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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook - New survey wallet</h2> <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook - New survey wallet</h2>
<h1>Creating a new survey wallet</h1> <h1>Creating a new survey wallet</h1>

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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2> <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
<h1 id="top">Expo Treasurer Role</h1> <h1 id="top">Expo Treasurer Role</h1>
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<LI>Other Tips </LI> <LI>Other Tips </LI>
</UL> </UL>
<LI><a href="travelcosts.html">Part 3: Travel costs</a> </LI> <LI><a href="travelcosts.html">Part 3: Travel costs</a> </LI>
<LI><a href="#summary">Summary</a></LI> <LI><a href="#summary">Summary</a></LI>
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<LI>Appendices (MISSING!)</li>
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<LI>Appendix A: Useful Treasurer's Information </LI>
<LI>Appendix B: A guide to the Expo spreadsheet </LI>
<LI>Appendix C: Expo Treasurer's checklist </LI>
<LI>Appendix D: Committee checklists </LI>
<LI>Appendix E: The files on the Expo accounting disk </LI>
<LI>Appendix F: Original work on Expo (Photos, data &amp; surveys)</LI>
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<H3>Timetable of events</H3> <H3>Timetable of events</H3>
<h4>Ghar Parau fund</h4>
<p>The previous treasurer should have organised this. If they haven't, do it now.
<h4 id="bank">Bank account</h4>
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<a href="https://www.natwest.com/banking-with-natwest/how-to/card-reader.html" border=1><img src="natwest-cr.jpg"></a>
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<em>NatWest card-reader</em>
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<p><b>FIRST</b> begin the process to get access to the Expo bank account: you need to complete a paper mandate
form (stll, even in 2023) to become a full-power signatory to this bank account. This takes about a month so
start this immediately that you are confirmed as expo treasurer. Online access requires special <a href=
"https://www.natwest.com/banking-with-natwest/how-to/card-reader.html">NatWest hardware</a> or biometric
configuration. You need to send all your details to the previous expo treasurer with the form so that he/she
can sign it and send it to the bank. These are
<ul>
<li>all your contact details: phone number, email address(es)
<li>current postal address
<li>3 year address history (!)
</ul>
<p>At some point you will also need to provide
<ul>
<li>photo id
<li>selfie photo
</ul>
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<a href="https://www.natwest.com/current-accounts/existing-customers/account-signatories.html" border=1><img src="addnwac.jpg"></a>
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<em>NatWest webpage</em>
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<p>The bank is <a href="https://bank-code.net/uk-sort-code/600423-national-westminster-bank-plc">the Market Street branch</a> of Nat West, which is where you get the paper mandate form. Expo a/c 22997253. <a href="#natwest">See below</a> for how to operate the account.
<p>In 2023 NatWest are now moving to an <a href="https://www.natwest.com/current-accounts/existing-customers/account-signatories.html">online method</a> (click on "Add an account holder") for adding account holders. Try it out and then <a href="/handbook/treasurer.html_edit">edit this page</a> to include the new instructions.
<h4>The next most urgent thing: Accounting policy</h4>
<p>Study the <a href="finance.html#summary">previous expo accounting policies</a> and write one specifically for the coming expo you will be managing. Then everyone knows which policy is "active" and you won't get conflicting requests from incompatible historic approaches. <p>Study the <a href="finance.html#summary">previous expo accounting policies</a> and write one specifically for the coming expo you will be managing. Then everyone knows which policy is "active" and you won't get conflicting requests from incompatible historic approaches.
<P>In the beginning were the grant applications. At least, there were if last year's committee remembered their responsibilities, so first check that they have been submitted! Also track down the ex-treasurer (if he didn't get you first!) and get the bank details and get yourself as a signatory to the account.</P> <P>In the beginning were the grant applications. At least, there were if last year's committee remembered their responsibilities, so first check that they have been submitted! </P>
<p>There are copies of letters requesting grants on the expo online systems <a href="../expofiles/documents/CUCC/applications/">letters archive</a>. <p>There are copies of letters requesting grants on the expo online systems <a href="../expofiles/documents/CUCC/applications/">letters archive</a>.
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<p>See the checklist for running an expo in <a href="planning.html">the expo planning guide</a>. <p>See the checklist for running an expo in <a href="planning.html">the expo planning guide</a>.
<UL> <UL>
<LI>Sponsorship </LI> <LI>Sponsorship </LI>
<li>Updating Cave Descriptions from last year's surveys</li>
<LI>Top Camp Meals - noodles, curries, dehydrated food </LI> <LI>Top Camp Meals - noodles, curries, dehydrated food </LI>
<LI>Equipment &amp; Fettling co-ordination (CUCC Tackle Master) </LI> <LI>Equipment &amp; Fettling co-ordination (CUCC Tackle Master) </LI>
<LI>Expo training weekend(s) </LI> <LI>Expo training weekend(s) </LI>
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<P>The deposits are to give Expo some cash to buy gear. Try and get most people to pay up; people paying for a lot of gear in Cambridge (e.g. for top camp meals and the chief fettler) may request not to pay their deposit. Certainly get at least the first deposit of anyone potentially 'unreliable' (i.e. you haven't seen caving or hasn't been on Expo before) before you spend any money on him/her. <P>The deposits are to give Expo some cash to buy gear. Try and get most people to pay up; people paying for a lot of gear in Cambridge (e.g. for top camp meals and the chief fettler) may request not to pay their deposit. Certainly get at least the first deposit of anyone potentially 'unreliable' (i.e. you haven't seen caving or hasn't been on Expo before) before you spend any money on him/her.
Hassle everybody else too :-)</P> Hassle everybody else too :-)</P>
<p>See the instructions to expoers on what <a href="paperwork.html">their paperwork responsibilities</a> are as this sets out payment terms and says in writing that someone is only registered as coming on the expo <em>after</em> thier deposit has been recieved. It says "If you are late paying the deposit you may need to pay your entire expected cost, not just the deposit, before you can attend. The expo treasurer will tell you what is required". This was because we had one person just turn up without warning. (He was happy to pay, he just wasn't aware of the procedures.) <p>See the instructions to expoers on what <a href="paperwork.html">their paperwork responsibilities</a> are as this sets out payment terms and says in writing that someone is only registered as coming on the expo <em>after</em> their deposit has been recieved. It says "If you are late paying the deposit you may need to pay your entire expected cost, not just the deposit, before you can attend. The expo treasurer will tell you what is required". This was because we had one person just turn up without warning. (He was happy to pay, he just wasn't aware of the procedures.)
<P>A good way to get the deposits is with the Expo form. This is completed in some way by each person wanting to go on the Expo. Have a look at past year's forms. The forms get you, as treasurer, (hopefully) all the information you'll need to start organising Expo. People are often pretty lousy at completing or even starting their forms, but you'll need an idea of when people want to go on Expo and a list of contact addresses etc. Distribute the forms:</P> <P>A good way to get the deposits is with the Expo form. This is completed in some way by each person wanting to go on the Expo. Have a look at past year's forms. The forms get you, as treasurer, (hopefully) all the information you'll need to start organising Expo. People are often pretty lousy at completing or even starting their forms, but you'll need an idea of when people want to go on Expo and a list of contact addresses etc. Distribute the forms:</P>
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<P>How much of this happens depends on how keen and how many Expo members you have. In 1999 we placed an order with Field &amp; Trek, where we got the <EM>group sales</EM> rate of 'up to' 25% off their normal prices. Bernies will normally give 10% off medium to large orders, or 20% on large orders if you give him a few days notice. Recently (1998/9), it has seemed that Bernies offers better value than Inglesport; Dragon do excellent tackle sack repairs for &pound;10 per sack.</P> <P>How much of this happens depends on how keen and how many Expo members you have. In 1999 we placed an order with Field &amp; Trek, where we got the <EM>group sales</EM> rate of 'up to' 25% off their normal prices. Bernies will normally give 10% off medium to large orders, or 20% on large orders if you give him a few days notice. Recently (1998/9), it has seemed that Bernies offers better value than Inglesport; Dragon do excellent tackle sack repairs for &pound;10 per sack.</P>
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<H4>Operate the Expo bank account</H4> <H4 id="natwest">Operate the Expo bank account</H4>
<P>This involves paying money in, writing cheques and looking after the statements. Statements are currently sent to the Expo Treasurer's address, which is changed for each treasurer. You could get them sent to Dr James Hickson, the CUCC Senior Treasurer at Pembroke. This would mean less changing of addresses, but add delay/uncertainty to your receiving the statements.</P> <P>This involves paying money in and out, setting up the online access system (2-factor authentication with special NatWest widget-box and personalised bankcard) and looking after the statements. Set up the button-box hardware, don't just rely on biometric face recognition. Paper statements are currently sent to the Expo Treasurer's address, which is changed for each treasurer. You could get them sent to Dr James Hickson, the CUCC Senior Treasurer at Pembroke. This would mean less changing of addresses, but add delay/uncertainty to your receiving the statements. If you enable online-statements, set them up as <em>copies</em> of the paper ones, not as replacements. Email copies to a nerd for archival storage.</P>
<P>Equipment orders are normally paid for by Expo or CUCC main, with the other then repaying their share. The float money (about &pound;850 at the end of 1999) can be used as necessary, but should be replenished at the end of each year. The extra money is very useful for smoothing the cash flow. Do not let the account go overdrawn.</P> <P>Equipment orders are normally paid for by Expo or CUCC main, with the other then repaying their share. The float money (about &pound;850 at the end of 1999) can be used as necessary, but should be replenished at the end of each year. The extra money is very useful for smoothing the cash flow. Do not let the account go overdrawn.</P>
<P>The Expo account is with National Westminster, number 22997253, sort code 60-04-23 (Market Street branch). Remember to give the bank the signature authority forms to authorise your successor before you leave Cambridge.</P> <P>The Expo account is with National Westminster, number 22997253, sort code 60-04-23 (Market Street branch). Remember to give the bank the signature authority forms to authorise your successor before you leave Cambridge.</P>
<H4>The Expo Bier Bookand Sesh Book</H4> <H4>The Expo Bier Bookand Sesh Book</H4>
<a href="">
<img src="" hspace=10px border=1 align="right" />
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<figure>
<a href="i/bierbook.jpg" border=1><img src="t/tbierbook.jpg" alt="Bier book"></a>
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<em>Bier book<br>(click to enlarge)</em>
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</figure>
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<P>The <a href="bierbook.html">Expo Bier Book and Sesh Book</a> is a record of every expedition expenditure and many administrative details of Expo. Refined over many years, the format now consists of the following sections:</P> <P>The <a href="bierbook.html">Expo Bier Book and Sesh Book</a> is a record of every expedition expenditure and many administrative details of Expo. Refined over many years, the format now consists of the following sections:</P>

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<div class="tripdate" id="t2022-08-05c">2022-08-05</div> <div class="tripdate" id="t2022-08-05c">2022-08-05</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u>, Mike Butcher, Amelia Oliver, Paul Walko, Aaron Clair, </div> <div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u>, Mike Butcher, Amelia Oliver, Paul Walko, Aaron Clair, </div>
<div class="triptitle">WhichCave - Rigging Amelia's Pitch</div> <div class="triptitle">290 - WhichCave - Rigging Amelia's Pitch</div>
<br /><br />[Editor note - Unknown which cave this is, not identified in this logbook entry or in any scanned notes. It is <em>assumed</em>, purely from the people and the date, that this is the same trip that surveyed Horrorbank in 290.]
<br /><br />Went to bottom for Amelia to rig her 1st pitch. <br /><br />Went to bottom for Amelia to rig her 1st pitch.
Very windy spot so surveying team (illegible) arses off to about an (illegible) whilst Mealy &amp; Mike started down the pitch. Calibrated disto &amp; fiddled with Topodroid to while away time. Very windy spot so surveying team (illegible) arses off to about an (illegible) whilst Mealy &amp; Mike started down the pitch. Calibrated disto &amp; fiddled with Topodroid to while away time.
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2022-08-07c">2022-08-07</div> <div class="tripdate" id="t2022-08-07c">2022-08-07</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u>, Philip Balister, </div> <div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u>, Philip Balister, </div>
<div class="triptitle">Reutner-Express</div> <div class="triptitle">Reutner-Express - ARGE cave near Windloch</div>
<br /><br />Went on a trip with ARGE (Arndt Karger) to see their new cave, Reutner-Express, which has the pleasing characteristics of a) being a 20min walk from the car-park &amp; b) only being about 60m deep. <br /><br />Went on a trip with ARGE (Arndt Karger) to see their new cave, Reutner-Express, which has the pleasing characteristics of a) being a 20min walk from the car-park &amp; b) only being about 60m deep.
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<br /><br />Met the other ARGE group on the way out. Still foggy but we managed to get back to our gear &amp; return after very civilized trip. <br /><br />Met the other ARGE group on the way out. Still foggy but we managed to get back to our gear &amp; return after very civilized trip.
<br /><br /><i>Editor note - 031 is named as Elchole in cave list. 032 is Windloch. Should this be corrected? (Gwen Tawy)</i> <br /><br />[<i>Editor note 1 - 031 is named as Elchole in cave list. 032 is Windloch. Should this be corrected? (Gwen Tawy)
<br />Editor note 2 - This Windloch is apparently <a href="/1623/32.htm">Windloch am Stogerweg</a>, not the other one - and our cave descriptin is very out of date. <a href="/1623/31.htm">Elchhöhle</a> was visited by CUCC in 1978. (Philip Sargent)]
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