diff --git a/links.htm b/links.htm
index f06ecc877..fb3b851d6 100644
--- a/links.htm
+++ b/links.htm
@@ -9,8 +9,9 @@
 
 <h1>Links to other relevant sites</h1>
 
-<h3>Other groups working in the area</h3>
 
+<h3>Other groups working in the area</h3>
+<p>If you didn't reach this page from <a href="others/index.htm">Groups known to have worked in Totes Gebirge caves</a> please go and read that first.
 <ul>
 <li>The principal reference must be to the local Austrian caving group, the
 <a href="http://www.hoehle.at">Verein f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde im
@@ -81,6 +82,8 @@ the geological zones of Austria</a></li>
 Survey</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=geological+zones+of+Austria&atb=v93-1&ia=web">Online search</a>
 </ul>
+
+<p>Return to <a href="others/index.htm">Groups known to have worked in Totes Gebirge caves</a>.
 <p><em><small>Links manually checked 21 December 2019</small></em>
 <hr />
 
diff --git a/others/index.htm b/others/index.htm
index adc1aef7f..95b3aa75d 100644
--- a/others/index.htm
+++ b/others/index.htm
@@ -1,13 +1,9 @@
-<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
-    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
-
+<!DOCTYPE html>
 <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
 <head>
-  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content=
-  "text/html; charset=us-ascii" />
-
-  <title>Totes Gebirge: groups</title>
-  <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../css/main2.css" />
+<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content=  "text/html; charset=utf-8" />
+<title>Totes Gebirge: groups</title>
+<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../css/main2.css" />
 </head>
 
 <body>
@@ -26,7 +22,7 @@
   very few are here in english translation. Where these exist, you
   can follow links to them.</p>
 
-  <p>A few groups are still active and have their own web pages -
+  <p><a href="../links.htm">A few groups are still active</a> and have their own web pages -
   you can follow links to these from here, or there is a page
   specifically for <a href="../links.htm">links to web sites</a>
   which includes other relevant organisations too.</p>
@@ -191,16 +187,8 @@
     <li>We think there may have been some...</li>
   </ul>
 
+<p>Please also check this page where the links may be more up to date: <a href="../links.htm">links to groups active in the area</a>.</p>
 <hr />
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-    page</a></li>
-
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