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Stream of consciousness scribbly lists of cave numbers compiled whilst trying to find
caves which could be given to Robert to get real kataster numbers. Hope this will evovle into a formal list of all the numbers we have ever assigned to entrances and all kataster numbers we know about, wth bidirectional translations. We do need to keep teack of the old numbers, otherwise log book accounts, etc. will cease to relate to current documentation. Sorry this is fairly unfinished - it seems to be a considerably non-trivial task. Nothing new there, then. Andy
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OK, executive summary is that theshortlist of things that we ought to be able
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to feed to Robert is:
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2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data
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2004-01 76 bivi cave - PG: lived in but no survey !! Seem to have svx refer wallet 2006#6 which has a passable plan and elev
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2004-03 PG: tagged, no survey. 6 legs of svx, refer wallet 2006#15 which contains something that could be drawn as a plan
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2004-14 surveyed, but drawing lost. refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-15 svx, refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-19 svx refer wallet 2004#46 - looks like we could draw an adequate survey oh, => 1623/254
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2004-20 svx refer wallet 2004#51 - looks like we could draw an adequate survey oh, => 1623/255
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2006-73 tagged, unexplored. But seems to be a survey in 2006#31 under name Ice Curtain Cave. No description on website.
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2014-SD-01 2014 SD 01 looks a convincing set of docs
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2006-71 not in PG. see wallet 2006#16
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and I think Elaine and Michael have done a survey of 2002-AD-02 this year ?
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My notes working from the Prospecting Guide to decide on those:
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Can't get Austrian number without more work:
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A1 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B1 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B2 missing, unsurveyed, untagged
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B3 missing, unsurveyed, untagged - may be findable starting from B4
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B4 needs survey and entrance photo
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B5 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but almost certainly identical with a kataster-numbered cave
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B6 missing, probably numbered in invisible green paint. 8m blind. Too small to go in kataster.
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B10 missing, occasional sightings ? probably numbered in invisible green paint
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BS16 unmarked, unsurveyed, coords may or may not be any good
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BS17 we have no survey data, but believed relocated 2015 ? Remote and hard cave
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BS19 unmarked, unsurveyed, coords may or may not be any good
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LA11 we have LUSS data
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LA12 location in svx, no data
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LA25 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA26 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA27 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA30 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA34 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map, may be in 1626
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LA35 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA37 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA38 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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LA40 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the map
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1987-02 PG: needs survey, and possibly more exploration. We have 30+ legs of 2007 data
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1992-X-01 allegedly refindable, but unmarked and undescended
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1996-01 needs survey - coords are pre-SA and believed hopelessly wrong
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1996-WK-4 unexplored but coords
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1996-WK-11 exploration incomplete (probably chokes), needs survey
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1996-WK-12 needs survey, needs retag (2005-89 as no letters in tag kit)
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1996-X-01 documented as under 3m long - so should not need an Austrian number
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1996-05 apparently a non-CUCC discovery but no evidence of exploration - should be done !
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1997-07 needs survey
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1999-MS-01 unmarked, needs survey (unexplored?)
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1999-MS-02 unmarked, needs survey (unexplored?)
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1999-OB-01 too insignificant to need a kataster number
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1999-OB-02 PG: surveyed but data/drawing missing. svx has 3 legs refer wallet 2006#?? Can't see anything in 2006#1 to 2006#33, ie scanned stuff
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1999-X-01 needs survey and tag
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2000-02 needs survey and photo
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2000-08 needs survey
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2001-02 needs survey and tag added to spit
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2001-03 needs survey
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2001-06 needs survey
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2001-07 needs survey and tag, exploration incomplete
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2001-08 needs survey and tag
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2001-09 needs resurvey (original missing)
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2001-10 needs survey
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2001-11 needs survey, or might be too short for kataster
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2001-12 needs survey - may be a VfHM cave
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2002-03 needs survey and entrance photo
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2002-05 have svx, not in PG. ent coords in 2006#1
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2002-06 surveyed, but drawing lost - may be too short for a kataster number. ent coords in 2006#1
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2002-07 have svx, not in PG
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2002-08 surveyed, but drawing lost. May be pushed by small chemical persuasion
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2002-10 needs survey and entrance photo
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2002-AD-01 needs survey and entrance photo, and tag
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2002-AD-02 needs survey and entrance photo, and tag
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2002-AD-03 needs survey and entrance photo, unmarked
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2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data
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2002-OB-01 needs survey, tag and more push
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2002-W-01 PG says needs survey, but location says "see sketch in survey notes"
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2002-W-02 PG: needs survey and tag. Seem to have 2002 svx data
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2002-X-09 unmarked and undescended
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2002-X-09b unmarked - just a rock shelter, cannot need a kataster number
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2002-X-15 unmarked, needs survey and better description if over 10m
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2002-X-16 unmarked - may not ne penetrable - one word description is illegible
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2002-X-17 unmarked, needs survey
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2002-X-18 unmarked, needs survey if over 10m
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2002-XX needs tag, surveyed, but drawing lost
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2003-01 not in PG, have a short svx - refer to wallet 2003#10
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2003-07 unmarked, location and photo may not be the right cave, and the 2003-07 tag was on 2003-08 (now 240)
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2003-X-11 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-12 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-13 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-14 needs survey and tag. See wallet 2006#12 <5m long, does not need kataster number
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2003-X-15 unmarked, needs survey
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2003-X-16 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2003-X-17 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo, or may be too short for kataster
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2003-X-18 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2004-02 needs survey and possible boulder removal
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------- "Mystery cave nearish 186" in same wallet as 2004-03 has no ID, but could be given one, and drawn up. Location ?
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2004-04 undescended, no coords
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2004-05 undescended, no coords, tag prepared but not placed 2004 - did this ever get done ? Does sound refindable...
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2004-06 undescended, no coords, ditto
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2004-07 needs survey
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2004-08 PG: needs survey. 14 legs svx, refer wallet 2006#16 - sketching really not adequate for a survey
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2004-09 undescended, no coords, tag prepared but not placed 2004, probably near (missing) 177 ...
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2004-10 PG: needs survey - may be QMs. 8 legs of svx, refer wallet 2013# xxxxx
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2004-13 needs survey and entrance photo, only marking is part-drilled spit hole
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2004-14 surveyed, but drawing lost. refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-15 svx, refer wallet 2004#41
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2004-16 undescended, drafts in
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2004-17 needs survey
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2004-18 needs survey, may go further with low snow
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2004-21 unmarked, needs survey, one QM
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2005-01 unmarked, survey done but drawing missing, needs entrance photo
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2005-02 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2005-03 unmarked, needs survey and entrance photo
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2005-06 needs survey
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2005-08 needs survey
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2005-91 needs survey, may be undescended ?
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2005-92 needs survey
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2005-93 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-94 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-95 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-96 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2005-97 needs survey, or may just be too short to need kataster number
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2005-98 needs survey - apparently not a CUCC find
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2005-99 needs survey, short but will be hard work (tight)
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2006-01 needs survey and marking - undescended
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2006-02 needs survey and marking
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2006-03 needs survey and marking
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2006-05 needs survey and entrance photo
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2006-06 surveyed, but drawing lost. ent coords in 2006#1
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2006-07 needs survey and entrance photo
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2006-08 needs survey and entrance photo - svx ? wallet 2007#31 seems to be grade 1 plan and elev but 2006#33 may be actual survey (2 legs)
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2006-09 needs survey
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2006-70 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs tag
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2006-71 not in PG. see wallet 2006#16
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2006-72 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2007-70 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2007-71 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2007-72 surveyed, but drawing lost
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2011-01 needs survey, 1 QM C
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2012-HW-01 needs survey or may be less than 10m and not needing kataster number
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2012-HW-02 unmarked, needs survey or may be too short for kataster
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2012-OK-01 unexplored, unmarked
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2012-OK-02 unexplored, unmarked
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2012-OK-03 unfnished, needs survey, may be BS17 [and this info may be superseded, 2015]
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88F not our cave, no survey
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88H not our cave, missing
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E02 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E09 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E16 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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E28 not our cave, have survey data from Arge
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HFG-KA88 not our cave, no survey
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Have got Austrian number, but not actually/adequately documented:
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(some things listed as surveyed but drawing lost may mean surveyed by Arge, so we have the data, but no pictures)
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37 & 38 to be fair, these aren't our caves, I think...
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40 we have survey data, no drawing (mostly not CUCC exploration)
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71 drawn up survey, no data (Karl Gaisberger cave, CUCC surveyed)
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76 survey of deepest parts deeply suspect (grade 1)
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80 needs survey
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81 needs survey
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82 well-documented, but original survey data thrown away
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83 PG: needs survey. Seems to be a *lot* of survey data from 2012
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84 missing since c 1977, may actually be 148
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85 needs survey - has to be done in a low-snow year
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86 missing since c 1977, 25m rift, SE of 82 - needs a search
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87 PG says no survey and marking may be wrong. I thought we did survey this ? dataset has Arge resurvey data, 2003
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87B too short for kataster and may be incorrectly marked 88
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89 missing, 25m shaft. Should have bolts, so ought to at least be indentifiable if found, but person who remembers this may be confusing it with 98
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90 needs survey
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91 needs survey
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92 missing
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93 needs survey
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94 needs survey
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95 needs survey
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96 needs survey
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97 sketch survey only - has QMs, really needs doing again (but tight and then wet)
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98 needs survey (2 pitches to c 48m depth)
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99 survey data missing. very esoteric drawn survey. links 76, so this info may be out of date ?
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100 needs survey
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101 needs survey
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102 needs survey
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103 needs survey
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104 needs survey
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105 needs survey
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106 numbering cockup
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108 needs survey and more convincing description
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109 needs survey, probably in low-snow year
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110 PG "We don't have a kitten's chance in heck of finding this" but believed now located, needs survey and entrance photo ?
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111 needs survey. wallet 2006#32 has GPS fix
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112 needs survey. wallet 2006#32 claims to be one, but is just a sketch (and then surface survey)
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113 PG says needs survey which will be quite hard as it is 330m deep, but I think that it was surveyed...
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the coords says "at start of underground survey". Suspect PG bollocks.
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114 utterly missing, no conceivable hope of finding or identifying this
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117-120 missing, but probably not CUCC anyway
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127-130 missing, but probably not CUCC anyway
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131-133 not ours, but beware we may have painted these numbers elsewhere...
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135 surveyed, but drawing lost
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136 surveyed, but drawing lost
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137 no survey or coords but near enough a known cave to refind ?
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138 surveyed, but drawing lost
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139 surveyed, but drawing lost
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140 needs survey
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141 needs pushed and surveyed, probably mislabelled 131
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146 missing, but ought to be refindable from 147, though apparently unmarked, probably undescended
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149 missing, but ought to be refindable from 145, though unmarked. needs survey
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150 actually too short for a kataster number (2m)
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151 ditto (3m?)
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152 surveyed, but drawing lost
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153 needs survey
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154 needs survey
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155 mostly undescended
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156 needs survey, may go further in a low-snow year
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157 needs survey in low snow year, and may link to 107 (PG) but seems to be 2012 survey data
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158 drawn survey, but data missing
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159 needs survey
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160 needs survey and description
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164 needs survey
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165 needs survey. PG notes another cave nearby with a non-CUCC bolt, which we should also document
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171 needs survey - no rigging, walking passage, should be easy !
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173 needs survey
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174 needs survey
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175 needs survey
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176 needs survey
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177 missing, no bolts (explored to 35m on Bunde belay)
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178 missing
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179 missing
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180 needs survey
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181 needs survey and entrance pic
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182 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag
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183 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag and entrnce pic
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184 needs survey, tag and pic
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185 PG says data but drawn survey missing. Needs tag
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186 needs survey
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187 unmarked, only partly explored
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188 needs survey
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189 needs survey
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190 needs survey
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191 needs survey and photo
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192 missing, paint marked, partially explored, has a spit (not ours?)
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194 needs survey
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197 needs survey
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198 needs survey (=B11)
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200 needs survey - OK the PG is definitely out of date, we surveyed this years ago
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201 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs photo
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202 surveyed, but drawing lost
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203 surveyed, but drawing lost
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205 needs retag
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206 surveyed, but drawing lost, coords only for 1 (of 5) ent
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209 surveyed, but drawing lost
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210 needs survey (=1998-03)
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214 needs survey
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215 Desc says "? Wookey"
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216 surveyed, but drawing lost
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217 needs survey, desc says "? Wookey"
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218 needs survey and retag (WOOK6 - which ought to have been 1996-WK-06)
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219 needs survey and retag (WOOK5 - which ought to have been 1996-WK-05)
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220 survey done, but missing
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222 needs survey and retag (9604)
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223 needs survey and retag (96-03)
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224 needs survey and retag (9602)
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225 needs survey
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226 needs survey and description
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227 needs survey and description
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228 surveyed, but drawing lost, needs marking and entrance photo
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229 surveyed, but drawing lost, spit but no tag
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230 needs survey and retag (99-04)
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235 needs survey
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236 needs survey, mistagged as 232
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237 needs survey and coords for 2 (of 3) entrances
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238 second half of survey from 2012 never drawn up
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239 needs entrance photo
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242 needs entrance photo
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243 needs entrance photo and retag (2001-05) which may have been done in 2004 (yes, PG is that out of date...)
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244 needs retag ? Second part of survey allegedly not scanned, so presumably full survey not drawn up
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245 needs retag ? Published survey still under number 2003-09 - should really redraw
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246 needs retag ?
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247 needs retag ? drawn survey, but data missing. Drawn survey is essentially a sketch, so needs a real survey
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248 needs retag ? needs entrance photo
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249 needs retag ?
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250 needs entrance photo (=2000-aa-01)
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251 needs retag ?
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253 needs entrance photos (2 ents)
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254 needs entrance photos (3 ents) 2 ents might need tags
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256 needs entrance photo
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257 needs underground description
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263 needs retag ? (2010-01)
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264 allegedly needs retag (2005-05). Seems unlikely... but no-one has actually checked (2015)
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My list of all the cave numbers including provisional numbers some of which
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may not actually have been used...
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(a) not ours:
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1 Liägerhöhle
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2 Wasserlöcher
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3 Gellerofen
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4 Ritscherbachhöhle
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5 Holzknechtbrünndlloch
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6 Quelle
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7 Bachschläg
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8 Großes Loserloch
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9 Kleines Loserloch
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10 Spalthöhle
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11 Höhle in der Loserwestwand 1
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12 Höhle in der Loserwestwand 2
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13 Knochenhöhle
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14 Schafkirche
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15 Michel-Gang
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16 Pauli-Loch
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17 Bärenhöhle im Höllgraben
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18 Gaisofen im Ammerei
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19 Gamsofen im Scharlingkar
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20 Windhöhle
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21 Windloch im Egglgrube
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22 Spiralschacht
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23 Steinbockhöhle
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24 Schachthöhle bei Egglgrubenalm
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25 Mauskothhöhle
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26 Wasserschlinger I
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27 Wasserschlinger II
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28 Augsteckhöhle
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29 Schwarzmoosloch
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30 Grundloses Loch
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31 Elchhöhle
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32 Windloch am Stögerweg
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33 Schichtgrenzenhöhle
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34 Höhle am Kratzer I
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35 Dr. Kerschner Höhle
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36 Schachtgruppe I - V
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37 Schachtgruppe beim Hinterer Schwarzmooskogel
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38 Algenhöhle
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39 SCHWA höhle 39
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40 Schwarzmooskogeleishöhle
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41 Stellerweghöhle
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42 Wasserschacht
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43 Höhle beim Wackelstein
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44 Höhle am Kratzer II
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45 Dannerschacht
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46 Engelbrechthöhle
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47 SCHWA höhle 47
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48 SCHWA höhle 48
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49 SCHWA höhle 49
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50 SCHWA höhle 50
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51 Höhlen 1-3 in Weiße Wand
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52 Sennerkeller & Sauloch
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53 Gellerliäger
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54 Seehöhle
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55 Schachthöhle west. Hochanger
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56 Hornsteinhöhle
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57 Höhle unterhalb der Schafkirche
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58 Höhle unterhalb ab Pauli-Loch
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59 Bruchshutthöhle
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60 Schacht I-IV bei Gschwandalm
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61 Gemsbockhöhle
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62 Dolinenhöhle
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63 Pseudoskorpionhöhle
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64 Gr. Durchgangshöhle
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65 Widderhöhle
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66 Löckerweghöhle
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67 Biwakhöhle am Loser
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68 Kleine Bärenhöhle
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69 Schacht am Gschirr
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70 Schneckenloch
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72 Skeletthöhle
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73 Suppentellerschacht
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74 Schneckenhaushöhle
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75 Wisenthöhle
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77 Fichtenschacht
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78 Schwaben(schacht)höhle
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79 Badenerschacht
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88 Lärchenschacht
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116 Kleine Eishöhle
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117 Stuttgarter-Schacht
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118 Schwa-Schacht 118
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119 Schwa-Schacht 119
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120 Schwa-Schacht 120
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121-126 no records
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127 Kleine Firnhöhle
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128 Enttauschungsschacht
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129 Große Firnhöhle
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130 Cäcilien-Schacht
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131 Thomas-Eishöhle
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132 Tropfsteinhöhle am Augsteck
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133 Unterstandhöhle
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134 Höhlenruine bei der Wasserstelle
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166-170 no records
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202 Dominoschacht
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203 Sonnenscheinschacht
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206 7-Eingangshöhle
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||||
211-213 no records
|
||||
228 Kleine Schnellzughöhle
|
||||
229 Weiße Höhle (ArGe - but is also CUCC surveyed and documented)
|
||||
232 Grießkogelschacht (ArGe - no docs, but not in noinfo)
|
||||
233 Betthupferie (ArGe - no docs, but not in noinfo)
|
||||
252 Bunnyschacht (ArGe - svx, no docs, but not in noinfo)
|
||||
259-262 no records
|
||||
|
||||
(b) not ours, but only known by the explorers' numbers (both GSCB, we think)
|
||||
|
||||
88F
|
||||
88H
|
||||
|
||||
(c) ours, with full kataster numbers (even though some are missing/undocumented)
|
||||
|
||||
71 Fledermaushöhle (well, sort of ours - CUCC joint with Karl. Our survey)
|
||||
76 Eislufthöhle
|
||||
80 Schwa Schacht 80
|
||||
81 Schwa Höhle 81
|
||||
82 Bräuninghöhle
|
||||
83 Schwa Schacht 83
|
||||
84 Schwa Höhle 84
|
||||
85 Schwa Höhle 85
|
||||
86 Schwa Schacht 86
|
||||
87A Schacht 87A bei Stögerweg
|
||||
87B Schacht 87B bei Stögerweg
|
||||
89 Schwa Schacht 89
|
||||
90 Bräu Schacht 90
|
||||
91 Bräu Schacht 91
|
||||
92 Bräu Schacht 92
|
||||
93 Bräu Schacht 93
|
||||
94 Bräu Schacht 94
|
||||
95 Bräu Schacht 95
|
||||
96 Bräu Schacht 96
|
||||
97 Schneewindschacht
|
||||
98 Plateau Schacht 98
|
||||
99 Plateau Schacht 99
|
||||
100 Plateau Schacht 100
|
||||
101 Plateau Schacht 101
|
||||
102 Plateau Schacht 102
|
||||
103 Plateau Schacht 103
|
||||
104 Plateau Schacht 104
|
||||
105 Plateau Schacht 105
|
||||
107 Gemshöhle
|
||||
108 Plateau Schacht 108
|
||||
109 Schwa-Schacht 109
|
||||
110 Kein Hubschrauber Höhle
|
||||
111 Plateau Schacht 111
|
||||
112 Plateau Schacht 112
|
||||
113 Sonnenstrahlhöhle
|
||||
114 Verlorenschacht 114
|
||||
115 Schnellzughöhle
|
||||
135 Schwa Schacht 135
|
||||
136 Steinschlagschacht
|
||||
137 Schwa Schacht 137
|
||||
138 Schwa Schacht 138
|
||||
139 Schwa Schacht 139
|
||||
140 Schwa Schacht 140
|
||||
141 Schwa Höhle 141
|
||||
142 Schwa Höhle 142
|
||||
143 Weiße Warze Schacht I
|
||||
144 Tony's Second Höhle
|
||||
145 Wolfhöhle
|
||||
146 Tobogganschacht
|
||||
147 Schwa Höhle 147
|
||||
148 Marilyn Monroe Höhle
|
||||
149 Plateau Schacht 149
|
||||
150 Schwa Röhrhöhle 150
|
||||
151 Schwa Höhle 151
|
||||
152 Bananehöhle
|
||||
153 Schwa Schacht 153
|
||||
154 Schwa Schacht 154
|
||||
155 Unerforscht Schacht 155
|
||||
156 Schwa Schacht 156
|
||||
157 Pirat Schacht
|
||||
158 Donner und Blitzen Höhle
|
||||
159 Winded Hole
|
||||
160 Plateau Schacht 160
|
||||
161 Kaninchenhöhle
|
||||
162 Schwa Höhle 162
|
||||
163 Schwa Höhle 163
|
||||
164 Plateau Schacht 164
|
||||
165 Schwa Schacht 165
|
||||
171 Plateau Höhle 90/1
|
||||
172 Plateau Höhle 90/2
|
||||
173 Plateau Schacht 90/3
|
||||
174 Plateau Schacht 90/4
|
||||
175 Plateau Schacht 90/5
|
||||
176 Plateau Schacht 90/6
|
||||
177 Tantalus Schacht
|
||||
178 Plateau Höhle 90/8
|
||||
179 Plateau Schacht 90/9
|
||||
180 Schwa Schacht 90/10
|
||||
181 Plateau Schacht 90/11
|
||||
181 was also provisionally given to 1623/160, but the cave never thus marked (but may appear as 181 in logbooks ?)
|
||||
182 Bovistundpuderzuckerhöhle
|
||||
183 Elchfalle
|
||||
184 Shiruken
|
||||
185 Zweijahreentstehungshöhle originally marked 183
|
||||
186 Rosenkavalierhöhle
|
||||
187 Schwa Schacht 187
|
||||
188 Skinrip Durchgange I-VI 188 might already be allocated to someone else, so this may revert to 1990-18. Need to check with Robert ?
|
||||
189 Plateau Schacht 189.
|
||||
190 Glitterstompf
|
||||
191 Schwa Schacht 191
|
||||
192 Schwa Schacht 192
|
||||
193 Schwa Schacht 193
|
||||
194 Schwa Schacht 194
|
||||
195 Schwa Schacht 195
|
||||
196 Schwa Höhle 196
|
||||
197 Bemoost Tropfen Höhle
|
||||
198 Fuchshöhle
|
||||
199 Stürzender Felsbrocken Höhle
|
||||
200 Verlorener Rucksack Schacht
|
||||
201 Haftefelle Schacht
|
||||
204 Steinbrückenhöhle
|
||||
205 Nordalpenschacht
|
||||
207 Plumpsklohöhle
|
||||
208 Quallenhöhle
|
||||
209 Schistock-Absturzschacht
|
||||
210 Fettsack und Faulpelz höhle
|
||||
214 Segment cave
|
||||
215 Rufverbindungshöhle
|
||||
216 Nichts 50
|
||||
217 Schneepfropfenhöhle
|
||||
218 Hammerkopfabsturtzhöhle
|
||||
219 Tertaeingfester
|
||||
220 Kennedy Alternative
|
||||
221 ? seems no record of this on site
|
||||
222 Gösserhöhle
|
||||
223 Eggenbergschacht
|
||||
224 Toplesscayonhöhle (typo for Toplesscanyonhöhle?)
|
||||
225 Jahrzehnschacht
|
||||
226 Skaschacht
|
||||
227 Faultienschacht
|
||||
230 Vergeßlichheithöhle
|
||||
231 Traungoldhöhle
|
||||
234 Hauchhöhle
|
||||
235 Schaukelfelsbrockenhöhle
|
||||
236 Moostunnelhöhle
|
||||
237 Dreieingangabdrosselnhöhle
|
||||
238 Flinkameiseschacht
|
||||
239 Rock'n'Roll Höhle
|
||||
240 Gewölbeschacht
|
||||
241 Dreieckhöhle
|
||||
242 Tropfelhöhle
|
||||
243 GNDN Höhle
|
||||
244 Dünne Faulpelz Höhle
|
||||
245 Weizeneishöhle
|
||||
246 Damoclesschacht
|
||||
247 Kartoffelbreihöhle
|
||||
248 Blaudrachenschacht
|
||||
249 Artischockehöhle
|
||||
250 Schönschrifthöhle
|
||||
251 In Ihrer Gesichtshöhle
|
||||
253 Rundreisehöhle (survex file still under 2004-15)
|
||||
254 Kindergartenhöhle (survex file still under 2004-19)
|
||||
255 Brecheisenhöhle (survex file still under 2004-20)
|
||||
256 Nischehöhle (survex file still under 2003-01)
|
||||
257 Daumenkinohöhle (survex file still under 2005-07)
|
||||
258 Tunnockschacht
|
||||
263 Clownhöhle
|
||||
264 Balkonhöhle
|
||||
|
||||
(d) our internal numbers. When given full kataster status, => official number
|
||||
otherwise, these caves are awaiting submission to Robert. We (try to) say elsewhere how complete the documentation is,
|
||||
as part of a drive to identify caves we actually could submit to Robert. Depressingly few...
|
||||
The other motivation for this file is to identify gaps in numbering that imply finds which are so poorly recorded that
|
||||
there is nothing in the Prospecting guide saying what needs doing !
|
||||
|
||||
1977/11 expo.survex.com/years/1988/164.htm refers to this number, which is almost certainly 1976-B11
|
||||
1987-01 might be 199 Stürzender Felsbrocken Höhle but web page for 199 doesn't say.
|
||||
This is just an AERW memory to remind me to check logbook.
|
||||
1987-02
|
||||
1989-01
|
||||
1990-01 => 1623/171
|
||||
1990-02 => 1623/172
|
||||
1990-03 => 1623/173
|
||||
1990-04 => 1623/174
|
||||
1990-05 => 1623/175
|
||||
1990-06 => 1623/176
|
||||
1990-07 => 1623/177 Tantalus Schacht (which is missing completely)
|
||||
1990-08 => 1623/178
|
||||
1990-09 => 1623/179
|
||||
1990-10 => 1623/180
|
||||
1990-11 => 1623/181
|
||||
1990-12 => 1623/182 Bovistundpuderzuckerhöhle
|
||||
1990-13 => 1623/183 Elchfalle
|
||||
1990-14 => 1623/184 Shiruken
|
||||
; the expo report specifically documents 1-14 and nothing else
|
||||
1990-15 website says this (almost certainly) doesn't exist and is a typo
|
||||
1990-18 => 1623/188, but CUCC may have used this number without kataster submission
|
||||
1990-ADAM => 1623/225 Jahrzehnschacht
|
||||
1992-X01
|
||||
1993-01 => 1623/200 Verlorener Rucksack Schacht
|
||||
1996-01 Ski-pole höhle
|
||||
1996-02 => 1623/224 Toplesscayonhöhle
|
||||
1996-03 => 1623/223 Eggenbergschacht
|
||||
|
||||
1996-04 => 1623/222 Gösserhöhle
|
||||
1996-05
|
||||
1996-X01
|
||||
1996WK2 => 1623/207 Plumpsklohöhle
|
||||
1996WK3 => 1623/208 Quallenhöhle
|
||||
1996WK4
|
||||
1996WK5 => 1623/219 Tertaeingfester
|
||||
1996WK6 => 1623/218 Hammerkopfabsturtzhöhle
|
||||
1996WK7 appears to have been retagged => 1997-07
|
||||
1996WK8 => 1623/209 (maybe also 1996-08 and/or 1997-08) Schistock-Absturzschacht
|
||||
1996WK9 appears to have been retagged => 1997-08 (which covered WK8, WK9, WK10)
|
||||
1996WK10 see WK9
|
||||
1996WK11
|
||||
1996WK12
|
||||
1997-07
|
||||
1998-01 => 1623/201 Haftefelle Schacht (at one time erroneously tagged 1998-02)
|
||||
1998-03 => 1623/210 Fettsack und Faulpelz höhle
|
||||
1998-X01
|
||||
1999-01 seems to have been the actual tag applied to 1999-BO-01, so probably => 1623/205
|
||||
1999-03 => 1623/204 Steinbrückenhöhle
|
||||
1999-04 => 1623/230 Vergeßlichheithöhle
|
||||
1999-10 => 1623/162b
|
||||
1999-BO-01 => 1623/205 Nordalpenschacht (maybe this is web page error for 1999-OB-01 ? page says tag is 1999-01)
|
||||
1999-OB-01
|
||||
1999-OB-02
|
||||
1999-OB-03 => 1623/226 Skaschacht
|
||||
1999-OB-04 => 1623/227 Faultienschacht
|
||||
1999-X01
|
||||
1999_MS_01
|
||||
1999_MS_02
|
||||
2000-01 => 1623/231 Traungoldhöhle
|
||||
2000-02 ('plus' cave on ridge up to hinter - see '96 docs)
|
||||
2000-03 => 1623/214 Segment Cave
|
||||
2000-04 => 1623/220 Kennedy Alternative
|
||||
2000-05 => 1623/215 Rufverbindungshöhle
|
||||
2000-06 => 1623/216 Nichts 50
|
||||
2000-07 => 1623/217 Schneepfropfenhöhle
|
||||
2000-08 Grabenkrieghöhle
|
||||
2000-09 => 1623/234 Hauchhöhle
|
||||
2000-AA-01 => 1623/250 Schönschrifthöhle
|
||||
2001-02 documented as 1½ body lengths (by Animal - c 1.65m), which is too small for a kataster number
|
||||
2001-03 Unnamed
|
||||
2001-04 => 1623/239 Rock'n'Roll Höhle
|
||||
2001-05 => 1623/243 GNDN Höhle
|
||||
2001-06 Erbärmlichbaumhöhle
|
||||
2001-07 Hoffnungschacht
|
||||
2001-08 Schneeoberlichtschacht
|
||||
2001-09 Funkberaterschacht
|
||||
2001-10 Großarbeithöhle
|
||||
2001-11 Schnürsenkelschacht
|
||||
2001-12 Unnotiggewohnlichkeitschacht
|
||||
2001-046 number is referred to in description of 1623/239 (=2001-04). Maybe a typo for 2001-04b ?
|
||||
2002-01 => 1623/249 Artischockehöhle
|
||||
2002-02 => 1623/234B
|
||||
2002-03 Igelhöhle
|
||||
2002-04 => 1623/242 Tropfelhöhle
|
||||
2002-05 Rhabarberhöhle
|
||||
2002-06 Eiercremehöhle
|
||||
2002-07
|
||||
2002-08
|
||||
2002-10
|
||||
2002-AD-01 Unamed
|
||||
2002-AD-02
|
||||
2002-AD-03
|
||||
2002-AD-04 Klippenhöhle
|
||||
2002-OB-01
|
||||
2002-W-01
|
||||
2002-W-02
|
||||
2002-X09
|
||||
2002-X09B
|
||||
2002-X11 => 2005-08
|
||||
2002-X12 => 2005-07 => 1623/257 Daumenkinohöhle
|
||||
2002-X13 => 2005-06 L Shaft
|
||||
2002-X14 => 2005-05 => 1623/264 Balkonhöhle now quite important ;-)
|
||||
2002-X15
|
||||
2002-X16
|
||||
2002-X17
|
||||
2002-X18
|
||||
2002-XX
|
||||
2003-01 => 1623/256 Nischehöhle
|
||||
2003-02 => 1623/248 Blaudrachenschacht
|
||||
2003-03 => 1623/247 Kartoffelbreihöhle
|
||||
2003-04 => 1623/241 Dreieckhöhle
|
||||
2003-05 => 1623/246 Damoclesschacht
|
||||
2003-06 => 1623/161g
|
||||
2003-07
|
||||
2003-08 => 1623/240 Gewölbeschacht
|
||||
2003-09 => 1623/245 Weizeneishöhle
|
||||
2003-10 => 1623/244 Dünne Faulpelz Höhle
|
||||
2003-X11
|
||||
2003-X12
|
||||
2003-X13
|
||||
2003-X14 Knochenloch
|
||||
2003-X15 Gipfelschacht
|
||||
2003-X16
|
||||
2003-X17
|
||||
2003-X18
|
||||
2004-01 [2006#6]
|
||||
2004-02
|
||||
2004-03 [2006#15]
|
||||
2004-04
|
||||
2004-05
|
||||
2004-06
|
||||
2004-07
|
||||
2004-08
|
||||
2004-09
|
||||
2004-10
|
||||
2004-11 => 1623/251 In Ihrer Gesichtshöhle
|
||||
2004-12 => 1623/161h
|
||||
2004-13
|
||||
2004-14 Doktorarbeitloch
|
||||
2004-15 => 1623/253 Rundreisehöhle
|
||||
2004-16
|
||||
2004-17
|
||||
2004-18
|
||||
2004-19 => 1623/254 Kindergartenhöhle
|
||||
2004-20 => 1623/255 Brecheisenhöhle
|
||||
2004-21
|
||||
2005-01
|
||||
2005-02
|
||||
2005-03
|
||||
2005-04 => 1623/204h
|
||||
2005-05 => 1623/264 Balkonhöhle [The original ID 2005-05 was also used (briefly) for another entrance, which was found the next day to connect to 204, and designated as 204G]
|
||||
2005-06 L Shaft
|
||||
2005-07 => 1623/257 Daumenkinohöhle
|
||||
2005-08
|
||||
2005-91
|
||||
2005-92
|
||||
2005-93
|
||||
2005-94
|
||||
2005-95
|
||||
2005-96 Schlotschacht
|
||||
2005-97 Genutetschacht
|
||||
2005-98
|
||||
2005-99 Ohne Mantel Höhle
|
||||
2006-01
|
||||
2006-02
|
||||
2006-03
|
||||
2006-05
|
||||
2006-06 Bogenhöhle
|
||||
2006-07 Infrared Spectrometer
|
||||
2006-08 Knackered Tacklesack Cave
|
||||
2006-09 Random Schacht
|
||||
2006-70 Cairn Cave
|
||||
2006-71
|
||||
2006-72
|
||||
2006-73 Ice Curtain Cave
|
||||
2007-70 Spit Pot
|
||||
2007-71 Olly reports over 100m long (verbal, 2015-08-06)
|
||||
2007-72 Batter Pot
|
||||
2010-01 => 1623/263 Clownhöhle
|
||||
2010-03 2010-03
|
||||
2011-01 BS30 Kugelzweitehöhle
|
||||
2012-HW-01 Unamed
|
||||
2012-HW-02 Unamed
|
||||
2012-OK-01 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-OK-02 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-OK-03 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-01 2012-dd-01
|
||||
2012-dd-02 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-03 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-04 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-05 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-06 Big D höhle
|
||||
2012-dd-07 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-08 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-09 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-10 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-dd-11 Unnamed
|
||||
2012-ns-03 Slime Cave
|
||||
2012-ns-09 Bergspitze Schacht
|
||||
2012-ns-10 Kleine Baum Höhle
|
||||
2012-ns-13 Moth Cave
|
||||
2014-NEO-01 Ferkerhöhle
|
||||
2014-SD-01 2014 SD 01
|
||||
A1 CUCC 1976/A1
|
||||
B1 CUCC 1976/B1
|
||||
B2 CUCC 1976/B2
|
||||
B3 CUCC 1976/B3
|
||||
B4 CUCC 1976/B4 his is easy to finf, and ought to be easy to survey. For fuck sake get rid of it !
|
||||
B5 CUCC 1976/B5 conceivably => 1623/35
|
||||
B6 CUCC 1976/B6
|
||||
B7 CUCC 1976/B7
|
||||
B8 CUCC 1976/B8 => 1623/197 Bemoost Tropfen Höhle
|
||||
B9 CUCC 1976/B9 => 1623/190 Glitterstompf
|
||||
B10 CUCC 1976/B10
|
||||
B11 CUCC 1976/B11 => 1623/198 Fuchshöhle
|
||||
BS1-15
|
||||
BS16 BS16
|
||||
BS17 Organhöhle
|
||||
BS18
|
||||
BS19
|
||||
BS20-nn?
|
||||
CUCC2015DL01 Shagged Spit Hoehle
|
||||
CUCC2015DL02 Chossy Death Slope Hoehle
|
||||
HFG-KA88
|
||||
LA25 LUSS/LA25
|
||||
LA26 LUSS/LA26
|
||||
LA27 LUSS/LA27
|
||||
LA30 LUSS/LA30
|
||||
LA34 Rätselhöhle
|
||||
LA35 LUSS/LA35
|
||||
LA37 LUSS/LA37
|
||||
LA38 LUSS/LA38
|
||||
LA40 LUSS/LA40
|
||||
|
||||
that's ~ 135 provisional numbers (not including BS and LA caves)
|
||||
|
||||
(e) *discernible* gaps in the above sequences.
|
||||
Of course, there may be other numbers used whose existence cannot be deduced from obvious gaps....
|
||||
|
||||
Discernible gaps (ie. numbers that logically seem to ought have been used but can't be
|
||||
found anywhere using grep on likely strings.
|
||||
|
||||
; the expo report specifically documents 1990/1-14 and nothing else
|
||||
; 15 is documented as a probable typo believed never to have referred to an actual cave, 18 may be a logical (but wrong) deduction, and 16, 17 must also never have existed.
|
||||
1990-16
|
||||
1990-17
|
||||
1996WK1 not in PG, not found by grep
|
||||
1997-01
|
||||
1997-02
|
||||
1997-03
|
||||
1997-04
|
||||
1997-05
|
||||
1997-06
|
||||
1998-02 this tag used for what was really 1998-01, which is documented, so never existed.
|
||||
1999-02
|
||||
1999-05
|
||||
1999-06
|
||||
1999-07
|
||||
1999-08
|
||||
1999-09
|
||||
2001-01
|
||||
2002-09 see 2007 log. "Don't think this should be assigned a
|
||||
kataster number as it is v. small.", but it *is* tagged (2007-07-22 Juia)
|
||||
2002-X01 to X08
|
||||
2002-X10
|
||||
2003-X01 to X10 (suspect these are == 2003-01...)
|
||||
2006-04 mentioned once in 2006 log - definitely big enough for kataster
|
||||
2010-02 lon="13.82211997" lat="47.69639036" 1905.80 p2010-02 in map/ents.gpx
|
||||
2012-ns-01 lon="13.82066426" lat="47.69668055" 1861.81 p2012-ns-01
|
||||
2012-ns-02 lon="13.82176965" lat="47.69849151" 1922.80 p2012-ns-02
|
||||
2012-ns-04 not in PG, not found by grep
|
||||
2012-ns-05 lon="13.82221138" lat="47.69960292" 1913.80 p2012-ns-05
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2012-ns-06 lon="13.82232847" lat="47.69973005" 1916.80 p2012-ns-06
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2012-ns-07 lon="13.82247902" lat="47.70014557" 1922.80 p2012-ns-07
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2012-ns-08 lon="13.82223088" lat="47.70051187" 1928.80 p2012-ns-08
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2012-ns-11 lon="13.82058718" lat="47.70010815" 1923.80 p2012-ns-11
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2012-ns-12 lon="13.82129671" lat="47.70115017" 1925.80 p2012-ns-12
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the ones with locations obviously exist, but are not in the Prospecting
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Guide or documented elsewhere (that I've found, yet).
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So that's at least 10 more that do indeed exist in some form.
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