Finally got to the pushing front in Siberia. Someone Else's Problem is
fucking big. Whacked in some bolts and threw William down on a bit of rope.
No sign of the bottom - estimate about 50m. Came back out to darkness and
pissing rain. Siberia is in fact dead nice. A bit blowy, but dead nice - lots
of sculpted flakes of rock, and quite a lot of ?s all over the place.
1997-07-31 | 136 - Steinschlagschact | Tony, Becka
TU Tony 7 hrs, Becka 8 hrs
We went down ~same time as Julian + Anthony, we'd split a 200m rope
between us to rig each of our 2 routes. J & A bombed off with the drill
through the Eyehole route whilst Tony put another bolt on the opposite wall
to the end of the traverse. We went down the damper route, though the Y-hang
was well away from the water. Down to ledge in the rift, walked along it
~10m, found an 83/84 bolt. Tony down that, put a rebelay bolt over the lip,
moaned quite a bit about dead legs and down another short pitch. Along a
ledge R ~10m again, still stringing along our 100m rope and .....
der-der-der-duurh, we think we found the "Phreatic Phantasy" level. A few
widgy 1 metre (max) diameter tubes going off at quite steep (?60° or so)
angles which intersected with the main shaft. I furtled around for quite a
time rigged off various so-so naturals, to see if anything promising went
off. Nothing really seemed to be drafting they were quite mud-filled. I
rigged the next little pitch off 3 naturals and swung around and around some
more to various odd holes. Snapped off a v. fine white stal. squeezing into
an unpromising rifty-hole, sadly.
[detailed sketch of cave entitled: Fantasy Frigging Freatic Level]
Oh dear. Out to the traverse line, met the other 2 who'd bombed down and
bombed out, surveying. Tony went out. Julian, Anthony and I went back down
our route to survey it as far as a knobble (CM) above and on the wall by the
2nd natural (see plan over). Oh, except Anthony ballsed up and didn't get a
compass for that leg. Everyone turned their noses up at my phreatics then we
prussiked out with loads of drill gear which was bloody heavy. I ended up
with 2 tacklesacks on the entrance pitch with the usual CUCC 2m donkey dicks
on which meant they swung nicely into all the ungardened choss on the
traverse line at the top. Crash, rumble, crash. "You still there Anthony?"
Dour grumbles from the farthest corner of the cave. Out to thunder,
lightning and downpour. Walked down in caving gear. Yum,yum.
Previous trip -
Dry route trip (same day) -
Next (connection) trip
27/07/97 Sam, Adam
Surveying upstream in Lost World
Discovered a section of large passage containing many mud
formations and showing evidence of backing up. Very sump-like. Much of
passage (named Bournville Lakes?) was ~5m wide, highly linear and v. tall,
hading slightly. Dived off down, even more sump-like, entering a tube before
leading ultimately to a small mud-choked bit. The water had cut deep trenches
in mud banks but seemed to seep into choss in the floor. Surveyed this lot so
didn't have time to complete the whole upstream survey.
(Survey continued William & Sam)
Adam
(28/7 - written up earlier)
T/U 7 hrs
Previous trip /
Next trips
29/7/97 Sam's rift at top of K(l?)ein Zimmer
Tony, Jon, Adam
Went with drill to push over the 1st pit (Sam did before, blind pit).
Bolted down 2nd pit, clearing choss on the way. Approx 20m deep before
choked. Adam bolted up to the last bolt before suggesting Jon continued. He
did - it went about 10 feet! Went out - Tony frozen. Needs further push for
3rd pit!
T/UG 5 hrs Adam
Previous trip /
136 trip (same day) /
Next trip
30/07/97 Surface ramblings Tony, Adam
Went round the Augstwies side for a look around, starting at 201 level.
Lots of bunde bashing and following Bambi tracks up ridiculous slopes.
Located (1) a tube
(2) a cave CUCC 1997 # 1 ... (see KH survey book, sorry)
Both are in the cliff which 161d sits in. The tube was too high - need to ab in. The cave is 30m long and may draught slightly. Worth a dig as it is
~30m lower & 20m S of 161d. It is phreatic.
Sketched some surface features to the limit of my ability. See non-KH
survey book.
Adam
T/U 30 mins
31/7/97 Steinschlagschacht (136)
Julian H + Anthony.
TU 8 hours
Bombed down the "Eyehole Route" as far as the limit of the trip on 29/7/97
to find Julian putting in more bolts at the head of the next pitch Some time
and 3 bolts later, a distant "pitch free" was heard & I followed. Pitch
is approx. 60m with deviation & 2 rebelays. The last 45m is down the wall
of a jolly large chamber. (roof not visible from top rebelay (at least 65m
high) chamber appears to be part of an enormous rift, ~10m wide and 20m long,
choked at either end. At the southern end, a hole is visible ~10m off the
ground, possibly accessible by a chossy climb which neither of us fancied our
chances of getting back down again without a rope. A hole under the far wall
of the chamber from where the rope lands leads to the foot of a drippy aven
with no other visible leads. Survey data puts this lot at -257m from 136
entrance and ~30m below the level of Forbidden Land. No obvious draught,
though the big pitch is quite breezy. Undid the last 2 rebelays on the way
out with a view to hauling the rope out from the top later.
Previous trip /
Wet route trip (same day) /
Next (connection) trip
30/7/97 Siberia
JON, DUNCAN TU 7½ hrs
I was talked into going to Siberia with Duncan. There were plenty of
comments like "Its not that cold", "Burble Crawl is not too bad" and the
like. It was in fact one of my best trips and I was warm. This was the first
time I did not need a hat and gloves. We went in through Triassic Park and
into Knossos. All nice and big. Then Burble Crawl. Not too small but .. its
uphill for 100m. Vom Pitch followed. We were glad to get out of this place at
the bottom, lots of bits fell off including what we rigged off. Duncan found
the way on and off we went. (There is also a hole at the bottom of the pitch.
Possible lead!) Found a windy passage. I got cold while Duncan rigged then we
went out to meet our call out.
Previous trip /
Next trip
Dunk, Anthony
26/7/97 Team Lardis Time Travel to Expo
Smaller than it looks on the inside. Travels along right angles in space
time. Got to Dover so fast we reckoned we'd catch the earlier ferry.
Unfortunately the last 2 miles to the docks took 1½ hours therefore
caught ¼ to 3 ferry.
Once in France Anthrax, Megadeth and Halloween kept us awake for a while.
Incidental note!
Fuel consumption against speed for Lada Riva 1.3 !
[funny graph follows]
Some fat Kraut tried to shove us off the Autobahn, but we arrived OK.
Last and final bit of Magic Jumars 30/7/96
Sam Lieberman and Mike Richardson
First trip down Magic Jumars (in fact first trip down Alternative
Universe) before we'd even got to the pitch series we spotted a V. V. good
lead requiring a bolt traverse (Anthony, Dave shits muesli, there was an
awful lot of Dave knowledgeable bullshit going on not to mention a "pendule")
spot the pissed ramblings in log book). Meanwhile back in the cave....
[map drawn here]
Having descended the pitches Sam took off his SRT gear and squeezed
through the rift at the end. There was a gorgeous echo (worthy of a Welsh
choir) but the rift got too tight errrrrrr................ well a team of
dehydrated midgets might get through - derigged in the well dripping pitches.
TU for Mike 6 hours
Previous Alternative Universe trip
Sam Re-rigging Where the Wind Blows
30/7/97
After de-rigging Alternative Universe, Mike headed out from the
Guillotine, with some time in hand I decided to go and recover my tape slings
and re-rig the traverses and hand-lines in Puerile Humour - boring stuff
really. Ran down Triassic/Puerile Humour did the re-rigging/collected the
spare ropes and ran back down Triassic.
TU including Alt.Uni trip 7 ½ hours.
Previous WTWB trip /
Next trip
3/8/97 Swiss Alpinists arrive...
Chris Densham, Mary Lane (Fran's sister), Mike Baslington (Juliette Kelly's
4C's buddy)
Just left the Swiss Alps after 2 weeks very pleasant climbing. Just
trogging up the hill to see about doing some caving. Chris
2/8/97 some rambling/digging/surface rigging
Adam
Claggy weather so went to
(1) rig/insert spits for an ab off from Scar Face to below the cliff for
a) surveying down lower
b) rescue evacuation to a helicopter landing
(2) dig the back of 1997/01
Results
(1) rescue rig not completed. Ran out of rope and cones (dropped one :-( ).
So far one spit + 4m and 3m north of 161d for traverse round + 2 spits ~ 15m
N & below at top of grassy swathe. 40m rope from these takes you through
relatively choss free and bunder free region ending on a steep cliff face
where 2 more spits are needed for a ~ 30m? drop down to walking terrain.
(2) Dig 4m gained but needs more effort to continue to shift sandy floor
& more cobbles back in passage. No draft perceived.
A walking route to the bottom of the Scarface cliff.
Climb approx 15ft above the entrance to 161d, on the path, contour left
(southish), aiming at a grassy band below a cliff. Drop diagonally down this
grassy band, until an incised gully* (quite narrow) is reached which affords
a scramble downwards to a more level patch of broken ground. Contour round
& up slightly to the bottom of the cliff.
*Just after entering the gully, a cave entrance behind and to your right
(facing down) is seen (entered - no way on ~ 12m of passage & fractured
rock floor. Not tagged.) Lower down on the R, right in the gully is another
(undescended) cave.
Another small cave at the cliff base
Another cave of water worn origin was investigated, (very) approx 150m S
of 161d at the base of the cliff. It is dead straight on a bearing ~ 290°
and dips at -30° from the entrance. Dimensions approx 0m5 wide, varying
in height from ~1m50 to 0m5. Cobble floored. Length approx 16m. Ends in
rubble at floor level & 2 impassable slots above. Seems to draft
slightly. Marked "+" and '97/2" in carbide, not tagged.
Time U/G ~ 1hr
2/8/97 Julian H / Becka T/U 7 hours
136 - Steinschlagschacht
CONNECTION Trip!
Everyone was nursing non-existent post-dinner hangovers in the rain, but
Julian + I + Adam, being mugs, headed up the hill. Clag + drizzle. Oh well,
we'll walk to top camp, brew up, and psyche ourselves up. I climb into my
soaking Alpinex, after my last 136 trip, I was trying to dry it, ended up
just making myself miserable, but a good dose of Tom Yam noodles soon sorted
us out. Tootled up to 136, bombed on down - gone 2pm! round the Eyehole route
to the top of the pitch series into the big chamber. Julian gets the drill
out + sweats + strains over a nightmare traverse over a great slab of chossy
80( rock, 50m above the deck. I get cold. Occasionally I make helpful
comments like "Do you really need another bolt? Can't you just swing over
from there?" and rack my brain for conciliatory phrases after the traverse
goes nowhere, "Well at least we know how many bolts the drill does now," "It
was a fine view anyway", "Good practice for the real thing" etc. etc.
Eventually Julian disappears over the edge, swings over to another rock
bridge, and I can footle over. I'm frozen + Julian is shagged so I get to do
a loose 6m hang off a dodgy natural down to a chossy mud slope. Julian is
enthusiastic about a vague shadow on the far wall. I try not to get too
pessimistic. I get down, the 'way on' looks like a loosely bouldered alcove.
I start screeching, at Julian, "Look, look!" "What?" "Look!" I've spotted a
huge CM13, we've made the 161 connection to the Forbidden land, yelp.
I go hollering off down the next chamber whilst Julian whacked in a couple
more bolts for the final pitch, then we both went off for a tourist.
We headed towards Elin Algor, but it got v. loose boulder choke. Then we
played around down Tirolia Werke as far as the pitch + poked around some
QMs. Then we surveyed from the QM13 to Anthony's last point, as we were
good bods! Then we went home, prussik, prussik, prussik. Thought there
wouldn't be anyone at Top Camp to brag to, but no, every tent was stuffed to
the gills so we kept up all the Off-To-The-Far-End-At-6.30AM-Tomorrow-Morning
Team up as we pigged out on tortellini again. A fine trip on a dreary day -
KH over 500m + a new entrance!!!
Previous trip /
Next trips (into 161): Forbidden Land &
Gravel Pit /
Next 136 push
3/8/97 Julian, Anthony, Becka T/U 8
hrs
136 Steinschlagschacht
Team keen up at 6.30 which meant all of Top Camp was up & around
by 7.30 & I was the last to leave Top Camp at 9.30 or so.
What is CUCC coming to ? We three beat William + Andrew down 136 + headed
off down the wet (Original) Route [ to be called Wet Dreams, and passing
through Fhantasy Phreatics level ?] to continue the survey down. I rigged
until I'd finished the 100m rope (which had started at the Y-hang of the
traverse, where the Eyehole Route splits off). This is 2 pitches off bolts,
one off naturals & then 3 more rebelays off increasingly dodgy bolts.
No shortage of 83/84 bolts - often two within a metre of each other, but
some impressively lousy placements, bolts sticking out miles, wet hangs,
etc. etc. Still, it must have been miserable rigging it in the first
place. The Wet Route is smaller than the shaft series above the traverse,
& apart from the piddly phreatics, it is down, down, with spray + a
series of ledges ~10m apart. Finished the survey (a resurvey from the Y-hang
would be worth it, if the wet route ever goes anywhere!) & then we
derigged the 100m (which was the point of all the above) & went down the
Eye-Hole route & rigged the 100m into the Big Chamber. I did the traverse
& had a look at the drop.
[ sketch showing location of a QM near connection point ]
QM SHOULD BE DONE, GOOD POTENTIAL + drop of ?20m into rifty passage from
the bridge before the final ~6m pitch to the Forbidden World connection.
However, I didn't have a bolting kit + the rock was really chossy so I
went back. People in the chamber look really tiny from 45m up on the
traverse. Down to the Big Chamber to meet the others, a jolly free hang.
Julian had drilled his way up the mud/rock to get to a hole at the south
end of the chamber, but it went nowhere. He left the rope on it.
[sketch plan ]
I looked around the chamber q. carefully. The only lead I could find
was through (down) the boulder climb (q. stable, big rocks) q. a long way
(10-20m) to a q. strongly drafting rift/pitch which would need a bit of
hammering to go (or maybe you could get into it from another spot through
the boulders). Back out, de-rigged the 100m (again!) + left it on the top
of the traverse (well, it might be useful there!) + the drill (see previous
excuse) & ambled on out. My last trip! Anthony's knee now thoroughly
knackered.
Previous trip /
Gravel Pit trip (same day) /
Next 136 push
3 Aug 97 Push/Survey Wookey's 1996 lead in
Forbidden Land "The Gravel Pit"
William Stead, Andrew Atkinson.
The original plan had been for Mike (Animal) to go with Andrew via
Stairway to Hell, special permission having been sought from Tina.
However, new way through from 136 means lots of prussiking, so I was
drafted in instead. Went via Kaninchenhöhle to pick up SRT kit to
find team Keen still not fully underground & returned to 136
entrance to find Julian & Anthony taking the piss over a half-changed
Becka (or vice-versa). Followed Julian, Anthony & Becka underground
ca 11.30 am & did lots of abseiling down to the bolt traverse
followed by a lot more abseiling & a 100% wacky, way-out traverse
miles up in the ceiling to reach ... The Forbidden Land. Headed South
towards Wookey's lead via a 5m pitch Andy had forgotten about. At this
point my penknife came in handy to cut the rope we'd brought. Continued
down Wookey's lead to find ourselves in a medium size chamber where the
floor + walls comprised entirely gravel or choss (The Gravel Pit).
Looked down a pit in the floor where the take off was also 100% choss,
no chance of rigging it + too steep to climb. So we went round to the left
between more gravel banks to find a pitch with a stream coming in.
Andy used the bolt kit I'd picked up from KH entrance to rig it + kicked
loads of choss down. At the base of the pitch is a small chamber + a
climb down with the water. Passage continues in walking vadose trench to
where the water disappears under the stones. Passage continues to an aven
+ a small chamber with lots of mud + a choked mud sump. Pity. Surveyed out,
with me on instruments until my glasses misted up, so swapped. Surveyed
back to original lower bolt. NB took a look at an alternative way
to the choss hole in the floor where there is a solid boulder in the
roof to rig off. This seems to go somewhere else + should be pushed (A).
Out at sundown via lots of prussiking + getting v.hot.
T.U. 9 hrs
Previous trip /
Forbidden Land trip (same day)
Next 136 push
3-8-97 Duncan, Jon, Andrew K, Phil U. TU
14
Someone Else's Problem
Picked up 75m of 9 mil at the Guillotine. Then went to retrieve Andrew
from the far end of Salt Lake, while Jon + Phil set off to survey to SEP.
Faff, Faff, Faff. Eventually the survey to the pitchhead was complete
and descents had begun. Wibble, Wibble went the cavers. Twang, Twang, went
the 9 mil. F***ING BIG SHAFT. Only rubs a little bit half way up. (Fettled
with a loopless rebelay off of a spike on the way out.) The rope was just
reachable after unloading it.
LEADS: (1) Down short climb, traverse across head of another climb into
a draughting crawl.
(2) Down same climb, climb down again, then down 5m pitch. Undescended ~15m
pitch with wind farting up it.
Previous trip /
Next SEP trip /
Next Siberia trip (Fuzzy Logic)
3.8.97 Dave H & Mike R TU 5½ hrs
Aim:- to bolt up at Moomintroll
No problems getting to Moomintroll but the traverse around the right
hand side of Zebedee is a bit hairy in that it is horribly loose and all
the holds come off in your hand. The climb up is pretty impressive, a
good big black space waiting to be explored, but it is not clear whether
it just goes up and up.
At any rate we looked at the climb, reckoned that with a bit of bottle
and a climbing rope it would be no problem to get up it, but as we had
neither we had to start bolting. Put the first bolt in, about 5 ft up.
Unfortunately, at this point I dropped the driver down a small crack.
Should be able to get it back with a coat hanger.
At this point we decided that it would be much easier with a drill and
that it might be a good idea to jack. I made sure the jack was certain by
hitting the entry to Hymen Crawl with the hammer & snapping the head
off.
As we had only been down the cave 2½ hrs we needed something else
to do. So on the way back we climbed up to the left just after the two holes
in the floor near the start of Wheelchair Access. There looks to be a roof
tube going off at this point but we failed to climb into it. Mike had a look
at some other small tubes going off and found some surface debris & bits
of skeleton, but it closed down after about 6 ft.
We still had more time to kill so looked down the two holes that you
traverse across just before you reach Moth Chamber and the short climb up
in Triassic. The two holes connect, lead to a 1.5m climb down to the
head of a pitch. Unfortunately, this just drops into Wheelchair Access,
and needs surveying.
Dave
Next Moomintroll trip /
Other trips (same day): 136 Forbidden Land /
136 Gravel Pit / Siberia
4/8/97 Dave H, Mike B, Chris D, Mary,
Juliette
Wheelchair Access -> Lost World to survey the downstream end
TU Dave H, Mike & Juliette 9 hrs
TU Chris D, Mary 7 hrs
Rather a slow trip, didn't get underground until 1 pm. Even then
everything went really slowly, taking almost an hour to get from the
entrance to the start of Wheelchair Access. The new route into Wheelchair
Access needs surveying, but me and Mike, who'd got bored and gone on
ahead didn't have the gear.
We headed on down to Lost World as a group of five, once we got to
the big stuff, as it seemed to be taking ages for everyone to get down
the last 5m pitch I took Mike for a quick tour of the upstream stuff.
On returning, the others had disappeared downstream so we buggered off
after them, to catch up in he boulder choke.
At this point Mary and Chris decided to go out as it was getting late
& Mary thought she would be slow. This left me , Mike and Juliet to do
the survey, and me t have my third ever go at doing book.
We pushed through the boulders, down a climb and eventually found the
pitch into the chamber. Got off the pitch part way as soon as we could step
into the big chamber, but the pitch continues below. Found the Germans' G
find survey mark and survey left as you look into the chamber. This ends at
an aven, with water coming in. I then surveyed back underneath what I'd just
done, but at stream level ending up roughly back close to the pitch. From
here two possible ways go off. To the left a long straight rift taking the
small stream. The boulder floor drops and the stream disappears under the
right hand wall and the passage is not enterable. The rift continues, but you
are now ascending boulders, and soon the roof is seen which descends to meet
the floor.
To the right a short piece of rift with water entering down one wall, soon
ends in a deep pool (marked a survey station with a cross on the wall at this
point - no. 16 on the left hand wall as you face the pool).
Mike waded across the pool, shallowest along the left wall to find an
inlet stream. Looking at our survey and Becka's description of her trip with
the Germans, I think this inlet is the continuation of the pitch into the
chamber - but this needs checking.
There are no other obvious leads except this inlet in the chamber.
As it was now getting rather late we couldn't:
(1) Do some tie up legs I wanted to do
(2) check the continuation of the pitch into the chamber.
(3) Derig.
So we headed out. As we'd bombed down through the boulders really quickly
we'd not taken much notice of the way out. At one point, there is an
unobvious climb up t the right - which is the way out - however it is much
more obvious to climb up through the large spaces in the boulders to the left
- this ended in a large rift pitch, which, looking at our survey, may or may
not connect back into the left hand rift continuation of the large chamber.
We soon found the real way out and 'cos I'm getting lots of hassle about
writing too much I'll just say it took ages to get out.
Things to note when derigging:
There is tackle up a climb on the left, as you go downstream near a rock
bridge marked with a tackle bag. This may be interesting as it seems to
be heading away from the large chamber.
It also needs surveying.
Previous trip /
Next (derigging) trip
5/8/97 Surveying Siberia Left hand branch
Phil U, Phil B, Brian, Andrew K
TU 11½
Fairly swift journey in. Tried to fix previous Siberia survey up to
genuine survey station, but couldn't find CM labelled 'end', so settled
for CM not labelled 'not this ...' (point 2 of last Siberia
survey a few years back).
Set off up LH route - lots of mazy phreatic passage connecting at
insane angles with a loop or two. Now X-ened 'Fuzzy Logic'.
Rough description: LH branch off Not This Junction turn sharp left.
Passage follows rift for a few metres before turning left again. Rift
continues straight ahead, but looks too narrow to push. Small opening
on right before left hand turn quickly chokes with mud. Left hand turn
leads into Y-junction with swirlpool at intersection. Left leads to
steep phreatic tube; this connects back into right hand turn. Right turn
leads to connection with left hand turn, then into complicated rift
junction. Rift pitches up to left and down to left probably connect up;
this is a going lead. Right hand small hole leads into left hand rift and
small passages connecting back up the passage, but it is v. tight.
Not having a rope to hand, we went back to poke around in some
Siberia leads, brief sketch of crossroads on the way to SEP follows:
[ sketch of Greengables ]
RH passage leads into small chamber with easily climbable (at least
for a while) rift off to left and small passage to right.
Middle passage leads into rift junction. High LH passage connects back
into route to SEP, straight on in a loop also connecting back to SEP route.
Right leads into oval shaped rift with ~6m aven at far end. Small passages
off to left of SEP route connect up in easy crawl in muddy phreatic
passage which does not appear to close down - 'Burble II - the Mud strikes
back'.
At this point it was 1800, so we chugged on out in order to get back
at a sensible time.
Previous trip /
Next SEP trip /
1997 derig trip /
Next pushing trip in Fuzzy Logic
(1998)
1 3 6 5th Aug '97
Steinschlagschacht
Chris D, Andy A
First trip in this hole for me - far less chossy than feared, due to
latest bolting techniques no doubt. Down to pit at connection between 136 +
KH - bolted down 'Distraction' - swing across to a window, down to drippy
drafty chamber - with footprints. We'd reached the Orchestra Pit. Surveyed
& derigged (50m vert.) then went off to the Gravel Pit. Bizzare place,
walls of eroded stuck together gravel. Dried up stream sported a STONKING
DRAFT - all it needs is a crowbar to open it up a bit. This must be done
soon ! Alas we had no crowbar. So we put in our penultimate bolt in the
only solid wall in the area & dropped down to a squitty streamway. "Have
a look at it if you want, I'm too fat" said AA. So I grovelled in until
enthusiasm waned after 30 mins or so. Then AA continued the flat out crawl in
water until that choked too. A Grand Canyon it was not. Saved the seventh
& final bolt to take out the rub to the core I'd noticed on the 2nd
pitch. Good trip, shame nothing went.
Previous trip /
Next trip
161d Chris & Mary 6th August 1997
Went to Staudnwirt Palace, climbed up miserable climb, bits of it fell
off at embarassing moments, de-rigged two ropes and retrieved Julian's gear
for price of two beers.
TU 4 hrs
7th August '97
Steinschlagschacht Julian, Chris
Tripped our way down to the 'Y' hang above 'Traverse of the Gods'. Set
about bolting over the top - straight over ? No - left horrible climb up
carrying drill, tacklesack etc., over the top to a high level chamber over
the pitch. Through a window, down pitch to 'The Box' - superb view across to
'Traverse of the Gods', and tried to bolt the 'Footlights' traverse across
the 'Theatre'. Got half way across - an imposing situation that ended in
overhanging choss. Oh dear. Need some magical method of getting across the
choss to the mythical window that heads south to Stellerweg.
TU 8 hrs
Previous trip /
Next trip
7th Aug 97
Dave H, Anthony, Andy A, Juliet
walking around the area of 136, putting tags on stuff [Tagged 136, 138,
139, 97-07 (formerly WK7), 97-08 (formerly WK8,9,10)], taking photos of
entrances and finding new cave. Near 163, which has some nice ice
formations, we found a couple of interesting things. A going hole
numbered
1623/
H88
which we think is one found by the French or more likely the Germans.
As we came traversing back we found
1623/
88 F -
This looks very promising, it looked undescended, is a hole in the cliff
face immediately turning into a rift pitch. Its only about 50m higher
than 161d entrance in height terms, but located above the forbidden
land.
H88 was explored by AndyA, who eventually got bored with crawling.
It is further south than the current southern extremity of 136 and is
~50m above level of Forbidden Land - should at least be surveyed to. AJD.
8th August 97
Derig of Wheelchair Access
Dave H, Brian, Mike B, TU 6 hrs
Initial aims were to go down, look for leads and survey some
bits + pieces. But we also had to be out quite early so we could
have a meal at Hilde's. Unfortunately, on the way in, I thought
to check the traverse and pitches off under the wall to the left
to see if any gear had been left. Yes, the traverse was still
rigged, so Mike went across to derig & found that the pitch at
the end was rigged via two rebelays and was at least 20-30m deep.
When we got this rope out, found we had an extra 83m rope to get
out. Headed on down to the Lost World & headed downstream.
Checked out the 'big rift' that we had seen last trip down, to
the right just after the climb down. All this was was a climb up
in boulders and then looking back down on the main passage from a
great height.
Onward to the final chamber to check out a couple more leads.
(1) Continuation of the pitch - lands at the deep pool (which
was fairly empty) just beyond survey station 16.
(2) Mike climbed the inlet and I could hear him from the top of
the pitch. I made a visual connection from where the water sinks at
the passage just back from the top of the pitch with this inlet, via
a rather large wide pitch, narrow at the top and covered in chocked
boulders - one of which I was standing on.
Did a couple of grade 2 drawings - couldn't survey as we'd left the
tape behind.
This left Becka's climb up to the left (as you go downstream) by
the rock bridge. This looks quite good. 2m climb up to a 15m pitch
down with two ways on, again I took some grade 2 drawings.
Detackled this and started on out. Detackling was OK, even of
Kein Zimmer Rift. We each prussiked up it with a tackle bag, Mike
filling his with the rope from the pitch as we went - no problems.
Left gear at the guillotine, continued out with a tackle bag
each, which we left at Mothshag.
Previous trip
6/8/97 Julian H, Andy A, Mike B. T/U 8
hrs
136 - Steinschlagchact
Went down with the intention of taking a few photos and then
pushing some leads in Forbidden. My first (+ last?) underground
photo trip with mostly overground photo gear. Took pictures of
people on most of the pitches, traverse of the gods and eyehole
traverse. Had an attempt at taking picture of chamber at the end
of Elin Algor, but this proved tedious trying to use "B" setting
on camera. I doubt I'll bother with that again !
Once in the Forbidden land, we systematically reviewed all
known leads and possibly found one or two others. Went down
Tirolia Werke first. Andy climbed up the roof tubes on the right
hand side (walking W) and found most either closed down or turned
into avens. About ½ along Tirolia Werke on RH side, small
climb up (c.3) leads to large(ish) chamber at foot of aven. Grade
C tight, wet lead in here. Looked at Gravel Pit. Big draft but not
very inspiring. Opposite(ish) Gravel Pit is a big fallen boulder
with a pitch behind. It's possible to climb around the boulder to
pitchhead, probably about 10m hang, possibly a way on at the bottom.
Next we went back up Tirolia Werke, into Elin Algor and up to the
large chamber near the Pump House turn. Look/threw rocks down all
the holes. Big Holes in the chamber sound dead and look very likely
to be choked - probably not good leads. Went down choss back and
around the RH wall to small adjoining chamber. Climbed up another
choss bank towards Chris D's lead - BIG pitch with good boom at the
bottom. V. good lead but for the small scrotty connecting tube.
Exitted chamber, climbed up into Pump House and thence to Hall
of the Mounting Choss. Pump House passage has same feel about it as
Mississipi/Mississipi Mud Pie - the other side of Stairway to Hell.
HoTMC is huge and loose as the name suggests. Pitches in the top
left corner (looking from the bottom of the slope) look quite good
leads - may eventually go to Regurgitation ?
Exitted, stopping en route only to dismiss a couple of scrotty
leads off the side of Elin Algor.
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6/8/97 - Pushing below SEP TU 17
hr
Dunk, William, Jon
Pushed below S.E.P.
Whacked in loads of Bolts
Abbed down some Pitches
Found a short phreatic passage "Auspuff"
with undescended climbat the end
BLOWS LIKE A BASTARD !
Previous SEP trip /
Previous day's Siberia trip (Fuzzy Logic) /
Next trip (derig)
8/7/97 - Derigging SEP
Dunk, William --> TU 11 hour
Jon, Phil U --> TU 6½ hour
Derigged.
Previous trips: Fuzzy Logic /
SEP /
Next Siberia trip (rig-in 1998)
10/8/97 136 - Footlights Traverse Chris &
Anthony
TU ~9 hrs
Finally got underground after a week nursing an injured knee
(more through boredom than any improvement to the injury).
Attempted to replace my main beam bulb with the Julian Haines
lighthouse bulb and in doing so snapped the connector to the
main beam - mutter. So rather than take an FX5 down just for
the pilot, I caved with my zoom and its dodgy connector as
back up for my Austrian sand grade carbide - not an auspicious
start.
Bumbled down to the theatre box and Chris continued on the
Footlights Traverse complete with homemade grappling hook - a
crowbar lashed to a 1½m yellow pole. Unfortunately, since
being taken underground, the string by which the crowbar was
attached had got wet, stretched and was thus no use. So the
yellow pole was abandoned, and I watched as Chris teetered across
a chossy and airy traverse, banged in a couple of bolts and found
... no cave whatever. So Chris continued down the wall and found
an eyehole into a chossy little passage, banged another bolt into
its camembert-like walls, and I followed him, only shitting myself
once on the traverse. The passage leads to a loose, uninspiring
looking pitch head, which opens out into a decent shaft with aven
above, which lands on a rock bridge (ie. a jammed boulder) with more
pitch beyond. This whole area is gloop coated and falling apart -
very KH like - and there is a significant draught coming up
the continuing pitch. This is quite a good lead, but we had run out
of rope.
Rather than survey out, I pootled out at this point whilst Chris
drilled some more bolts to improve the rig. Not surveying was probably
a good thing since it took an astonishingly long time to get out, not
helped by an ailing leg and too much beer at basecamp the week before.
Also, the big loose flake at the top of the big pitch is no longer a
problem as Phil kicked most of it off. The remnants of it came whistling
past my ear as I hung on the rebelay below the ledge we wait on before
ascending the big pitch, causing me to gibber quite a lot, especially
as I could smell freshly fractured rock on the ledge. Phil also
neglected to call pitch free, so I spent quite a while at the bottom
before making a cautious ascent (the rope looks OK). I then gardened
the rest of the rubbish at the pitchhead in the general direction of
Brian's head to ensure no repeat performance.
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Next trip
Haines Miracle Carbide Cure
As the glorious expo leader departed, he bequeathed me a few
of his precious items, namely 3 lumps of large carbide (all the
expo stuff from the Austrians is tiny bitty stuff). This was
gratefully (and gullibly) received, and used on the above 136 trip.
And so it was, Footlights Traverse now being bolted, Anthony
headed out with the spare carbide & I started out lugging
the drill + battery. That's strange, I thought, my light's going
a bit dim. Fettle. The bitty stuff all gone, but Haines lump was
sat there just as it went in. Magic - everlasting carbide !
Complete with calcite veins ... hmmm, chortle, most amusing.
Dark thoughts cast in the Haines direction on the dim prusik out.
C D
TU 9 hrs
10/8/97 136 To Tirolia via Elin Algor. Brian & Phil B
Trogged off down the pitches & across the traverse to the
slot and waited for Phil. We both walked along Elin Algor (lead
off to right up climbable rift with stream descending &
little mud volcanoes - did not push as did not fancy climb due
to state of my shoulder). Came back to climb up through boulders
just after 1st main chamber past junction in Tirolia and
investigated climb up into roof on left with pitch: whacked
in bolt & sling around natural & lo & behold
I ended back in main passage - got pissed off & went out.
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12/8/97 Anthony - Pissing about on the surface
Plan was to put tags on the unmarked 161e and 161f entrances,
except I left the tags at top camp. Bunged in a spit at 161f
anyway and tried to do likewise at 161e except a large chunk of
wall fell off when I tried to set it. Got bored and went to
retrieve gear from 161d. Whilst failing to find 161f I came
across lots of holes - this is prime prospecting territory for
anyone wanting to find a more northerly entrance to 161 with
an even more atrocious approach.
13/8/97 Phil U & Anthony Pissing about on the surface again.
Planned to surface survey 191->161c, and look for the elusive
192, which is allegedly marked and in the same area. Took a while to
find 191 and in the process we found 180, which I thought was miles
away. Didn't have a tag for 180, but put in a spit for one and surface
surveyed from there to 191 and back to 161c. Failed to find 192. Took
photos of 180 and 191, the latter now sports a CUCC tag. Retrieved
gear from 161d and derigged climbs on surface route and trundled back
to topcamp for a brew, then on to 186 ("Rosenkavalierhöhle").
This is the hole erroneously numbered 185 on the side of the Vord
which Olly & I refound in 1994 and which William had confirmed
as being 186 earlier this expo. The paint has all but disappeared,
but we banged in a CUCC tag and surveyed back to top camp - another
gets ticked. No photo because I'd run out of film.
Incidentally - The marking at 161c entrance is
VSS 2 | |
88AF | |
1623/161c | < added later by CUCC |
This is similar to the markings on caves H88 and 88F found on
7/8/97 making me suggest that latter caves are also French.
14/8/97 Phil U & Anthony Derig 136
TU 5 hrs (AD) 2½ hrs (PU)
Team hero having done the hard bit the day before, team
knackered knees went down and derigged from the traverse to
the eyehole. All the spits are greased, though I couldn't get
the syringe to fill so used my finger. All spits above eyehole
traverse have a matchstick in too. Circlips are shit gear - at
least half the bolts fell out when I unscrewed, but I think I've
rescued most of them.
Previous trip /
Next trip - 1999
12/8/97 136 Footlights cont. Chris,
Brian, John
Brian & I trolled around Forbidden Land derigging various
bits & pieces to generate enough rope to drop the pitch at
the end of Footlights. Having decided this would become a through
route, I tarted up the traverse on the way over to make it more
comfortable, ie.
[rigging sketch]
rather than the precarious rebelays that were used to rig it.
John & I surveyed in, Brian arrived with rope & went off
down the first pitch. 30m later he touched the floor: "It's big".
Oh good. "There's a rope here". Oh bother. Been Hainesed again -
his climb up from the Orchestra Pit finished here. Brian & I
checked out the rift chamber pretty carefully - the draft appears
to drop in somewhere at the southern end, then heads up the pitch
we'd dropped. One drippy chamber could be seen through a tiny
window - almost certainly the same as the Orchestra Pit. Otherwise
- the entire S end chokes.
At least it gave us a chance to start the derigging early. Out at
4 am, back to camp just before dawn, in time for some carries down the
hill.
TU Brian, Chris 13
John 11
Previous trip /
Next trip (final derig)
11/8/97 KH Moomintroll Jon, Phil
We went down to have a look at the climb up beyond
Moomintroll. Having taken a drill battery with us we
then found that the drill did not work. There were no
bolting kits either so we went to look anyway.
We traversed around the terrifying pit (8 ft deep)
and found the climb. Looked at it for a bit and then
I climbed up it. There were only a few loose hand
holds. I rigged a rope for Phil and up he came.
As expected, there was a large aven. However, there
was no obvious way on. We sat down for a bit while we
decided what to do next. At this point, some water was
heard dripping. I went to investigate a tiny tube
where the noise was coming from. After removing a few
rocks the floor dropped away to reveal a 30 ft drop
into a large space. With a little enlargement someone
will be able to fit through and see where the draft is
coming from.
TU 3 hours
Last Moomintroll trip /
Next Moomintroll trip (1998)