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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
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<h1>CUCC Expo: Getting There</h1>
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<p>Expo needs to shift a fair amount of stuff and people to Austria;
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less than we used to, as a lot is stored there, but at least a couple
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of cars are needed to shift kit. And full cars are a reasonable way of
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transporting people. They are also useful in Austria for getting up
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and down the hill. But public transport to expo also works well and
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has become more popular in recent years. Bus, Train and Plane are all
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practical. Details are given below. It costs £75-£200 each way,
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depending how you travel, what mode you use and how far in advance you
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book.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.rome2rio.com/s/London/Bad-Aussee">Rome2Rio</a> gives a useful overview of plausible options.</p>
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<p>You are trying to get to Gasthof Staudnwirt, Grundleseer Strasse 21, Bad Aussee-8990,
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Austria. i.e. <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.61616&mlon=13.81218#map=19/47.61616/13.81218">
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expo is here</a>.</p>
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<p>The last bit: <a href="#lastbit">from Bad Aussee to the campsite</a>
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<h2>By Train</h2>
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<p>This is (these days) pretty easy to arrange and has the advantage
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of allowing for stopping off en route in Paris, Cologne, Frankfurt,
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Munich or Salzbug depending what route you take. But you do need to
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book early for the cheap deals. It can be done in one day if you set
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off very early from London (6am). The limitation is that the last
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train to Bad Aussee arrives 21:43. You can get to Stainach-Irdning
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or Attnang-Puchheim (either end of the branch line through Bad
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Aussee), Stainach is half-an hour drive away to collect, so is not
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too bad. Attnang-Puchheim is 1hr 10m so best reserved for
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emergencies. It's more civilised to set off at comfy time one day,
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spend a night in a city en-route and arrive the next day, or use the
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night-train to Vienna.</p>
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<p>If part of the train journey has a bus replacement service (as in 2018), it can be easier to simply
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get the bus all the way from Salzburg (bus station is at the train station) to Bad Aussee, with a change at Bad Ischl.</p>
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<p>Use bahn.de for timetabling, and Seat61.com for good advice,
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especially if you are not familiar with long-distance rail
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travel. Loco2 is good for buying tickets. Bahn.de is amazing for
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routing, but online can only sell you German train tickets. They
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can sell all tickets via their UK phone number, or you can buy
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online at Loco2.com</p>
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<li><b>Seat61.com</b> <a href="https://www.seat61.com/Austria.htm">http://seat61.com</a></li>
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<li><b>German Railway planner(in English)</b> <a href="https://www.bahn.de/en/view/index.shtml">http://bahn.de/</a></li>
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<li><b>Loco2</b> <a href="https://loco2.com/">https://loco2.com/</a></li>
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<li><b>Autrian Railways</b> <a href="https://oebb.at/en/">http://oebb.at/</a></li>
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<em><p> it's worth repeating the details of the crazy "DB Euro Sparpreis" fares between London St Pancras and anywhere in Germany.
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Salzburg has been annexed by DB and counts as Germany for train purposes.
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These are only available via Brussels so you need to add a stop of around an hour when searching for tickets.
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<p>Paul Fox just paid (2018) €70 all the way from Salzburg to London, including the Eurostar.
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In comparison Eurostar want £88 for a seat on the same train from Brussels to London, so the
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journey across all of Germany was cheaper than free.
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<p>The only catch is that you need to check in with a human at Brussels / London as the Eurostar gates can't read DB ticket barcodes.
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</em>
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<p>The <a href="https://www.bahn.com/en/view/offers/europe/saver-fare-europe.shtml">Euro-Spezial ticket</a>
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is usually the cheapest way to get to Austria. It covers travel from London to anywhere in Germany
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(which includes Salzburg), starting from €40. Breaking your trip at Salzburg can save £100 easily,
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even if you don't actually get off the train there, just change ticket! Book early, though (3 months in advance for best prices).</p>
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<p>There are lots of possible routes. That above seat61 page has details for the most sensible options.</p>
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<p>The last stop before Bad Aussee is Obertraun (from
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Attnang-Puchheim direction), or Kainisch (from Stainach-Irdning
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direction). Don't get off one stop early like someone did in 2015,
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and then decide to walk the extra 10km uphill. Nor set off from the
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station building the wrong way and spend a few hours in the middle
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of the night wandering backroads</p>
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<h3 id="lastbit">Bad Aussee Railway station to Bad Aussee centre and to expo campsite</h3>
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<p>There is a
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<a href="http://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/query.exe/en?revia=yes&existOptimizePrice=1&country=overseas&initialAvail=ON&S=Bad%20Aussee%20Postamt&Z=Bad%20Aussee%20Staudnwirt&start=1">
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bus, 956</a> from Bad Ausee Bahnhof (Station) to 'Grundlesee', timed to meet train arrivals.
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It should be there abou 15 mins after you get off the train.
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It goes straight past the campsite and you can see the times of all the buses posted at the bus stop (a sign with a big "H" in green on a yellow background). Cost is €2.40 (2018). Get off at stop named 'Staudnwirt Gallhof',
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about 100m slightly downhill from, and before the bus reaches, the <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.61616&mlon=13.81218#map=19/47.61616/13.81218">Gasthof/campsite</a>.</p>
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<p>To walk to the centre of town, turn right out of the
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station and just follow your nose up the road (past playing
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fields on the left, keeping left at the only junction, then
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past a petrol station). After about 20 minutes you'll reach
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the main 3-way "roundabout" junction in the centre of town
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mentioned above. You are now at the Post Office ("Postampt") which is on your left as you have walked from the station..
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<p>If you walk this far and now want to get the bus, you can also catch the 956 bus from here.
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The bus stop you want is on the opposite side of the road from the Post Office building.
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Take the 956 which is the only bus that goes to Grundlesee.
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The jouney takes 6 minutes and 'Staudnwirt Gallhof' is the 4th stop.</p>
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<p>It's a little over 3km (2 miles) from the Post Office to Base Camp; to walk, take the exit
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of the roundabout to the right, following signs to Gössl. Now follow
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the route description <a href="#roadbit">given below</a> for this section of road.</p>
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<p>There is a <a href="http://ausseerland.salzkammergut.at/detail/article/15763-narzissenjet.html">taxi service</a>
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for the Bad Aussee region with standard stopping places including the train staton and the Staudnwirt Gasthof.
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It cost €12 one-way in 2017.
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Here is
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<a href="https://ausseerland.salzkammergut.at/fileadmin/_processed_/a/2/csm_Narzissenjetfolder_180410_Karte_620196b749.jpg">
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a map</a> of the stopping points: the Gasthof is #14 and the train station is #27.</p>
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<h2>By Car</h2>
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<h3>Getting to the other side of the Sea</h3>
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<p>This can be the most expensive bit, but with a bit of perseverence and ingenuity, the cost can be minimised. The Ferry is usually quite a lot cheaper than Eurotunnel, and you can get a useful 1hr kip.</p>
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<h4>Some useful links:</h4>
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<b>P&O Stena Line</b> <a href="http://www.posl.com">http://www.posl.com</a>
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Dover-Calais
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<b>P&O North Sea Ferries</b> <a href="http://www.ponsf.com">http://www.ponsf.com</a>
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Hull-Rotterdam
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Hull-Zeebrugge
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<b>Euro Tunnel</b> <a href="http://www.eurotunnel.co.uk">http://www.eurotunnel.co.uk</a>
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Folkestone-Calais/Coquelles
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<b>FerryBooker</b> <a href="http://www.ferrybooker.com">http://www.ferrybooker.com</a>
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Various Routes
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<b>Ferry Savers</b> <a href="https://www.ferrysavers.com">https://www.ferrysavers.com</a>
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Various Routes
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<h3>Driving across Europe</h3>
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<p>This is the tiring bit. There are essentially two routes to choose between, either using the A3 autobahn (let's call this the <b>Northern Route</b>) or the A8 (the <b>Southern Route</b>), although numerous variations are possible. The first part of either route will vary depending upon the port used.</p>
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<h4>From Calais</h4>
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<p>Drive to <b>Dunkerque</b> (Dunkirk) along the <b>E40</b>. To use the <b>Southern Route</b>, head south along the <b>E42</b> to <b>Lille</b>, <b>Mons</b> and then <b>Namur</b>. To use the <b>Northern Route</b>, carry on along the <b>E40</b> towards <b>Oostende</b> (Ostend). Then continue as for the route from <b>Oostende</b>. (Ostend)</p>
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<h4>From Zeebrugge</h4>
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<p>Drive past <b>Brugge</b> (Bruges) on the <b>31</b> until the <b>E40</b> is met. Then continue as for the route from <b>Oostende</b> (Ostend).</p>
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<h4>From Oostende (Ostend)</h4>
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<p>Drive to <b>Brussel/Bruxelles</b> (Brussels) along the <b>E40</b>. The motorway skirts round the north side of the city. To use the <b>Southern Route</b>, take the <b>E411</b> towards <b>Namur</b>. To use the <b>Northern Route</b>, continue along the <b>E40</b> to <b>Liege</b>, <b>Aachen</b> and <b>Köln</b>.</p>
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<h4>From Hoek van Holland (Hook of Holland)</h4>
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<p>Get onto the <b>E25</b>, and head for <b>Rotterdam</b>. Then continue as for the route from <b>Rotterdam</b>.</p>
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<h4>From Rotterdam</h4>
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<p><i>Either</i> Head towards <b>Dordercht</b> and get on the <b>E31</b>. Head towards <b>Gorinchen</b>, <b>Tiel</b>, and then <b>Arnhem</b>.</p>
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<p><i>Or</i> Follow the <b>E25</b> towards <b>Gouda</b>, and then the <b>E25/E30</b> Past <b>Utrecht</b> and on to <b>Arnhem</b>.</p>
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<p><i>Then</i> Follow the <b>E35</b> from <b>Arnhem</b> via <b>Gelsenkchn</b>, <b>Duisberg</b> and <b>Düsseldorf</b> to <b>Köln</b>.</p>
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<h4>The Southern Route (From Namur)</h4>
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<p>Head south on the <b>E41</b> towards <b>Neufchateu</b>, <b>Arlon</b> and
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<b>Luxembourg</b> (Luxemburg). Then there is a selection of possible routes
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past <b>Saarbrucken</b>, then <b>Pirmasens</b> and off the motorway to
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<b>Landau</b> and on to <b>Karlsruhe</b>. After that follow the A8 all the
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way across Germany - <b>Stuttgart</b> (stop off to see ARGE members here if you like),
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<b>Ulm</b>, <b>Augsberg</b><b>München</b>, <b>Salzburg</b>. If you want to stick
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with the motor rules then get off just before the border and drive through Salzburg
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- this is actually quite easy and not usually too busy outside the rush hour. Otherwise
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follow the A1 to <b>Mondsee</b>, the 154 to <b>St. Gilgen</b>, the 158 to
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<b>Bad Ischl</b>, the 145 to <b>Bad Ausee</b> over the Pötschen Paß.</p>
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<h4>The Northern Route (From Köln)</h4>
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<p>The <b>A3</b> autobahn runs from <b>Köln</b> all the way to the border with Austria, passing <b>Siegburg</b>, <b>Limburg</b>, <b>Frankfurt</b>, <b>Aschaffenburg</b>, <b>Würzburg</b>, <b>Nürnberg</b>, <b>Regensburg</b>, <b>Deggendorf</b> and <b>Passau</b>. In Austria, the autobahn continues as the Austrian <b>A8</b>. About 20 miles into Austria, turn off to <b>Ried</b>. From this point, the rest of the route is on much smaller roads, a welcome relief after endless motorways, and the scenery starts to become distinctly alpine. Follow the <b>143</b> via <b>Eberschwang</b>, <b>Ampfelwang</b>, <b>Vöcklabruck</b> and <b>Gmunden</b>, where the <b>145</b> is picked up. Follow the <b>145</b> via <b>Altmunster</b>, <b>Traunkirchen</b>, <b>Ebensee</b> and <b>Weissenbach</b> to <b>Bad Ischl</b>. You're nearly there now - only <b>The Last Bit</b> left to go.</p>
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<h4>From Bad Ischl to Bad Aussee centre</h4> <p>Follow the <b>145</b>
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via <b>Bad Goisern</b> and over the <b>Pötschen Pass</b>. On
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descending from the pass, there are two turnings for <b>Bad Aussee</b>.
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The first turning, on the left, descends a very steep hill, and then
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crosses a bridge over a river. Carry on straight ahead after the
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bridge to reach the town centre. The second turning for <b>Bad
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Aussee</b> is to the right. At the bottom of the sliproad, turn right
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again to pass back under the <b>145</b> and follow the road into the
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town centre. Both routes meet up in the town centre at a peculiar three-way junction. There seem to be no obvious
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rules here, except not to bump into anything.
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<h4 id="#roadbit">Bad Aussee centre to Base Camp</h4>
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From the three-way junction, which is just by the Post Office ("Postampt"), follow the sign to
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<b>Gössl</b>, passing immediately through a very narrow section of road
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with traffic lights to control the flow of traffic. The road crosses a
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river, and shortly after swings left and then right, around a blind
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corner, before leaving the town. After about 2 miles of pleasant
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meandering through woods and meadows, look out for <b>Gasthof
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Staudnwirt</b> on the left. <b>Base Camp</b> is <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.61616&mlon=13.81218#map=19/47.61616/13.81218">in the field on the
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right</a>, opposite the Gasthof.</p>
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<h2>By Air</h2>
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<p>This is getting to be a reasonably priced option, but gear still
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needs to find its way to Austria, and we need enough cars out there to
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ensure a free flow of cavers up and down the toll road.</p>
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<p>Cheap flights are available to Munich and Salzburg. Salzburg is
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closer, but has fewer flights and may even be more expensive. The
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extra cost difference to Munich on the railways seems to be very
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little. In 2000, a return from Munich to Bad Aussee on the train
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was about 23ukp.</p>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.bahn.de/">German railway website</a> is
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excellent for planning journeys in both Germany and Austria.
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Remember to buy a ticket before getting on the train.</p>
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<h3>Munich Airport to Bad Aussee</h3>
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<p>From Munich airport, there's a shuttle bus to the main railway station
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(München Hbf) from where you can take a train which stops at
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Attnang-Puchheim. Now follow the description below from this point.</p>
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<h3>Salzburg Airport to Bad Aussee</h3>
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<p>Take a bus to the main railway station (Salzburg Hbf) and a train to
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<b>Attnang-Puchheim</b>. The train will probably be bound for
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Wein (Vienna). Change at Attnang-Puchheim and get on a local
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train to <b>Bad Aussee</b>. This train will probably be bound
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for Stainach-Irdning. A Salzburg->Bad Aussee ticket should be about €20/£14.</p>
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<p>Train changes can be tight (only a couple of minutes); the platform numbers
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are given on the timetables on the station platforms.</p>
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<p>Once on the train for Bad Aussee, you've got a couple of hours until
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you arrive. The journey is very pleasant, and the scenery improves as
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the journey goes on. Half an hour before Bad Aussee, the train skirts
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the edge of the large lake adjacent to the village of <b>Hallstatt</b>,
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visible across the water. The flanks of the Dachstein range can be
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seen from here. A short while later, whilst passing through a wooded
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valley after <b>Obertraun</b> station, you can catch a glimpse of the huge
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amount of water which pours from <b>Koppenbrühlehöhle</b> on the
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right-hand side. The train continues for a few minutes to arrive at Bad
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Aussee.</p>
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<h3>The Last Bit</h3>
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<p>See 'Bad Aussee Railway <a href="#lastbit">station to expo campsite</a>' in Train section above</p>
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<h2>By Bus</h2>
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<p>Bus can be the cheapest way to get to expo (and probably the
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lowest-carbon). Not as nice as the train, but
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practical. It takes about 30 hours. International buses to
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Linz (on the route to 'Vienna'/'Wien') exist, otherwise Munich (£50)
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or Zurich (£75). Then get either train or National bus onwards. Bus
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London - Zurich, then night train to Steinach-Irdning
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(£40) is a reasonable option. Not all of these buses go every
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day. If booking at short notice bus can be excellent value.</p>
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http://www.europebus.co.uk/austria/ (To Linz)
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https://www.flixbus.com/ (To Munich and Zurich)
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http://www.checkmybus.co.uk
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<h2>By Bicycle</h2>
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<p>This has been done twice, first by Dave Fearon in 1992, who took 9
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days (return to UK only), and more recently by Brian Outram in a more
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leisurely 16 days (I think).</p>
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