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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2>
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<h1>GPS and coordinate systems</h1>
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<a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br>
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<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.<br>
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<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook: Vergleich der ÖK 50 mit der neuen ÖK 50-UTM</a>.
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<h3 id="summary">Summary - for 2023</h3>
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<p>Surveying in Austria does <em>not</em> use the latitude and longitude you may be familiar with from Google maps, your phone etc.
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<p>All our caves and locations in our survex files use the <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">Austrian Caving national grid system</a>, numbers which look like this:
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<table class="trad">
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<tr><th> Northing</th><th> Easting</th><th> Altitude</th><th>
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Description</th></tr>
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<tr><td>411563.49 </td><td>5282622.35</td><td> 1867.95m </td><td>
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p204a at the Stone Bridge</td></tr>
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</table>
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<p>These grid references are what we use to locate the entrances and to tie in the survey of a new cave in with the rest of the 180+ km of cave and surface surveys.
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<p>Note that there are 6 digits starting 41... and 7 digits starting 52... This is not a mistake.
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<p>However, when you prospecting and discover a new cave, you possibly only have the WGS84 latitude and logitude from your phone, e.g. <var>47.690933 N 13.821467 E</var> (degrees and decimals of degrees, set your phone to produce this: none of that degrees/minutes/seconds stuff, but if that's all that you have, we can work with that).
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<p>So when you are recording the position of a completely new entrance, before you do any surveying, it will be the WGS84 lat/long that you will be writing down on the survey notes, and which will get scanned into the wallet back at base, and which you will enter into the <a href="/handbook/survey/caveentry.html">New Cave and Entrance forms</a> on troggle (step 6 of the dave data processing guide) in the lat/long. data entry fields.
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<h3>Coordinate systems</h3>
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<p>[The text from this point onwards is from before we had mobile phones, but it is correct.]
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<p>It doesn't especially matter what display options are selected when you
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are getting the GPS fix, but it is important to use standard ones when writing
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the results. However, the main point of having a GPS fix on an entrance is
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so we can find it again and be sure it is the same one!</p>
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<hr />
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<ul id="links">
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<li><b>Expedition Handbook:</b>
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<ul>
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<li>Expo Handbook <a href="../index.htm">Introduction</a></li>
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<li><b>Surveying:</b>
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<ul>
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<li>Surveying <a href="index.htm">Overview</a> and index of
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topics</li>
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<li><a href="what.htm">What is a cave survey?</a></li>
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<li><a href="why.htm">Why am I doing this?</a></li>
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<li>Methods: <a href="how.htm">underground</a></li>
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<li>Pitfalls to avoid, <a href="hints.htm">hints'n'tips</a> to
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make life easier</li>
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<li>Methods: <a href="ontop.htm">surface</a></li>
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<li>Base Camp: <a href="getin.htm">getting it in</a> to the
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computer</li>
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<li>Base Camp: <a href="drawup.htm">drawing it up</a>, writing
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the description</li>
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</ul></li>
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<li><a href="../look4.htm">Prospecting guide</a></li>
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<li><a href="../rescue.htm">Rescue guide</a></li>
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<li><a href="../rig/rigit.html">Rigging guide</a></li>
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<li><a href="../photo.htm">Photography guide</a></li>
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</ul></li>
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<li><a href="../../infodx.htm">Index to info/topics pages</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../indxal.htm">Full Index to area 1623</a>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="../../areas.htm">Area/subarea descriptions</a></li>
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</ul></li>
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<li><a href="../../index.htm">Back to Expedition Intro page</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../../index.htm">Back to CUCC Home page</a></li>
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</ul>
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