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<p>10-11/7/99 Duncan, <u>Erin</u>
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<p>1999-07-10 | Journey - Journey | Duncan, <u>Erin</u></p>
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<p>Duncan arrived at Cambridge at 10:20 and a mere 7 hours later we set off
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for the ferry. Thanks to earl's magnificent trailer-packing, we didn't need
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for the ferry. Thanks to Earl's magnificent trailer-packing, we didn't need
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to fettle it at all along the way. Duncan's new "Northern Expo Route*" was
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pretty successful, although we did manage to get lost in Brussels and
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inadvertantly explore their tunnel network (T.U. 20 minutes)
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@@ -31,7 +31,9 @@ inadvertantly explore their tunnel network (T.U. 20 minutes)
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instead of A8
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<p>9/10/11/7/99 Julian T, Theo (from Cambridge) + <u>Becka</u>
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<p>1999-07-10 | Journey - Journey | Julian T, Theo + <u>Becka</u></p>
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<p>Theo (from Cambridge)</p>
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<p>Julian left Cambridge 1 pm, ballsed up the ferry, finally got to France,
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Dover 7 pm, turned up in Tuebingen 10 am next morning, via a bit of a
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@@ -41,7 +43,7 @@ Austria, arrived 9 pm. Said hi to Hilde, had a couple of beers + collapsed
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(John had beaten us here by an hour)
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<hr />
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<p><a name="start">11/7/99 Julian T, <u>Becka</u>, John, Theo</a>
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<p><a name="start">1999-07-11 | Loser Plateau - Carries | Julian T, <u>Becka</u>, John, Theo</a>
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<p>Did 2 carries each to set up Top Camp - all the rope we'd got, all the
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bolts + tacklesacks, tent, gear, food etc. On the way back from the 2nd, went
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@@ -52,20 +54,21 @@ contoured to Julian then more contouring on 60° slopes + back via the
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lake. Duncan already 2 beers down when we got back.
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<hr />
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<p>10/7/99 <u>John P</u>
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<p>1999-07-10 | Journey - Journey | <u>John P</u></p>
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<p>Got here by plane - Munich - and was the very first person to arrive this
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year. Got stranded in town and buggered up the public phone in a cafe, but
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got a lift to the gasthof eventually. Ju, B, T got here later and spent
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evening in gasthof cafe.
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<hr />
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<p> 11/7/99 <u>John P</u>, Julian, Becky, Theo
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<p>1999-07-11 | Loser Plateau - Carries | <u>John P</u>, Julian T, Becka, Theo </p>
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<p>Carried some stuff up then buggered around the local hills as above. Yes,
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the main route to top camp is by far the easiest.
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<hr />
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<p>12/7/99 <u>John P</u>, Duncan, Erin, Theo
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<p>1999-07-12 | Base Camp - Base Camp | <u>John P</u>, Duncan, Erin, Theo </p>
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<p>Somewhat fewer concrete achievements today but went into town for food
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etc., bolts for the beer tent etc. Set up the 'new' tent, spent the rest of
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@@ -74,7 +77,7 @@ green chillis, bench traversing, trying to ride Julian's unicycle, wrestling
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and stuff.
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<hr />
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<p>Friday 16th July "Bullethöhle" <u>Dunks</u>, Theo, Erin, John P
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<p>1999-07-16 | Cave - Bullethöhle | <u>Dunks</u>, Theo, Erin, John P </p>
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<p>Strolled out across the plateau to find a hole I noted last year, which
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rattled for a while when stones were lobbed down it, but which was
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@@ -106,7 +109,7 @@ it was, it simply reddened the skin of my wrist a bit.
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went back to TC as it was raining.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-161-1">Saturday 17th July Triassic Park, <u>Dunks</u>, Theo, Erin, John P</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-1">1999-07-17 | 161 - Triassic Park | <u>Dunks</u>, Theo, Erin, John P</p>
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<p>A stroll along Triassic Park to show the other 3 around. En route, we
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looked at a few qms, some documented, some undocumented, in order to decide
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@@ -125,9 +128,9 @@ which both choked after a short distance.
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<p align=right>TU 5¼
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<p>Tuesday 20th July Dunks, Mick
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<p>1999-07-20 | 136 - 161 - Steinschlagschacht to Scarface through trip | <u>Dunks</u>, Mick</p>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-4">Steinschlagschacht --> Scarface through trip</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-4"></a>
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<p>Went to push pitch off top left hand corner of HOTMC. My first trip down
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SSS and Mick's first ever trip on expo. Very impressed by the endless
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@@ -161,9 +164,7 @@ from a knobble for Mick to prussik up. Then out of 161d.
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<p align=right>TU 10½
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<p><a id="id1999-136-1">Sunday 18th July Brian, Julian H</a>
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<p>Rigging in to Steinschlagschacht (136)
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<p><a id="id1999-136-1">1999-07-18 | 136 - Rigging in to Steinschlagschacht | Brian, Julian H</p>
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<p>Packed 3 bags of rope (330m), 50 hangers and 10 slings and went caving.
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Two carries to the cave and much farting about later we eventually got
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@@ -193,34 +194,35 @@ I moved the rebelay bolt to the other wall which seems to have fixed the rub
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without the need for Andy A's deviation (from a <u>very</u> shoddy spit).
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<p>Eventually arrived at the bottom of the Theatre and went for a look at the
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aven that I'd planned to climb. Unfrtunately it wasn't quite as I'd
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aven that I'd planned to climb. Unfortunately it wasn't quite as I'd
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remembered it!
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<p>T/U 6½ hours
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<hr />
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<p>Wednesday 21 July <u>Dunks</u>
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<p>1999-07-21 | Base Camp - Base Camp | <u>Dunks</u> </p>
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<p>Oh look! [arrow points to a toenail sellotaped in to the book]
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<p>My little toenail has just fallen off!
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<hr />
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<p>21/7/99 Anthony & Julia make it to expo. It took us about 16 days,
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although we did get diverted via Turkey for a bit. My luggage was a little
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<p>1999-07-21 | Journey - Anthony + Julia make it to expo | Anthony + Julia </p>
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It took us about 16 days, although we did get diverted via Turkey for a bit. My luggage was a little
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reticent about joining us, and is probably in Paris as I write these
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(illegible) lines.
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<p>Anyway, I appear to be here & my beer isn't quite empty ....
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<hr />
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<p>21/7/99 Mark S - lovely flight from Stansted -> Salzburg. 1 h 20 m :-)
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<p>1999-07-21 | Journey - Journey | <u>Mark S</u></p>
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Lovely flight from Stansted -> Salzburg. 1 h 20 m :-)
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Highly recommended.
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<p><a id="id1999-136-2">Monday 19th July Brian, <u>Julian H</u></a>
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<p>Aven climbing in Steinschlagschacht (136)
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<p><a id="id1999-136-2">1999-07-19 | 136 - Aven climbing in Steinschlagschacht | Brian, <u>Julian H</u></p>
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<p>Slight improvement on start time - underground by 2pm. Whizzed down to the
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bottom of the Theatre, stopping only to put another bolt in at the rebelay
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@@ -238,9 +240,7 @@ used usual climbing runners. Got tired soon after and went home.
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<p>T/U 7½ hours
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<p><a id="id1999-136-3">Tuesday 20th July 99 Brian, <u>Julian H</u></a>
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<p>More aven climbing in 136
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<p><a id="id1999-136-3">1999-07-20 | 136 - More aven climbing in 136 | Brian, <u>Julian H</u></p>
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<p>Whizzed back to the bottom (25 mins) to continue climbing up the same aven
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as yesterday. Spent some time getting kitted up, climbed up to where we'd
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<p>T/U 8½ hours
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<p><a id="id1999-136-5">Thursday 22nd July Brian, <u>Julian H</u></a>
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<p>More aven climbed planned - Footlights extension instead
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<p><a id="id1999-136-5">1999-07-22 | 136 - More aven climbed planned - Footlights extension instead | Brian, <u>Julian H</u></p>
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<p>Having been back to base camp to charge the drill battery, the plan was to
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go back to the aven and do some more bolting. Brian had the idea of going to
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<p align=right>T/U 10 hours
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<p><a id="id1999-136-6">1999-07-24 Julian H, Brian push Oatso and survey
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back out</a> - info from call-out book, no logbook write up [WebEd]
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<p><a id="id1999-136-6">1999-07-24 | Cave - Cave | Julian H, Brian</p>
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Push Oatso and survey back out</a> - info from call-out book, no logbook write up [WebEd]
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<p><a id="id1999-161-7">Sunday 25th July REGURGITATION <u>Mark</u>, Julian T</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-7">1999-07-25 | 161 - REGURGITATION | <u>Mark</u>, Julian T</p>
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<p>Went to Black Suspender (see separate report) with Earl & Heather and
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bimbled on to Mohr im Hend & the Regurgitation Chamber.
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@@ -342,7 +341,7 @@ bottom of the pitch (*) [Julian bridged down - difficult climb up]
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<p align=right>T/U 5½ hrs
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<p><a id="id1999-161-8">Sun 25 July - <u>Novice KH Trip</u> - Earl + <u>Heather</u></a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-8">1999-07-25 | 161 - Novice KH Trip | Earl + <u>Heather</u></p>
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<p>WOW! MY 1<sup>ST</sup> CAVING TRIP <u>EVER!</u> BECKA + JULIAN T TALKED ME
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INTO IT, BUT I MUST SAY I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED, ALTHOUGH I WILL SLEEP QUITE
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@@ -354,7 +353,7 @@ ABSOLUTELY SPLENDID TIME MUCKING ABOUT + LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT TIME!
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<p align=right>HEATHER A WILD TU 3 h
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<p><a id="id1999-161-6">Sat 24th July <u>Iceland</u> - <u>Julia</u> + Anthony</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-6">1999-07-24 | 161 - Iceland | <u>Julia</u> + Anthony</p>
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<p>First KH trip for me. In a nutshell: the cave was much nicer than I
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expected and the walk was a lot shitter. In through 161e, quick stomp to
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<p><center>TU 2½ hours</center>
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<p><a id="id1999-204-1"><strike>Mon 26th July</strike> Sun 25th July Surface
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stroll</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-204-1">1999-07-25 | Loser Plateau - Surface stroll | <u>Dunks</u>, Dour, Mick</p>
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<p><u>Dunks,</u> Dour, Mick
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<p>BECKA - digital logbook gave dates of 25th and 26th for this write-up</p>
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<p>Bimbled across the plateau and up into the col twixt Nied Augst Eck & HSK. Lots & lots of entrances here, many of which are horizontal - see notes for this trip. Main find, on the col itself, was a very large horizontal entrance near a prominent rock bridge.
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entrance.
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<p><a id="id1999-204-2">Mon 26th July Steinbrückehöhle</a>
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<p><u>Dunks,</u> Mick
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<p><a id="id1999-204-2">1999-07-26 | 204 - Steinbrückehöhle | <u>Dunks</u>, Mick</p>
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<p>Strolled up to cave found yesterday. Took 1½ hours from Top Camp,
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including time spent lost or looking at big ice stal in
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rope.
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<p><a id="id1999-136-7">1999.07.25 <u>Wookey,</u> Becka, Julian H, Brian</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-7">1999-07-25 | 136 - 136 | <u>Wookey</u>, Becka, Julian H, Brian</p>
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<p>1st trip for Wook - and what a success! Relatively prompt start saw all @
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136 by 9.30 ish & underground by 11.
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<p><a id="id1999-136-8">1999.07.25 Erin, Theo:</a> Oatso Simple tourist trip
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not written in log (added here by WebEditor from Call-out book - no T/U
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given)
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<p><a id="id1999-136-8">1999-07-25 | 136 - Oatso Simple tourist trip | Erin, Theo</p>
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Oatso Simple tourist trip not written in log (added here by WebEditor from Call-out book - no T/U given)
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<p><a id="id1999-136-9">1999.07.26 <u>Wookey,</u> Tony, Paul H, Erin, Phil U</a>
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<p>Carry on to check out the Overrun
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<p><a id="id1999-136-9">1999-07-26 | 136 - Carry on to check out the Overrun | <u>Wookey</u>, Tony, Paul H, Erin, Phil U</p>
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<p>All wizzed down 136, where Tony had first ever 'forgotten to shut Stop
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faceplate' experience on 2nd pitch. Improved eyehole rigging slightly. At
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<p align=right>T/U 9-10 hrs
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<p>27/7/99 Wook, Paul, Dunks, <u>Julian T</u> Hydrospeeding Hilde's River
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<p>1999-07-27 | Base Camp - Hydrospeeding Hilde's River | Wook, Paul, Dunks, <u>Julian T</u> </p>
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<p>Wook's body board & inner tube available. Walked up along river to
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check it out, and failed to do it properly. Wook & Paul were dropped in
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<p align=right>T/U 0 hrs 0 mins 0 secs.
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<p>1999/07/25 <u>Becka</u> + Brian
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<p>1999-07-25 | 1999-01 - Norden Alpen Schacht - Rigging the surface shaft that Brian found on 25/7/99 | <u>Becka</u> + Brian</p>
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<p>Rigging the surface shaft that Brian found on 25/7/99.
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<p><center>Provisionally named Norden Alpen Schacht.</center>
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<p><center>Surface shaft provisionally named Norden Alpen Schacht.</center>
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<p>Brian rigged the smaller of 2 holes down the obvious fault line (the
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lower, larger hole just above the snow field had an ice/snow plug at the
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<p align=right>T/U 5 hours
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<p><a id="id1999-136-10">27/7/99 <u>Becka,</u> Brian, Andy, John</a>
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<p>136 to Lost in Space
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<p><a id="id1999-136-10">1999-07-27 | 136 - 136 to Lost in Space | <u>Becka</u>, Brian, Andy A, John</p>
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<p>Andy + John went straight to where Wookey left off surveying at top end of
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the boulder chamber in Lost in Space. Andy freeclimbed over a boulder &
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<p><a id="id1999-161-9">26/7/99 Anthony, Julian, Earl</a>
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<p>Pushing <a href="../../smkridge/161/icelnd.htm#qC1996-161-25">96-25</a> in
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<p><a id="id1999-161-9">1999-07-26 | 161 - Pushing <a href="../../smkridge/161/icelnd.htm#qC1996-161-25">96-25</a> in
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<p>Took the drill off to Iceland anticipating that the pitch me and Julia had
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failed to descend 2 days earlier would end quickly so we could go off and
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<p><center>TU 7 hours</center>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-13">29/7/99 <u>Becka,</u> Julian T, Julian H Photo + push in 136</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-13">1999-07-29 | 136 - Photo + push in 136 | <u>Becka</u>, Julian T, Julian H </p>
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Erin. I derigged he rope off the Theatre (52m) + took it down Oatso. Took
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<p>1999.07.28 <u>Wook,</u> Earl, Mark S, Brian
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<li>Look for 92
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<p><a id="id1999-136-14">1999.07.29 More in <u>Chile</u>. <u>Wook</u>, Andy A</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-136-14">1999-07-29 | 136 - More in Chile | <u>Wook</u>, Andy A</p>
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<p>Co-incident with Becka, Julian, Julian trip
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<p>1999.07.30 <u>Wook,</u> Andy A
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<p>Useful surface things
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<p>Changed 99-01 tag to 'CUCC 201' (99-02 tag removed a few days earlier)
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<p>Met Tony, Paul & Becka near 136 checking out 97-08 and related holes. See survey book for details. Wook knocked ski-stick down hole just as we were
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packed to go so lined descent of 54' deep shaft was needed to retrieve it - mutter.
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<p align=right>T/U 30 mins
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<p><a id="id1999-136-11">28/7/99 <u>Julian H,</u> Erin</a>
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<p>Windy Bottom (136) / Pit of Damnation (136)
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<p><a id="id1999-136-11">1999-07-28 | 136 - Windy Bottom (136) / Pit of Damnation (136) | <u>Julian H</u>, Erin</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Underground about 11.30 am - damn hot as usual. Went straight to the
|
||||
undescended pitch into a wet chamber, with the intention of rigging it
|
||||
@@ -729,17 +710,21 @@ call-out so exited in a big hurry.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-12">1999-07-28 John, AndyA 136, push end towards
|
||||
Stellerweg</a> [info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-12">1999-07-28 | 136 - push end towards Stellerweg | John, Andy A </p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p> 136, push end towards Stellerweg</p>
|
||||
<p>[info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-3">1999-07-29 Mick and Duncan</a>
|
||||
[in call-out book as surface surveying
|
||||
to Steinbrückenhöhle - no write-up, WebEd.]
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-3">1999-07-29 | Loser Plateau - surface surveying to Steinbrückenhöhle | Mick and Duncan</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>[in call-out book as surface surveying to Steinbrückenhöhle - no write-up, WebEd.]
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-4"><font size=+2>STEINBRÜCKENHÖHLE GOES!<br>
|
||||
NEW CAVE !!</font></a>
|
||||
<p>1999-07-29 | 204 - Comment | <u>Duncan</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p><font size=+2>STEINBRÜCKENHÖHLE GOES!<br>
|
||||
NEW CAVE !!</font>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>70m deep<br>
|
||||
260m surveyed<br>
|
||||
@@ -749,7 +734,8 @@ still going . . . . .
|
||||
<p>Proper write-up soon. x x x dunks [there never was. WebEd.]
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>31/7/99 Helen and <u>Nick</u> go to Expo
|
||||
|
||||
<p>1999-07-31 | Journey - Helen and Nick go to Expo | Helen and <u>Nick</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>We drove Helen's shiny new car for a long time. The journey was almost
|
||||
completely uneventful apart from being stopped by the Pirmasens Police
|
||||
@@ -767,8 +753,7 @@ face and spouting complete bullshit. Went to bed happy in the knowledge
|
||||
that some aspects of Expo never change.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-1">1999.08.01</a> Go look in Eishöhle. <u>Wook,</u>
|
||||
AndyA, Becka, Paul, Mark S, Julian T, Simon
|
||||
<p>1999-08-01 | 40 - Go look in Eishöhle | <u>Wook</u>, Andy A, Becka, Paul, Mark S, Julian T, Simon</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went to look in eishöhle to see if we could find some extra ways on.
|
||||
Everyone gawped at Schneevulcanhalle for a bit, then we split into 3 teams:
|
||||
@@ -787,6 +772,10 @@ for tomorrow.
|
||||
|
||||
<p align=right><u>T/U 6 hours</u>
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>1999-08-01 | 40 - Eishöhle | <u>Mark S</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>[Date guessed at and heading added]
|
||||
|
||||
<p><u>Mark S</u> :- Photo trip somewhat abortive due to flash failure
|
||||
(results to be discovered -:) We took a few photos in Schneevulkanhalle and
|
||||
then went down the pitch into the passage which Julian, Becca + Paul had
|
||||
@@ -805,7 +794,7 @@ in place [Pitch not descended].
|
||||
<p>Out of time => back to SVH
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>31/7/99 - <u>Mark S</u> goes hunting for 155 "et al"
|
||||
<p>1999-07-31 | Loser Plateau - Mark S goes hunting for 155 "et al" | <u>Mark S</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Set off from carpark with intention of finding 155 "et al" at about
|
||||
midday.
|
||||
@@ -838,7 +827,7 @@ Weiße Warze
|
||||
<p>* if this needs clarifying, please email Mark
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-16">1999.07.31 Chile Again, 136. <u>Becka,</u> John + Simon</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-16">1999-07-31 | 136 - Chile Again | <u>Becka</u>, John + Simon</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Down to the Far End beyond Lost in Space. Sent John to rerig Andy A's
|
||||
pitch (bit of an unusual rig of a clown + missed the critical rebelay,
|
||||
@@ -861,14 +850,13 @@ with a few QM's until got to a narrow canyonny bit. Stopped the survey +
|
||||
looked up the passage, a sticky mud option plus two ways on, left goes
|
||||
slightly upwards in lovely passage with fossils in the roof. Down gets watery
|
||||
+ eventually narrowed down. Simon went in, got wet, + reported Darren-like
|
||||
passage, which opened up a bit + then choked bit probably a way on. headed on
|
||||
passage, which opened up a bit + then choked bit probably a way on. Headed on
|
||||
out fairly slowly.
|
||||
|
||||
<p>T/U Becka 12½ hours, Simon + John 13½ hours
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>1999.08.02 Surface survey + shaft bash around Nordalpenhöhle (99-01)
|
||||
<p align=right><u>Becka</u> + Brian
|
||||
<p>1999-08-02 | Loser Plateau - Surface survey + shaft bash around Nordalpenhöhle (1999-01)| <u>Becka</u> + Brian </p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Surveyed a leg from new cave tag for Nordalpenhöhle to end of
|
||||
previous surface + cave survey, then surface surveyed to the other shaft that
|
||||
@@ -891,8 +879,7 @@ I'd forgotten from last time. Took all the rope etc. back to the col.
|
||||
<p>T/U Becka 30 min, Brian 60 min
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>99.07.30 Surface bumbling around 136 etc.<br>
|
||||
<u>Becka,</u> Paul, Tony, Andrew, Wookey
|
||||
<p>1999-07-30 | Loser Plateau - Surface bumbling around 136 etc | <u>Becka</u>, Paul, Tony, Andrew, Wookey</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Various tidying up of surface survey stuff + ferrying bits of gear to
|
||||
Eishöhle (by Paul, Andy + Wookey) + lots of sitting around by 136 going
|
||||
@@ -901,7 +888,7 @@ found a through trip and I found some squitty holes. I went to the top of
|
||||
the Schwarzmooskogel + it was very pretty. Fester day.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-15">1999.07.30 Far End of 136 Phil U, <u>Earl M</u></a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-15">1999-07-30 | 136 - Far End of 136 | Phil U, <u>Earl M</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Underground about 11:45 am. Descended pitches to 'Lost in Space'.
|
||||
Through boulders to short climb - needs re-rigging to avoid poor rub. On to
|
||||
@@ -915,7 +902,7 @@ ropes out. Installed improved deviation using spit placed by Wookey.
|
||||
<p>T.U. 12 hours
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>1999.07.31 Surface exploration around VSK Erin L, <u>Earl M</u>
|
||||
<p>1999-07-31 | Loser Plateau - Surface exploration around VSK | Erin L, <u>Earl M</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Started from 136 with intention of looking for alternative entrance to
|
||||
136. Followed obvious rift on surface until we realised that this was not
|
||||
@@ -931,8 +918,7 @@ to neighbouring shaft, no obvious leads.
|
||||
<p>Wook investigating other shafts to the north of this (?)
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-147-1">1999.08.01 ReExplore and resurvey 147</a>
|
||||
Tony R, <u>Earl M</u>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-147-1">1999-08-01 | 147 - ReExplore and resurvey 147 |Tony R, <u>Earl M</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Started by exploring whole cave, to gain understanding of its structure.
|
||||
Main passage is a hading rift. After entrance, main passage continues
|
||||
@@ -950,9 +936,7 @@ then surveyed main passage.
|
||||
<p>TU 4 h
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-161-10">30/7/99 Survey "Frozen Turkey" (pitch off Iceland)</a>
|
||||
|
||||
<p align=right><u>Anthony</u> & Julia
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-161-10">1999-07-30 | 161 - Survey "Frozen Turkey" (pitch off Iceland) | <u>Anthony</u> & Julia</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Plan was to go to Iceland, survey the stuff we'd found earlier, push until
|
||||
we ran out of rope, and derig so we could relocate to somewhere more
|
||||
@@ -973,8 +957,7 @@ Julia's SRT kit inadvertantly, which didn't help matters.
|
||||
<p align=right>T/U 8½ hours
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-5">1/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
|
||||
<u>Anthony,</u> Duncan, Tina
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-5">1999-08-01 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle |<u>Anthony</u>, Duncan, Tina
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Looking for a nice easy trip the day after a major session in Bad Aussee.
|
||||
Carried mine and Tina's gear to Steinbrück between us, and went for a
|
||||
@@ -988,7 +971,7 @@ have time to descend.
|
||||
<p><center>T/U 4 hours</center>
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-17">1/8/99 136 Jon, Mike</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-17">1999-08-01 | 136 - 136 | Jon, Mike</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Returned to finish survey of day before, and look at new leads. Completed
|
||||
survey - most promising lead (trending SE) ends at infilled passage - may be
|
||||
@@ -1000,9 +983,7 @@ a squeeze leading to a sump and a very water-filled passage. Not recommended!
|
||||
<p><center>T/U: 13½ hrs</center>
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-18">4/8/99 136 Steinschlagschacht</a>
|
||||
|
||||
<p><u>Becka,</u> Jon, Earl, Brian
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-18">1999-08-04 | 136 - Steinschlagschacht | <u>Becka</u>, Jon, Earl, Brian</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Down to Lost in Space and looked at Left Route. Down Jon's 4m pitch and
|
||||
Earl + Phil's 10m pitch. Brian + I rigged to the 2 alternative bottoms
|
||||
@@ -1026,15 +1007,13 @@ out 60m rope and a tonne of hangers.<br clear=all>
|
||||
<p align=right>T/U 11 hours
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-4">5/8/99</a> Eishöhle
|
||||
|
||||
<p><u>Becka,</u> Paul, Wookey, Andy, Julian T
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-4">1999-08-05 | 40 - Eishöhle | <u>Becka</u>, Paul, Wookey, Andy A, Julian T</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Through the scrot to the traverses. Andy rerigged the climb before that
|
||||
and about 8 more bolts went into the traverse (we discovered we'd brought 3
|
||||
bolting kits so thought we'd better damn well use them). Surveyed from beyond
|
||||
traverses to pitchhead. Rigged pitch + traverse before it (to avoid the
|
||||
drips), down ~15m to another pitch. Paul + I decided we were supefluous to
|
||||
drips), down ~15m to another pitch. Paul + I decided we were superfluous to
|
||||
requirements + bummed off out, only an hour out from the pitch head + got to
|
||||
do most of the walk in the light, a <u>good</u> thing. The other three rigged
|
||||
down 'eiscream' as far as a tightish squeeze with the pitch series carrying
|
||||
@@ -1045,15 +1024,14 @@ a hard walk back with all the rope.
|
||||
Wookey, Andy + Julian 13½ hours
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>3/8/99 Looking for 193 <u>Nick</u>
|
||||
<p>1999-08-03 | Loser Plateau - Looking for 193 | <u>Nick</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Found in 1995 and never seen again. Had a wander round and found something
|
||||
that is roughly right and in roughly the right place. It'll do. Need to
|
||||
survey to it at some point.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-6">4/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
|
||||
Anthony Julia <u>Nick</u>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-6">1999-08-04 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | Anthony, Julia, <u>Nick</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went to survey lots of passage and push the pitch rigged on the previous
|
||||
trip. Team efficient consisted of Nick making up the numbers, Julia
|
||||
@@ -1062,7 +1040,7 @@ quite well. Pushed a couple of leads - the airy traverse over the hole in the
|
||||
floor was airy and led to not much more cave. Julia scrotted over a boulder
|
||||
choke and found some really tight horrible stuff. At this point, sense
|
||||
prevailed and we went to do the pitch, to find Duncan's calling card at the
|
||||
bottom - a Tunnocks Bar Wrapper. Mik and Duncan had gone down a parallel
|
||||
bottom - a Tunnocks Bar Wrapper. Mick and Duncan had gone down a parallel
|
||||
shaft and beaten us to it. More stomping passageway and phreatic tube-type
|
||||
stuff. Did a bit more surveying then got bored and came out. 1st pitch is
|
||||
jolly awkward. Good trip.
|
||||
@@ -1070,8 +1048,7 @@ jolly awkward. Good trip.
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 7 hrs
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-8">5/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
|
||||
Anthony Helen <u>Nick</u>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-8">1999-08-05 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | Anthony, Helen, <u>Nick</u></p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went back to push the phreatic tube. This was draughting and seemed
|
||||
promising. A hole in the floor was gardened and became a very small phreatic
|
||||
@@ -1094,8 +1071,7 @@ By this time we were cold, so headed out.
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 6 hrs
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-7">4/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
|
||||
<u>Dunks,</u> Animal
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-7">1999-08-04 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | <u>Dunks</u>, Mike TA</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went to descend 3m diameter shaft near entrance. Animal rig consisting of
|
||||
thread, boulder & 'tector got us down ~18m pitch into 6-9m wide phreas
|
||||
@@ -1119,9 +1095,11 @@ narrow (grade 'c' qms), but there is a pitch at the end (grade 'a' qm)
|
||||
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 6 hrs
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-3">1999.08.05</a> [Call-out book says 08.04 and 08.05 was another trip to the same place] <u>Wook,</u> Andy A, Simon
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-3">1999-08-04 | 40 - Eishöhle | <u>Wook</u>, Andy A, Simon</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p><center>Eishöhle</center>
|
||||
<p>[Call-out book says 08.04 and 08.05 was another trip to the same place] </p>
|
||||
<p>BECKA - Previous line from previous (anon) webeditor - I think the trip written up here is actually the 08.04 trip and the 08.05 trip was
|
||||
written up as Becka's 08.05 write up earlier - except for the extra comment in the next entry about rigging the traverse. </p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went back to end of 'Up, Up & away' to go down pitches. One bolt &
|
||||
crummy deviation got Simon to bottom. Unfortunately it was full of rocks
|
||||
@@ -1148,13 +1126,16 @@ hang.
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 11 hrs
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p>1999.08.06 (Addendum to Becka's write up)
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-4">1999-08-05 | 40 - Eishöhle | <u>Becka</u>, Paul, Wookey, Andy A, Julian T</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Logbook claims this is an addendum to 08.06 write-up but dates screwed up for this and previous entry so I've put it down as 08.05
|
||||
<p>1999-08-06 (Addendum to Becka's write up)
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Traverse was left rigged with 23m 1994 9mm, 1 old bend, 3 new bends,
|
||||
3 twists, 2 rings, 1 bollard.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-2">1999.08.02</a> Eishöhle <u>Wook,</u> Andy A, Paul
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-40-2">1999-08-02 | 40 - Eishöhle | <u>Wook</u>, Andy A, Paul</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Went to check out where draught goes at bottom of 'deviant alternative'
|
||||
[this bit is now called 'Delaying Tactics' - 'Deviant Alternative' now refers
|
||||
@@ -1176,7 +1157,7 @@ possibly the same thing). Did hurried survey out to get back for dinner.
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 6
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-21">1999.08.07 136 <u>Becka,</u> Neil + Jon</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-21">1999-08-07 | 136 - 136 | <u>Becka</u>, Neil + Jon</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Under by 10.45, pootled beyond Lost in Space. Neil rerigged (another bolt)
|
||||
Andy's pitch to give 2 pitchhead bolts . . . but it still rubs + still has
|
||||
@@ -1213,7 +1194,7 @@ Got out steadily + <u>fantastic</u> stars, with a couple shooting.
|
||||
<p>NOTE - Passage continues for 50m streamway to sump <u>TOTALITY</u>
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-19"><u>1999.08.05 Jon,</u> Neil, Tanya, Simon 136</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-19">1999-08-05 | 136 - 136 | <u>Jon</u>, Neil, Tanya, Simon</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>- Previous to above trip, went down through 'Lost in Space' and 'Steady
|
||||
Aim' pitch down to 'CarpetWorld', where Neil did a cracking job of rigging
|
||||
@@ -1228,18 +1209,19 @@ last pitch up...
|
||||
<p><center>T/U 14 hours</center>
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-9">1999-08-05 Erin and Duncan</a> in call-out book as
|
||||
intending to descend Steinbrückenhöhle - not clear if this trip
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-9">1999-08-05 | 204 - Unclear if trip occurred | Erin and Duncan</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>In call-out book as intending to descend Steinbrückenhöhle - not clear if this trip
|
||||
took place, no write-up in logbook, WebEd.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-10">1999-08-07 Mike, Tina and Earl</a> in call-out book
|
||||
as intending to descend Steinbrückenhöhle same day as Helen, Nicka
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-10">1999-08-07 | 204 - Unclear if trip occurred | Mike, Tina and Earl</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p> In call-out book as intending to descend Steinbrückenhöhle same day as Helen, Nicka
|
||||
and Brian - not clear if this trip took place, no write-up in logbook, WebEd.
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-11">7/8/99 <u>Helen,</u> Nick, Brian
|
||||
Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-11">1999-08-07 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | <u>Helen</u>, Nick, Brian</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>Pushing lead from Millennium Dome (it <u>didn't</u> need another
|
||||
re-belay), Nick scrotted thru the boulder choke on LHS, which had a gentle
|
||||
@@ -1254,7 +1236,7 @@ came out, no survey due to lack of survey gear at Top Camp.
|
||||
<p align=right>TU 6 hrs
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-12">8/8/99 Nick, Brian, Anthony</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-204-12">1999-08-08 | 204 - 204 | Nick, Brian, Anthony</a>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>From the makers of 'Interview Blues', we proudly present a major new
|
||||
motion "Scrotty Rift Pitch Series II - This time its even more pointless"
|
||||
@@ -1279,8 +1261,7 @@ which is small, but draughts (QM B).
|
||||
Brian 8½
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-23">9/8/99 <u>Becka,</u> Jon, Neil</a>
|
||||
<p>136 - Push near Runny Bottom
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-23">1999-08-09 | 136 - Push near Runny Bottom | <u>Becka</u>, Jon, Neil</p>
|
||||
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<p>An hour down to the end of Oatso, pretty damn familiar territory by now.
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Down Steady Aim and the CM arrow climb under boulders to the aven climb I'd
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@@ -1305,8 +1286,9 @@ went home (derigging Steady Aim & Andy's pitches).
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<p>T/U 11½ hours
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<p><a id="id1999-161-11">10/8/99 Becka, <u>Julian T</u></a><br>
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161D - Pushing Regurgitation (almost) T/U 6 hours
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<p><a id="id1999-161-11">1999-08-10 | 161 - 161D - Pushing Regurgitation (almost) | Becka, <u>Julian T</u></p>
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<p> T/U 6 hours
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<p>Last trip to fetch bolting kit & rope left behind on noddy trip 3
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weeks ago that we (expo) never got back to. Scarface was well out of favour
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@@ -1354,14 +1336,14 @@ macho men and no feminine voice of reason. Bit tedious to fetch in the
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morning. Would have preferred a lie in with a slightly more broken body.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-204-14">1999-08-09 Erin and Earl</a> descended
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Steinbrückenhöhle on a photographic trip (date from call-out book).
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<p><a id="id1999-204-14">1999-08-09 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | Erin and Earl</p>
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<p>Erin and Earl descended Steinbrückenhöhle on a photographic trip (date from call-out book).
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We know this trip occurred, because the photos are on the site, but there is
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no log-book write-up.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-204-15">10/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
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<u>Nick,</u> Anthony, Helen, Julia
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<p><a id="id1999-204-15">1999-08-10 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | <u>Nick</u>, Anthony, Helen, Julia</p>
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<p>Derigging trip - first three pitches were left to do. Plus some extra
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tackle sacks. We came, we went down, we came back up again with our friends.
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@@ -1372,8 +1354,7 @@ Nick & Anthony 2 hrs
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<p>Saw a salamander on the way to the cave
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-204-16">11/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
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<u>Duncan,</u> Animal
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<p><a id="id1999-204-16">1999-08-11 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | <u>Duncan</u>, Mike TA</p>
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<p>Pushing down the Ariston (& on & on ...) series.
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Basically, it goes. Now over 200m deep, 3 qms at the bottom, one of which is
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@@ -1384,8 +1365,9 @@ diameter hailstones all over the place.
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<p align=right>TU 10½
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-204-13">??/8/99 Steinbrückenhöhle</a>
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<u>Duncan,</u> Julia [1999-08-08 from call-out book]
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<p><a id="id1999-204-13">1999-08-08 | 204 - Steinbrückenhöhle | <u>Duncan</u>, Julia</p>
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<p>??/8/99 given in digital log book but [1999-08-08 from call-out book]
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<p>Bimble round ticking off QMs in the top phreatic stuff. Found a new qm at
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the foot of the 2nd pitch. Land on the snow & shin up about 2m - oh look,
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@@ -1394,7 +1376,7 @@ there's a pitch. Perhaps one day we'll have some rope. . . .
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<p align=right>TU 5
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-161-2">Sunday 18th July, Triassic Park - Latzio. <u>Erin,</u> Theo, John P</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-2">1999-07-18 | 161 - Triassic Park - Latzio | <u>Erin</u>, Theo, John P</p>
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<p>The 3 of us headed back down T.P. to the undocumented q.m. hole in the
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floor where we'd previously hammered in a few spits. I rigged + dropped the
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@@ -1410,7 +1392,7 @@ to call it a day.
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<p>T.U.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-161-3">Monday 19th July Triassic Park - Scorchio. <u>Erin,</u> Theo, John P</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-3">1999-07-19 | 161 - Triassic Park - Scorchio | <u>Erin</u>, Theo, John P</p>
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<p>On the advice of old lags, I decided to give up on hammering through the
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tight bit of Latzio, so Theo & I surveyed it and declared it finished.
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@@ -1422,7 +1404,7 @@ about 3 rub points, and a deviation rigged off a pebble.
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<p>T.U.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-161-4">Tuesday 20th July Triassic Park - Scorchio. <u>Erin,</u> Theo, John P</a>
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<p><a id="id1999-161-4">1999-07-20 | 161 - Triassic Park - Scorchio | <u>Erin</u>, Theo, John P</p>
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<p>It was John P's last day on expo, so we decided to finish off Scorchio,
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which he'd found on Saturday by looking through a window on the left side of
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@@ -1433,8 +1415,9 @@ too tight, so we all went down to base camp + drank some beer.
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<p>T.U.
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-161-5">[24th - from call-out book] July</a><br>
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Triassic Park - Scorchio. <u>Erin,</u> Theo
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<p><a id="id1999-161-5">1999-07-24 | 161 - Triassic Park - Scorchio | <u>Erin</u>, Theo</p>
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<p>Date of [24th - from call-out book]
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<p>After being trapped in our tent for 3 days due to rain, we headed back to
|
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T.P. with relief and the desire to move onto something more interesting. I
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@@ -1457,7 +1440,9 @@ the 1995 survey book suggests this is
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<a href="../../smkridge/161/offtri.htm#qC1995-161-43">C1995-161-43</a>]
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<hr />
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<p><a id="id1999-136-20">Andy A, Simon F [must be 1999.08.07, Webeditor]</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-20">1999-08-07 | 136 - 139 to 136 and surface surveyed 147 | Andy A, Simon F</p>
|
||||
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||||
<p>Date given as "[must be 1999.08.07, Webeditor]"
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<p>Went to 136 to push the far end. Got to cave entrance & didn't feel
|
||||
fit enough for the trip. Still managed to spend 6 hrs underground buggering
|
||||
@@ -1472,7 +1457,9 @@ survey reference and the implication that this is an underground connection
|
||||
is disinformational]
|
||||
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<hr />
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||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-22">Andy A, Simon F [1999.08.08 from survey data, Webeditor]</a>
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-22">1999-08-08 | 136 - 136 | Andy A, Simon F</p>
|
||||
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||||
<p>Date given as "[1999.08.08 from survey data, Webeditor]"
|
||||
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||||
<p>Return to 136 to push far end. This time made it down to far end. Intent
|
||||
on climbing the Avens Becka had described as a possible lead. This turned out
|
||||
@@ -1504,18 +1491,21 @@ of the hole, at the top of the rift. Worth a look anyway.
|
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|
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<p><center>T/U 11 hrs</center>
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||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-24">1999-08-09 | 136 - derigging in 136 | Neil, Brian </a></p>
|
||||
[info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-25">1999-08-10 | 136 - derigging in 136 | Duncan, Andy A, Simon, John, Earl </p>
|
||||
|
||||
Derigging in 136 [info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
|
||||
<hr />
|
||||
<p> ... and that seems to be it. No write up of derigging trips, nor of a
|
||||
photographic trip in 204 (Erin and Earl) so the logbook seems to be an
|
||||
incomplete record, Webeditor.
|
||||
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-24">1999-08-09 Neil, Brian, derigging in 136</a>
|
||||
[info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
|
||||
<p><a id="id1999-136-25">1999-08-10 Duncan, AndyA, Simon, John, Earl,
|
||||
derigging in 136</a> [info from call-out book, no logbook write-up, WebEd]
|
||||
|
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<hr />
|
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<!-- LINKS -->
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<p><ul>
|
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<li>1999 Expedition info:
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