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<h1>CUCC's high camps on <span lang="de-at">Loser</span></h1> <h1>CUCC's high camps on <span lang="de-at">Loser</span></h1>
<p>Over the couple of decades for which CUCC have been visiting the <p>Over the couple of decades for which CUCC have been visiting the <span
<span lang="de-at">Loser-AugstEck</span> plateau, they have found it lang="de-at">Loser-AugstEck</span> plateau, they have found it essential to
essential to camp nearer the caves than the base camps in camp nearer the caves than the base camps in <span
<span lang="de-at">Altaussee</span> (1976-82) and lang="de-at">Altaussee</span> (1976-82) and <span lang="de-at">Grundlsee</span>
<span lang="de-at">Grundlsee</span> (1983 to present). The (1983 to present). The <a href="years/1978/log.htm#driveroty">1978 accident</a>
<a href="years/1978/log.htm#driveroty">1978 accident</a> demonstrated the demonstrated the foolishness of trying to conduct long explorations without a
foolishness of trying to conduct long explorations without a high camp. high camp. Several people have been benighted on the plateau over the years
Several people have been benighted on the plateau over the years and the two and the two rescues in 1989 show the value of rapid assistance from Top Camp in
rescues in 1989 show the value of rapid assistance from Top Camp in the event the event of a mishap underground. Numerous people have been assisted quickly
of a mishap underground. Numerous people have been assisted quickly by cavers by cavers based at Top Camp in the years since, thus avoiding any more serious
based at Top Camp in the years since, thus avoiding any more serious incidents.</p>
incidents.
<p>The terminology of these camps has sometimes become confused, as better <p>The terminology of these camps has sometimes become confused, as better
campsites were found by people who did not even know of the existence of the campsites were found by people who did not even know of the existence of the
previous ones. At some time, virtually every camp has been called "Camp previous ones. At some time, virtually every camp has been called "Camp 1" by
1" by someone or other ! Note that camping is not allowed without someone or other ! Note that camping is not allowed without permission, and we
permission, and we have recently been informed that since 1993 it has been have recently been informed that since 1993 it has been <b>illegal</b> to camp
<b>illegal</b> to camp at all, within the Nature Reserve at all, within the Nature Reserve <span lang="de">(Naturschutzgebiet)</span>
<span lang="de">(Naturschutzgebiet)</span> area. area.</p>
<h3><a name="1977camp">1977</a> Advance Camp</h3> <h3><a name="1977camp">1977</a> Advance Camp</h3>
<p>CUCC's first high camp was set up in 1977, on a site identified on the <p>CUCC's first high camp was set up in 1977, on a site identified on the first
first visit in 1976. This was on an area of pasture above a small limestone visit in 1976. This was on an area of pasture above a small limestone scar from
scar from <a href="br-alm/index.htm"><span lang="de-at">Br&auml;uning <a href="br-alm/index.htm"><span lang="de-at">Br&auml;uning Alm</span></a>. At
Alm</span></a>. At the time, the springs in the valley here were the only the time, the springs in the valley here were the only reliable water supply we
reliable water supply we had discovered. There were caves nearby, as well as had discovered. There were caves nearby, as well as ones on the plateau to
ones on the plateau to explore, so the site proved very pleasant, until explore, so the site proved very pleasant, until washed out in one (of many)
washed out in one (of many) mega-thunderstorm. mega-thunderstorm.</p>
<p><center><a href="br-alm/l/tc1977.htm"> <table class="imgtable">
<img src="br-alm/t/tc1977.jpg" align=middle width=158 height=108 <tr><td>
alt="Camp 1977"></a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="br-alm/l/tc77a.htm"> <a href="br-alm/l/tc1977.htm"><img src="br-alm/t/tc1977.jpg"
<img src="br-alm/t/tc77a.jpg" align=middle width=138 height=103 width="158" height="108" alt="Camp 1977" /></a></td>
alt="Camp 1977"></a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="br-alm/l/tc77b.htm"> <td><a href="br-alm/l/tc77a.htm">
<img src="br-alm/t/tc77b.jpg" align=middle width=151 height=88 <img src="br-alm/t/tc77a.jpg" width="138" height="103"
alt="Camp 1977"></a></center> alt="Camp 1977" /></a></td>
<td><a href="br-alm/l/tc77b.htm">
<br><center>1977 Advance camp.</center> <img src="br-alm/t/tc77b.jpg" width="151" height="88"
alt="Camp 1977" /></a></td></tr>
<tr><td class="caption" colspan="3">
Views of 1977 Advance camp.</td></tr></table>
<h3><a name="1979camp"><span lang="de-at">Schwarzmoossattel</span></a> <h3><a name="1979camp"><span lang="de-at">Schwarzmoossattel</span></a>
bivouac</h3> bivouac</h3>
@@ -66,25 +69,35 @@ drive down, as Julian Griffiths demonstrated. Having stayed awake down all
the seriously fatal hairpin bends, the car drove itself through a fence and the seriously fatal hairpin bends, the car drove itself through a fence and
down a 10m drop in the valley below. The mangled steering wheel, bent by a down a 10m drop in the valley below. The mangled steering wheel, bent by a
tree-sized piece of fence coming through the windscreen, became CUCC's tree-sized piece of fence coming through the windscreen, became CUCC's
"Driver of the Year" award at subsequent dinners. "Driver of the Year" award at subsequent dinners.</p>
<p>It was realised that for overnight trips to work, there had to be at least <p>It was realised that for overnight trips to work, there had to be at least
a bivouac of some sort near the plateau. A tiny trickle of water was found, a bivouac of some sort near the plateau. A tiny trickle of water was found,
which could be used to fill a water container buried in the ground, and a which could be used to fill a water container buried in the ground, and a
single tent established just to the south of single tent established just to the south of <span
<span lang="de-at">Schwarzmoossattel</span> ("The Col") in 1979. This never lang="de-at">Schwarzmoossattel</span> ("The Col") in 1979. This never really
really deserved the title "camp". It was never used again, as exploration in deserved the title "camp". It was never used again, as exploration in 1980
1980 switched to the <span lang="de-at">Stellerwegh&ouml;hle</span> area, and switched to the <span lang="de-at">Stellerwegh&ouml;hle</span> area, and
neither of the previous high camps were really of any use. neither of the previous high camps were really of any use.</p>
<h3><a name="topcamp">Top Camp</a></h3> <h3><a name="topcamp">Top Camp</a></h3>
<p><a href="piclinks/tpcamp.htm"> <table class="imgtable">
<img src="tinypix/tpcamp.jpg" align=middle width=166 height=114 <tr><td><a href="piclinks/tpcamp.htm">
alt="Top Camp"></a> Top Camp on upper site, 1993 <img src="tinypix/tpcamp.jpg" width="166" height="114"
alt="Top Camp" /></a></td>
<p><a href="piclinks/tc1996.htm"><img align=middle width=200 height=134 <td><a href="piclinks/tc1996.htm"><img width="200" height="134"
src="tinypix/tc1996.jpg"></a> 1996 Top Camp on lower site. src="tinypix/tc1996.jpg" alt="Top Camp" /></a></td>
<td><a href="piclinks/tc-161.htm">
<img src="tinypix/tc-161.jpg" width="181" height="123"
alt="Top Camp from 161" /></a></td>
</tr>
<tr class="caption">
<td>Top Camp on upper site, 1993
</td><td>Lower site, 1996</td>
<td>Seen from <span lang="de">Schwarzmooskogel</span> ridge
</td>
</tr></table>
<p>More recently, a really good permanent spring was found in a small <p>More recently, a really good permanent spring was found in a small
climbable shaft a short way beyond climbable shaft a short way beyond
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chronology. More recently it has been known just as "Top Camp". In chronology. More recently it has been known just as "Top Camp". In
fact, to minimise the impact on grassy areas, the camp has alternated between fact, to minimise the impact on grassy areas, the camp has alternated between
the small site immediately adjacent to the spring and a larger (but boggier) the small site immediately adjacent to the spring and a larger (but boggier)
area a little lower (used in 1994, 1996, 1998 etc.). area a little lower (used in 1994, 1996, 1998 etc.).</p>
<center><p><a href="piclinks/tc-161.htm">
<img src="tinypix/tc-161.jpg" align=bottom width=181 height=123
alt="Top Camp de 161"></a></center><br>
<center>Top Camp below the <span lang="de">Br&auml;uning</span> wall, from
the walk to <span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle.</span></center>
<h3><a name="vd1camp">VD1 Camp</a></h3> <h3><a name="vd1camp">VD1 Camp</a></h3>
<p>In 1988, and again in 1989, there was a small advance <p>In 1988, and again in 1989, there was a small advance camp much nearer to
camp much nearer to the <span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> entrance, again to overcome the trials of crossing the very rough plateau in the dark. the <span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> entrance, again to overcome the
This was on a relatively flat area of low bunde (dwarf pine) just on the east trials of crossing the very rough plateau in the dark. This was on a relatively
side of the flat area of limestone on which the permanent survey station flat area of low bunde (dwarf pine) just on the east side of the flat area of
"VD1" is located, on the normal walk up to the 161 entrances on the col limestone on which the permanent survey station "VD1" is located, on the normal
between the <span lang="de-at">Vorderer</span> and walk up to the 161 entrances on the col between the <span
<span lang="de-at">Hinterer Schwarzmooskogels.</span> This was variously lang="de-at">Vorderer</span> and <span lang="de-at">Hinterer
known as 'far campsite' or 'Camp 2', in the logbooks. A lack of water, Schwarzmooskogels.</span> This was variously known as 'far campsite' or 'Camp
sanitation, space and comfort led to this camp being abandoned. 2', in the logbooks. A lack of water, sanitation, space and comfort led to this
camp being abandoned.</p>
<h3>Scarface Camp</h3> <h3>Scarface Camp</h3>
<p>It was hoped that in 1996, a new Top Camp would be established somewhere <p>It was hoped that in 1996, a new Top Camp would be established somewhere
where access to the 161d, 'Scarface' entrance to where access to the 161d, 'Scarface' entrance to <span
<span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> would be easier, as all trips lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> would be easier, as all trips used this
used this new entrance, giving rapid access to the majority of current new entrance, giving rapid access to the majority of current question marks in
question marks in the cave. Unfortunately, access via the the cave. Unfortunately, access via the <span lang="de-at">Stogerweg</span>
<span lang="de-at">Stogerweg</span> proved to be more strenuous proved to be more strenuous than from the old plateau top camp, and no usable
than from the old plateau top camp, and no usable water supply was water supply was found, so this campsite never came into existence. <!--If work to
found, so this campsite never came into existence. If work to link link <span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> to the <span
<span lang="de">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</span> to the lang="de-at">Schwarzmooskogel</span> systems means a lot of caving in
<span lang="de-at">Schwarzmooskogel</span> systems means a lot of caving in
places such as <span lang="de">Schneevulkanhalle,</span> it may yet be places such as <span lang="de">Schneevulkanhalle,</span> it may yet be
practical and necessary to establish a bivouac site somewhere near the 201 practical and necessary to establish a bivouac site somewhere near the 201
<span lang="de-at">Stogerweg</span> path. However, a reasonably good route <span lang="de-at">Stogerweg</span> path. However, a reasonably good route was
was established from Top Camp to the <span lang="de-at">Eish&ouml;hle</span> established from Top Camp to the <span lang="de-at">Eish&ouml;hle</span> area
area in 1998 and there seems little need now to establish a new high camp. in 1998 and there seems little need now to establish a new high camp.--></p>
<h3>40 bivy</h3> <h3>40 bivy</h3>
<p>In 2001 people decided to bivy nearer to the the cave entrances. This <p>In 2001 people decided to bivy nearer to the the cave entrances. This
involved putting up tarpaulins in natural shelters, and sleeping on involved putting up tarpaulins in natural shelters, and sleeping on inflatable
inflatable lilos. The 40 bivy is in the main 40a Eish&ouml;hle entrance. lilos. The 40 bivy is in the main 40a <span lang="de-at">Eish&ouml;hle</span>
It is surprisingly comfortable as this entrance does not have a cold gale entrance. It is surprisingly comfortable as this entrance does not have a cold
coming out of it, and the floor is very flat. It is luxurious for 2, comfy gale coming out of it, and the floor is very flat. It is luxurious for 2, comfy
for 3 and can sleep 4. Water is collected by putitng a tarp. in a steep for 3 and can sleep 4. Water is collected by putting a tarp. in a steep gulley
gulley opposite with a hose to a butt in the bivi - very effective. opposite with a hose to a butt in the bivi - very effective.</p>
<center><p><a href="images/40bivy.jpg">
<img src="tinypix/40bivy.jpg" align=bottom width=200 height=128 <div class="centre"><a href="images/40bivy.jpg"><img src="tinypix/40bivy.jpg"
alt="40 bivy"></a></center><br> width="200" height="128" alt="40 bivvy" /></a></div>
<h3>204 bivy</h3> <h3>204 bivy</h3>
<p>In 2001 people decided to bivy nearer to the the cave entrances. Cavers <p>In 2001 people decided to bivy nearer to the the cave entrances. Cavers
used the stone bridge that 204 is named after. The sloping floor was terraced used the stone bridge that 204 is named after. The sloping floor was terraced
and flat sleeping and cooking areas were made. Tarpaulins were put up to and flat sleeping and cooking areas were made. Tarpaulins were put up to
reduce the drips and wind. Water was obtained from snow at 231, collecting reduce the drips and wind. Water was obtained from snow at 231, collecting
drips in 231 and a funnel inserted in a grike on the roof of the stone bridge. drips in 231 and a funnel inserted in a grike on the roof of the stone bridge.
Two butts were used for water storage.</p> Two butts were used for water storage.</p>
<p>This camp was the main high camp for
2002 and the only one in 2003; it has been extensively reterraced to increase
its capacity (as of 2003 it could sleep 12), and the water collection methods
refined, to give an exceedingly comfortable bivvy site.
<center><p><a href="images/204bivy.jpg">
<img src="tinypix/204bivy.jpg" align=bottom width=200 height=135
alt="40 bivy"></a></center><br>
<p>This camp was the main high camp in 2002 and the only one in 2003; it has
been extensively reterraced to increase its capacity (as of 2003 it could sleep
12), and the water collection methods refined, to give an exceedingly
comfortable bivvy site.</p>
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