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-False -1623-216 -Nichts 50 -1623 - -216 -2000-06 +Nichts 50 +1623 + +216 +2000-06 - 1623-216 - - + 1623-216 + -not-CUCC-Expo -caves-1623/216/216.svx - - - - - -In dataset - - - +not-CUCC-Expo +caves-1623/216/216.svx + + + + +Thought to be the bivouak cave used by the German team exploring Eishohle (1623-40). + + - -1623/216/216.html + diff --git a/cave_data/1623-40.html b/cave_data/1623-40.html index 16be673b8..ecb4f85d5 100644 --- a/cave_data/1623-40.html +++ b/cave_data/1623-40.html @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ the form documented at True +False Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle 1623 @@ -75,7 +76,7 @@ the form documented at though tackle is needed to explore it fully, and crampons are necessary in parts, because of the substantial quantities of ice in the cave. Was extended by the Germans who worked in the area in the early eighties, who suggested then that there was potential for extension vertically. - Subsequently linked via a 30m pitch to Lärchenschacht (1623/88) which in turn + Subsequently linked via a 30m pitch to Lärchenschacht (1623/88, now also entrance 40i) which in turn was connected to the Stellerweghöhlensystem, giving no increase in depth if the laser-rangefound altitude is correct rather than the old kataster one, which seems likely.

Translated brief guide

From 'Längsten und Tiefsten Hohlen in Österreich', translated by Wookey @@ -127,10 +128,17 @@ was connected to the Stellerweghöhlensystem,  

-The duck was dry in 2001, but back again in 2002.

50m further round (downslope) the ice drops away steeply under the wall. A line is advisable for the descent. 20m down, the ice slope peters out giving way to sand and rocks. At the end here is a very strongly draughting hole [C0000-40-04 B]. This appears too tight, but survey data shows this is where Kalten Gang and Spinnefriedhof are (VfHM, 1984). To the right at the foot of the slope closes down with rocks and ice - it would probably connect with Plastic Hell. A few metres up from the bottom of the slope on the left hand (N) wall is a gap between the ice and rock leading into a large chamber [A1998-40-05 B] (reported by Robert Winkler).

Back in Schneevulkanhalle, another 10m clockwise round the chamber is another, steeper iceslope. A rope is definitely needed for this. This is the way to Plastic Hell.

Beyond and above are more thin icefalls coming from high in the ceiling - trying to climb these would be bonkers - the debris from the collapse of some of them is all around.

Schotterland (Munich cavers 198? and ARGE 2000)

The foot of the piss-wet pitch opens out into very large triangular passage. You can go NE about 35m until it chokes (a good draught comes out of one hoplessly choked corner) or SW 20 to a T-junction. Right (W) is Kleiner keller. Left, ducking under the low wall, is Schotterland.

Kleiner keller is about 50m on huge passage to where the end is choked with glacial fill and a waterspout comes in the from the roof 3m up. A sling ladder makes it possible to ascend the waterspout - you can even doing it without getting very wet, as the spout is unusually well-concentrated, and thus avoidable. This comes into an E-W rift, with the water coming from the E end. It can be ascended in both directions at various traverse levels for about 30m, but the top appears choked at all points. The top is probably very close to the floor of Elephantengang.

The old Munich cavers' data suggests that there is a passage off kleiner keller that we missed - which seems hard to believe, but maybe it is worth another visit?

Schotterland is more enormous passage (10m wide) going SSE, presumably schotterland, due to the flooring of small rocks. A ramp goes up steeply on the L after 30m. It closes down after 40m. Ahead the passage slowly narrows until it chokes at the end - probably very close to the surface. +The duck was dry in 2001, but back again in 2002.

50m further round (downslope) the ice drops away steeply under the wall. A line is advisable for the descent. 20m down, the ice slope peters out giving way to sand and rocks. At the end here is a very strongly draughting hole [C0000-40-04 B]. This appears too tight, but survey data shows this is where Kalten Gang and Spinnefriedhof are (VfHM, 1984). To the right at the foot of the slope closes down with rocks and ice - it would probably connect with Plastic Hell. A few metres up from the bottom of the slope on the left hand (N) wall is a gap between the ice and rock leading into a large chamber [A1998-40-05 B] (reported by Robert Winkler).

Back in Schneevulkanhalle, another 10m clockwise round the chamber is another, steeper iceslope. A rope is definitely needed for this. This is the way to Plastic Hell.

Beyond and above are more thin icefalls coming from high in the ceiling - trying to climb these would be bonkers - the debris from the collapse of some of them is all around.

Schotterland (Munich cavers 198? and ARGE 2000)

The foot of the piss-wet pitch opens out into very large triangular passage. You can go NE about 35m until it chokes (a good draught comes out of one hoplessly choked corner) or SW 20 to a T-junction. Right (W) is Kleiner keller. Left, ducking under the low wall, is Schotterland.

Kleiner keller is about 50m on huge passage to where the end is choked with glacial fill and a waterspout comes in the from the roof 3m up. A sling ladder makes it possible to ascend the waterspout - you can even doing it without getting very wet, as the spout is unusually well-concentrated, and thus avoidable. This comes into an E-W rift, with the water coming from the E end. It can be ascended in both directions at various traverse levels for about 30m, but the top appears choked at all points. The top is probably very close to the floor of Elephantengang.

The old Munich cavers' data suggests that there is a passage off kleiner keller that we missed - which seems hard to believe, but maybe it is worth another visit?

Schotterland is more enormous passage (10m wide) going SSE, presumably schotterland, due to the flooring of small rocks. A ramp goes up steeply on the L after 30m. It closes down after 40m. Ahead the passage slowly narrows until it chokes at the end - probably very close to the surface. + +

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False - - -Oberer Eingang +1623-40a +40a a strongly draughting (out in summer) tube about 5m in diameter - From the Bergrestaurant, take path 201, ignoring the left turn to the plateau at Egglgrube. Pass the junction path left to Kratzer and continue until a red upper-case Omega is seen in the middle of the path, marking Kat. 28 (we think). There is a well-marked (cairns and red paint spots/arrows) branch path here. Follow this for about half an hour to the back of the limestone knoll known as "The Nipple" (and Weisse Warz and bunter's bulge). Things to note: first there is a wire traverse then you pass the lightninged tree in a sizeable valley. (Opposite this tree is the point you would turn left for Schwabenscacht). Shortly after that a pair of red arrows point in opposite directions. Go steeply uphill here doubling back slightly, rather than the more obvious straight on. Turn right about 40m beyond the nipple and head across the limestone for a narrow gully. After a hundred metres or so new red paint marks appear and take you to 40a. A very large cave entrance, 20 minutes further on, was the German's (Munich) bivouac, and a few minutes later, a strongly draughting (out in summer) tube about 5m in diameter is the main entrance ("Hauptportal" - 40a). @@ -48,16 +46,12 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> S Marked entrance thought to be 40a 1689.6784 - - 1623.p40a - it is laser point 14 - -1623/40a.htm + diff --git a/entrance_data/1623-40e.html b/entrance_data/1623-40e.html index 3c177bea6..a8c6200e5 100644 --- a/entrance_data/1623-40e.html +++ b/entrance_data/1623-40e.html @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ - + @@ -14,17 +14,15 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> -This file is generated by troggle on Oct. 11, 2023, 9:54 p.m. UTC using the form documented at +This file is generated by troggle using the form documented at handbook/survey/ententry.html
False - - -Brennerbeselschluf - +1623-40e +40e +Brennerbeselschluf - @@ -48,16 +46,12 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> S 1642.286 - - 1623.p040ex - 1623.p040e - - + diff --git a/entrance_data/1623-40f.html b/entrance_data/1623-40f.html index 08679ae25..2bcc50860 100644 --- a/entrance_data/1623-40f.html +++ b/entrance_data/1623-40f.html @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ - + @@ -14,17 +14,15 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> -This file is generated by troggle on Oct. 11, 2023, 2:36 p.m. UTC using the form documented at +This file is generated by troggle using the form documented at handbook/survey/ententry.html
False - - -Königsschachts -Large shaft +1623-40f +40f +Large shaft - Königsschacht - Just 20m below traverse ledge on 163 -> 40s route @@ -48,16 +46,12 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> S 1688 - - 1623.p40f - ? - -1623/40/40f.html + diff --git a/entrance_data/1623-40h.html b/entrance_data/1623-40h.html index 867cb6412..7ffc0e83b 100644 --- a/entrance_data/1623-40h.html +++ b/entrance_data/1623-40h.html @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ - + @@ -14,17 +14,20 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> -This file is generated by troggle on Oct. 11, 2023, 2:30 p.m. UTC using the form documented at +This file is generated by troggle using the form documented at handbook/survey/ententry.html
False - - -Eistunnel(Elephant) - +1623-40h +40h +elephantengang entrance, the entrance we usually use. Not named on the survey. +
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False - - -Grüner Eingang - +1623-40s +40s +Grüner Eingang - @@ -48,16 +46,12 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically --> S 1651m - - 1623.p40s - ? - -1623/40/40s.html + diff --git a/others/gsab/index.htm b/others/gsab/index.htm index 8814a15e8..d7a09805a 100644 --- a/others/gsab/index.htm +++ b/others/gsab/index.htm @@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ Scanned images of cave surveys:
  • Feuertalsystem
  • Empegadure – top
  • Empegadure – bottom
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  • Sofienhalle
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  • Ahnenschacht – plan
  • Ahnenschacht – elevation
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    The 1988 GSCB expedition report mentions attempting to meet "les anglais", and the 1989 report says that they did meet us, but we have no records of a meeting in our logbook, though were were active on expo on the relevant date. +

    The 1988 GSCB expedition report mentions attempting to meet "les anglais", and the 1989 report says that they did meet us, but we have no records of a meeting in our logbook, though were were active on expo on the relevant date (1989-08-31)

    Contact was finally made with Denis Motte at the International Speleological Congress in the Swiss Jura in 1997, so CUCC are looking forward to an era of @@ -84,6 +84,7 @@ GSCB's finds to the Eishöhle – Elevation Mid

  • Lärchenschacht Entrance – Right
  • Lärchenschacht Entrance – Left
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  • Sofienhalle in Lärchenschacht
  • Hagelschacht – Elevation