diff --git a/1623/161/names.htm b/1623/161/names.htm
index 5604bea87..7f8737f5a 100644
--- a/1623/161/names.htm
+++ b/1623/161/names.htm
@@ -1913,14 +1913,23 @@ to climb into <span lang=de-at>Staud'nwirt</span> Palace (1995)<br>
 </dl>
 </div>
 <hr />
-<script src="/site_media/js/jquery-3.6.0.min.js"></script>
-<script>      function show(id){
-          $(".hidable").hide();
-          $("#"+id).show();
-          $(".t").css({ 'font-weight': 'normal' });
-          $("#t_"+id).css({ 'font-weight': 'bold' });
+<script>      
+      function show(id){
+          var arrayOfDivs=document.getElementsByClassName('hidable');
+          for (var i=0; i<arrayOfDivs.length;i++){
+              arrayOfDivs[i].style.display='none';
+          }
+          document.getElementById(id).style.display = 'block';
+        
+          var arrayOfHeaders=document.getElementsByClassName('t');
+          for (var i=0; i<arrayOfHeaders.length;i++){
+              arrayOfHeaders[i].style.fontWeight='normal';
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+          document.getElementById(id).style.display = 'block';
+          document.getElementById("t_" + id).style.fontWeight = 'bold';
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+</script></body>
 </html>
diff --git a/handbook/computing/todo.html b/handbook/computing/todo.html
index b05c658ee..166417e82 100644
--- a/handbook/computing/todo.html
+++ b/handbook/computing/todo.html
@@ -13,9 +13,25 @@ body {
 }
 /* Use grey for system/programming/nerd pages as a visual reminder */
 </style>
-<script src="todo.js" defer></script>
-<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="todo-styles.css" />
 
+<!-- only use some of these styles. Pending tidying after the other todo list is changed to use <details> 
+overwrite the ones we don't want here-->
+<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="todo-styles.css" />
+<style>
+li {
+	font: 18px Calibri, sanserif;
+	font-weight: normal;
+	color: 6083BF;
+	list-style-type: None;
+	line-height: 1.0;
+	margin-left: 1.0em;
+}
+li:before {
+	content: "ยป ";
+	font-weight: normal;
+	color: 6083BF;
+}
+</style>
     <h1>Expo Systems To-Do List</h1>
 <button onclick="window.location.href = 'todo.html_edit';">Edit this to-do list</button>
 
@@ -43,7 +59,13 @@ but now we are just going to use standard HTML5 tags.
 Click here if no todo list appears here (because 'frames' have been disabled).</div></a>
 <hr>
 
-
+<h3>Other coding To Do things</h3>
+<p>See also these long-running issues which have their own 'to do' implications:
+<ol>
+<li><a href="/handbook/troggle/trogdesign.html">What Troggle Does Badly - Design Decisions</a>
+<li><a href="/handbook/troggle/menudesign.html">New Menu System</a>
+<li><a href="/handbook/troggle/trog2030.html">Troggle in 2025-2030</a>
+</ol>
 <h3>Process Documentation</h3>
     <details><summary><!--2020-03-26 psargent-->Wallets and new-cave</summary>
         <li><!--2020-03-26 psargent-->Explain how to link a new cave into the other caves in
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/lbredesign.html b/handbook/troggle/lbredesign.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..e588a460e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/handbook/troggle/lbredesign.html
@@ -0,0 +1,108 @@
+<!DOCTYPE html>
+<html>
+<head>
+<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
+<title>CUCC Expedition Handbook: Logbook HTML formats</title>
+<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
+</head>
+<body><style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
+<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook - Website menu design options</h2>
+
+<h1>Logbooks - multiple formats</h1>
+
+<ul>
+<li><a href="#why">Why</a>
+<li><a href="#prop1">Proposal #1</a>
+
+</ul>
+
+<h2 id="why">HTML formats - Why we need changes</h2>
+<h4>Maintenance workload</h4>
+
+<p>We have 4 different markdown and HTML formats for logbooks of different vintages. This means 4x as much maintenance as we need.
+
+<code><pre>LOGBOOK_PARSER_SETTINGS = {
+                "2010": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2009": ("2009logbook.txt", "Parselogwikitxt"), 
+                "2008": ("2008logbook.txt", "Parselogwikitxt"), 
+                "2007": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2006": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+#               "2006": ("logbook/logbook_06.txt", "Parselogwikitxt"), 
+                "2006": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2005": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2004": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2003": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtml03"), 
+                "2002": ("logbook.html", "Parseloghtmltxt"), 
+                "2001": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "2000": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1999": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1998": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1997": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1996": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"),
+                "1995": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1994": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1993": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1992": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1991": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1990": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1989": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), #crashes MySQL
+                "1988": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), #crashes MySQL
+                "1987": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), #crashes MySQL
+                "1985": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1984": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1983": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+                "1982": ("log.htm", "Parseloghtml01"), 
+            }
+
+</pre></code>
+<h4>Complexity - missing entries</h4>
+<p>
+Secondly, it is highly likely that most of the different parsers have errors and so some logbook entries do not get imported. One parser, which we 
+could devote more effort to, would mean data does not get mislaid. 
+
+<p>Thirdly, the current format is error-prone and nonsensical, so it an unecessary learning curve for all expoers.
+
+
+
+<h2 id="prop1">Logbooks: Proposal #1 - One Single Format</h2>
+<h4>Architecture</h4>
+<ul>
+<li>Use new HTML5 tags e.g. &lt;article&gt; --stuff-- &lt;/article&gt; or another tag that does not allow nesting. Ideally.
+<li>Use closing tag at end of entry - no implicit merging of entries
+<li>Explicitly handle content not in a logbook entry, e.g. title, frontispiece.
+</ul>
+
+<p>There are several HTML structural tags we could choose, 
+see <a href="https://webplatform.github.io/docs/guides/html_structural_elements/">HTML5 structural elements</a>.
+<br>
+DIV, SECTION, ARTICLE, ASIDE
+
+<h4>Implementation</h4>
+<ul>
+<li>Start by exporting using this format from the import parsers
+<li>extensive manual checking for each logbook
+<li>Start with 2003 which has a unique parser
+<li>trial new import parser, check it gives same results as old parser on old format
+<li>repeat for each format type
+<li>retire old format parsers, archive old formats of logbook
+</ul>
+
+<h4>Advantages</h4>
+<ul>
+<li>Reduced maintenance load in future
+<li>More expoers will write up their logbook entries ! Win!
+<li>Clearly distinct programming task: would suit newcomer
+</ul>
+
+<h4>Disadvantages</h4>
+<ul>
+<li>non urgent work
+</ul>
+
+<hr />
+Return to: <a href="trogdesign.html">Troggle design and future implementations</a><br />
+Return to: <a href="trogintro.html">Troggle intro</a><br />
+Troggle index: 
+<a href="trogindex.html">Index of all troggle documents</a><br /><hr />
+</body>
+</html>
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/serverconfig.html b/handbook/troggle/serverconfig.html
index fa028966e..e73f0e047 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/serverconfig.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/serverconfig.html
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@
 <title>Handbook - Expo Server</title>
 <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
 </head>
-<body><style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
+<body>
+<style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
 <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook: Server</h2>
 <h1>The Expo server</h1>
 <p>Troggle is the software which runs the the expo cave survey data management and website. It is not the only thing running on the expo server.
@@ -50,7 +51,7 @@ expoweb (repo)
 &boxvr;&HorizontalLine;&HorizontalLine; topos
 &boxur;&HorizontalLine;&HorizontalLine; years</textarea></code>
 
-<p>The handbook illustrates the i/t/l idiom whereby an image file (i) is displayed with a paragraph of text as an HTML file (l) and there is a thumbnail image (t) which is included in another document, e.g. see <a href="../../1623/walkin.htm">the photographic guide to the walk from the toll road car park</a>.
+<p>The handbook illustrates the i/t/l idiom whereby an image file (i) is displayed with a paragraph of text as an HTML file (l) and there is a thumbnail image (t) which is included in another document, e.g. see <a href="/guidebook/walkin.htm">the photographic guide to the walk from the toll road car park</a>.
 
 <h4 id="css">CSS and HTML</a></h4>
 
@@ -448,6 +449,5 @@ Return to: <a href="trogdesign.html">Troggle design and future implementations</
 Return to: <a href="trogintro.html">Troggle intro</a><br />
 Troggle index: 
 <a href="trogindex.html">Index of all troggle documents</a><br />
-<hr />
-</body>
+<hr /></body>
 </html>
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/trog2030.html b/handbook/troggle/trog2030.html
index 424895f6b..2495a306c 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/trog2030.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/trog2030.html
@@ -68,11 +68,43 @@ all the multi-user non-interference, not Django. So unless we want to roll our o
 <div style="color:blue">
 <p>We need to de-cruft troggle *first*: remove 'good ideas' which were never used, trim redundancies and generally reduce it in size significantly.
 <p>
-We should have a good look  at  making a list of functions that we will drop and some we replace by parsing cavern output and some we calculate during importing/reading svx files.
+We should have a good look  at  making a list of functions that we will drop and some we replace by parsing cavern output and some we calculate 
+during importing/reading svx files.
 
 <p>
-Documentation and a working list of on-going programming projects is the key to keeping troggle in a state where someone can pick it up and do a useful week's work, e.g. extracting the parsed logbooks to use shelve() storage throughout instead of SQL. The next time someone like Radost comes along during the next 5 years we want to be able to use them effectively.
+Documentation and a working list of on-going programming projects is the key to keeping troggle in a state where someone can pick it up and do a 
+useful week's work, e.g. extracting the parsed logbooks to use shelve() storage throughout instead of SQL. The next time someone like Radost comes 
+along during the next 5 years we want to be able to use them effectively.
 </div>
+
+<h3>Option Zero.1</h2>
+<div style="color:blue">
+<p>We should probably review and revise all the over-complex templates, originally written in 2006, which do serious amounts of database querying, 
+and linked object sub-querying, within the template code. This is a nightmare to maintain and debug, e.g. see 
+the note at the bottom of <a href="/personexpedition/Wookey/1999">Wookey 1999 trips</a>.
+
+<p>A possible goal would be to create all the data that will be displayed in a page as dictionaries - generated by obviously simple python, with 
+some Django query optimisations if necessary - which are then handed as 'context' to the Django page template (those files in <var>
+troggle/templates/xxx.html</var>), instead of using the Django-specific database object requests within the template sublanguage, e.g. 
+<code><pre>
+  {% if persondate.2 %}
+    &lt;td class="survexblock"&gt;&lt;a href="{% url "svx" persondate.2.survexfile.path %}"&gt;{{persondate.2.name}}&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
+        {%comment%}
+        &lt;td class="roles" style="padding-right: 3px; text-align:right"&gt;
+        {% for survexpersonrole in persondate.2.survexpersonrole_set.all %}
+          {{survexpersonrole.nrole}}
+        {% endfor %}
+        &lt;/td&gt;{%endcomment%}
+&lt;td style="text-align:right"&gt;
+    {{persondate.2.legslength|stringformat:".1f"}} m
+    &lt;/td&gt;
+  {% else %}
+    &lt;td colspan="3"&gt; &lt;/td&gt;
+  {% endif %}
+  </pre></code>
+
+</div>
+
 <h3>Things that could be a bit sticky 1 - multi-user safety</h3>
 <p>Multi-user synchronous use could be a bit tricky without a solid multi-user database sitting behind the python code. So removing all the SQL database use may not be what we want to do after all.
 <p>Under all conceivable circumstances we would continue to use WGSI or 
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/trogdesign.html b/handbook/troggle/trogdesign.html
index 1610486bb..9749933c7 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/trogdesign.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/trogdesign.html
@@ -154,6 +154,7 @@ complete copy, but if universal internet access is coming anyway, any such work
 <h2 id="specific">Specific, Immediate problems</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>New systems for <a href="menudesign.html">website menus</a>
+    <li>New  <a href="lbredesign.html">logbook coding system</a> - not at all urgent
     <li><s>Short-term note on "logon" <a href="trogregistr.html">django-registration</a></s>
 </ul>
 <p>Open architectural issues being worked on:
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/trogimport.html b/handbook/troggle/trogimport.html
index fd02f4a22..24d53027e 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/trogimport.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/trogimport.html
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@
 <title>Handbook Troggle Data Import</title>
 <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
 </head>
-<body><style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
+<body>
+<style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
 <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
 <h1>Troggle Data Import</h1>
 
@@ -41,8 +42,8 @@ Usage is 'python databaseReset.py <command> [runlabel]'
              caves and logbooks must be run on an empty db before the others as they
              set up db tables used by the others.
 </pre></code>
-<p>On a clean computer using sqlite a complete import takes less than 100 seconds now if nothing else is running. 
-On the shared expo server it takes 1,000s as it is a shared machine. More than half of the time on the server is reinitialising the MariaDB database. 
+<p>On a clean computer using sqlite a complete import takes 100 seconds now if nothing else is running (200s if running on an SD card not a SSD).
+On the shared expo server it takes 600s as it is a shared machine. More than half of the time on the server is reinitialising the MariaDB database. 
 
 <p>Here is an example of the output after it runs, showing which options were used recently and how long 
 each option took (in seconds). <code><pre>
@@ -100,6 +101,5 @@ loadlogbk.log</pre></code>
 Return to: <a href="trogintro.html">Troggle intro</a><br />
 Troggle index: 
 <a href="trogindex.html">Index of all troggle documents</a><br />
-<hr />
-</body>
+<hr /></body>
 </html>
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/trogindex.html b/handbook/troggle/trogindex.html
index f8943bc34..6acae4a38 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/trogindex.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/trogindex.html
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@
 <title>Handbook Troggle Index</title>
 <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
 </head>
-<body><style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
+<body>
+<style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
 <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
 <h1>Handbook Troggle - Index</h1>
 
@@ -20,7 +21,8 @@
 <a href="datamodel.html">Troggle - Data Model</a> - syntax-coloured list of classes, instance variables and foreign keys<br>
 <a href="trogdesign.html">Troggle - What it does Badly</a> - Design Decisions for the Future<br>
 <ul>
-<li><a href="trogregistr.html">Troggle Login and user registration</a> - proposal to remove registration<br>
+<li><a href="trogregistr.html">Troggle Login and user registration</a> - proposal to remove registration (DONE)<br>
+<li><a href="lbredesign.html">Troggle Logbook Format Redesign</a> - options for revising the logbook HTML format<br>
 <li><a href="menudesign.html">Troggle Menu Design</a> - options for replacing the menuing system<br><br>
 <li><a href="trogsimpler.html">Troggle - a kinder simpler troggle?</a> - Radost's proposals (critiqued)<br>
 <li><a href="trogspeculate.html">Troggle Architecture Speculations</a> - as in April 2020<br>
@@ -56,6 +58,5 @@
 <br>
 <hr />
 Return to: <a href="trogintro.html">Troggle intro</a><br />
-<hr />
-</body>
+<hr /></body>
 </html>
diff --git a/handbook/troggle/troglaptop.html b/handbook/troggle/troglaptop.html
index 53b2a3dbf..2b9be78f0 100644
--- a/handbook/troggle/troglaptop.html
+++ b/handbook/troggle/troglaptop.html
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@
 <title>Handbook Troggle Laptop</title>
 <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
 </head>
-<body><style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
+<body>
+<style>body { background: #fff url(/images/style/bg-system.png) repeat-x 0 0 }</style>
 <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expedition Handbook</h2>
 
 <h1>Troggle - software development laptop</h1>
@@ -338,7 +339,7 @@ python manage.py migrate</code></pre>
 Tests the uptodateness of your sqlite database. The help option
 explains what this does and gives extra command line options.
 
-<h4>check full functionality</h4>
+<h4 id="fullfunct">check full functionality</h4>
 
 <p>Now run the test suite:
 
@@ -417,6 +418,5 @@ Go on to: <a href="trogarch.html">Troggle architecture</a><br />
 Return to: <a href="trognotes.html">Troggle programmers' guide</a><br />
 Troggle index: 
 <a href="trogindex.html">Index of all troggle documents</a><br />
-<hr />
-</body>
+<hr /></body>
 </html>