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<H2>Packing list - water, sleeping, poos</H2>
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<H2>Packing list - water, sleeping, poos</H2>
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<p> - Daren drums for water collection (for Balkonhoehle; not needed in Fischgesicht) - 1 big, 1 small is ideal, camp First aid kit can be transported to camp in the small Daren drum then be moved to a bag; other camps may need different water collection eg a large sheet of plastic on a slope can collect small drips</p>
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<p> - Daren drums for water collection (for Balkonhoehle; not needed in Fischgesicht) - 1 big, 1 small is ideal, camp First aid kit can be transported to camp in the small Daren drum then be moved to a bag; other camps may need different water collection eg a large sheet of plastic on a slope can collect small drips</p>
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<p> - stove and fuel; spare stove if available</p>
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<p> - stove and fuel - gas cannisters with a stove with a pre-heating loop seem to work best; spare stove if available</p>
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<p> - lighters</p>
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<p> - lighters</p>
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<p> - 2 pans plus handle if needed</p>
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<p> - 2 pans plus handle if needed</p>
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<p> - 1 large mug and 1 spork per camper - use for both drinks and meals - Expo owns 4 sets of these specifically for underground camping</p>
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<p> - 1 large mug and 1 spork per camper - use for both drinks and meals - Expo owns 4 sets of these specifically for underground camping</p>
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<p> - milk powder</p>
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<p> - milk powder</p>
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<p> - nuts, seeds, coconut to cheer up muesli</p>
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<p> - nuts, seeds, coconut to cheer up muesli</p>
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<p> - instant porridge</p>
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<p> - instant porridge</p>
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<p> - flapjack</p>
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<p> - flapjack (each person takes their own)</p>
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<p> - chocolate</p>
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<p> - chocolate (each person takes their own)</p>
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<p> - nuts cheese etc for during the day</p>
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<p> - nuts, cheese etc (each person takes their own)</p>
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<p>To avoid over-catering and ending up with a massive bag of uneaten food to take out at the end, here is a suggestion for daily rations per person:</p>
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<p>To avoid over-catering and ending up with a massive bag of uneaten food to take out at the end, here is a suggestion for daily rations per person:</p>
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<li>60g instant porridge (equivalent to 2 x Oatso packets) plus supplementary fruit/seeds</li>
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<li>60g instant porridge (equivalent to 2 x Oatso packets) plus supplementary fruit/seeds</li>
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<p> - quality spare light - hopefully you already take this on all caving trips</p>
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<p> - quality spare light - hopefully you already take this on all caving trips</p>
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<p> - gilet or jacket - you may already take this on all caving trips, if so you shouldn't need another</p>
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<p> - gilet or jacket - you may already take this on all caving trips, if so you shouldn't need another</p>
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<p> - MINIMISE what else you take and check with others to avoid excess eg share one tube toothpaste for the team and check how many powerbanks are going</p>
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<p> - MINIMISE what else you take and check with others to avoid excess eg share one tube toothpaste for the team and check how many powerbanks are going</p>
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<p>- sleeping bag liner - this keeps the sleeping bags clean and keeps you warmer. Silk liners are the best compromise between warmth, bulk and cost</p>
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<p> - essential toiletries - pack plenty of sanitary products if there is any chance you will need them</p>
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<p> - essential toiletries - pack plenty of sanitary products if there is any chance you will need them</p>
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<p> - enough battery for your main light for the trip plus spare capacity</p>
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<p> - enough battery for your main light for the trip plus spare capacity</p>
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<p> - spare socks and thermals so you have clean, dry clothes to sleep in; optionally gloves and a hat. These should not leave camp. I usually sleep in my furry suit, thermals, balaclava etc but with sleeping socks on and I keep my caving socks in my pockets in the evening to try to dry them out</p>
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<p> - spare socks and thermals so you have clean, dry clothes to sleep in; optionally gloves and a hat. These should not leave camp. I usually sleep in my furry suit, thermals, balaclava etc but with sleeping socks on and I keep my caving socks in my pockets in the evening to try to dry them out</p>
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<p>Consider taking a sleeping bag liner, especially if you know you get cold. Silk liners are the best compromise between warmth, bulk and cost.</p>
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<H2>Setting up and removing camp</H2>
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<H2>Setting up and removing camp</H2>
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<p> - the first team who have to set up camp will take a long time to reach camp (as many bags) then will need hours to set up camp so its best if they pack the night before and set off early </p>
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<p> - the first team who have to set up camp will take a long time to reach camp (as many bags) then will need hours to set up camp so its best if they pack the night before and set off early </p>
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