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<p>The first part of the log is traditionally taken up by the journey
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out.<br>If this is of no interest, here is a link <a href="#id1997-161-1">to
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the caving</a>!
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<h1>IN REQUIEM</h1>
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It was pissing down all over Europe...
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<h2>MEANWHILE, BACK AT CAMBRIDGE:-</h2>
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TEAM MOMENTUM II... <u>MikeTA</u> , Sam , DaveH 18/19 july 1997
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<p>Started from York with Tina'n'Mike and quite a lot of not-very well packed
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gear, and drove to pick up Dave, thence to Sam's with even more even more
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crapply packed gear. Sam was out but a quick look through his bedroom window
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showed a huge pile of even more gear. General opinion was that it wouldn't
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all fit but Tina started from the position that it would so it did
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<p>[pic of estate car with stuff on roof with 15 degree elevation to
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road]
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<p>with Tina and Sam on ½ back seat.
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<p>Uneventful journey to chunnel except for fuzz in car who were heard to say
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'bloody hell'.
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<p>Unloaded Tina and quite a lot on Clive who was going to France to go gorge
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bashing.
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<p>On the shuttle Mike'n'Dave went to see Tony'n'Becka who were there as
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well; on the way back met Sam who asked if Mike had the keys 'cos he'd locked
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the Astra. Say no more so Dave kicked a rear quarter light in. Sam is now
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candidate for expo fuckwit of the year. Apart from that and the fact that it
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pissed down almost continuously ( and we saw two standard & one very
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mangled crash) the journey was pretty eneventful. T/T 14½ hours
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<hr />
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<p>Team Raspberry Ripple - TonyR + <u>Becka</u> 18/19 July 97
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<p>All v. civilised, even tho' I had shitloads of gear there was only the two
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of us, so it all fitted. Saw Clive et al at Dover, & Mike et al (who
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ignored us) & apparently Jeremy was hanging around in the melee, but we
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didn't see him. Did the chunnel, & Mike + Dave came along to say hi + I
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splashed raspberry juice all over Tony's car. Oh, and we'd all brought a
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litre of single malt so we were OK. We drove & swapped & drove +
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swapped + drove... It was horrible & v._v_ wet. At about 4am it got
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light, but it was still wet. We did the scenic tour north of Salzburg -
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Tharau, Mondsee,??, Mendre & finally [scribble] Wolfgangzee. That took an
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hour in the rain. So are we going to be 1st, 2nd or 3rd (asked Tony?) 2nd if
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we're lucky, MikeTA will have floored it + Adam's probably beat us too. We
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were first. Said hi to Karin, shopped in Bad Aussee & MikeTA arrived.
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Beers in Hildes. I crashed, but the single malt was cracked open.
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<p>two trips from all five of us to 19/9 Top Camp with our caving gear +
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Shit. Even managed to be dry on the 2nd.
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<p>PM - Germans dropped by for a couple of hours & a couple of beers.
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They've re-surveyed our original Stellerweg stuff. Gave them a whisky taster
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sesh then they went + we finished the 2nd crate of beer, dried our boots +
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sang (no ghetto blaster).
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<p>DRIVE-IN Jon Barker, Adam Cooper + Gear in a dodgy van.
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<p>Hull- Rotterdam crossing -> pleasant drive 'cos you can get some real
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sleep. Relatively uneventful drive taking ~15hrs, except 1) the Dutch are
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crap at signing anywhere outside Holland which makes getting into Germany
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tricky. 2) Coffee beans work at keeping a driver lively.
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<a id="id1997-161-1">Wheelchair</a> Access 21/7/97
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<br>Team 1: <u>Sam</u>, Dave, Mike TA
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<br>Team 2: Becka, Tony, Mike TA (again)
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<br>T/U 5 hours
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<p>With a hoard of going leads there was lots for all to do (all five of
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us). After a certain amount of whinging about the scrofulous route in we
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were at the pushing ...{Dave gave me a beer at this point} ... front.
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Through a squeeze to the left there was a pitch with a traverse over the
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top (apparently pushed by CJD last year), I traversed over the pitch, up
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a climb, over another pitch and errr... ummm... it all got a bit
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difficult, but carried on.
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<p>[ sketch plan showing location of survey point marked with "M" ]
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<p>Having given up the traverse I then proceeded to hammer a spit in, 1/3
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of the way in - ping, the rock fell to pieces. The second hole worked
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and I derigged the traverse and rigged the pitch (1st one), This dropped
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7m and ended in a blind, choked rift.
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<p>Meanwhile the other team (team 2) were rigging down the right-hand pitch
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series, a steeply descending ramp, This was rigged to an awkward squeeze
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constriction ~20m whereupon they ran out of rope, Mike, having carefully
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forgotten his harness earlier on in the trip, then proceeded to leave
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his jammers at the top of the ramp series (chalk one up for the Fuckwit
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Tally).
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<p>Soon it was deemed to be 'Time to Go' and we exited the cave. Most
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people walked back to top camp - however, Dave and I decided to go 'off
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piste' and had an entertaining time on the Ht. Schwartzmoos Kgl. (see
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separate write-up when I get round to it).
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<p><a href="../1996/log.htm#id1996-161-63">Previous trip (1996)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-3">Next trip</a>
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-161-2">Where the Wind Blows</a> 23/07/97
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<br>Tony, Sam, <u>Becka</u>
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<br>T/U 5 hours
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<p>Pootled along to Where the Wind Blows, <u>swearing</u> loudly at last
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years deriggers, who had removed all the sodding handlines (but hadn't
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detackled things like the big wet loose pitch down Alternative
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Universe). We skipped one handline, cut our rope for the next two, then
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spent <u>ages</u> faffing at the little up-climb before No Utility Belt
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Required, 'cos the bastards had taken the rope off that <u>too</u>, for
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no good reason, and our rope wasn't long enough. We had now used all our
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rope, and I'd misheard how many bits we'd have to bring and we hadn't
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expected <u>all</u> the handlines to be derigged. To the question marks
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at the end of Where the Wind Blows, I wriggled down the slot on the
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left, 5m before the choked end.
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<p>[ sketch plan with much annotation ]
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<p>I went left, up a vertical squeeze to a small chamber then up another
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vertical squeeze (Sam first) and a step up and Sam went up a 4m climb to
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look into a <u>big</u> echoey vertical aven. He couldn't see anything
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obvious off it.
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<p>Tony + Sam rigged the little pitch down the rift on the R after
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going through the slot on the L (by dint of sending Sam <u>back</u>
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to derig the bloody up-climb to fetch the rope), Pitch to small chamber,
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~3m down, then in one corner a tight rift going off (needs
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<u>hammering</u>) widens out below to ?20m pitch. A <u>small</u>
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question mark!
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<p>Meanwhile I started digging the final boulder choke. Thought the weak
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draft got a <u>bit</u> stronger. Slow going - a medium sized QM?.
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<p><center>BKA</center>
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<p><a href="../1996/log.htm#id1996-161-47">Previous trip (1996)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-14a">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-3">Wheelchair Access trip</a> (same day)
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-161-5">24/7/97</a> Dave H, Jon Barber, <u>Becka</u><br>
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<center>Alternative Universe</center>
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<p align=right>T/U 5½ hours
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<p>Mike gave us the briefing as he'd been the only one down last year.
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Gave Jon a brief lesson in surveying. Found a random carbide mark half-
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way down the boulder slope ~100m before Bulemic Pit. At the bottom of
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the boulder slope, you drop down a hole in the boulders (q. loose) and
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follow a tightish rift steeply down for ~5m to a Y-hand (2 bolts) which
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Mike had put in. Took out the rope which had been put in last year and
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rigged out <u>nice</u> skinny 9mm. Q. drippy down the pitch. 28m down to
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a big ledge. Found Mike's single dodgy bolt on the balcony to the bridge
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+ Jon put in a second bolt for a <u>nearly</u> rub-free Y-hang. At the
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ledge, I dropped the 5m pitch off 2 naturals - 2 well preserved
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<u>bat skeletons</u>
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<p>[ sketch showing locations of bat skeletons ]
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<p>(as plan) and an eye-hole through to the main pitch
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Jon was bolting. No other way on.
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<p>Jon + I down the next pitch, Y-hang <u>just about</u> OK with a rope
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protector and tacklesack on each arm of the Y-hang, but bad rubbing on
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the lower part of the pitch. Estimate 30-40m. Mike hadn't bottomed this
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last year [Oh yes I had - Mike TA] - not enough rope. Even drippier at
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the bottom of this pitch. Person-width rift led off. We thrutched
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<p>[ sketch plan of chamber ]
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<p>down as far as a short drop (15ft or less) where the rift opened up and
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continued around the corner - couldn't see how it ended,
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<p>Requires surveying from bolt at the head of 2nd pitch and probably a
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rebelay and deviation (at least!) on the 2nd pitch, plus a bolt for the
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short climb down the rift.
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<p><center>BKA</center>
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<p><a href="../1996/log.htm#id1996-161-65">Previous trip (1996)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-14">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-4">Wheelchair Access trip</a> (same day)
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-161-3">Wheelchair Access</a> 23/07/97 T/U 5 hours
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<br><u>Jon</u>, Adam, Mike
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<p>This was my first down Kaninchenhöhle. I was hot and tired by the
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time we had walked there in the midday sun. The cave was very cold in
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contrast.
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<p>We set off into Wheelchair Access. It was odd route with small bits and
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lots of climbs. The ways were very sharp and I do not see my over suit
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lasting very long.
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<p>We then started on the shit ramp. Adam sat and put a spit in part way
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down while Mike continued down and bolted lower down. I just sat down
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and went to sleep while they worked.
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<p>The pitch was descended and another climb was found into a big passage.
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This could not be entered as there were no more ropes. See later to find
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out how much more there is ....
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-1">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-4">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-2">Where the Wind Blows trip</a> (same day)
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-161-4">24/July</a>
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<u>Wheelchair Access & Kein Zimmer Rift</u>
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<table border><tr><td>Tony, <u>Mike</u></td>
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<td>pushing</td><td>Time U/G</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Sam, <u>Adam</u></td><td>surveying</td><td>6 hours</td></tr></table>
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<p>(1) <u>Surveying Trip</u>
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<p>Proceeded to passage referred to in the last write-up. The dirty ramp in
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Wheelchair Access has been renamed Kein Zimmer Rift on account of the
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lack of space. Surveyed from the 'M' carbide mark at -225m below 161a.
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Survey station 20 is the bottom of a plumb from the obvious nose
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containing a spit for the pitch into the big stuff. Tony whinged like a
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tosser spitting this. Spent ~¼hour running upstream in enormnous
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passage, before leaving.
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<p>See survey book for Sam's sketch of (mainly) the upstream passage - Tony
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and Mike had investigated down stream ... (next page)
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<p>(2) <u>Pushing Trip</u>
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<p>Trundled quickly down to the bottom of Kein Zimmer, pausing only
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occasionally to kick shit out of a tackle bag to get it down the rift. A
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few minutes knitting saw the drop into the passage rigged, and we
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dropped into a huge (well, very large) passage. Hmmm :- upstream or
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downstream? We agreed on downstream - followed passage for 250m with a
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few climbs through boulders but always large passage (phreatic tube at
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the pitch but becoming more canyon-like later). Eventually reached big
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ledge at side of a massive rift chamber. Tony bolted and descended to a
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ledge below which the pitch continued, but from there we climbed into
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the chamber. This is a huge (yes, <u>huge</u>) rift chamber with a
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steeply sloping floor, maybe 40m end-to-end. The bottom end narrows to a
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wall of mud. Unfortunately we couldn't find any way out.
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<p>Returned back up and met Sam & Adam who had just reached the kitted
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pitch. Tony bolted properly, then we ran upstream for a bit; this leads
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over a choss bank to another large chamber with a soil bank; up this and
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left leads back to the main passage, right goes to a climb down into a
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chamber, with a crawling tube back to the aforementioned chamber.
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<p>Now that's what makes expo caving worthwhile. Went out and got back to
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the Löserhutte before it started raining.
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-3">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-6">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-5">Alternative Universe trip</a> (same day)
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<hr />
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23/07/97 <u>Dave H</u>
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<p>Whilst the rest were caving I walked from Top Camp to the cave re-cairning
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the route so I won't get lost again. I also explored three possible digs in
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the valley/gulley we walk down. Starting from the bottom, on the left as you
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walk down, just before you get to the bunde highway, you step over it on the
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walk to the cave. A tight rift with a good cold draft. May go, but needed
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more in the way of protective clothing than shorts and T-shirt.
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<p>In the right hand wall of the valley:
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<p>(1) Sam's dig:
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<br>Flat out crawl on pebbles with more run in from the
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right. Way on is a tight rift in the floor at the end. I removed some
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rocks but rift looks too tight at 5-6 inches wide. But does emit a
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strong cold draft.
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<p>(2) Further up on the right as you walk down the valley/gulley. A
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circular entrance with mud floor, leads to a 3m deep pot which is blind.
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The way on over the top of the pot soon chokes - no draft.
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<p><u>Dave</u>
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SAM & DAVE GO WALKABOUT
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<br>DAVE, <u>SAM</u>
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<p>Having had a successful first trip in the cave (well, noone died anyway)
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we exited into blinding sun, er, clag, mist and light rain. We all left
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together, Dave and I bringing up the rear and all was well trolling up
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the gulley back to top camp. Twilight had set in so now we had clag,
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mist, heavier rain and failing visibility - what could possibly go wrong
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- well....
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<center><h3>WE GOT LOST</h3></center>
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<p>At one point we traversed round a bit both of us recognised as being an
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alternative route instead of going up a climb on the 'Authorised' route.
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Sorry this pen's a bit crap - switching to a new one .... This one's
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better ... Rather than do the sensible intelligent thing and turn back
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we persevered on our present course assuming we'd meet the path again. I
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mistakenly headed rightish (North as it turned out) up a different gully
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and then carefully kept a vague dark blob of a hill to our left. The
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vague dark blob of a hill was in fact the Hinter Schwartzmoos Kogel.
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More dark and more rain. We were now thoroughly lost. Dave had a compass
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and I had a vague notion of which way we should go - East and maybe a bit
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North and downhill 'cos we were definitely too high. Ten minutes later
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it was completely dark and tipping down (still misty and claggy) and it
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was decided that more walking in which ever direction would get us more
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lost so we found a rock shelter (dripping, misty, claggy and a pleasant
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breeze blowing through). We donned every bit of available gear including
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rucksacks - every bit of available gear was wet of course, and layed in
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a slight depression in the rocks. It was now 9:15pm, Dave fettled his
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carbide up and we huddled round it breathing warm carbide soot, and very
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warming it was too. The rest of the night was sleepless, very cold,
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always quarter to something and raining, dark, misty, claggy and windy.
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We waited for a reasonable amount of light and I decided if we headed
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South and East depending on terrain we would arrive back somewhere
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useful no matter where we were. 5:30am we set off (in the mist and clag
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but no rain hooray!!) - the walking around warmed us up and as we got
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lower the clag cleared marginally. A cliff face covered in Bunda ...
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mmmmm ... we found what looked a bit like a path and followed it - a bit
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of dithering around in the Bunda and we found a gulley - no way out at
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the bottom. <b>BUT</b> a little way up we found a definite path - sawn
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off branches and all and .... oh, we were at the Bunda traverse leading
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to 161d. Turn around and 15 minutes later we were back where we had gone
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wrong 10 hours earlier, still alive mostly thanks to having a carbide
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and a compass. 10 minutes further on we found Becka bellowing sweetly
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through the mist - rescued at last. After a brew and a bowl of Tom Yan
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Noodle soup we all went back down to base camp and what turned out to be a
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nice sunny day.
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<p>Many thanks to the people who had to get out of their just warm pits,
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put on their boots (after they'd tipped the water out) to come and look
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for us (twice) - next time it's your turn to hide.
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<p>Sam (only seven lives left now).
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<u>William</u> and Julian 27/07/97
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<p>William and Julian walked over in direction of C136, left gear for
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tomorrow's trip at highest point of Kaninchenhöhle path above col, and
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carried on round and slightly up. Noticed small hole under boulders and
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went down with a head-torch. Goes down for c. 20m to a tightish looking
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way on (worth trying in proper gear). At this point I could see daylight
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and crawled up a slope and out.
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<p>[drawing of entrance locations]
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<a id="id1997-161-9">28th July '97</a>
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<br><u>Dave H</u> and Mike - Photographing Lost World
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<br>Sam and William - Surveying Lost World
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<p>We went to Lost World, Sam carried my camera gear down Kein Zimmer rift.
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I took lots of photos in upstream Lost World which I hope come out.
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Tried photographing one of the many bat skeletons in the large chamber
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upstream Lost World, which almost certainly won't come out. I'm not sure
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I had enough light to do the large chamber justice - may be worth going
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back with some bulbs instead. Took more photos on the way out, including
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of Kein Zimmer rift, up which Mike carried my ammo can.
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<p>Because I kept taking more photos on the way out we didn't get out 'till
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close to our call-out time of 8pm.
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<p>T/U 7 ¾ hours
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<p><center>Dave</center>
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-8">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-10">The surveying trip</a>
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<a href="#id1997-161-12">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-1">136 trip</a> &
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<a href="#id1997-161-11">Siberia trip</a> (same day)
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<u><a id="id1997-161-10">28 July '98</a> <- ?
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Surveying Lost World Upstream</u>
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<p><center>Sam (notes) and <u>William</u> (instruments)</center>
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<p>My reintroduction to KH after 1990 expo - don't like climb to new
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entrance. Arrived just in time to hear a winging sound and see Becka
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disappearing underground. Passed grottyishly rigged surprise of Wheelchair
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Access - could do with extra bolt to remove need for rope protector. Down to
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Lost World via Kein Zimmer (Kein Raum/Platz?) rift which proved much easier
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than we'd been told. Sam and I started surveying while Dave and Mike took
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piccies. Got up to survey st'n 4 where Sam suggested we go up a side rift
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towards sound of running water. This we did and found huge area with small
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stream running down wall, disappearing under boulder blocking exit and
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simultaneously holding back a large pile of mud and gravel. Might just get
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down but probably not worth trying unless you fancy getting buried alive.
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Decided to survey it and ripped my suit. Continued surveying to station 10 in
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the chamber full of dead bats (Ptearamack Suit Chamber?) - well 2 or 3
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anyway. Continued through the crawl to the black floored passage (Bournville
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Lakes) and connected up a few more legs here and there. By this time I was
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freezing so we started out. Mike and Dave went on up the rift while I put a
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bolt in the bottom pitch to improve the take off and still caught them up
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before the top of the rift pitch. Out ca 7.30pm, back to camp where we waited
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for Julian and Anthony to come out of 136 before going down to base camp in
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the dark.
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<p>Time Underground 7½ hrs, William
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<p>P.S. Pause for a rant. When joining ropes at a rebelay, join the rope
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<u>loops</u> not just the maillon. That way you won't die if the maillon
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unscrews.
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<p>[drawing of correct method with large tick]<br>
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[drawing of wrong method with large cross]
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<p>PPS I like the rigging generally really!
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<p>[Insert: page torn from magazine - advertisement "Now there's a new way to
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avoid the wet patch.", captioned "Open, for a new exciting product - useful
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for Sump clearance, wild nights out and rising damp."]
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-8">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-9">The photography trip</a>
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<a href="#id1997-161-12">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-1">136 trip</a> &
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<a href="#id1997-161-11">Siberia trip</a> (same day)
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<a id="id1997-161-11">28th July 1997</a> Rigging towards Siberia T/U 7 hrs
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<p><u>Phil U</u>, Dunk, Becka
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<p align=right>{xxxx} = corrections from Becka
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<p>Dunk had an Idea: "Let's push that lead in Siberia!"
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<br>Phil: "Sounds like fun. Where's Siberia?"
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<br>Becka: "Can I come too?"
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<p>So we arrived at 161d, and worked out what we had forgotten.
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Unfortunately, I managed to fettle up a replacement for my lamp belt, so I
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had to go caving. We arrived at the guillotine to find several 9-10m lengths
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of rope, and three ropes >=56m. Mutter. General rope cutting and fettling,
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(the 60-odd m rope), and then we were off. Rigged into Knossus via an airy
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rebelay {Found tacklesack which had been left from last year}. General
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wandering around trying to find YAPATE inlet. Found it. Stomp. Replaced the
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traverse line {No, we didn't, we replaced the maillon on the pitch head and
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left all the rope (circa 1990 or so)} below staircase 36, and prussiked up.
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Becka replaced a dodgy looking <strike>hanger</strike> {maillon}, and we
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trundled up Chicken Flied Nice, with a short diversion to look at Hyper Gamma
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Spaces.
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<p>Next:
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lugging the tackle-bastards up Burble crawl. Not as nasty as it could have
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been, but still pretty miserable. Popped out at the head of Vom pitch, which
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Becka rigged half-way <strike>before running out of things to</strike>, and
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then couldn't find the right way down. Dunks then had a go with equal lack of
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success. {Later we found out it had been rigged off a deviation which had
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later fallen off as someone prussiked up it.} Phil didn't try. We came out,
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happy that we didn't have to lug all the tackle back through Burble, and
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exited to warm sunshine at 7.00pm.
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<p><a href="../1994/log.htm#id1994-161-11">Previous trip (1994)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-13">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-1">136 trip</a> &
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<a href="#id1997-161-9">Wheelchair Access trips</a> (same day)
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<a id="id1997-161-6">26/7/97</a> <u>Becka</u>, Jon
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TU 6 hrs <u>Wheelchair Access</u>
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<p>Raining so noone else wanted to go caving. I dragged Jon down Wheelchair
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Access. Jon did some re-rigging on Kein Zimmer and I ran downsteam to the
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pitch. Jon came along and we ran upstream for a look around and then started
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surveying downstream for some time. Then we came out.
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<center><a id="id1997-161-7">27/07/97</a> <u>Becka</u>, Robert and Robert
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T/U 7 hrs<br>
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German cavers from Stuttgart club<br>
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Tourist + Wheelchair Access</center>
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<p>Germans walked all the way over to Scarface with their gear from the car
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park (with some subtle grumbles over the climbs!) and I took them on a
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tourist to the end of Triassic Park and showed them the Fear-On Traverse and
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the start of Interview Blues. Back to go down Wheelchair Access. More mild
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grumbles over oversuit-shredding Kein Zimmer. Robert and Robert surveyed
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downstream from where Jon and I had left off yesterday to the bottom of the
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pitch downstream. I furtled around in the chamber below the pitch but
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couldn't find a way on - unless there is a way the other side of the pool
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where the pitch comes in.....but that is over welly height. I went back to
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fetch a rope and rigged a pitch (?5m) off 2 naturals and kicked the accrued
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stones down for a bit. Lobbed down and Robert (the elder) followed.
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<p>[detailed sketch of cave]
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<p>To small chamber with skinny rift upstream + rift (fine to go down)
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downstream. Down ~10m to small chamber, then along ~another 10m to top of
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small pitch in rift - I think this is quite likely to join up to the pool at
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the bottom of the downstream pitch into the big rift chamber, but should be
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checked. Robert could see light from young Robert when he was in the 2nd rift
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after the chamber + young Robert was in the main passage above the pitch.
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[arrow pointing to a section at the bottom of the next page]
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Showed the Germans Salt Lake City at the end of the trip and then they walked
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all the way back to the car park with their gear!
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<center><a id="id1997-136-2"><u>Steinschlagschacht - 136</u></a><br>
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29/7/97 <u>Becka</u>, Julian H, Anthony T/U 6½ hrs</center>
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<p>Faff, faff. Then Becka realised she had forgotten her oversuit at 161 so
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had to go back down the bloody hill to get it (see Fuckwit count). Finally
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got underground about 2pm. Anthony and Julian started the survey (Anthony had
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done the surface survey to 136 earlier). After the first pitch, I took over
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the surveying with Anthony and Julian went down to continue the rigging. We
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did lots of dodgy plumbs and ambled on down nice airy rigging with hardly any
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choss at all (<u>what were</u> they griping about?) Surveyed down to where A
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& J had got yesterday, then Julian had rigged a traverse line over a
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wettish rift into an eyehole. We reckoned the original CUCC route had gone
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straight down the wet route. We did another 54m rope worth down the eye-hole
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route, over a sloping hole and down 2 or 3 ledges until Julian got bored of
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rigging and our survey had caught up with him (189m depth surveyed, with 40m
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plan extent, fun, fun, fun!) Then we turned round and prussiked back out
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again to a fantastic sunset.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-1">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-3">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-12">161 trip</a> (same day)
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<center><a id="id1997-136-1">Steinschlagschacht</a> - 136<br>
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28/7/97 <u>Julian H</u>, Anthony T/U 7½ hrs</center>
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<p>Walked to 136 the hard way, up, down, up, down over choss etc. Walked back
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to get my gear. Sat around a bit fettling things, untangling 200m of rope and
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remembering how to put on SRT kit. Eventually got underground about 2
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o'clock. Completely rerigged the first pitch to avoid as much of the loose
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rubble as possible - now a 45° bolt traverse to the head of the pitch.
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Pitch head has moved from the original '83 position - now out of the line of
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fire from the boulder slope. Fine pitch (c.35m) with mostly free hang (and a
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lot of bounce) - one deviation.
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<p>Continued on from foot of 1st pitch into large chamber sloping downhill
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from entry point. There appeared to be 2 or 3 ways on from here but only one
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spit in evidence from the original '83 exploration. We rigged down the most
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promising hole (not where the original spit was) on the opposite side of the
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chamber about half way down the slope. After about 15m descent found spits
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from '83 exploration and followed these for around 100m descent. Eventually
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arrived at a ledge next to a waterfall with the water disappearing down a
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rift in the floor. This route looks a bit damp and unpleasant.
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<p><u>Note:</u> The pitch head at the 2nd pitch is both loose and awkward.
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Typically people kick rocks from this which fall around 70/80m down the pitch
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to the obvious ledge. It's advisable not to call "pitch free" until OFF the
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2nd pitch and for the following people to wait under this obvious ledge.
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<p><a href="../1984/log.htm#id1984-136-5">Previous trip</a> (1984) /
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<a href="#id1997-136-2">Next trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-11">Siberia trip</a> &
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<a href="#id1997-161-9">Wheelchair Access trips</a> (same day)
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<center><a id="id1997-161-15">31/7/97</a> KHöhle -
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Puerile Humour
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<p><u>Dave H</u>, Andrew, Mike TU 5½ hrs</center>
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<p>Photographic trip up Puerile Humour. Went in with Sam and Adam to show us
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the way. Took a couple of photos of Slidy Caver on the way in while waiting
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for Andrew to change. I started photographing at Penguin Falls, and took one
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and a bit films in Puerile. Took no piccies in Triassic cos I was told there
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already are plenty. Finished off with some pictures in Critters' End,
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Perseverance and Slidy Caver again. Got out with weather still OK, but heavy
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cloud building. Back to camp OK, but it started thundering, lightening and
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pissing down on the way down.
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<p><center>Dave</center>
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-14a">Previous trip</a> (Where The Wind Blows) /
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Next trip - 1999 ?
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<a id="id1997-161-16">31/7/97</a> <u>Dunk</u>, William, Phil U
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<u>Siberia TU 11 hrs</u>
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<p>Finally got to the pushing front in Siberia. Someone Else's Problem is
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fucking big. Whacked in some bolts and threw William down on a bit of rope.
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No sign of the bottom - estimate about 50m. Came back out to darkness and
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pissing rain. Siberia is in fact dead nice. A bit blowy, but dead nice - lots
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of sculpted flakes of rock, and quite a lot of ?s all over the place.
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<center><a id="id1997-136-3">31/7/97</a> Tony, <u>Becka</u> TU Tony 7 hrs
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Becka 8 hrs<br> Steinschlagschact (136)</center>
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<p>We went down ~same time as Julian + Anthony, we'd split a 200m rope
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between us to rig each of our 2 routes. J & A bombed off with the drill
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through the Eyehole route whilst Tony put another bolt on the opposite wall
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to the end of the traverse. We went down the damper route, though the Y-hang
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was well away from the water. Down to ledge in the rift, walked along it
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~10m, found an 83/84 bolt. Tony down that, put a rebelay bolt over the lip,
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moaned quite a bit about dead legs and down another short pitch. Along a
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ledge R ~10m again, still stringing along our 100m rope and .....
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der-der-der-duurh, we think we found the "Phreatic Phantasy" level. A few
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widgy 1 metre (max) diameter tubes going off at quite steep (?60° or so)
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angles which intersected with the main shaft. I furtled around for quite a
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time rigged off various so-so naturals, to see if anything promising went
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off. Nothing really seemed to be drafting they were quite mud-filled. I
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rigged the next little pitch off 3 naturals and swung around and around some
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more to various odd holes. Snapped off a v. fine white stal. squeezing into
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an unpromising rifty-hole, sadly.
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<p>[detailed sketch of cave entitled: Fantasy Frigging Freatic Level]
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<p>Oh dear. Out to the traverse line, met the other 2 who'd bombed down and
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bombed out, surveying. Tony went out. Julian, Anthony and I went back down
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our route to survey it as far as a knobble (CM) above and on the wall by the
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2nd natural (see plan over). Oh, except Anthony ballsed up and didn't get a
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compass for that leg. Everyone turned their noses up at my phreatics then we
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prussiked out with loads of drill gear which was bloody heavy. I ended up
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with 2 tacklesacks on the entrance pitch with the usual CUCC 2m donkey dicks
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on which meant they swung nicely into all the ungardened choss on the
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traverse line at the top. Crash, rumble, crash. "You still there Anthony?"
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Dour grumbles from the farthest corner of the cave. Out to thunder,
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lightning and downpour. Walked down in caving gear. Yum,yum.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-2">Previous trip</a> -
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<a id="id1997-161-8">27/07/97</a> <u>Sam, Adam</u><br>
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Surveying upstream in Lost World
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<p>Discovered a section of <u>large</u> passage containing many mud
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formations and showing evidence of backing up. Very sump-like. Much of
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passage (named Bournville Lakes?) was ~5m wide, highly linear and v. tall,
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hading slightly. Dived off down, even more sump-like, entering a tube before
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leading ultimately to a small mud-choked bit. The water had cut deep trenches
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in mud banks but seemed to seep into choss in the floor. Surveyed this lot so
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didn't have time to complete the whole upstream survey.
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<p>(Survey continued William & Sam)
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<img alt=" " src="../../../icons/lists/tab64.png"> Adam<br>
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(28/7 - <a href="#id1997-161-10">written up earlier</a>)
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<img alt=" " src="../../../icons/lists/tab96.png"> T/U 7 hrs
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<a id="id1997-161-12">29/7/97</a> Sam's rift at top of K(l?)ein Zimmer<br>
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<center>Tony, Jon, <u>Adam</u></center>
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<p>Went with drill to push over the 1st pit (Sam did before, blind pit).
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Bolted down 2nd pit, clearing choss on the way. Approx 20m deep before
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choked. Adam bolted up to the last bolt before suggesting Jon continued. He
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did - it went about 10 feet! Went out - Tony frozen. Needs further push for
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3rd pit!
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<p>T/UG 5 hrs Adam
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30/07/97 Surface ramblings Tony, <u>Adam</u>
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<p>Went round the Augstwies side for a look around, starting at 201 level.
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Lots of bunde bashing and following Bambi tracks up ridiculous slopes.
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Located (1) a tube<br>
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(2) a cave CUCC 1997 # 1 ... (see KH survey book, sorry)
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<p>Both are in the cliff which 161d sits in. The tube was too high - need to ab in. The cave is 30m long and may draught slightly. Worth a dig as it is
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~30m lower & 20m S of 161d. It is phreatic.
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<p>Sketched some surface features to the limit of my ability. See non-KH
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survey book.
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<p align=right>Adam<br>
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T/U 30 mins
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<p>
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<a id="id1997-136-4">31/7/97</a> Steinschlagschacht (136)<br>
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Julian H + Anthony.<br>
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TU 8 hours
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<p>Bombed down the "Eyehole Route" as far as the limit of the trip on 29/7/97
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to find Julian putting in more bolts at the head of the next pitch Some time
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and 3 bolts later, a distant "pitch free" was heard & I followed. Pitch
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is approx. 60m with deviation & 2 rebelays. The last 45m is down the wall
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of a jolly large chamber. (roof not visible from top rebelay (at least 65m
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high) chamber appears to be part of an enormous rift, ~10m wide and 20m long,
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choked at either end. At the southern end, a hole is visible ~10m off the
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ground, possibly accessible by a chossy climb which neither of us fancied our
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chances of getting back down again without a rope. A hole under the far wall
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of the chamber from where the rope lands leads to the foot of a drippy aven
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with no other visible leads. Survey data puts this lot at -257m from 136
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entrance and ~30m below the level of Forbidden Land. No obvious draught,
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though the big pitch is quite breezy. Undid the last 2 rebelays on the way
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out with a view to hauling the rope out from the top later.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-2">Previous trip</a> /
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<a id="id1997-161-13">30/7/97</a> Siberia<br>
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<u>JON</u>, DUNCAN TU 7½ hrs
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<p>I was talked into going to Siberia with Duncan. There were plenty of
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comments like "Its not that cold", "Burble Crawl is not too bad" and the
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like. It was in fact one of my best trips and I was warm. This was the first
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time I did not need a hat and gloves. We went in through Triassic Park and
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into Knossos. All nice and big. Then Burble Crawl. Not too small but .. its
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uphill for 100m. Vom Pitch followed. We were glad to get out of this place at
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the bottom, lots of bits fell off including what we rigged off. Duncan found
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the way on and off we went. (There is also a hole at the bottom of the pitch.
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Possible lead!) Found a windy passage. I got cold while Duncan rigged then we
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went out to meet our call out.
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Dunk, Anthony<br>
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26/7/97 Team Lardis Time Travel to Expo
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<p>Smaller than it looks on the inside. Travels along right angles in space
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time. Got to Dover so fast we reckoned we'd catch the earlier ferry.
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Unfortunately the last 2 miles to the docks took 1½ hours therefore
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caught ¼ to 3 ferry.
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<p>Once in France Anthrax, Megadeth and Halloween kept us awake for a while.
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<p>Incidental note!<br>
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Fuel consumption against speed for Lada Riva 1.3 !
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<p>[funny graph follows]
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<p>Some fat Kraut tried to shove us off the Autobahn, but we arrived OK.
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<a id="id1997-161-14">Last and final bit of Magic Jumars</a> 30/7/96
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<p>Sam Lieberman and Mike Richardson
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<p>First trip down Magic Jumars (in fact first trip down Alternative
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Universe) before we'd even got to the pitch series we spotted a V. V. good
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lead requiring a bolt traverse (Anthony, Dave shits muesli, there was an
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awful lot of Dave knowledgeable bullshit going on not to mention a "pendule")
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spot the pissed ramblings in log book). Meanwhile back in the cave....
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<p>[map drawn here]
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<p>Having descended the pitches Sam took off his SRT gear and squeezed
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through the rift at the end. There was a gorgeous echo (worthy of a Welsh
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choir) but the rift got too tight errrrrrr................ well a team of
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dehydrated midgets might get through - derigged in the well dripping pitches.
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<p>TU for Mike 6 hours
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-5">Previous Alternative Universe trip</a>
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<hr width=40%>
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<p><a id="id1997-161-14a"><u>Sam</u></a> Re-rigging Where the Wind Blows
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30/7/97
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<p>After de-rigging Alternative Universe, Mike headed out from the
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Guillotine, with some time in hand I decided to go and recover my tape slings
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and re-rig the traverses and hand-lines in Puerile Humour - boring stuff
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really. Ran down Triassic/Puerile Humour did the re-rigging/collected the
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spare ropes and ran back down Triassic.
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<p>TU including Alt.Uni trip 7 ½ hours.
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-2">Previous WTWB trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-15">Next trip</a>
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<hr />
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3/8/97 Swiss Alpinists arrive...<br>
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Chris Densham, Mary Lane (Fran's sister), Mike Baslington (Juliette Kelly's
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4C's buddy)
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<p>Just left the Swiss Alps after 2 weeks very pleasant climbing. Just
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trogging up the hill to see about doing some caving. Chris
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<hr />
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2/8/97 some rambling/digging/surface rigging
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<br><u>Adam</u>
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<p>Claggy weather so went to<br>
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(1) rig/insert spits for an ab off from Scar Face to below the cliff for<br>
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a) surveying down lower<br>
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b) rescue evacuation to a helicopter landing<br>
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(2) dig the back of 1997/01
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<p>Results<br>
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(1) rescue rig not completed. Ran out of rope and cones (dropped one :-( ).
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So far one spit + 4m and 3m north of 161d for traverse round + 2 spits ~ 15m
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N & below at top of grassy swathe. 40m rope from these takes you through
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relatively choss free and bunder free region ending on a steep cliff face
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where 2 more spits are needed for a ~ 30m? drop down to walking terrain.
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<p>(2) Dig 4m gained but needs more effort to continue to shift sandy floor
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& more cobbles back in passage. No draft perceived.
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<p><u>A walking route to the bottom of the Scarface cliff.</u>
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<p>Climb approx 15ft above the entrance to 161d, on the path, contour left
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(southish), aiming at a grassy band below a cliff. Drop diagonally down this
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grassy band, until an incised gully* (quite narrow) is reached which affords
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a scramble downwards to a more level patch of broken ground. Contour round
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& up slightly to the bottom of the cliff.
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<p>*Just after entering the gully, a cave entrance behind and to your right
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(facing down) is seen (entered - no way on ~ 12m of passage & fractured
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rock floor. Not tagged.) Lower down on the R, right in the gully is another
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(undescended) cave.
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<p><u>Another small cave at the cliff base</u>
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<p>Another cave of water worn origin was investigated, (very) approx 150m S
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of 161d at the base of the cliff. It is dead straight on a bearing ~ 290°
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and dips at -30° from the entrance. Dimensions approx 0m5 wide, varying
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in height from ~1m50 to 0m5. Cobble floored. Length approx 16m. Ends in
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rubble at floor level & 2 impassable slots above. Seems to draft
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slightly. Marked "+" and '97/2" in carbide, <u>not tagged</u>.
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<p>Time U/G ~ 1hr
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-136-5">2/8/97</a> Julian H / Becka T/U 7 hours<br>
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<center>136 - Steinschlagschacht<br>CONNECTION Trip!</center>
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<p>Everyone was nursing non-existent post-dinner hangovers in the rain, but
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Julian + I + Adam, being mugs, headed up the hill. Clag + drizzle. Oh well,
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we'll walk to top camp, brew up, and psyche ourselves up. I climb into my
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soaking Alpinex, after my last 136 trip, I was trying to dry it, ended up
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just making myself miserable, but a good dose of Tom Yam noodles soon sorted
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us out. Tootled up to 136, bombed on down - gone 2pm! round the Eyehole route
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to the top of the pitch series into the big chamber. Julian gets the drill
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out + sweats + strains over a nightmare traverse over a great slab of chossy
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80( rock, 50m above the deck. I get cold. Occasionally I make helpful
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comments like "Do you really need another bolt? Can't you just swing over
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from there?" and rack my brain for conciliatory phrases after the traverse
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goes nowhere, "Well at least we know how many bolts the drill does now," "It
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was a fine view anyway", "Good practice for the real thing" etc. etc.
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<p>Eventually Julian disappears over the edge, swings over to another rock
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bridge, and I can footle over. I'm frozen + Julian is shagged so I get to do
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a loose 6m hang off a dodgy natural down to a chossy mud slope. Julian is
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enthusiastic about a vague shadow on the far wall. I try not to get too
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pessimistic. I get down, the 'way on' looks like a loosely bouldered alcove.
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I start screeching, at Julian, "Look, look!" "What?" "Look!" I've spotted a
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<u>huge</u> CM13, we've made the 161 connection to the Forbidden land, yelp.
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I go hollering off down the next chamber whilst Julian whacked in a couple
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more bolts for the final pitch, then we both went off for a tourist.
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We headed towards Elin Algor, but it got v. loose boulder choke. Then we
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played around down Tirolia Werke as far as the pitch + poked around some
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QMs. Then we surveyed from the QM13 to Anthony's last point, as we were
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good bods! Then we went home, prussik, prussik, prussik. Thought there
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wouldn't be anyone at Top Camp to brag to, but no, every tent was stuffed to
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the gills so we kept up all the Off-To-The-Far-End-At-6.30AM-Tomorrow-Morning
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Team up as we pigged out on tortellini again. A fine trip on a dreary day -
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KH over 500m + a new entrance!!!
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-4">Previous trip</a> /
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Next trips (into 161): <a href="#id1997-136-6">Forbidden Land</a> &
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<a href="#id1997-136-7">Gravel Pit</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-8">Next 136 push</a>
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<hr />
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<center><a id="id1997-136-6">3/8/97 Julian, Anthony, <u>Becka</u> T/U 8
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hrs</a><br> 136 Steinschlagschacht</center>
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<p>Team keen up at 6.30 which meant all of Top Camp was up & around
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by 7.30 & I was the last to leave Top Camp at 9.30 or so.
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<p>What is CUCC coming to ? We three beat William + Andrew down 136 + headed
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off down the wet (Original) Route [ to be called Wet Dreams, and passing
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through Fhantasy Phreatics level ?] to continue the survey down. I rigged
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until I'd finished the 100m rope (which had started at the Y-hang of the
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traverse, where the Eyehole Route splits off). This is 2 pitches off bolts,
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one off naturals & then 3 more rebelays off increasingly dodgy bolts.
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No shortage of 83/84 bolts - often two within a metre of each other, but
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some impressively lousy placements, bolts sticking out miles, wet hangs,
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etc. etc. Still, it must have been miserable rigging it in the first
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place. The Wet Route is smaller than the shaft series above the traverse,
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& apart from the piddly phreatics, it is down, down, with spray + a
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series of ledges ~10m apart. Finished the survey (a resurvey from the Y-hang
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would be worth it, if the wet route ever goes anywhere!) & then we
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derigged the 100m (which was the point of all the above) & went down the
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Eye-Hole route & rigged the 100m into the Big Chamber. I did the traverse
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& had a look at the drop.
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<p>[ sketch showing location of a QM near connection point ]
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<p>QM SHOULD BE DONE, GOOD POTENTIAL + drop of ?20m into rifty passage from
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the bridge before the final ~6m pitch to the Forbidden World connection.
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<p>However, I didn't have a bolting kit + the rock was really chossy so I
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went back. People in the chamber look <u>really</u> tiny from 45m up on the
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traverse. Down to the Big Chamber to meet the others, a jolly free hang.
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Julian had drilled his way up the mud/rock to get to a hole at the south
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end of the chamber, but it went nowhere. He left the rope on it.
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<p>[sketch plan ]
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<p>I looked around the chamber q. carefully. The only lead I could find
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was through (down) the boulder climb (q. stable, big rocks) q. a long way
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(10-20m) to a q. strongly drafting rift/pitch which would need a bit of
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|
hammering to go (or maybe you could get into it from another spot through
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the boulders). Back out, de-rigged the 100m (again!) + left it on the top
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of the traverse (well, it might be useful there!) + the drill (see previous
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excuse) & ambled on out. My last trip! Anthony's knee now thoroughly
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knackered.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-5">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-7">Gravel Pit trip (same day)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-8">Next 136 push</a>
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<hr />
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<a id="id1997-136-7">3 Aug 97</a> Push/Survey Wookey's 1996 lead in
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Forbidden Land "The Gravel Pit"<br><u>William Stead</u>, Andrew Atkinson.
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<p>The original plan had been for Mike (Animal) to go with Andrew via
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Stairway to Hell, special permission having been sought from Tina.
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However, new way through from 136 means lots of prussiking, so I was
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drafted in instead. Went via Kaninchenhöhle to pick up SRT kit to
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find team Keen <u>still</u> not fully underground & returned to 136
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entrance to find Julian & Anthony taking the piss over a half-changed
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Becka (or vice-versa). Followed Julian, Anthony & Becka underground
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ca 11.30 am & did <u>lots</u> of abseiling down to the bolt traverse
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followed by a lot more abseiling & a 100% wacky, way-out traverse
|
|
miles up in the ceiling to reach ... The Forbidden Land. Headed <u>South</u>
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towards Wookey's lead via a 5m pitch Andy had forgotten about. At this
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point my penknife came in handy to cut the rope we'd brought. Continued
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down Wookey's lead to find ourselves in a medium size chamber where the
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floor + walls comprised entirely gravel or choss (The Gravel Pit).
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Looked down a pit in the floor where the take off was also 100% choss,
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no chance of rigging it + too steep to climb. So we went round to the left
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between <u>more</u> gravel banks to find a pitch with a stream coming in.
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Andy used the bolt kit I'd picked up from KH entrance to rig it + kicked
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loads of choss down. At the base of the pitch is a small chamber + a
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climb down with the water. Passage continues in walking vadose trench to
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|
where the water disappears under the stones. Passage continues to an aven
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+ a small chamber with lots of mud + a choked mud sump. Pity. Surveyed out,
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with me on instruments until my glasses misted up, so swapped. Surveyed
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back to original lower bolt. <u>NB</u> took a look at an alternative way
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to the choss hole in the floor where there is a solid boulder in the
|
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roof to rig off. This seems to go somewhere else + should be pushed (A).
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Out at sundown via <u>lots</u> of prussiking + getting v.hot.
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<p><center>T.U. 9 hrs</center>
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-5">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-6">Forbidden Land trip (same day)</a>
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<a href="#id1997-136-8">Next 136 push</a>
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<hr />
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<center><a id="id1997-161-17">3-8-97</a> Duncan, Jon, Andrew K, Phil U. TU
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14<br> Someone Else's Problem</center>
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<p>Picked up 75m of 9 mil at the Guillotine. Then went to retrieve Andrew
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from the far end of Salt Lake, while Jon + Phil set off to survey to SEP.
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<p>Faff, Faff, Faff. Eventually the survey to the pitchhead was complete
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|
and descents had begun. Wibble, Wibble went the cavers. Twang, Twang, went
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the 9 mil. F***ING BIG SHAFT. Only rubs a little bit half way up. (Fettled
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with a loopless rebelay off of a spike on the way out.) The rope was just
|
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reachable after unloading it.
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<p>LEADS: (1) Down short climb, traverse across head of another climb into
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a draughting crawl.<br>
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(2) Down same climb, climb down again, then down 5m pitch. Undescended ~15m
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pitch with wind farting up it.
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-16">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-22">Next SEP trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-20">Next Siberia trip</a> (Fuzzy Logic)
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1997-161-18">3.8.97</a> Dave H & Mike R TU 5½ hrs
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<p>Aim:- to bolt up at Moomintroll
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<p>No problems getting to Moomintroll but the traverse around the right
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hand side of Zebedee is a bit hairy in that it is horribly loose and all
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the holds come off in your hand. The climb up is pretty impressive, a
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good big black space waiting to be explored, but it is not clear whether
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it just goes up and up.
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<p>At any rate we looked at the climb, reckoned that with a bit of bottle
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and a climbing rope it would be no problem to get up it, but as we had
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neither we had to start bolting. Put the first bolt in, about 5 ft up.
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Unfortunately, at this point I dropped the driver down a small crack.
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Should be able to get it back with a coat hanger.
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<p>At this point we decided that it would be much easier with a drill and
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that it might be a good idea to jack. I made sure the jack was certain by
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hitting the entry to Hymen Crawl with the hammer & snapping the head
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off.
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<p>As we had only been down the cave 2½ hrs we needed something else
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to do. So on the way back we climbed up to the left just after the two holes
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in the floor near the start of Wheelchair Access. There looks to be a roof
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tube going off at this point but we failed to climb into it. Mike had a look
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at some other small tubes going off and found some surface debris & bits
|
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of skeleton, but it closed down after about 6 ft.
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<p>We still had more time to kill so looked down the two holes that you
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traverse across just before you reach Moth Chamber and the short climb up
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in Triassic. The two holes connect, lead to a 1.5m climb down to the
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head of a pitch. Unfortunately, this just drops into Wheelchair Access,
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and needs surveying.
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<p><center>Dave</center>
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-25">Next Moomintroll trip</a> /
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Other trips (same day): <a href="#id1997-136-6">136 Forbidden Land</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-7">136 Gravel Pit</a> / <a href="#id1997-161-17">Siberia</a>
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1997-161-19">4/8/97</a> <u>Dave H</u>, Mike B, Chris D, Mary,
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Juliette
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<p>Wheelchair Access -> Lost World to survey the downstream end
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<p><u>TU</u> Dave H, Mike & Juliette 9 hrs<br>
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<u>TU</u> Chris D, Mary 7 hrs
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<p>Rather a slow trip, didn't get underground until 1 pm. Even then
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everything went really slowly, taking almost an hour to get from the
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entrance to the start of Wheelchair Access. The new route into Wheelchair
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Access needs surveying, but me and Mike, who'd got bored and gone on
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ahead didn't have the gear.
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<p>We headed on down to Lost World as a group of five, once we got to
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the big stuff, as it seemed to be taking ages for everyone to get down
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the last 5m pitch I took Mike for a quick tour of the upstream stuff.
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On returning, the others had disappeared downstream so we buggered off
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after them, to catch up in he boulder choke.
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<p>At this point Mary and Chris decided to go out as it was getting late
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& Mary thought she would be slow. This left me , Mike and Juliet to do
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the survey, and me t have my third ever go at doing book.
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<p>We pushed through the boulders, down a climb and eventually found the
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pitch into the chamber. Got off the pitch part way as soon as we could step
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into the big chamber, but the pitch continues below. Found the Germans' G
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find survey mark and survey left as you look into the chamber. This ends at
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an aven, with water coming in. I then surveyed back underneath what I'd just
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done, but at stream level ending up roughly back close to the pitch. From
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here two possible ways go off. To the left a long straight rift taking the
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small stream. The boulder floor drops and the stream disappears under the
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right hand wall and the passage is not enterable. The rift continues, but you
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are now ascending boulders, and soon the roof is seen which descends to meet
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the floor.
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<p>To the right a short piece of rift with water entering down one wall, soon
|
|
ends in a deep pool (marked a survey station with a cross on the wall at this
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point - no. 16 on the left hand wall as you face the pool).
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<p>Mike waded across the pool, shallowest along the left wall to find an
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inlet stream. Looking at our survey and Becka's description of her trip with
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the Germans, I think this inlet is the continuation of the pitch into the
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chamber - but this needs checking.
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<p>There are no other obvious leads except this inlet in the chamber.
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<p>As it was now getting rather late we couldn't:
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<p>(1) Do some tie up legs I wanted to do
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<p>(2) check the continuation of the pitch into the chamber.
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<p>(3) Derig.
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<p>So we headed out. As we'd bombed down through the boulders really quickly
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we'd not taken much notice of the way out. At one point, there is an
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unobvious climb up t the right - which is the way out - however it is much
|
|
more obvious to climb up through the large spaces in the boulders to the left
|
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- this ended in a large rift pitch, which, looking at our survey, may or may
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not connect back into the left hand rift continuation of the large chamber.
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<p>We soon found the real way out and 'cos I'm getting lots of hassle about
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writing too much I'll just say it took ages to get out.
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<p>Things to note when derigging:<br>
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There is tackle up a climb on the left, as you go downstream near a rock
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bridge marked with a tackle bag. This may be interesting as it seems to
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be heading away from the large chamber.<br>
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It also needs surveying.
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-12">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-23">Next (derigging) trip</a>
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1997-161-20">5/8/97</a> Surveying Siberia Left hand branch<br>
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Phil U, Phil B, Brian, <u>Andrew K</u><br>
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TU 11½
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<p>Fairly swift journey in. Tried to fix previous Siberia survey up to
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genuine survey station, but couldn't find CM labelled 'end', so settled
|
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for CM <u>not</u> labelled 'not this ...' (point 2 of last Siberia
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survey a few years back).
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<p>Set off up LH route - lots of mazy phreatic passage connecting at
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insane angles with a loop or two. Now X-ened 'Fuzzy Logic'.
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<p>Rough description: LH branch off Not This Junction turn sharp left.
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Passage follows rift for a few metres before turning left again. Rift
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continues straight ahead, but looks too narrow to push. Small opening
|
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on right before left hand turn quickly chokes with mud. Left hand turn
|
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leads into Y-junction with swirlpool at intersection. Left leads to
|
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steep phreatic tube; this connects back into right hand turn. Right turn
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leads to connection with left hand turn, then into complicated rift
|
|
junction. Rift pitches up to left and down to left probably connect up;
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this is a going lead. Right hand small hole leads into left hand rift and
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small passages connecting back up the passage, but it is v. tight.
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<p>Not having a rope to hand, we went back to poke around in some
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Siberia leads, brief sketch of crossroads on the way to SEP follows:
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<p>[ sketch of Greengables ]
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<p>RH passage leads into small chamber with easily climbable (at least
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for a while) rift off to left and small passage to right.
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<p>Middle passage leads into rift junction. High LH passage connects back
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into route to SEP, straight on in a loop also connecting back to SEP route.
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Right leads into oval shaped rift with ~6m aven at far end. Small passages
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off to left of SEP route connect up in easy crawl in muddy phreatic
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passage which does not appear to close down - 'Burble II - the Mud strikes
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back'.
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<p>At this point it was 1800, so we chugged on out in order to get back
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at a sensible time.
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-17">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-22">Next SEP trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-24">1997 derig trip</a> /
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<a href="../1998/log.htm#id1998-161-10">Next pushing trip in Fuzzy Logic</a>
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(1998)
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<p><a id="id1997-136-8">1 3 6</a> 5th Aug '97<br>
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<u>Steinschlagschacht<br>
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Chris D</u>, Andy A
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<p>First trip in this hole for me - far less chossy than feared, due to
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latest bolting techniques no doubt. Down to pit at connection between 136 +
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KH - bolted down 'Distraction' - swing across to a window, down to drippy
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drafty chamber - with footprints. We'd reached the Orchestra Pit. Surveyed
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& derigged (50m vert.) then went off to the Gravel Pit. Bizzare place,
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walls of eroded stuck together gravel. Dried up stream sported a STONKING
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DRAFT - all it needs is a crowbar to open it up a bit. This must be done
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soon ! Alas we had no crowbar. So we put in our penultimate bolt in the
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only solid wall in the area & dropped down to a squitty streamway. "Have
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a look at it if you want, I'm too fat" said AA. So I grovelled in until
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enthusiasm waned after 30 mins or so. Then AA continued the flat out crawl in
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water until that choked too. A Grand Canyon it was not. Saved the seventh
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& final bolt to take out the rub to the core I'd noticed on the 2nd
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pitch. Good trip, shame nothing went.
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<p><a id="id1997-161-21">161d</a> Chris & <u>Mary</u> 6th August 1997
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<p>Went to Staudnwirt Palace, climbed up miserable climb, bits of it fell
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off at embarassing moments, de-rigged two ropes and retrieved Julian's gear
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for price of two beers.
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<p align=right>TU 4 hrs
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<p align=right><a id="id1997-136-10">7th August '97</a>
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<p>Steinschlagschacht Julian, <u>Chris</u>
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<p>Tripped our way down to the 'Y' hang above 'Traverse of the Gods'. Set
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about bolting over the top - straight over ? No - left horrible climb up
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carrying drill, tacklesack etc., over the top to a high level chamber over
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the pitch. Through a window, down pitch to 'The Box' - superb view across to
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'Traverse of the Gods', and tried to bolt the 'Footlights' traverse across
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the 'Theatre'. Got half way across - an imposing situation that ended in
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overhanging choss. Oh dear. Need some magical method of getting across the
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choss to the mythical window that heads south to Stellerweg.
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<p align=right>TU 8 hrs
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-9">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-11">Next trip</a>
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<p><u>7th Aug 97</u><br>
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<center><u>Dave H</u>, Anthony, Andy A, Juliet</center>
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<p>walking around the area of 136, putting tags on stuff [Tagged 136, 138,
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139, 97-07 (formerly WK7), 97-08 (formerly WK8,9,10)], taking photos of
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entrances and finding new cave. Near 163, which has some nice ice
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formations, we found a couple of interesting things. A going hole
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numbered<br>
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<center>1623/<br>
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H88</center><br>
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which we think is one found by the French or more likely the Germans.
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As we came traversing back we found<br>
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1623/<br>
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88 F -<br>
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This looks very promising, it looked undescended, is a hole in the cliff
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face immediately turning into a rift pitch. Its only about 50m higher
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than 161d entrance in height terms, but located above the forbidden
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land.
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<p>H88 was explored by AndyA, who eventually got bored with crawling.
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It is further south than the current southern extremity of 136 and is
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~50m above level of Forbidden Land - should at least be surveyed to. AJD.
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<p><a id="id1997-161-23">8th August 97</a><br>
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Derig of Wheelchair Access<br>
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<u>Dave H</u>, Brian, Mike B, TU 6 hrs
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<p>Initial aims were to go down, look for leads and survey some
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bits + pieces. But we also had to be out quite early so we could
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have a meal at Hilde's. Unfortunately, on the way in, I thought
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to check the traverse and pitches off under the wall to the left
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to see if any gear had been left. Yes, the traverse was still
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rigged, so Mike went across to derig & found that the pitch at
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the end was rigged via two rebelays and was at least 20-30m deep.
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When we got this rope out, found we had an extra 83m rope to get
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out. Headed on down to the Lost World & headed downstream.
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Checked out the 'big rift' that we had seen last trip down, to
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the right just after the climb down. All this was was a climb up
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in boulders and then looking back down on the main passage from a
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great height.
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<p>Onward to the final chamber to check out a couple more leads.
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<p>(1) Continuation of the pitch - lands at the deep pool (which
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was fairly empty) just beyond survey station 16.
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<p>(2) Mike climbed the inlet and I could hear him from the top of
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the pitch. I made a visual connection from where the water sinks at
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the passage just back from the top of the pitch with this inlet, via
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a rather large wide pitch, narrow at the top and covered in chocked
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boulders - one of which I was standing on.
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<p>Did a couple of grade 2 drawings - couldn't survey as we'd left the
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tape behind.
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<p>This left Becka's climb up to the left (as you go downstream) by
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the rock bridge. This looks quite good. 2m climb up to a 15m pitch
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down with two ways on, again I took some grade 2 drawings.
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<p>Detackled this and started on out. Detackling was OK, even of
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Kein Zimmer Rift. We each prussiked up it with a tackle bag, Mike
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filling his with the rope from the pitch as we went - no problems.
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<p>Left gear at the guillotine, continued out with a tackle bag
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each, which we left at Mothshag.
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<p><u><a id="id1997-136-9">6/8/97</a> Julian H</u>, Andy A, Mike B. T/U 8
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hrs<br>136 - Steinschlagchact
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<p>Went down with the intention of taking a few photos and then
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pushing some leads in Forbidden. My first (+ last?) underground
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photo trip with mostly overground photo gear. Took pictures of
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people on most of the pitches, traverse of the gods and eyehole
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traverse. Had an attempt at taking picture of chamber at the end
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of Elin Algor, but this proved tedious trying to use "B" setting
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on camera. I doubt I'll bother with that again !
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<p>Once in the Forbidden land, we systematically reviewed all
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known leads and possibly found one or two others. Went down
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Tirolia Werke first. Andy climbed up the roof tubes on the right
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hand side (walking W) and found most either closed down or turned
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into avens. About ½ along Tirolia Werke on RH side, small
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climb up (c.3) leads to large(ish) chamber at foot of aven. Grade
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C tight, wet lead in here. Looked at Gravel Pit. Big draft but not
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very inspiring. Opposite(ish) Gravel Pit is a big fallen boulder
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with a pitch behind. It's possible to climb around the boulder to
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pitchhead, probably about 10m hang, possibly a way on at the bottom.
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<p>Next we went back up Tirolia Werke, into Elin Algor and up to the
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large chamber near the Pump House turn. Look/threw rocks down all
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the holes. Big Holes in the chamber sound dead and look very likely
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to be choked - probably not good leads. Went down choss back and
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around the RH wall to small adjoining chamber. Climbed up another
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choss bank towards Chris D's lead - <u>BIG</u> pitch with good boom at the
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bottom. V. good lead but for the small scrotty connecting tube.
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<p>Exitted chamber, climbed up into Pump House and thence to Hall
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of the Mounting Choss. Pump House passage has same feel about it as
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Mississipi/Mississipi Mud Pie - the other side of Stairway to Hell.
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HoTMC is huge and loose as the name suggests. Pitches in the top
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left corner (looking from the bottom of the slope) look quite good
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leads - may eventually go to Regurgitation ?
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<p>Exitted, stopping en route only to dismiss a couple of scrotty
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leads off the side of Elin Algor.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-8">Previous trip</a> /
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<p><a id="id1997-161-22">6/8/97</a> - Pushing below SEP <font size=+1>TU 17
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hr</font><br><u>Dunk</u>, William, Jon
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<p>Pushed below <u>S.E.P.</u><br>
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Whacked in loads of <u>Bolts</u><br>
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Abbed down some <u>Pitches</u><br>
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Found a short <u>phreatic passage</u> "Auspuff"<br>
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with <u>undescended climb</u>at the end<br>
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BLOWS LIKE A BASTARD !
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-17">Previous SEP trip</a> /
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Previous day's <a href="#id1997-161-20">Siberia trip (Fuzzy Logic)</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-24">Next trip (derig)</a>
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<p><a id="id1997-161-24">8/7/97</a> - Derigging SEP
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<p><u>Dunk</u>, William --> TU 11 hour<br>
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Jon, Phil U --> TU 6½ hour
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<p>Derigged.
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<p>Previous trips: <a href="#id1997-161-20">Fuzzy Logic</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-161-22">SEP</a> /
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<a href="../1998/log.htm#id1998-161-5">Next Siberia trip</a> (rig-in 1998)
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<p><a id="id1997-136-11">10/8/97 136</a> - Footlights Traverse Chris &
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<u>Anthony</u>
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<p align=right>TU ~9 hrs
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<p>Finally got underground after a week nursing an injured knee
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(more through boredom than any improvement to the injury).
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Attempted to replace my main beam bulb with the Julian Haines
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lighthouse bulb and in doing so snapped the connector to the
|
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main beam - mutter. So rather than take an FX5 down just for
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the pilot, I caved with my zoom and its dodgy connector as
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back up for my Austrian sand grade carbide - not an auspicious
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start.
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<p>Bumbled down to the theatre box and Chris continued on the
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Footlights Traverse complete with homemade grappling hook - a
|
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crowbar lashed to a 1½m yellow pole. Unfortunately, since
|
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being taken underground, the string by which the crowbar was
|
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attached had got wet, stretched and was thus no use. So the
|
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yellow pole was abandoned, and I watched as Chris teetered across
|
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a chossy and airy traverse, banged in a couple of bolts and found
|
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... no cave whatever. So Chris continued down the wall and found
|
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an eyehole into a chossy little passage, banged another bolt into
|
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its camembert-like walls, and I followed him, only shitting myself
|
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once on the traverse. The passage leads to a loose, uninspiring
|
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looking pitch head, which opens out into a decent shaft with aven
|
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above, which lands on a rock bridge (ie. a jammed boulder) with more
|
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pitch beyond. This whole area is gloop coated and falling apart -
|
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very KH like - and there is a significant draught coming <u>up</u>
|
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the continuing pitch. This is quite a good lead, but we had run out
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of rope.
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<p>Rather than survey out, I pootled out at this point whilst Chris
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drilled some more bolts to improve the rig. Not surveying was probably
|
|
a good thing since it took an astonishingly long time to get out, not
|
|
helped by an ailing leg and too much beer at basecamp the week before.
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|
Also, the big loose flake at the top of the big pitch is no longer a
|
|
problem as Phil kicked most of it off. The remnants of it came whistling
|
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past my ear as I hung on the rebelay below the ledge we wait on before
|
|
ascending the big pitch, causing me to gibber quite a lot, especially
|
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as I could smell freshly fractured rock on the ledge. Phil also
|
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neglected to call pitch free, so I spent quite a while at the bottom
|
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before making a cautious ascent (the rope looks OK). I then gardened
|
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the rest of the rubbish at the pitchhead in the general direction of
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Brian's head to ensure no repeat performance.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-10">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-12">Next trip</a>
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<p><u>Haines Miracle Carbide Cure</u>
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<p>As the glorious expo leader departed, he bequeathed me a few
|
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of his precious items, namely 3 lumps of large carbide (all the
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expo stuff from the Austrians is tiny bitty stuff). This was
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gratefully (and gullibly) received, and used on the above 136 trip.
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<p>And so it was, Footlights Traverse now being bolted, Anthony
|
|
headed out with the spare carbide & I started out lugging
|
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the drill + battery. That's strange, I thought, my light's going
|
|
a bit dim. Fettle. The bitty stuff all gone, but Haines lump was
|
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sat there just as it went in. Magic - everlasting carbide !
|
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Complete with calcite veins ... hmmm, chortle, most amusing.
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Dark thoughts cast in the Haines direction on the dim prusik out.
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<p align=right>C D
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<hr />
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<p align=right><a id="id1997-136-12">TU 9 hrs</a>
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<p>10/8/97 136 To Tirolia via Elin Algor. Brian & Phil B
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<p>Trogged off down the pitches & across the traverse to the
|
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slot and waited for Phil. We both walked along Elin Algor (lead
|
|
off to right up climbable rift with stream descending &
|
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little mud volcanoes - did not push as did not fancy climb due
|
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to state of my shoulder). Came back to climb up through boulders
|
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just after 1st main chamber past junction in Tirolia and
|
|
investigated climb up into roof on left with pitch: whacked
|
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in bolt & sling around natural & lo & behold
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I ended back in main passage - got pissed off & went out.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-11">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-13">Next trip</a>
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<p>12/8/97 <u>Anthony</u> - Pissing about on the surface
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<p>Plan was to put tags on the unmarked 161e and 161f entrances,
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except I left the tags at top camp. Bunged in a spit at 161f
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anyway and tried to do likewise at 161e except a large chunk of
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wall fell off when I tried to set it. Got bored and went to
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retrieve gear from 161d. Whilst failing to find 161f I came
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across lots of holes - this is prime prospecting territory for
|
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anyone wanting to find a more northerly entrance to 161 with
|
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an even more atrocious approach.
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<hr />
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<p>13/8/97 Phil U & <u>Anthony</u> Pissing about on the surface again.
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<p>Planned to surface survey 191->161c, and look for the elusive
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192, which is allegedly marked and in the same area. Took a while to
|
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find 191 and in the process we found 180, which I thought was miles
|
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away. Didn't have a tag for 180, but put in a spit for one and surface
|
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surveyed from there to 191 and back to 161c. Failed to find 192. Took
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photos of 180 and 191, the latter now sports a CUCC tag. Retrieved
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gear from 161d and derigged climbs on surface route and trundled back
|
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to topcamp for a brew, then on to 186 ("Rosenkavalierhöhle").
|
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This is the hole erroneously numbered 185 on the side of the Vord
|
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which Olly & I refound in 1994 and which William had confirmed
|
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as being 186 earlier this expo. The paint has all but disappeared,
|
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but we banged in a CUCC tag and surveyed back to top camp - another
|
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gets ticked. No photo because I'd run out of film.
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<p>Incidentally - The marking at 161c entrance is<br>
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<center><table border=0><tr><td>VSS 2</td><td></td></tr>
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<tr><td><u>88AF</u></td><td></td></tr>
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<tr><td>1623/<u>161c</u></td><td>< added later by CUCC</td></tr></table>
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</center>
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<p>This is similar to the markings on caves H88 and 88F found on
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7/8/97 making me suggest that latter caves are also French.
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<p><a id="id1997-136-14">14/8/97</a> Phil U & <u>Anthony</u> Derig 136
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<br>TU 5 hrs (AD) 2½ hrs (PU)
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<p>Team hero having done the hard bit the day before, team
|
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knackered knees went down and derigged from the traverse to
|
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the eyehole. All the spits are greased, though I couldn't get
|
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the syringe to fill so used my finger. All spits above eyehole
|
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traverse have a matchstick in too. Circlips are shit gear - at
|
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least half the bolts fell out when I unscrewed, but I think I've
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rescued most of them.
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-13">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="../1999/log.htm#id1999-136-1">Next trip - 1999</a>
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<p><a id="id1997-136-13">12/8/97</a> 136 Footlights cont. <u>Chris</u>,
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Brian, John
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<p>Brian & I trolled around Forbidden Land derigging various
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bits & pieces to generate enough rope to drop the pitch at
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the end of Footlights. Having decided this would become a through
|
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route, I tarted up the traverse on the way over to make it more
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comfortable, ie.
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<p>[rigging sketch]
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<p>rather than the precarious rebelays that were used to rig it.
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John & I surveyed in, Brian arrived with rope & went off
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down the first pitch. 30m later he touched the floor: "It's big".
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Oh good. "There's a rope here". Oh bother. Been Hainesed again -
|
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his climb up from the Orchestra Pit finished here. Brian & I
|
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checked out the rift chamber pretty carefully - the draft appears
|
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to drop in somewhere at the southern end, then heads up the pitch
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we'd dropped. One drippy chamber could be seen through a tiny
|
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window - almost certainly the same as the Orchestra Pit. Otherwise
|
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- the entire S end chokes.
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<p>At least it gave us a chance to start the derigging early. Out at
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4 am, back to camp just before dawn, in time for some carries down the
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hill.
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<p align=right>TU Brian, Chris 13<br>John 11
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<p><a href="#id1997-136-12">Previous trip</a> /
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<a href="#id1997-136-14">Next trip (final derig)</a>
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<p><a id="id1997-161-25">11/8/97 KH Moomintroll</a> <u>Jon</u>, Phil
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<p>We went down to have a look at the climb up beyond
|
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Moomintroll. Having taken a drill battery with us we
|
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then found that the drill did not work. There were no
|
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bolting kits either so we went to look anyway.
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<p>We traversed around the terrifying pit (8 ft deep)
|
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and found the climb. Looked at it for a bit and then
|
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I climbed up it. There were only a few loose hand
|
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holds. I rigged a rope for Phil and up he came.
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<p>As expected, there was a large aven. However, there
|
|
was no obvious way on. We sat down for a bit while we
|
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decided what to do next. At this point, some water was
|
|
heard dripping. I went to investigate a tiny tube
|
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where the noise was coming from. After removing a few
|
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rocks the floor dropped away to reveal a 30 ft drop
|
|
into a large space. With a little enlargement someone
|
|
will be able to fit through and see where the draft is
|
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coming from.
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<p align=right>TU 3 hours
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<p><a href="#id1997-161-18">Last Moomintroll trip</a> /
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