From 8ce1d031455a31b1270444efdcce455fff303238 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Wookey Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:07:57 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Add writeup of not-finding-wk4 trip. --- pending/2015/Katasterable | 5 ++-- years/2015/logbook.html | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/pending/2015/Katasterable b/pending/2015/Katasterable index d2b70b784..76c249c18 100644 --- a/pending/2015/Katasterable +++ b/pending/2015/Katasterable @@ -1,6 +1,8 @@ OK, executive summary is that theshortlist of things that we ought to be able to feed to Robert is: +B4 Has tag, survey (ol) and photo (crofton) +1996-WK-11 explored, surveyd, tagged, photoed 2002-AD-03 BergKäseHöhle. Descended and surveyed 2015. wallet 2015#55 Tagged 2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data 2004-01 76 bivi cave - PG: lived in but no survey !! Seem to have svx refer wallet 2006#6 which has a passable plan and elev @@ -46,7 +48,6 @@ LA40 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the 1992-X-01 allegedly refindable, but unmarked and undescended 1996-01 needs survey - coords are pre-SA and believed hopelessly wrong 1996-WK-4 unexplored but coords -1996-WK-11 exploration incomplete (probably chokes), needs survey 1996-WK-12 needs survey, needs retag (2005-89 as no letters in tag kit) 1996-X-01 documented as under 3m long - so should not need an Austrian number 1996-05 apparently a non-CUCC discovery but no evidence of exploration - should be done ! @@ -78,7 +79,7 @@ LA40 missing, unsurveyed, untagged, but given a lat/long probably from the 2002-AD-04 PG: needs survey. Seem to have 2012 survey data 2002-OB-01 needs survey, tag and more push 2002-W-01 PG says needs survey, but location says "see sketch in survey notes" -2002-W-02 PG: needs survey and tag. Seem to have 2002 svx data +2002-W-02 PG: needs survey and tag. Has 2002 svx data and tag 2002-X-09 unmarked and undescended 2002-X-09b unmarked - just a rock shelter, cannot need a kataster number 2002-X-15 unmarked, needs survey and better description if over 10m diff --git a/years/2015/logbook.html b/years/2015/logbook.html index 2877b3662..f81a2bd59 100644 --- a/years/2015/logbook.html +++ b/years/2015/logbook.html @@ -664,7 +664,7 @@ immediately before Pushing The Envelope squeeze.

2015-08-09
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Wookey, Philip Balister, Sandy
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Wookey, Philip Balister, Sandy Knapp
Document remaining wook-caves (wk12, wk11)

Wook foolishly recorded some entrances whilst wandering in the 1990s, before realising that it's @@ -704,6 +704,54 @@ way on is slightly too small for a person, certainly one in shorts+t-shirt, but

Still, objective of making wk11 katasterable achieved, and thinks muchly to Phil for helping carry the crap.

T/U: Wook: 30mins
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2015-08-11
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Wookey, Sam Wenham
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Search for remaining wook-cave (wk4)
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Only one cave from the 1995/6 wanderings left:wk4, found when attempting to walk down from 161d to +the Stogerweg in 1995 to see if it was a better route than back over the col (it wasn't).

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Wook and Sam set off at an unheard-of early 7am partly to get Luke up the hill in time to do +something before derigging, and to avoid the worst of the heat of the day, at least to start +with. As we walked past the Bla-Alm turnoff we were ahiled from up the hill, by ChrisD, Anthony, +Elliot and Michael who wanted to leave rope in our car. Key arrangments were made, updates given and +we carried on our way.

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Not hard to follow the Eishöhle path, passing numerous caches of ARGE gear along the way (142, +the nipple, Eishöhle 40a). 216 has more cold air than I remember and 40h is transformed. The crawl +is now a 4-5m-high passage with the old bolts stranded in the ceiling - soon you won't need any ice +gear at all to get in. It was very nice to sit in the fridge as huge amounts of cold air spilled out +of the entrance, but soon enough we had to get on with the task at hand.

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Found it remarkably easy to get down the hill about 100m back from 216, where there is a path +down past 40d. The tag on this entrance is a rather long way from the cave now, presumably due to +shrinking snowfield at the entrance. Carrying on down here got us to a nice traverse level below the +main cliff here, into a large grassy amphitheatre - very nice spot. This was only 50m from pwk4, but +this GPS point was before Selective Availabilty was turned off, so somewhat unreliable, potentially +compounded by the steep hilside. The actual point was at the edge of the grassy area, which wasn't +right, as it was on a shelf, with bunde either side, and a notable rectangular hole, hard to + traverse past, and directly above the hochlapf sattel.

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The terrain South of the grassy amphitheatre seemed about right, but it's quite heavily +bunded. The cave should be on a nice easy route, as it was found when taking the easiest route down +the hill, but 3 hours of wandering round, bashing a lot of bunde, and trying to find every possible +traverse level, found no sign of the bloody hole. It just made us both very hot, scratched, and +tired. I now have a tracklog of a large number of places that this cave is not.

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Surprised to find a red-paint marked path here (which leads to the stogerweg), and an arrow on +the stogerweg pointing to a slightly higher path in the same area. Aparently more people come this +way than you might think (hunters?).

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Eventually we gave up, having given it our best shot, and trogged back along the stogerweg (which +is actually very easy to get to from this area using the paths. Took best part of 2hours to walk back to the carpark. We were really quite tired.

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Reading the logbook entry for the original discovery, I wonder if it is perhaps lower down?

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So, that was a very frustrating day. We can move this cave to the 'mostly lost' pile.

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T/U: 2 mins in 216