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Surface Prospecting
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<p>Weather calm, wind speed force 0.1, 13° 48' W, 47° 30' N
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<p>Mike M, Mark, Stefan, Chris, Gavin + Brian
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<p>Got away about midday after a long morning recovering from the all-night
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drives.
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<p>Toll road guy is the same as last year and we are getting some discount
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to be negotiated from "Die Boss". It'll be free cars and the
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children's rate for the rest of us. Got to the top to the surprise of the
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car owners, such little farts in their thrusting pistons. PS. The banana
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ejaculated all over the car park.
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<p>Walked along Stogerweg to beyond 115 and 113 and prospected up and down.
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Cairn marks climb up to draughting hole which is being dug out, 150 -
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Bananahöhle if it gets to 150m. So far dug in about 10 feet and it
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draughts a gale. Further along prospected above existing cairn to a couple
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of non-draughting holes. Both are at base of 30 ft cliff, one goes up about
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6m, no draught, second is tight entrance to undescended pitch (15-20 ft ?).
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Probably not worth pushing.
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<p>Lots less water in streams on way to plateau - hooray.
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<p>Phew, what a scorcher.
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<p>Brian.<hr>
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<a name="1985-142-1">Late the same day !</a> Team F...ing heroes.
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<p>Members - Mike M, Mark, Gavin, Tina, Stef.
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Time underground 6¾ hours.
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<p>Found our way to 142 in the dark. Underground @ 11.45 pm (on the night
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before Gavin's birthday). Objective - SRT practice for us SRT novices, &
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looking for connections off Big Chamber. No problems getting there - tho'
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some "frig-rigging" 'cos our ropes were too short. Mike found
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something, & Gavin and Mark did some messing around - see later.
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<p>Route back taken at some speed - all found the strain of 24 hrs awake
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& walk back over dawning plateau NOT appreciated !
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<p>Out of cave ~ 6.00. Back at car ~ 7.00 (Mon)
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<p>Mike M's bit - Explored branch of 142 chamber nearest rest of cave
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system. Desperate climb up hanging death of loose shattered rock. Approx 50
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ft up - ducked under slab approx 40 ft x 5 ft x 15 ft. Intersects cross-rift
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on more solid rock. Still awkward climbing up to Balcony (higher than pitch
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takeoff). Passed sandy shelf (Dogger Bank), continue up, then down to
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Boulder in connection <illegible> 41, 142.
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<p>See sketch over - to be compared with survey later. NB - high point may
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be higher than entrance of 41.
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<p>[ scrappy sketch with lots of annotation - to be scanned ]
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<p>Upper branch of chamber explored down by Mark & Gavin, a small rift
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was found at bottom, but tight and no draught. Many spaces through boulder
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choke. Almost no chance of these leading to an unblocked floor level exit.
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Possible phreatic level 30 ft up terminal wall - not climbed to. Little
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chance of worthwhile connection.
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<p>NB. Boulder choke loose and dodgy.
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<p><a href="../1984/log.htm#1984-142-6">Previous trip</a> (last year) /
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<a href="#1985-142-2">Next trip</a>
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<a name="1985-144-1">Monday 29th June</a>
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x x x x x x x
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x FREE SCHNAPPS x
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x x x x x x x</pre>
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<p>Brian, Mike R, Chris down 144
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<p>Arrived in the car park about midday. Took a leisurely (!) two hours to
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the vicinity of the cave. Another 1½ hours Bunde-bashing to find the
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bloody thing. Despite being pretty pissed off by this stage, we decided it
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was the hole and set off down (about 4.30). Brian went first to rig the
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first pitch, and do some gardening. I sat at the top of the entrance, and
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did some more gardening (Oops, sorry Brian). Got down first pitch, decided
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it wanted a ladder. Rigged and gardened second pitch. Decided it wanted more
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gardening when Brian nearly took half the pitch-head down with him. Hauled
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up the ropes and exitted. Looked a bit overcast, so we hurried back -
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finished the walk at a dead run. Time down 90 mins - total depth 15m !
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<p><a href="../1983/log.htm#1983-144-6">Previous trip</a> (1983) /
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<a href="#1985-144-2">Next trip</a>
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BUNDE BASHING BOYS
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<p>Brian, Stef, Mark went off to carry on "pushing" 150. Stef got
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bored waiting while Brian was digging and wandered off - he found a hole but
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after coming back most pleased he couldn't find it but found a draughting
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hole, (151 ?) and another. 151 (with a light) was a chamber (30 ft high, 10
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ft square) with a draughting tight rift going out. Definitely worth a
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squeeze in kit.
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<p>Mark's bored wandering found a couple of holes that proved choked, a big
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50 ft pitch with snow at the bottom (probably choked) and a 30 ft shaft that
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I swore draughted up - worth another trip.
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<p>The area (above the 150 marker, about the same distance beyond '88' as
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Windloch to '88' along Stogerweg) is well covered with many ravines/rifts
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about 100m up from path (distance along ground). Very promising, dozens of
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holes, some MUST go.
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<p>150 was cleared by Brian after 1½ hrs digging. The rift beyond was
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too small to follow. F--K.<hr>
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<a name="1985-144-2">Meanwhile, back at 144</a> : Chris and Mike R.
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<p>All very efficient so we got away rather late and then went shopping 'cos
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Chris had forgotten his wellies (what's new). Zapped from car park to the
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cave in about one hour. Wasted most of an hour removing choss and a large
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piece of hanging death. After that it got rather slow because of dubious
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anchors - so we put in a few more dubious anchors of our own. Finally
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reached the 50 cm triangular slot, and decided that bier and scoff were more
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interesting, so exitted a.s.a.p. to discover that it was raining. Got very
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wet on the walk back.
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<p>Underground ~ 6 hrs.
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<p>(Short write up so I can go to bed !)
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<p><a href="#1985-144-1">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-144-3">Next trip</a>
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<hr>
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<a name="1985-142-2">142 Tuesday</a> - see new book
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<p>[slight hiatus ?]
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<p>Team 142
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<p>Down 142 again - this time surveying. Out with the compass and
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clino-thingy that you can almost read the numbers of ! Pity about my light
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going dim and spending most of the time on pilot light. Heard a really loud
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gush that sounded like a huge waterfall and ended up being a rather fast
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drip that had increased a bit when it rained on top. Took quite a lot of
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"Hero pose" piccies. A good trip ~ 8 hrs underground.
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<p>Team Mike M, Gavin, Tina.
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<p><a href="#1985-142-1">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-142-3">Next trip</a>
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Wednesday 31 July
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<p>Rest day for some - Nothing happened - It rained.
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<p>Wrote the following song !! [ song in file "Song" ]
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<p>P.S. Gavin woke up !!<hr>
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<a name="1985-144-3">Brian, Mark, Stef. - 144</a>
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<p>Up at 7.00 am, down at 10.00 am. Slow descent due to inexperience of
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myself and Mark. Brian replaced naff bolt. Mark put in one of his own at
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triangular slot. I put in another bolt at triangular slot (dropping and
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losing spanner). Next pitches quickly rigged to bottom at mud wall level.
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Quick break for food - Mark went exploring (see later) and made bid for
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"Golden Boot". Brian had a quick look at phreatic level - strongly
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draughting downward passage to left leads to streamway and later water
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features - includes stalactite - "frig-rig" pitch to streamway.
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This leads to ramp. Needs another trip to determine if this passage goes.
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Started slow ascent - again due to us SRT novices, but speeded up noticeably
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towards end.
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<p>Came out ~ 8.30. Dark before reached car park. Heavy rain, difficult
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drive. Arrived back ~ 10.20.
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<p>Time underground ~ 10½ hrs.
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<p>144 phreatic extension - someone sketch please.
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<p><a href="#1985-144-2">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-144-4">Next trip</a>
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<hr>
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<a name="1985-144-4">[a title line missing ?]</a>
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<p>Followed the phreatic team - got underground at 12.40. Caught the others
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in 3 hours, followed them down to the "Yellow Brick Road" (path
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across chamber above Mud Wall pitch). We had a look in a few of the tubes
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leading up, but nothing went. Then Mark Roddick spotted a draughting hole in
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the floor (unpleasantly tight, a bit NE of the hole leading to the Mud Wall
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pitch). Mark managed to fall down it, and by sheer luck hit the floor (and
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bounced) after only ten feet.
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<p>This proved to be a bypass to the Mud Wall traverse. We then carried on
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SW, through boulder-strewn chambers, to a chamber which had a ramp going
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down SE at 45°, and a climb up continuing SW.
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<p>Mike went 20m down the ramp, I worked on the climb. After we'd put in two
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bolts, ripped off a natural belay, and fallen twice, we got up, and about
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10m on and 6m up we came to an aven with an exposed free climb up, and a
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hole in the floor leading to a pitch 1m in diameter, at the bottom of which
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a stream could be heard. Since we'd run out of energy and tackle, we
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<p> [ photocopy runs out before the write up did ]
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<p>Time down 11 hours.
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<p><a href="#1985-144-3">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-144-5">Next trip</a>
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<hr>
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1.8.85 Tina, Gavin and Mike M. Surface prospecting etc.
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<p>150, 151. Both looked at again by MM. Conclusions : the same.
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<p>NB 151. - see grade 1 survey below.
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<p>[ scrappy sketch which would seem to be a surface plan, mainly ]<hr>
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1.8.85
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<p>152 time underground 1½ hrs.
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<p>New cave discovered near 151. Draught a gale. Drops down 8m pitch to snow
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ledge then down snow slope to 20m depth. Down further 1.5m climb and past
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ice formation. Turn left down 45° scree, squeeze behind boulder and drop
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down hole into rift with boulder floor. Reach T junction at chamber with 3
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jammed boulders, turn right to 2nd pitch, approx 8m.<hr>
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152 PUSH - GAVIN, MARK, STEF
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<p>Time down 8 hrs
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<p>Day started out wet, so not underground until ~ 5 pm. Took ropes and 2 x
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bolting kits, anchors etc. & food.
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<p>Rigged second pitch on Mike's bolts, approx 3m into small chamber, exit
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along short rift, widening and back into rift for 3rd pitch. Rigged in drip,
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back up/traverse line for 1½ m drop just before 4m pitch.
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<p>Here enters one into Dump Chamber. To left is blocked tight passage, to
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right a small exit into large rift, high, 10 ft wide, full of very unstable
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scree and boulders - Boulder Alley. 30m at 45° brings into chamber, a
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hole in the boulder choke drops 3m to floor of chamber, climb over boulders
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ahead and cross a dodgy traverse over a bridge, down onto floor and down
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very unstable slope to exit, scramble down 2m through boulders in an 'S'
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shape into rift.
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<p>Along a few metres is a 3m pitch, rigged with 2 calcite bolts; small
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chamber, rift. Exit to right, a few more metres to pitch (3m), down rift,
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tight-ish. Along rift in same direction, over a drop (2m) and along rift,
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keyhole shape, stay high (same level as pitch bottom).
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<p>2m drop, 3m along is 4m pitch, put wire belay round rock at top of small
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drop to give handline to pitch head.
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<p>Mud floor, phreatic tube leads up, 1½ m diameter, mud floor. Cross
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undescended rift at right angles, up over top of mud heap, tube
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<p>[ two lines (?) missing from bottom and top edges of photocopy ]
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<p>keyhole rift, runs into top of pitch - run out of tackle, turned around
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and left, no hassle except Stef's dump in Dump Chamber really stank.
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<p>NB. Boulder Alley and Boulder Chamber should be crossed singly as rocks
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very unstable & fall spontaneously.<hr>
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Friday - MM, CS, TW to Salzburg to collect Caroline.<hr>
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152 Push : Chris & Tina
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<p>Got through all the bits the other lot rigged and then to the biggest
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pitch. A horrid traverse over a ~25m pitch, which was really horrid on the
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way back up. At the bottom of the pitch was a longish traverse that was
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awkward but not dangerous. The way we went ended. On the way we saw a few
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places to squeeze down to the streamway. The couple of draughting passages
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we found were too tight.
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<p>The first few pitches (descended the day before) are lots longer than
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they reckoned.<hr>
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Surface survey P4 to 152 via 151, 150, Caroline Smith and Mike M.
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<p>Survey Team, Mark + Brian
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<p>Went down 152 to re-rig where necessary and survey out. Chris's pitch was
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examined and found wanting in most things pitches need - like belays. Two
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bolts put in, one by Brian put in by 6' 4" back contorted into pitch
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head, Mark's midget frame inserted one in a few minutes - and it was all the
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way in. Said farewell to Mike and Gavin grunting and groaning in the rift.
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Surveyed out in five hours plus took a few photos of the formations and some
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very nice moonmilk in Boulder Chamber. Surveyed in 40 legs. Time in 8 p.m.
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4/8, out 6 a.m. 5/8. Time underground 10 hours.
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<p>Brian.<hr>
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Sunday/Monday 4/5 August. 152 push. Time down 11 hours.
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<p>Gavin + Mike M.
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<p>Looked at the bits Chris described and they don't go ! But we did find
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the way on ! (Over 1st 3m drop as described previously. Follow rift down to
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pitch with squeeze at top (~25-30m)). Your guess as to what happens next
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probably is as good as mine due to glow-worm syndrome. NB Rig is silly - Two
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very useless bolts (but they do take a shock load). Flake halfway down has
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to be respected !!<hr>
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<a name="1985-144-5">144 - Food Dump</a> & push for 41 connection.
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<p>Mike R, Chris, Stefan.
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<p>Up early (despite night with Austrian Cavers), but others coming back
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etc. meant that we didn't reach car park until 12.00 - down at bottom of big
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pitch ~ 2.00 - dumped food, quick brew of tea. Chris had forgotten furry
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suit, so did in my overtrousers + sweater.
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<p>Down Roddick's Dive (ugh - mud squeeze - bastard coming out) & route
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followed earlier. Then down ramp lined but not necessary. Tape taken, &
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compass - approximate metres clocked off. Through large rift - under
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boulders (Chris did traverse over on way back) - past pitch (Chris descended
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but draught none - explore only if other route closes) - way on leads to
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hairy cross over large drop, then on past mud/soil slopes and sharp rock to
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tall chamber & ~20m pitch - IS THIS 41 ? Only time will tell. Not having
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time, we came back - further push scheduled for tomorrow.
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<p>(On the way back it rained.)
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<p>Underground 6½ hours.
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<p><a href="#1985-144-4">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-144-6">Next trip</a>
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<a name="1985-144-6">Wednesday</a> - pissed down again.
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<p>Team Super-Hero - Go for it (Mike M., Mark, Chris)
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<p>We decided to go for the connection 144 - Stellerweg, and survey it
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(despite the rain, sleet, snow). Got under ~ 2.00 pm cold and wet - it was
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sleeting/snowing quite hard on top. Reached Yellow Brick Road, had a cup of
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tea + photo session, shifted the food dump through the Dive to the bottom of
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the ramp. Decided the best route was the traverse over the pit then looked
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at the pitch where we stopped before. We were just bolting it when Mike
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found the bypass, and the next pitch. We decided to go and celebrate this
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with some soup, then we came back to bolt while Mike explored some ramps. I
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(wearing waterproofs) explored the tube that the stream went down and found
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a fine wet bypass (probably dry normally - the whole cave was awash today
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with streams never seen before - it was also bloody cold - Mike wore his
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Damart undies, I wore waterproofs and Mark wrapped a space blanket around
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himself and we were still BLOODY FREEZING). We found a streamway - I went
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downstream, Mark went upstream. Mark found a dropped date wrapper, and we
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knew we had a connection. It wasn't where we expected, however, and Mike
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didn't recognise it. However, we are into Stellerweg (we surveyed out)
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giving total -972m.
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<p>Time down 18 hours.
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<p><a href="#1985-144-5">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#1985-144-7">Last trip</a>
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<a name="1985-144-7">Thursday.</a> Light drizzle. 144 pointless trip.
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<p>Mike R, Tina, Gavin, Stef + Brian - yes, that many and a sure fire recipe
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for disaster. First Mike forgot his gloves. Arrived at cave, underground 8
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pm. Stef and I abbed to Yellow Brick Road then waited an hour for the
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others. Would have had tea but no stove ! Bastards. All together then M + S
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zapped off to detackle connection and bring stove. Gavin tried Roddick's
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Dive, down in 2 minutes, "That idiot should be dead" came out of
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hole. Gavin wanted to go down and back for experience. The return took him
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25 minutes - some photos were taken. Had a look downstream and ramp at foot
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of 11m pitch. Decided we needed a rope. Meanwhile M + S return so time for
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tea. Milk and mud sir ? One lump or two ? Gavin played with acetylene and
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flames to warm us up.
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<p>Now party split in two. Gavin and Stef out in drama and style - see
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later. B M T descended rift about 20m to really shitty layered mud ramp.
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Very nasty indeed, loose and horrible. Went out on the stopping service,
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4½ hours, oh God, lets not talk about it. Just say we got back.
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<p>Team 'Freeze', Gavin & Stef set off 1.00 am. I'd just passed the
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triangular slot when I realised no sign of Gavin. Abseiled back down the
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pitch and caught up with him. A few helpful hints, and off we went again. I
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stayed 1/2 pitches ahead until my lamp died, then had to go for it, leaving
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Gavin to his own devices. Out 4.00 am. Quick dump into the bivvy bag. Gavin
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out 5.30. Off at 6.00. Back at car at 7.00ish.
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<p>Time u/g : Stef 8, BMT 11 hrs, Gavin 9½
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<p>Mike's glow-worm is contagious.
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<p><a href="#1985-144-6">Previous trip</a>
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152 detackle Stef, Mark
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<p>Down at 2 pm, down to hole in floor above big pitch, ladders down, self
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line up.
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<p>Drip furrow down 4" rift, after 55 ft furrow moves 6 ft sideways,
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therefore impossible to follow.
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<p>Brought out tackle and rubbish left over from last trip (next in log)
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& detackled, tiring as bags heavy - out for failing light, 8.45.
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<p>Time underground 6¾ hours.<hr>
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[ title line missing from photocopy ]
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<p>This will be written up when Chris has finally got Wild Bill Huckup to
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fuck his horse !
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<p>Well, here we are 24 hours later and this is Mike writing it up - Chris
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is still trying to make ends meet. So we set off to push onwards. Got in
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efficiently, and zapped down to the bottom of the big pitch.
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<p>Picked up f*****g big tackle bag and manoeuvered it to the end of the
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rift by dint of muscle power and cursing. Were duly horrified by the bolts
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at the head of Suicide pot. Went down anyway and - What did Chris find ? -
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an anchor !
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<p>Someone has been here before ! So we dragged the bag back up the pitch
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(it got stuck) and decided to survey back - only I kicked the tape down a
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hole.
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<p>Replanned - we'd take the tackle back. Unfortunately, in a fit of
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enthusiasm and luck the tape was recovered, so we surveyed it as well. Just
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like Yorkshire - tight.
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<p>Then we went out. Underground 8¼ hours.
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<p>Mike the Animal.<hr>
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The following word is included in the journal for completeness :
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"AARDVARK"<hr>
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<a name="1985-142-3">Sunday evening</a>
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<p>142 - Survey large chamber and play with magnesium ribbon trip.
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<p>Team Gavin, Animal, Chris, Tina
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<p>Down during the early evening after a good deal of jacking possibility
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but soon the sunshine was exchanged for the colder delights of 142. It did
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not take long to reach the pitches and after some belaying practice we were
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soon down and playing with magnesium ribbon procured from the previous trip
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to Eishöhle. The main chamber is extremely impressive. A full survey of
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the chamber was subsequently carried out with a sighting of a bat by Tina
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and a small amount of exploration in a possible phreatic lead from the
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chamber which unfortunately blocked. The return to the surface was eventful
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in that, although Tina and Chris left the others derigging the pitches, they
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did not reach the surface until ½ hour later !
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<p>Time Underground
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<p> 8 hours Animal + Gavin
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<br> 8½ hours Chris + Tina
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<br>[ another line vapourised ]
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<p><a href="#1985-142-2">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="../1996/log.htm#1996-142-1">Next trip</a> not for 11 years !
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<hr>
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Team Animal, Stef, Mark
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<p>Walked up with team "Survey"/"Prospect" who would
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bring back 152 tackle.
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<p>Went swiftly down to bottom and collected a BIG ! bag of tackle and
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started out.
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<p>Stef's light failed and had to go out from big pitch on a dying backup.
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<p>I dropped a pulley and crab down one pitch, ab back down, wander, wander,
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found them and back up. Mike for his part left the pulley on ledge of big
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pitch, so that gave him a chance of extra prussikking.
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<p>That fucking cave is always the wrong temp ! When I survey & am
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inactive the bastard blows out, a sweating hot detackling trip, it blows hot
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air in from the bunde.<hr>
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[ another line vapourised ]
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<p>Chris + Tina
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<p>Left the car park at 9.45
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<p>Met some Germans on our way up, who offered us a tourist trip down
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Schwarzmooskogel ice cave. Probably worth doing next year - you need
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crampons.
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<p>Dumped some gear at the top and went prospecting. Found 153 (dug out some
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loose boulders in the corner and went through for a look round), then went
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off to look at Tina's promising area. Found 154 instead. There's a biggish
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chamber just inside, with daylight entering in two or three places. First
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way in was climbing down the rift below the survey mark, and I
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(accidentally) found a different way out. Next we found 155 - a huge snow
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plug. You can go through a slit in the rock on the RHS, or down the snow
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plug and across the ice, which slopes down in one corner, possibly down a
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pitch. The other slot probably drops into the same chamber. This cave may
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not go, but we couldn't tell without a line. In fact, all three caves need a
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line to go further.
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<p>We then started surveying back, 155 -> 154 no problem, but we'd lost
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153. We set out surveying to it anyway, but after about 4 legs realised we
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were going in the opposite direction. Eventually reached 153, continued on
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towards the nipple. Made a permanent mark (TC, on slab in gulley) and headed
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for home because it was getting late. Reached 144 as daylight was starting
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to go, packed up all the tackle left for us, by which time it was pretty
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dark, then set off. In 5-10 minutes it was completely dark, so the journey
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down was slow, accompanied by much swearing (1¼ hours to the
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traverse) at which point team Dachstein met us (Stef, Mike, Mark). Thank
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you. Sadly, they'd forgotten to cook our dinner.
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<p>[ The rest of the log book is taken up with transcribed survey notes ]
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<a href="report.htm">Austria 1985</a><br>
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<a href="bdseye.htm">A Bird's Eye View</a>, Tina White<br>
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