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<a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br>
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<a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br>
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<a href="/katast.htm">The Austrian Kataster areas</a>.
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<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">Vergleich der ÖK 50 mit der neuen ÖK 50-UTM</a>.
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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2>
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<h1>GPS and coordinate systems</h1>
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<p>See also:<br>
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<a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br>
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<a href="lasers.htm">Geographical fixed points on Loser</a><br>
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<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.
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<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.<br>
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<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook: Vergleich der ÖK 50 mit der neuen ÖK 50-UTM</a>.
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<h3>Coordinate systems</h3>
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it seems) write it down by hand on one of the A5 cave info sheets with all the
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other details of your cave and put that in the surveys ringbinder file. </p>
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<h3>Nitty Gritty</h3>
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<a href="../i/meridianstreifen.jpg"><img src="../t/meridianstreifen.jpg"></a>
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<br><br><figcaption>Austrian Meridians<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook</a> 8.7 - click to enlarge</figcaption>
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</div>
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<p>If you want to read about the nitty gritty of converting GPS coordinates to
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the ones used by the Kataster system, you can do no better than read the
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short introduction to <a href="coord.htm">coordinate systems</a>, which briefly
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<a href="../../years/1996/gps.htm">Compass Points Article</a> from 1996, which
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briefly says "it's horribly complicated and we don't really know how to do it
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properly".) Overall things have significantly improved since the early days,
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particularly as without the fog of the SA variation it's now easy to find out
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particularly as without the fog of the
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<a href="https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/">Selective Availability</a>
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variation it's now easy to find out
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whether your GPS is set up right by just GPSsing a known point and comparing
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the results. However, the main point of having a GPS fix on an entrance is
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so we can find it again and be sure it is the same one!</p>
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<h2 id="tophead">CUCC Expo Surveying Handbook</h2>
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<h1>Geographical fixed points on Loser</h1>
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<h3>Note to readers in the 2020s</h3>
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<p>While this page is mostly <em>correct</em>, it is most definitely not <em>current</em>.
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It was written in 2001 and last seriously updated in 2006.
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<p>For the nitty gritty about coordinate systems in Austria see:<br>
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<a href="/eastings">Troggle UTM data report</a><br>
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<a href="coord2.html">GPS and coordinate systems</a><br>
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<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.
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<a href="coord.htm">Basic Coordinate Systems</a>.<br>
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<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook: Vergleich der ÖK 50 mit der neuen ÖK 50-UTM</a>.
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<h3>Original description - Historical record</h3>
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between UTM/31 figures from GPS and the G&K coordinates of fixed
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points... This is probably because the bulk of Austria is in UTM zone 33
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which you will see if you use a GPS, which will give coordinates in zone 33T.
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Hmmmm.</p>
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Hmmmm. (See <a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook, paras 8.7 and 8.8: ÖK 50-UTM</a> for a possible explanation - Ed.)</p>
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<p>Within this system, there are a number of triangulation points surveyed
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purely for the purpose of locating caves: these are the
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addition or subtraction, though it may prove to be more complex than this
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over a large enough area, as already indicated by GPS work...</p>
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<li><b>Expedition Handbook:</b>
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<li>Expo Handbook <a href="../index.htm">Introduction</a></li>
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<li><b>Surveying:</b>
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<li><a href="what.htm">What is a cave survey?</a></li>
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<li><a href="why.htm">Why am I doing this?</a></li>
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<li>Methods: <a href="how.htm">underground</a></li>
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<li>Pitfalls to avoid, <a href="hints.htm">hints'n'tips</a> to
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<li>Methods: <a href="ontop.htm">surface</a></li>
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<li>Base Camp: <a href="getin.htm">getting it in</a> to the
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<li>Base Camp: <a href="drawup.htm">drawing it up</a>, writing
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the description</li>
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<br><br><figcaption>Austrian Meridians<a href="https://hoehle.org/downloads/SD_10_Handbuch.pdf">SD 10 Handbook</a> 8.7 - click to enlarge</figcaption>
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