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<li><a href="/survey_scans/2018%252343/">expo.survex.com/survey_scans/2018%252343/</a> - list of links to scanned notes for wallet #43 during the 2018 expo.
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<h3 id="troggle">Troggle - why we developed it</a></h3>
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<p>Troggle..
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<ol>
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<li>Coherently publishes expo data by cave, by expedition, by person, by trip or by survey - without requiring duplicate data entry.
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<li>Manages and safely archives the typed and scanned survey data, entrance data, trip records (logbooks) and expo records.
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<li>Enforces consistency - making it easier to detect mistakes and omissions
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<li>Publishes the "guidebook descriptions" of caves by a combination of online forms and uploading files.
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<li>Supports the process of turning scribbled notes into finished cave surveys
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<li>Generates prospecting guides so that we don't waste time looking at holes which have already been explored
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<li>Reformats the webpages such that they have a coherent style and have a small menu at the top-left
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hand corner. These are the handbook you are reading now and the historic records of past expeditions.
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<li>Provides a way of editing individual pages of the handbook
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for very quick and urgent changes.
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[This is the "Edit this page" capability; see <a href="../computing/manual.html#editthispage"> for
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how to use it</a> and <em>how to tidy up afterwards</em>].
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</ol>
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<h3 id="where">Troggle - where it gets the data</a></h3>
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<p>
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All the data of all kinds is stored in files. When troggle starts up it imports that data from the files. There are other scripts doing useful things (folk, wallets) and these too get their data from files. Troggle is completely unlike any other django installation: it has a database, but the database is rebuilt from files.
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All the data of all kinds is stored in files. When troggle starts up it imports that data from the files. There are other scripts doing useful things (folk, wallets) and these too get their data from files.
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<p>There is never any need to back up or archive the database as it is rebuilt from files. Rebuilding troggle and re-importing all the data takes about half an hour.
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<p>This part of the handbook is intended for people maintaining the troggle software:
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<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1155986.The_Tricky_Troggle">
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<img border="1" class="onright" width="150px" src='tricky-troggle.jpg' alt='git logo'/></a>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="../computing/newyear.html">Annual tasks</a>: preparing for next year, finishing last year.
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<li><a href="../computing/regular.html">Regular tasks</a>: housekeeping as surveys are digitised.
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<li><a href="trogdocm.html">Maintain troggle</a> itself. The code is public on repository <a href="../computing/repos.html">:troggle:</a>
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<li><a href="trognotes.html">Uncategorised notes</a> and past speculations
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</ul>
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<h3 id="troggle">Troggle - why we developed it</a></h3>
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<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1155986.The_Tricky_Troggle">
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<img border="1" class="onright" width="150px" src='tricky-troggle.jpg' alt='git logo'/></a>
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<p>Troggle..
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<ol>
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<li>Coherently publishes expo data by cave, by expedition, by person, by trip or by survey - without requiring duplicate data entry.
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<li>Manages and safely archives the typed and scanned survey data, entrance data, trip records (logbooks) and expo records.
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<li>Enforces consistency - making it easier to detect mistakes and omissions
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<li>Publishes the "guidebook descriptions" of caves by a combination of online forms and uploading files.
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<li>Supports the process of turning scribbled notes into finished cave surveys
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<li>Generates prospecting guides so that we don't waste time looking at holes which have already been explored
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<li>Reformats the webpages such that they have a coherent style and have a small menu at the top-left
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hand corner. These are the handbook you are reading now and the historic records of past expeditions.
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<li>Provides a way of editing individual pages of the handbook
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for very quick and urgent changes.
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[This is the "Edit this page" capability; see <a href="../computing/manual.html#editthispage"> for
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how to use it</a> and <em>how to tidy up afterwards</em>].
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</ol>
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<p>Troggle is completely unlike any other django installation: it has a database, but the database is rebuilt from files every time it starts.
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<p>Most of the data entry into troggle happens during or just after the expedition.
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<p>* "Troggle eats just one very big meal a year."
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<hr />
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Go on to: <a href="trogarch.html">Troggle architecture</a><br />
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Return to: <a href="trogintro.html">Troggle intro</a><br />
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<pre>
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From: Philip Sargent (Gmail) [mailto:philip.sargent@gmail.com]
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Sent: 19 April 2020 01:28
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Sent: 19 April 2020 01:28 [original - since edited with extra refs.]
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To: expo-tech@lists.wookware.org
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Subject: vague thoughts about future troggle architecture
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</pre>
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be utterly horrible using current tools (javascript frameworks: react,
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angular etc.).
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<p>
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These frameworks get out of date in couple of years or so. So they don't
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These front-end frameworks get out of date in couple of years or so. So they don't
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give us the decade-long stability we need to match available maintenance
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effort.
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effort. [ See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_JavaScript_frameworks">
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Wikipedia list of javascript frameworks</a>.] With our deep historical perspective ("cough"),
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we can expect this menagerie to sort itself out into a stable, standardised foundation
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within the next 10 years.
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<p>
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A web API to expose the troggle database (read-only) would allow some keen
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person to write a special-purpose app on a phone, e.g. an entrance-locator
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app, talking directly to the database. But replacing the whole user
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interface does not seem feasible yet.
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interface does not seem feasible yet. In 10 years: probably.
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<p>
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It did occur to me that we are missing a trick: 99+% of the database doesn't
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change except for survey data updates which, apart from during expo, happen
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<p>
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<h3>troggle now</h3>
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Troggle is very nearly fully working (not with as many functions as
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originally envisaged admittedly) but very nearly.
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originally envisaged admittedly) but very nearly [it is now: 8 July 2020].
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The QM data display needs writing; but other than that it's in pretty good
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shape. [Ah, yes, we should really add "drawings" as a core concept as well
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as "surveyscans". That will be a bit of work.]
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<h3>Non-django troggle</h3>
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<p>Another possibility is ripping django out of troggle and leaving bare python
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plus a SQL database. This means that programmers would need to understand more SQL
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but would not need to understand "django". Arguably this
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plus a SQL database [see <a href="trog2030.html">Trog2030 proposal</a>]. This means that programmers would need to understand more SQL but would not need to understand "django". Arguably this
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could mean that we could gain.
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<p>Writing our own multi-user code would not be sensible, hence the database.
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But we could move to a read-only system where the only writing happens on data-import.
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<p>There is a templating engine <a href="https://mozilla.github.io/nunjucks/">Nunjucks</a>
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which is a port to JavaScript of the Django templating system we use
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(via <a href="https://palletsprojects.com/p/jinja/">Jinja</a> - these are the same people who do Flask). This would be an obvious thing to use if we needed to go in that direction.
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<p>We need a templating engine because so much of the troggle coorindation output is in tables of data from diffrerent sources, e.g. see <a href=/survexfile/264">all survey data for 264</a>.
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<p>Several organisations have moved their user-interface layer to the browser using
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Nunjucks including <a href="https://service-manual.nhs.uk/design-system/prototyping">
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the NHS digital service</a> and Firefox.
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