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<h1 align="center">1623/76 Question Mark List</h1>
<p>This is a list of probable leads collated from log book writeups, published
accounts, and surveys. The depths are approximate, and often vary between
sources:</p>
<dl>
<dt>1977-76-01</dt>
<dd>Un-descended pitch from passage behind the rock bridge in
Plugged Shaft. -40m [level of phreatic stuff in other places]</dd>
<dt>1977-76-02</dt>
<dd>Un-descended pitch (p15m?) below p32m in Keg Series. -135m</dd>
<dt>1977-76-03</dt>
<dd>Un-descended pitch (p15m?), in passage doubling back from The
Tap Room. -150m</dd>
<dt>1977-76-04</dt>
<dd>Passage continuing beyond 1977-76-03. -150m</dd>
<dt>1977-76-05</dt>
<dd>Rift passage continuing from The Tap Room (beyond pitch series).
-155m</dd>
<dt>1978-76-01</dt>
<dd>Passage leading off from balcony at base of p48m in The Hall of
the Green King. -250m
[level of phreatic stuff in other places]</dd>
<dt>1978-76-02</dt>
<dd>Upstream vadose inlet(s?) below The Hall of the Green King, and
before The Fiesta Run. -260m ish</dd>
<dt>1979-76-01</dt>
<dd>Un-descended pitch (p15m?), reached by dry route from below The
Fiesta Run. -380m</dd>
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<h1 align="center">Why Eislufth&ouml;hle?</h1>
<p>
This shows the caves in the area with 4 additional fake vertical shafts
indicating the entrance locations and depths of (from left to right)
<a href="../../plateau/97.htm">97 (Schneewindschacht)</a>,
<a href="../../plateau/76.htm">76 (Eislufth&ouml;hle)</a>
<a href="../../plateau/107.htm">107 (Gemsh&ouml;hle)</a>, and
<a href="../../plateau/82.htm">82 (Br&auml;uningh&ouml;hle)</a>:
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<img src="http://www.survex.com/~olly/eisluftdepth.png">
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<small><a href="http://www.survex.com/~olly/all.3d">[Download 3d file of this]</a></small>
<p>76 is striking for going notably deeper (in absolute terms) than anything
else apart from the lower reaches of Stellerweg.
</p>
<p>The caves under the <a href="../smkridge/">Schwarzmooskogel ridge</a>
show definite levels of major horizontal phreatic development. These can be
seen to some extent in the screenshot above, but they're clearer if you play
around with the survey in Aven. The Austrian cavers tell us that corresponding
phreatic levels are seen in many caves all over the surrounding parts of
Austria, so there are good reasons to think they're not a phenomenon only
associated with this ridge.
</p>
<p>These levels haven't been observed so clearly in the caves out under the
<a href="../plateau/">Loser Augst-Eck plateau</a> subarea, but Tony Malcolm
<a href="../years/1981/tmelev.htm">noted signs of them</a>. Exploration in
the early years of CUCC in Austria followed a pattern of "drop pitches
to a sump or other conclusion, derig, try another entrance" - the major
horizontal levels under the ridge were mostly found much more recently
once we got a bit more thorough.
</p>
<p>A particularly notable feature of a number of the caves in this area
is strong outward draughts (in Summer at any rate). The very names of
the caves indicate this: Eislufth&ouml;hle is "Ice air cave" or "Ice breath
cave", while Schneewindschacht is "Snow wind shaft". 99 is noted as having
a "strong draught".
</p>
<p>Wildly hypothesising for a moment, this might indicate air coming from
higher entrances, in the same way that the strongly draughting entrances on the
East side of the Schwarzmooskogel ridge are most likely due to airflow through
from the higher entrances of <a
href="../../smkridge/161/top.htm">Kaninchenh&ouml;hle</a> and <a
href="../../smkridge/161/136.htm">Steinschlagschacht</a>. It would be very
interesting if there was significant horizontal development linking some of
the caves under the plateau with those under the ridge!
</p>
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<h2>Principal Goals for 2004</h2> <h2>Principal Goals for 2004</h2>
<h3>Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle</h3>
<ul> <ul>
<li />The deepest point in Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle is in the tight and <li />The deepest point in Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle is in the tight and
arduous stream passage of Razordance, which appears to continue downwards arduous stream passage of Razordance, which appears to continue downwards
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direction, towards the nearest points of Kaninchenh&ouml;hle, so there is a direction, towards the nearest points of Kaninchenh&ouml;hle, so there is a
possiblity of a connection, although the present gradient of the passage is possiblity of a connection, although the present gradient of the passage is
sufficiently steep that it seems likely to pass right underneath. <!-- sufficiently steep that it seems likely to pass right underneath. <!--
Personnel: Dour, Mark, Dave, ?Olly, ?Frank --> Personnel: Dour, Mark, Dave, ?OllyM, ?Frank -->
<li />The main find of last summer was a new series of horizontal passages in <li />The main find of last summer was a new series of horizontal passages in
the north-west of Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle, known as 'Rhino Rift'. There was the north-west of Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle, known as 'Rhino Rift'. There was
@@ -70,7 +72,57 @@ explore in this area. <!-- Personnel: Principally Martin + Earl. I'm also
interested (Dave) --> interested (Dave) -->
<li />There are a number of other leads in Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle which might merit exploration, including an undescended pitch (QM 01-38A) in the Chocolate Salty Balls area, known as 'The Eleven Second Rattle' after the sound heard on dropping rocks down it; another undescended pitch (01-68A) at the end of the Merry F***ing Christmas crawl; and many others (cf. the Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle <a href="../../smkridge/204/qm.html">question mark list</a>). <li />There are a number of other leads in Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle which might merit exploration, including an undescended pitch (QM 01-38A) in the Chocolate Salty Balls area, known as 'The Eleven Second Rattle' after the sound heard on dropping rocks down it; another undescended pitch (01-68A) at the end of the Merry F***ing Christmas crawl; and many others (cf. the Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle <a href="../../smkridge/204/qm.html">question mark list</a>).
</ul>
<h3>Eislufth&ouml;hle (1623/76)</h3>
<a href="../../plateau/76.html">Eislufth&ouml;hle</a> was found on the second
ever CUCC expedition to the Loser area in 1977. That year the explorers got
to -150m with the way on wide open. They pushed again in 1978, and in 1979
finally reached a sump at approximately -506m. They derigged and nobody has
been back in the intervening quarter of a century. The area is
<a href="76why.html">interesting</a>, so it's about time we had another
look.
<ul>
<li />The 76 description says "There are a number of going leads in this cave
and you're welcome to them". We've <a href="76qms.html">collated 8 of them</a>
from information in the log book writeups, published accounts, and surveys.
All but one of these are in Hall of the Green King (-260m) or above - the
proposal is to allocate enough tackle to 76 to enable us to get to this level.
Judging from CUCC's experience reexploring
<a href="../../smkridge/161/136.htm">Steinschlagschacht</a> and Arge's
looking at old CUCC finds in the Stellerweg area, there are likely to also
be a number of undocumented or previously unnoticed leads.
<li />Eislufth&ouml;hle was surveyed to about -150m in 1976 (Waddington: <i>"I
would not claim more than grade 2, in the light of subsequent surveying
experience"</i>). The survey below -150m is almost entirely based on rope
and ladder lengths. Perhaps unsuprisingly, the published surveys are
missing horizontal passages in places where they're described in write-ups!
None of the original data survives anyway, so we should try to produce a decent
survey of the known cave as well as mapping new finds.
<li /><a href="../../plateau/99.htm">99</a> is a strongly draughting entrance
about 35m from 76 which was explored to a <i>"ledge with a 1m diameter shaft
dropping in a corkscrew at least 20m."</i> (at perhaps -40m).
<a href="../../years/1979/report.htm#89">Contemporary reports</a> suggest
<i>"It is not clear how [99] relates to 106, but if it does come into 106 then
it must do so fairly far down."</i> (106 was another number allocated to 76
initially).
<li />If we exhaust 76, <a href="../../plateau/97.htm">Schneewindschacht</a>
is in the same area. Waddington: <i>"if you want a cave with some real
potential to go in a big way, I'd suggest a return to 97 - Schneewindschacht.
This has a wide open phreatic tunnel in it, which could be easily gained with
the aid of a rock drill. A rock drill might also be of use in making the Nun's
C*nt a bit more amenable"</i>.
</ul>
<h3>Miscellaneous</h3>
<ul>
<li />One of the most interesting of the many smaller caves in the area near <li />One of the most interesting of the many smaller caves in the area near
Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle is Hauchh&ouml;hle, a prominent entrance near the Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle is Hauchh&ouml;hle, a prominent entrance near the
walk-in route which draughts very strongly, suggesting that the cave behind is walk-in route which draughts very strongly, suggesting that the cave behind is
@@ -85,11 +137,13 @@ cave entrances in this area, which lies between the known caves in CUCC's area
(1623) and the boundary with the adjacent area 1626. <!-- Personnel: Brian, (1623) and the boundary with the adjacent area 1626. <!-- Personnel: Brian,
Tony, other people when feeling slack --> Tony, other people when feeling slack -->
<!-- Not this year...
<li />Some suggestions have been made for a return to Kaninchenh&ouml;hle, <li />Some suggestions have been made for a return to Kaninchenh&ouml;hle,
which was the primary site of exploration by CUCC for most of the 1990s. There which was the primary site of exploration by CUCC for most of the 1990s. There
are a number of open leads in the Far North, the area closest to are a number of open leads in the Far North, the area closest to
Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle; it is not entirely inconceivable that one of these Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle; it is not entirely inconceivable that one of these
may lead to a connection between the two, although it seems unlikely. may lead to a connection between the two, although it seems unlikely.
-->
<!-- Personnel: This is Wookey's pet project --> <!-- Personnel: This is Wookey's pet project -->
<li />There is also much documentation and surveying work to be done, which <li />There is also much documentation and surveying work to be done, which
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<dt>Expedition Leader:</dt><dd>Olly Madge (Caius)</dd> <dt>Expedition Leader:</dt><dd>Olly Madge (Caius)</dd>
<dt>Treasurer:</dt><dd>David Loeffler (Trinity)</dd> <dt>Treasurer:</dt><dd>David Loeffler (Trinity)</dd>
<dt>Transport Organiser:</dt><dd>Mark Shinwell (Queens')</dd> <dt>Transport Organiser:</dt><dd>Mark Shinwell (Queens')</dd>
<dt>Sponsorship:</dt><dd>Nial Peters (St Catharine’s)</dd> <dt>Sponsorship:</dt><dd>Nial Peters (St Catharine's)</dd>
<dt>Other committee members:</dt><dd>Martin Green (Corpus)</dd> <dt>Other committee members:</dt><dd>Martin Green (Corpus)</dd>
<dd> <i>[plus others yet to be appointed]</i></dd> <dd> <i>[plus others yet to be appointed]</i></dd>
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