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<h3>UNMARKED CAVES</h3>
Even though many of the caves here have bearings, they have not been seen
by anyone on recent expeditions, and in some cases have not been found in
searches for them using the bearings given.
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<caption align=top>Caves believed to be unmarked, locations uncertain</caption>
<tr><th>CUCC #</th><th>1623/</th><th>info</th></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../plateau/89.htm">89</a>
</td><td>Out from <a href="../plateau/97.htm">97</a> somewhere</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../br-alm/95.htm">95</a>
</td><td>Very insignificant cave - may not have been numbered.
south of <a href="../tcamps.htm#1977camp">1977 Top Camp</a>.</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../remote/108.htm">108</a>
</td><td>BN 200&deg; VSK 175&deg; BZ 235&deg;</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../smkridge/146.htm">146</a>
</td><td>Probably unexplored</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../smkridge/149.htm">149</a>
</td><td>Needs looking at again</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../smkridge/157.htm">157</a>
</td><td>Pirat Schacht -believed unmarked,
probably should never have had
an "Austrian" number, as we believe it was either<br>
a) explored by someone else or<br>
b) leads into another known cave (whose number it should share)<br>
About 6m above 0/5 which Olly couldn't find. This needs investigating as it
had spits inside which were thought not to be CUCC ones, but which might be<br>
a) CUCC spits in cave 107 (in which case do survey, document
it, call it 107B)<br>
b) "Foreign" spits -investigate and document under number 157<br>
c) Austrian spits (unlikely), in which case remove number 157
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<tr><td>CUCC 1990/7</td><td><a href="../plateau/177.htm">177</a>
</td><td>BN 215&deg; BZ 234&deg; Sch 332&deg;<br>
There is a shaft somewhere nearby which has "177" painted in blue on a
loose rock of 1995 vintage, however, this is *NOT*, in fact, 177 (the
likelihood that this was the case is why AERW marked a loose rock and not
the wall of the shaft).</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1990/8</td><td><a href="../plateau/178.htm">178</a>
</td><td>BN 229&deg; BZ 239&deg; Sch 330&deg; Nip 210&deg;</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td><a href="../smkridge/193.htm">193</a>
</td><td>Marked with hammered cross, but no number, 1995.
Vaguely NE of VSK</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../kratzer/a1.htm">A1</a>
</td><td></td><td>Probably in Kratzer below col</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../kratzer/b1.htm">B1</a>
</td><td></td><td>Probably in Kratzer below col,
although any of the A1/B1/B2 group could
be on the other path up from Br&auml;uning Alm</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../kratzer/b2.htm">B2</a>
</td><td></td><td>Probably in Kratzer below col</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../kratzer/b3.htm">B3</a>
</td><td></td><td>BN 280&deg; Loser 238&deg;<br>
Supposedly down valley from <a href="../kratzer/b4.htm">B4</a>, which has
been found. The bearing to "Loser" is probably really to Sommersitz</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../kratzer/b5.htm">B5</a>
</td><td></td><td>Apparently unmarked, but may say B5 in red or orange.<br>
Should, in fact, say "<a href="../noinfo/kratzer/74.htm">74</a>" as this
appears to be the same cave.</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1976 <a href="../plateau/b6.htm">B6</a>
</td><td></td><td>Supposedly "right on the col." Could be
<a href="../noinfo/kratzer/36.htm">1623/36</a> (unlikely)</td></tr>
<tr><td>CUCC 1989/01</td><td></td><td>Bearings: BN 222&deg;, Sch 322&deg;<br>
One north of <a href="../smkridge/165.htm">165</a> with very big drop, may be
same as <a href="../smkridge/195.htm">195</a>, had non-CUCC bolt </td></tr>
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In the table (and the cave descriptions), bearings are quoted with a series
of standard <a href="abbrev.htm">abbreviations for landmarks</a>, which gives
a good indication of which ones are most useful.
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