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@ -255,7 +255,7 @@ Cirque du Soleil: QMB - Pitch on L as enter chamber
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QMA: Big drippy pitch in south side of chamber, drafts strngly in (down pitch)
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QMA: Big drippy pitch in south side of chamber, drafts strngly in (down pitch)
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QMB: Pitch on R by wall just before slope down into trunk passage
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QMB: Pitch on R by wall just before slope down into trunk passage
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QMB: Pitch on L by slope down into trunk passage
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QMB: Pitch on L by slope down into trunk passage
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QMA: Big drippy pitch at end of trunk passage <u>POSSIBLY FINAL PITCH OF KIWI SUIT</u></pre>
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QMA: Big drippy pitch at end of trunk passage <u>POSSIBLY FINAL PITCH OF KIWI SUIT</u></pre></div>
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<p>Have we found the legendary phreas at the top of Razordance ????</p>
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<p>Have we found the legendary phreas at the top of Razordance ????</p>
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<div class="trippeople"><u>Becka</u> + Julian</div><div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-14a">14/8/12</div>
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<div class="trippeople"><u>Becka</u> + Julian</div><div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-14a">14/8/12</div>
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<div class="triptitle">Walk from Lower Bergrestaurant -> Ischler Hutte via the Schöberg</div>
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<div class="triptitle">Walk from Lower Bergrestaurant -> Ischler Hutte via the Schöberg</div>
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<p>This was Olaf's idea so I'd got all keen then he dropped out (having had a hard time walking to Appelhaus form Top Camp) so that left me to bully poor Julian into coming along. By the time we'd dropped off Julia at the teain station to head home to Norway + braved the Bad Aussee traffic jam a second time as we'd forgotten our toll booth pass it was 11 am before we set off. We split Julian's caving gear between us for the walk to Top Camp + had lunch + I packed my caving gear there then set off up Tunnocks to the saddle then followed the German's cairns - excellent route up slabs. From there we were on our own until we hit the 228 main path up the Schönberg which is ridiculously well marked in red + white. To get there we contoured round east side of the Große Grieskogel + E of the Große Wildkogel. By the time we hit the path Julian was feeling really ill so I shuttled the rucksacks one at a time up to the Schönberg + then at hte top I put all the heavy stuff in my bag + left Julian to go to the Ischlerhutte hoping Wookey + Olaf would be there to persuade to fetch Julian's. No such luck so I dumped my bag + left him lying groaning in hte path. Eventually he made it down, threw up + went to bed. Oh dear, seem to have broken him. We think he may have had heat stroke though we had plenty of water + it wasn't that hot. Anyway this is an <u>excellent</u> walk if you aren't carrying a full set of caving gear each + highly recommended as a pre-dinner route from Top Camp with stunning views from the Schönberg ridge. Guides were Harald <- Chief geek for Schönberg + Wig (for Ludwig, who's surveyed 47 km in Schönberg).
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<p>This was Olaf's idea so I'd got all keen then he dropped out (having had a hard time walking to Appelhaus from Top Camp) so that left me to bully poor Julian into coming along. By the time we'd dropped off Julia at the train station to head home to Norway + braved the Bad Aussee traffic jam a second time as we'd forgotten our toll booth pass it was 11 am before we set off. We split Julian's caving gear between us for the walk to Top Camp + had lunch + I packed my caving gear there then set off up Tunnocks to the saddle then followed the German's cairns - excellent route up slabs. From there we were on our own until we hit the 228 main path up the Schönberg which is ridiculously well marked in red + white. To get there we contoured round east side of the Große Grieskogel + E of the Große Wildkogel. By the time we hit the path Julian was feeling really ill so I shuttled the rucksacks one at a time up to the Schönberg + then at the top I put all the heavy stuff in my bag + left Julian to go to the Ischlerhutte hoping Wookey + Olaf would be there to persuade to fetch Julian's. No such luck so I dumped my bag + left him lying groaning in the path. Eventually he made it down, threw up + went to bed. Oh dear, seem to have broken him. We think he may have had heat stroke though we had plenty of water + it wasn't that hot. Anyway this is an <u>excellent</u> walk if you aren't carrying a full set of caving gear each + highly recommended as a pre-dinner route from Top Camp with stunning views from the Schönberg ridge. Guides were Harald <- Chief geek for Schönberg + Wig (for Ludwig, who's surveyed 47 km in Schönberg).
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<p>This trip is recorded earlier, but some details of our bit are not covered, hence this addendum.</p>
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<p>This trip is recorded earlier, but some details of our bit are not covered, hence this addendum.</p>
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<p>Holly & Emma had got up to shelf off Fat Cat as part of the great 'find KH' exercise and needed someone to shin up a climb. Apparently bottom was loose & would probably need a bolt. Holly considered this a handy opportunity to watch how boltng up climbs is done. In fact, although the move off the ground was tricky, no bolts were needed & Wook shinned easily to near the top. It would have been trivial but for the pile of boulders perched on the edge which comprised all the holds. Attempting to use them might bring the lot crashing down so a couple of bolts were now put in to enable climbing gingerly past. There was passage at the top (!) a climb up to another pitch & a traverse. Holly came up & put in her first 2 drill bolts to make a nice rig, then we surveyed the new bit. Couldn't go further due to lack of rope, but 15m disto shot across traverse deserved a return. Hometime by now, Holly & Olaf exited whilst Wook showed Rob how to put in a bolt to remove Fat Cat rub. Sudden noise of water at 8:30 pm told us it had thunderstormed, and we duly got rather wet on Brians PS, and despite spending 1 hr 45 shifting rocks in the pleasure dome in the hope that levels would reduce, still got wet on 1st half & soaked on 2nd half of King Carbide. Yuk! Tried to wedge a rock in spout of lower half & nearly got stuck upside down in hole whilst last in cave. Out @ 12:30</p>
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<p>Holly & Emma had got up to shelf off Fat Cat as part of the great 'find KH' exercise and needed someone to shin up a climb. Apparently bottom was loose & would probably need a bolt. Holly considered this a handy opportunity to watch how bolting up climbs is done. In fact, although the move off the ground was tricky, no bolts were needed & Wook shinned easily to near the top. It would have been trivial but for the pile of boulders perched on the edge which comprised all the holds. Attempting to use them might bring the lot crashing down so a couple of bolts were now put in to enable climbing gingerly past. There was passage at the top (!) a climb up to another pitch & a traverse. Holly came up & put in her first 2 drill bolts to make a nice rig, then we surveyed the new bit. Couldn't go further due to lack of rope, but 15m disto shot across traverse deserved a return. Hometime by now, Holly & Olaf exited whilst Wook showed Rob how to put in a bolt to remove Fat Cat rub. Sudden noise of water at 8:30 pm told us it had thunderstormed, and we duly got rather wet on Brians PS, and despite spending 1 hr 45 shifting rocks in the pleasure dome in the hope that levels would reduce, still got wet on 1st half & soaked on 2nd half of King Carbide. Yuk! Tried to wedge a rock in spout of lower half & nearly got stuck upside down in hole whilst last in cave. Out @ 12:30</p>
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 12 hrs</div>
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 12 hrs</div>
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<p>Went down to the connection to turn the 'exploratory' rigging into
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<p>Went down to the connection to turn the 'exploratory' rigging into
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something suitable for mere mortals. Took drill + 3batteries + hand
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something suitable for mere mortals. Took drill + 3batteries + hand
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bolting kit & leftover nasty red ropes. Spent some hours re-doing the
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bolting kit & left over nasty red ropes. Spent some hours re-doing the
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1st traverse to go higher along line of shelf. Rob did all the
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1st traverse to go higher along line of shelf. Rob did all the
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bolting & seemed to enjoy himself. Added 3 or 4 there, another on
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bolting & seemed to enjoy himself. Added 3 or 4 there, another on
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up-bit to remove rub & Y-hang the end. Only possible by replacing
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up-bit to remove rub & Y-hang the end. Only possible by replacing
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<p><img src=logbkimg14.png" /><img src=logbkimg15.png" /></p>
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<p><img src=logbkimg14.png" /><img src=logbkimg15.png" /></p>
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LIST OF ROPES LEFT - Far From Support double traverse
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LIST OF ROPES LEFT - Far From Support double traverse
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- Rivendale traverse
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- Rivendale traverse
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- Mad Dogs pitch
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- Mad Dogs pitch
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- Puss in Boots traverse (+ pitch at end of it)
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- Puss in Boots traverse (+ pitch at end of it)
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- Cat Flap Pitches (left rigged in 2009)
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- Cat Flap Pitches (left rigged in 2009)
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<div class="trippeople">Duncan & <u>Anthony</u></div>
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<div class="trippeople">Duncan & <u>Anthony</u></div>
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<div class="timeug">T/U: negligible</div>
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<div class="timeug">T/U: negligible</div>
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<p>Went for a stroll over the back of the Hohes AugstEck ridge in search of Organhöhle, the cave found by UBSS in 1989/90. We didn't find it, though it looks as though Wookey & Olaf found something that cosely matches the description on the following day. We spent a while looking around where the GPS says BS17 should be, until Duncan noticed that the UBSS map placed BS17 almost due east of the summit of the Hohes AugstEck, which was significantly further south - so we tried our luck in that area. The cave that Wookey and Olaf found is actually much closaer to the GPS point.</p>
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<p>Went for a stroll over the back of the Hohes AugstEck ridge in search of Organhöhle, the cave found by UBSS in 1989/90. We didn't find it, though it looks as though Wookey & Olaf found something that closely matches the description on the following day. We spent a while looking around where the GPS says BS17 should be, until Duncan noticed that the UBSS map placed BS17 almost due east of the summit of the Hohes AugstEck, which was significantly further south - so we tried our luck in that area. The cave that Wookey and Olaf found is actually much closaer to the GPS point.</p>
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<p>Although we didn't find BS17, we did find several entrances, all of which have been documented on the expo computer. The most interesting of these are:</p>
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<p>Although we didn't find BS17, we did find several entrances, all of which have been documented on the expo computer. The most interesting of these are:</p>
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<dt>2012-dd-05:</dt>
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<dd>Horizontal entrance that quickly leads to a short pitch. Carries a draught, and well worth a return visit. This is close to hte GPS point for BS16 but does not match the description in the UBSS report.</dd>
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<dd>Horizontal entrance that quickly leads to a short pitch. Carries a draught, and well worth a return visit. This is close to the GPS point for BS16 but does not match the description in the UBSS report.</dd>
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<dt>2012-dd-06:</dt>
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<dd>Another horizontal entrance leading to shrt pitch. This cave contains evidence of previous exploration: we found an old zoom flatpack and an empty packet of "Big D" brand peanuts with a 1988 sell-by date, which is after the LUSS expeditions but before the UBSS expeditions. However, since the cavea is much closer to the UBSS area, we suspect that UBSS are more likely to have explored it, usng out-of-date peanuts for sustenance. There is no sign of any painted number and hte cave does not seem to match any of the descriptions of UBSS or LUSS finds.</dd>
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<dd>Another horizontal entrance leading to short pitch. This cave contains evidence of previous exploration: we found an old zoom flatpack and an empty packet of "Big D" brand peanuts with a 1988 sell-by date, which is after the LUSS expeditions but before the UBSS expeditions. However, since the cave is much closer to the UBSS area, we suspect that UBSS are more likely to have explored it, usng out-of-date peanuts for sustenance. There is no sign of any painted number and the cave does not seem to match any of the descriptions of UBSS or LUSS finds.</dd>
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<dt>2013-dd-07:</dt>
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<dd>A well hidden hole that looks like a rock shelter until you are standing right next to it. A low, wide phreatic passage lead downhill along the edding to a choke. The modest draught appears to go up a climbable aven a short way back. Close to 2012-dd-06.</dd>
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<dd>A well hidden hole that looks like a rock shelter until you are standing right next to it. A low, wide phreatic passage leads downhill along the bedding to a choke. The modest draught appears to go up a climbable aven a short way back. Close to 2012-dd-06.</dd>
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<dt>2012-dd-08:</dt>
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<dd>Large entrance a little higher up and south of the other entrance, allways on are choked but there is a hole that looks diggable that carries a draught.</dd>
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<dd>Large entrance a little higher up and south of the other entrance, all ways on are choked but there is a hole that looks diggable that carries a draught.</dd>
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<p>All these caves are at a similar altitude to each other and (most likely) Organhöhle, so there appears to be something interesting ging on here - well worth a return.</p>
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<p>All these caves are at a similar altitude to each other and (most likely) Organhöhle, so there appears to be something interesting going on here - well worth a return.</p>
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