Austrian Kataser and Coordinates

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<a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br> <a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br>
<a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br> <a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br>
<a href="/katast.htm">The Austrian Kataster areas</a>. <a href="/katast.htm">The Austrian Kataster areas</a>.
<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">Vergleich der &Ouml;K 50 mit der neuen &Ouml;K 50-UTM</a>.
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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2> <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2>
<h1>GPS and coordinate systems</h1> <h1>GPS and coordinate systems</h1>
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<p>See also:<br> <p>See also:<br>
<a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br> <a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br>
<a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br> <a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br>
<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>. <a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.<br>
<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook: Vergleich der &Ouml;K 50 mit der neuen &Ouml;K 50-UTM</a>.
<h3>Coordinate systems</h3> <h3>Coordinate systems</h3>
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it seems) write it down by hand on one of the A5 cave info sheets with all the it seems) write it down by hand on one of the A5 cave info sheets with all the
other details of your cave and put that in the surveys ringbinder file. </p> other details of your cave and put that in the surveys ringbinder file. </p>
<h3>Nitty Gritty</h3>
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<a href="../i/meridianstreifen.jpg"><img src="../t/meridianstreifen.jpg"></a>
<br><br><figcaption>Austrian Meridians<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook</a> 8.7 - click to enlarge</figcaption>
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<p>If you want to read about the nitty gritty of converting GPS coordinates to <p>If you want to read about the nitty gritty of converting GPS coordinates to
the ones used by the Kataster system, you can do no better than read the the ones used by the Kataster system, you can do no better than read the
short introduction to <a href="coord.htm">coordinate systems</a>, which briefly short introduction to <a href="coord.htm">coordinate systems</a>, which briefly
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<a href="../../years/1996/gps.htm">Compass Points Article</a> from 1996, which <a href="../../years/1996/gps.htm">Compass Points Article</a> from 1996, which
briefly says "it's horribly complicated and we don't really know how to do it briefly says "it's horribly complicated and we don't really know how to do it
properly".) Overall things have significantly improved since the early days, properly".) Overall things have significantly improved since the early days,
particularly as without the fog of the SA variation it's now easy to find out particularly as without the fog of the
<a href="https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/">Selective Availability</a>
variation it's now easy to find out
whether your GPS is set up right by just GPSsing a known point and comparing whether your GPS is set up right by just GPSsing a known point and comparing
the results. However, the main point of having a GPS fix on an entrance is the results. However, the main point of having a GPS fix on an entrance is
so we can find it again and be sure it is the same one!</p> so we can find it again and be sure it is the same one!</p>

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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2> <h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2>
<h1>Geographical fixed points on Loser</h1> <h1>Geographical fixed points on Loser</h1>
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<h3>Note to readers in the 2020s</h3> <h3>Note to readers in the 2020s</h3>
<p>While this page is mostly <em>correct</em>, it is most definitely not <em>current</em>. <p>While this page is mostly <em>correct</em>, it is most definitely not <em>current</em>.
It was written in 2001 and last seriously updated in 2006. It was written in 2001 and last seriously updated in 2006.
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<p>For the nitty gritty about coordinate systems in Austria see:<br> <p>For the nitty gritty about coordinate systems in Austria see:<br>
<a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br> <a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br>
<a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br> <a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br>
<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>. <a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.<br>
<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook: Vergleich der &Ouml;K 50 mit der neuen &Ouml;K 50-UTM</a>.
<h3>Original description - Historical record</h3> <h3>Original description - Historical record</h3>
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between UTM/31 figures from GPS and the G&amp;K coordinates of fixed between UTM/31 figures from GPS and the G&amp;K coordinates of fixed
points... This is probably because the bulk of Austria is in UTM zone 33 points... This is probably because the bulk of Austria is in UTM zone 33
which you will see if you use a GPS, which will give coordinates in zone 33T. which you will see if you use a GPS, which will give coordinates in zone 33T.
Hmmmm.</p> Hmmmm. (See <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook, paras 8.7 and 8.8: &Ouml;K 50-UTM</a> for a possible explanation - Ed.)</p>
<p>Within this system, there are a number of triangulation points surveyed <p>Within this system, there are a number of triangulation points surveyed
purely for the purpose of locating caves: these are the purely for the purpose of locating caves: these are the
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addition or subtraction, though it may prove to be more complex than this addition or subtraction, though it may prove to be more complex than this
over a large enough area, as already indicated by GPS work...</p> over a large enough area, as already indicated by GPS work...</p>
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<ul id="links"> <a href="../i/meridianstreifen.jpg"><img src="../t/meridianstreifen.jpg"></a>
<li><b>Expedition Handbook:</b> <br><br><figcaption>Austrian Meridians<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook</a> 8.7 - click to enlarge</figcaption>
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<li>Expo Handbook <a href="../index.htm">Introduction</a></li> </div>
<li><b>Surveying:</b> <hr>
<ul>
<li>Surveying <a href="index.htm">Overview</a> and index of
topics</li>
<li><a href="what.htm">What is a cave survey?</a></li>
<li><a href="why.htm">Why am I doing this?</a></li>
<li>Methods: <a href="how.htm">underground</a></li>
<li>Pitfalls to avoid, <a href="hints.htm">hints'n'tips</a> to
make life easier</li>
<li>Methods: <a href="ontop.htm">surface</a></li>
<li>Base Camp: <a href="getin.htm">getting it in</a> to the
computer</li>
<li>Base Camp: <a href="drawup.htm">drawing it up</a>, writing
the description</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="../look4.htm">Prospecting guide</a></li>
<li><a href="../rescue.htm">Rescue guide</a></li>
<li><a href="../rig/rigit.html">Rigging guide</a></li>
<li><a href="../photo.htm">Photography guide</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="../../infodx.htm">Index to info/topics pages</a></li>
<li><a href="../../indxal.htm">Full Index to area 1623</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="../../areas.htm">Area/subarea descriptions</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="../../index.htm">Back to Expedition Intro page</a></li>
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<title>CUCC Austria Expeditions: The Kataster</title> <title>CUCC Austria Expeditions: The Kataster</title>
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<h1>The Austrian <em>H&ouml;hlenkataster</em></h1> <h1>The Austrian <em>H&ouml;hlenkataster</em></h1>
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<p>The H&ouml;hlenkataster is a national catalogue of all the documented caves <p>The H&ouml;hlenkataster is a national catalogue of all the documented caves
in Austria. Within it, each known cave has a unique number. This number in Austria. Within it, each known cave has a unique number. This number
comprises two parts - the first part identifies the area in which the comprises two parts - the first part identifies the area in which the
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massif) is the western massif, and within that, "1623" (the Teilgruppe or massif) is the western massif, and within that, "1623" (the Teilgruppe or
part of the massif) is the Loser Augst-Eck plateau.</p> part of the massif) is the Loser Augst-Eck plateau.</p>
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<a href="../expofiles/documents/gebirgsgruppen.pdf"><img src="../tinypix/katast.jpg"></a>
<br><figcaption>Austrian Kastaster Areas- click to enlarge</figcaption>
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<p>The area numbers are shown on <p>The area numbers are shown on
<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/Gebirgsgruppen.pdf">this online <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/Gebirgsgruppen.pdf">this online
map</a> and we have own own map</a> and we have own own
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<p>Due to our hard work over 40 years, 1623 has the highest density <p>Due to our hard work over 40 years, 1623 has the highest density
of explored caves (caves per square km) of any of the kataster areas. of explored caves (caves per square km) of any of the kataster areas.
<p>A cave which CUCC are currently exploring is named <p>A cave which CUCC explored from 2001 is named
"Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle", which has the number 1623/204. There are "Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle", which has the number 1623/204. There are
presently six entrances, and these are labelled 1623/204A, 204B, 204C, 204D, presently six entrances, and these are labelled 1623/204A, 204B, 204C, 204D,
204E and 204F. On older discoveries, these numbers were typically painted on 204E and 204F. On older discoveries, these numbers were typically painted on
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<p>The VOH maintains a <a href="https://hoehle.org/laengste-tiefste">current list of longest and deepest caves</a> in Austria and their <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">Austrian <p>The VOH maintains a <a href="https://hoehle.org/laengste-tiefste">current list of longest and deepest caves</a> in Austria and their <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">Austrian
Caving Handbook</a> is well-worth skimming through. Caving Handbook</a> is well-worth skimming through.
This is the master document defining the caving areas and the Austrian cave classification system. This is the master document defining the caving areas and the Austrian cave classification system. In 2022 The Schwatzmoosk&ouml;gel System is 10th deepest and
2nd longest in Austria.
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<table class="trad"> <table class="trad">
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</p> </p>
<hr /> <hr />
<ul>
<li><a href="gall0.htm">Index of cave photo gallery</a></li>
<li><a href="gallery/0.htm">Cave photo gallery(with thumbnails)</a></li>
<li><a href="guidebook/via201.htm">Stellerweg</a> area;</li>
<li><a href=" guidebook/br-alm.html">Br&auml;uning Alm</a> description
<li><a href=" guidebook/walkin.htm">Walk-in</a></li>
<li><a href=" guidebook/plateau.html">Plateau</a> description</li>
<li><a href=" guidebook/areas.htm">Area descriptions</a></li>
<li><a href=" guidebook/kratzer.html">Kratzer</a>.</li>
<li>Table of <a href="../folk/index.htm"><b>members</b> of CUCC expeditions</a> 1976-present</li>
</ul>
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<li><b>Pictures:</b>
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