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<a name="Current_discussion"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline">Current discussion</span></h2>
<a name="What_to_buy_in_UK"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline">What to buy in UK</span></h3>
<p><i>This is from Djuke's email sent 29 Jun.</i>
</p><p><br />
Curry paste --&gt; am lost as to how much
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<dl><dd>I think 2 of the giant Patak's jars is what we normally go for. I was in possession of 1 of these jars, which I've left in the expo food cabinet. It is about 70% full. Since it's a relatively small expo, I would go for one more. The one I put in the t-store is Tandoori, so get something else- Rogon Josh perhaps. -<a href="/caving/wiki/User:Aaron" title="User:Aaron">Aaron</a>
<dl><dd>I think 2 of the giant Patak's jars is what we normally go for. I was in possession of 1 of these jars, which I've left in the expo food cabinet. It is about 70% full. Since it's a relatively small expo, I would go for one more. The one I put in the t-store is Tandoori, so get something else- Rogon Josh perhaps. -Aaron</a>
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<p>Oatso --&gt; 20 each (i.e. on avg people do 50% caving, if avg person stays 3
weeks that's 10 days, with 2 oatso's per morning) * 20 people = 400 and we
probably have some left(?)
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<dl><dd>I put a bunch of Oatso in the expo food cabinet a few days ago (before the t-store session that edvin organized) which came from Ollie Betts. If I had to guess, I would say 20 packets, some very nice flavours. -<a href="/caving/wiki/User:Aaron" title="User:Aaron">Aaron</a> 21:38, 29 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd>I put a bunch of Oatso in the expo food cabinet a few days ago (before the t-store session that edvin organized) which came from Ollie Betts. If I had to guess, I would say 20 packets, some very nice flavours. -Aaron</a> 21:38, 29 June 2008 (BST)
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<p>Peanut butter --&gt; 15 pots (or 2 large ones)?
</p><p>1-2 serving green dragon type Instant FLAVOURED noodles --&gt; 350?
</p><p>Powdered cheese sauce?
</p><p>Can you get tubs of right type of hot choc out in Austria?
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<dl><dd>By "right type" I think we mean that it only needs water rather than milk- i.e. already has powdered milk in it. -<a href="/caving/wiki/User:Aaron" title="User:Aaron">Aaron</a> 21:39, 29 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd>By "right type" I think we mean that it only needs water rather than milk- i.e. already has powdered milk in it. - Aaron</a> 21:39, 29 June 2008 (BST)
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<p>We have some dried veg do we need to get more?
</p><p>The Tortellini appears to be only available from 1 supermarket (according
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tortellini for topcamp meals.
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<a name="Other_discussion"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline">Other discussion</span></h3>
<p>Small update: I currently have Olly Betts'; cash and carry card (as it's not much use in New Zealand!).<a href="/caving/wiki/User:Ed259" title="User:Ed259">Edvin</a>
</p><p>Just got a propper set of scales in a sale, one with a big bucket on top to allow all the stuff for a loaf to be measured in one go. This will make making bread much less messy. --<a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:Frank&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Frank (not yet written)">Frank</a> 13:12, 27 June 2008 (BST)
<p>Small update: I currently have Olly Betts'; cash and carry card (as it's not much use in New Zealand!). Edvin</a>
</p><p>Just got a propper set of scales in a sale, one with a big bucket on top to allow all the stuff for a loaf to be measured in one go. This will make making bread much less messy. --Frank</a> 13:12, 27 June 2008 (BST)
Ps is the bread maker OK, I can't remember????
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</p><p>There are several categories, and sometimes it makes sense to spread the work over several people:
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<ol><li> Top camp food
<ol><li> Ready mixed <a href="http://expo.survex.com/years/2004/recipes.html" class="external text" title="http://expo.survex.com/years/2004/recipes.html" rel="nofollow">dinners</a> based around rice/pasta/TVP &amp; dried vegetables
<ol><li> Ready mixed <a href="../2004/recipes.html" class="external text" title="2004/recipes.html" rel="nofollow">dinners</a> based around rice/pasta/TVP &amp; dried vegetables
</li><li> Breakfast supplies such as Oatso simple, tea, musli
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</li><li> Cave food
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<p>On average people spent 44% of the nights at Top Camp (though this ranged from 24% to 58%).
</p><p>--<a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:Frank&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Frank (not yet written)">Frank</a> 20:12, 2 June 2008 (BST)=Some helpful facts=
</p><p>-- Frank</a> 20:12, 2 June 2008 (BST)=Some helpful facts=
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<ul><li> There is a cash &amp; carry in Salzburg. Hilde might lend you her customer card (needed to use the shop?).
</li><li> Austrian musli is sold in small, expensive packets in local shops. In the past we have cut cheap Tesco Value Musli with nicer Tesco own brand, but does it make sense to cart such bulky stuff across Europe?
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<dl><dd><dl><dd>it is pretty cheap in Hofer (the Austrian Aldi) - there is one in Bad Ischl. If you do get it in the UK, Asda Smart Price muesli seems better than Tesco Smart Price. <a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:JennyB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JennyB (not yet written)">JennyB</a> 03:11, 27 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd><dl><dd>it is pretty cheap in Hofer (the Austrian Aldi) - there is one in Bad Ischl. If you do get it in the UK, Asda Smart Price muesli seems better than Tesco Smart Price. JennyB</a> 03:11, 27 June 2008 (BST)
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<ul><li> Booker cash &amp; carry (branches all over the UK, including Cambridge) will let you shop with them (thought they are not open to the public as an ordinary shop) but:
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</li><li> and most importantly: the essential tubs of dried cheese sauce, dried curry sauce and bolognaise sauce
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</li><li> Tesco/Lidl own-brand chocolate bars are better value than Booker Mars bars. Similarly, Tesco Value Oats for Flapjack are better value than Booker's Quaker oats.
</li><li> When buying drinking chocolate make sure it's the just add water Cadburys stuff. The add milk stuff is somewhat impratical at top camp, and it dosent work with dried milk.--<a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:Frank&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Frank (not yet written)">Frank</a> 20:12, 2 June 2008 (BST)
</li><li> When buying drinking chocolate make sure it's the just add water Cadburys stuff. The add milk stuff is somewhat impratical at top camp, and it dosent work with dried milk.-- Frank</a> 20:12, 2 June 2008 (BST)
</li><li> Have a quick scan of the price per Kg in Tesco, some things arn't cheaper when VAT is added on, although they do come in bigger packets and it's convinent.
</li><li> You'll probably need transport!
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<p>Pressed and smoothed into two A4 trays lined with baking parchment, and baked at 150 degrees Centigrade in a fan oven (175 if no fan?) until (approximately) just the edges and rasins turn darker (i.e. about the time it takes to mix the next batch...)
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<dl><dd>Either the 150 degrees is a typo, or our oven is a lot more pathetic than Earl's (which is definitely possible). The last two years we did the flapjack at about Gas mark 7, which is roughly 220 degrees C. Otherwise they took about twice as long. <a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:JennyB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JennyB (not yet written)">JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd>Either the 150 degrees is a typo, or our oven is a lot more pathetic than Earl's (which is definitely possible). The last two years we did the flapjack at about Gas mark 7, which is roughly 220 degrees C. Otherwise they took about twice as long. JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
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<dl><dd><dl><dd>Some tips from an email from Earl.....
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<dl><dd>We found that dark brown sugar &amp; golden syrup is almost identical to white sugar &amp; a treacle/syrup mix. The later is quite a bit cheaper. <a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:JennyB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JennyB (not yet written)">JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd>We found that dark brown sugar &amp; golden syrup is almost identical to white sugar &amp; a treacle/syrup mix. The later is quite a bit cheaper. JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
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<dl><dd>If you don't have a huge saucepan a wok works well too. <a href="/caving/wiki/index.php?title=User:JennyB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JennyB (not yet written)">JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
<dl><dd>If you don't have a huge saucepan a wok works well too. JennyB</a> 03:08, 27 June 2008 (BST)
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<a name="Food_in_the_tackle_store"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline">Food in the tackle store</span></h3>
<p>Mostly out of date, but probably ok&nbsp;:)
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