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@@ -19,8 +19,8 @@ Obersteier</a>.
<br>
Follow their <a href="http://www.hoehle.at/wordpress/links/">links page</a> to find more local clubs</li>
-<li>The German <a href="http://www.arge-grabenstetten.de/">Arbeitsgemeinschaft
-Höhle und Karst Grabenstetten e.V.</a> is still active in the area and
+<li>The German <a href="others/arge/index.html">Arbeitsgemeinschaft
+Höhle und Karst Grabenstetten e.V.</a> (ARGE) is still active in the area and
cooperating on friendly terms with CUCC. They have recently carried out much
exploration in the southern area around <a
href="1623/41.htm">Stellerweghöhle</a>, including the most major
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@@ -0,0 +1,28 @@
+<!DOCTYPE html>
+<html>
+<head>
+<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
+<title>ARGE</title>
+<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../css/main2.css" />
+</head>
+<body>
+<h1>Arbeitsgemeinschaft Höhle und Karst Grabenstetten e.V.</h1>
+
+<p><a href="https://arge-grabenstetten.de/">ARGE</a> are camping at the road head carpark for a week which usually coincides with Expo. In 2018 we hosted them with an excellent beer and food event at basecamp.
+
+<p>ARGE are acttive in the area and cooperating on friendly terms with Expo. They have carried out much exploration in the southern area around Stellerweghöhle, including the most major discovery in the plateau in recent years, the connection of the Stellerweghöhle/Eishöhle system to Kaninchenhöhle.
+
+<p>Being based in Stuttgart, they are close enough to the Totes Gebirge that they can come for the weekend. So their Summer week is more of a holiday (with small children and non-caving partners) than a caving expedition. A number of camper-vans congregate in a corner of the carpark at the bergrestaurant (Löer Alm).
+<hr />
+<!-- LINKS -->
+<ul id="links">
+<li><a href="../../indxal.htm">Index</a> of all caves documented in
+1623.</li>
+<li><a href="../../areas.htm">Overview</a> 1623</li>
+<li><a href="../../1626/index.html">Overview</a> 1626</li>
+<li><a href="../../index.htm">Expo</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../../index.htm">CUCC</a></li>
+<li><a href="../index.htm">Other groups</a> </li>
+</ul>
+</body>
+</html>
diff --git a/others/index.htm b/others/index.htm
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@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
<!DOCTYPE html>
-<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
+<html">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content= "text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Totes Gebirge: groups</title>
@@ -140,7 +140,12 @@
<h4>German Groups and individuals</h4>
<ul>
- <li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vereines für
+ <li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">ARGE: <a href=
+ "arge/index.html" lang="de" xml:lang=
+ "de">Arbeitsgemeinschaft Höhle und Karst Grabenstetten
+ e.V.</a></span> are friends from Stuttgart who have seriously extended and connected some of our caves. </li>
+
+ <li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vereines für
Höhlenkunde in München e.V.</span> 1983 and others.
The site contains one article from this group which is CTS ref.
<a lang="de" href="muenchen/de/841642.htm" xml:lang=
@@ -152,11 +157,7 @@
worked independently - they have some survey data we need
!</li>
- <li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de"><a href=
- "https://arge-grabenstetten.de/" lang="de" xml:lang=
- "de">Arbeitsgemeinschaft Höhle und Karst Grabenstetten
- e.V.</a></span></li>
-
+
<li><span lang="de" xml:lang="de">Vred Vischer</span> 1980
(worked/s with above)</li>
</ul>