear there who knows why maybe thats where he disappeared to ?!<hr />
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<a id="id161c-5more">21/7/91 | Continuation</a> of France rig + survey | Andrew, Tony, <u>Mark S</u>, Henri, Fran
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<p><a href="#id1991-161c-5">start of this trip</a>
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<p>Pushed France down yet another pitch with several leads on which weren't
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descended because we had no rope. I descended the 4th pitch to a ledge with
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about 20m of pitch visible below through a squeeze bit with a way off to the
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right & left and at the top of the pitch a rift going 2ft so heres a
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sketch (grade 1)
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<p>[a grade 1 elevation]
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<a id="id1991-161-8a">14/7/91 | Derigging Dreamtime</a> | Wookey & <u>Olly</u>
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<p>After Wooks and Ian H had carefully put in lots of nice bolts, Fran goes
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& finds a better squeeze bypass and so team Charlie have to go pull the
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rope out again. On the way (having failed to find Snot until Andy showed us)
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we poked down a hole in LH route (goes down until free-climbing seems v
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dangerous) and crawl nearby (looks nothing like Animal's or Dave H's
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sketches). Then pulled D.T. apart.
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<p>T/U : 5½ hours
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<a id="id1991-161-14">22/7/91 | Hellgrind and everywhere | Wookey & <u>Olly</u> </a>
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<p>and 23
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<p>Survey calibration cairns - survey bottom of Snot pitch - derig rebelays
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at bottom of Niffleheim - discover and survey Trehala (off Black Logoon) -
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improve grade I survey of Hellgrind to grade II - survey Time Dilation and
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Ambidextrous - discover Repton drops into Hyper-Gamma spaces - derig Burble
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pitches and put fixed rope on Repton - remove Burble tackle to bottom of
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Knossus and tie to rope - exit v slowly - die on entrance pitch.
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<p>God it was awful ! What heroes we are .... trumble ... 'spose it's my own
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fault for having the idea in the first place. Oh hum.
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<p>T/U : 20 hrs 30 min.
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<p>P.S. We used every rigged rope in the cave except the one on French
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<a id="id1991-182-13">24/7/91 | Puffball De-rig - Second Wave.</a> | Henri & <u>Olly</u>
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<p>Got on second trip since I'd had ½ hr sleep when wave one (Wooks +
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Andy) left camp. Set alarm to 5pm & got awken by Hen at 5:30 am. Suffice
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it to say that ... God it was awful ... what heroes we are ... etc....
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<p>T/U : 8¾ hours
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<a id="id1991-161-16">25/7/91 | Derig the entrance pitch</a> | Wook & <u>Olly</u>
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<p>+ Andy Fran Henri TU 0 hrs but a hell of a lot of hauling
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<p>Everyone being crap, so I foolishly agree to do it. Sit in Wookmobile II
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in Loser car park in pouring rain and eventually go for it. Got drenched by
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the time we arrive at Top Camp - drag SRT gear to cave, descend into river
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down entrance pitch - hide carbide and tie ropes to hauling line, shiver a
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lot, prussik up and realise that the grease is on floor 20ft below curse and
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decide to ignore it. Curse continuously up and meet Wooks on ledge (stranded
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now, having no-geared down and Andy + Fran have deserted for Top camp.
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Finish prussiking & lower gear. Wookey enjoys my foot loops, cows-tails,
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etc. which are big for me. Feel hypothermic, until Wookey lends me some dry
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clothes - opposite problem to him using my SRT gear - and we go back to
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base. God it was awful ..... and so on.
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<p>T/U : Olly : 1 hr<br>
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Wookey : ½ hr - (if you can call it U/G !)
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<a id="id1991-161-10">16/7/91 | push and survey Burble | <u>Wook</u>, Gill & Henri </a>
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<p>Gill & Henri both desperately keen to go caving so I took them to
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show how awful it was. Henri came to her senses & jacked at the top of
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boulder alley.
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<p>Gill & I continued & met team Burble A surveying a new conncetion
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to Exhaustion pitch.
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<p>We went to Boulderdash & poked around & fettled Gill's carbide
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for about an hour - too full error. I find an 8m climb down through boulders
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under a drip to a severely draughting hole behind some rocks. These were
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small enough to move so I did & zoomed down some stomping passage - but
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it choked after 2 zigs (20m) turned round & wondered about draught so
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went back & following breeze led through 'obviously choked' bit to a
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sizeable room. This is a gaping QM.
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<br>T/U Wook:15 Gill:15 Henri:5.5 (Jacker)
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<p>Also poked obvious passage at end 'A'
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<p>Needs surveying & is sufficiently complex to need more thorough
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checking.
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<p>There is also a hole in the wall about 10m above A but it is pretty
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thoroughly inaccessible !
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<p>Surveying the chamber (called Boulderdash in survey - but now Repton).
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Climb down to pitch end needs some sort of aid on it cos its bloody hard.
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<p>Went out & surveyed Vom pitch on way out - to connect lead mine
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survey to Burble crawl. Called Vom as Gill felt ill all the way up.
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<p>She was totally shagged on the way out. Good but slow trip. out at 04.30
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for dawn.
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<br>T/U Wook:15 Gill:15 Henri:5.5 (Jacker)
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<a id="id1991-161-13">20/7/91 | check out LH route | <u>Wook</u> & Andrew </a>
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<p>As the Left Hand route had kindly been rigged for us by Mark F & Iain
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H we decided to get on down & have a lok. Finished & improved
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Niflheim rigging - but needs at least a deviation out of the water at the
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top.
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<p>Rigged on down into Time Dilation, p6 with totally shit get on/off. Then
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climb down to short p7. Both these have been left rigged so you can get into
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LH route. French connection has also been rigged so D&S will also get you
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there.
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<p>Gave up on roof bolt & wazzed down on natural to poke whilst Andy
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finished off bolt. Pushed a very unlikely tube & finally dropped into
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Wobbling - hooray - didn't have to go back up Niflheim if it rained (which
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it did as soon as we started the survey). Had compass failure after 9 legs
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so boogied on out.
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<p>Andy reckons he started up Knossus at 02.00 - I reckon he did it at 02.29
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- he got out at 03.10 - I had a baggy & got out 05.03 he took 1 hr 10 -
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I took 2 hrs 20. After waiting an hour & 20 mins at the ent. (04.30)
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Andy decided I had died & called out Mark S, Olly & Tony. I was thus
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somewhat surprised when people turned up at 5.45 am - apparently to go
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caving ! There was much ranting but I had 2 hours to spare on my call out so
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I maintain it wasn't my fault - I can't help it if Andy is [illegible],
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although quite where the extra ½ hour went in Knossus I have no
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idea.
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<p>T/U: 15 hrs
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<a id="id1991-182-12">23/7/91 | Puffball derig - 1st Wave |</a> Andrew & <u>Wook</u>
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<p>Henry & co came back from eishohle reporting thunderstorm the next
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day (afternoon) so it was obviously necessary to derig puffball immediately.
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<p>Andy & Henry volunteered for 1st team but it was reckoned that Henry
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dragging a baggy all the way from the bottom would have an unfairly hard
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time so that meant Wook or Olly: Wooks had had 2½ hours sleep since
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getting out at midday so he got the job,
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<p>Went to go caving before realising that I had forgotten my oversuit. Met
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Tony halfway back with oversuit (& wellies !). Underground by 10.30 (pm)!
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<p>Zoomed down to the end to laugh at ladders. Too many tacklebags and too
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much gear made for a slow exit. Met Henry & Olly at 1st pitch. T. Bags
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were bastards, esp. in Q.S.C. & Tarzan's Folly. We were so fuckin' 'ard
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- shifted about 40 kilos of gear out (& my bag was heaviest). Buy some
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small T sacks next year.
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<p>T/U 10 hrs (30 hrs caving out of 42) & I was hardly tired at all.
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