diff --git a/cave_data/1623-192.html b/cave_data/1623-192.html
index 90654bf40..11e45641c 100644
--- a/cave_data/1623-192.html
+++ b/cave_data/1623-192.html
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 <!DOCTYPE html>
-<!-- This file is generated by troggle on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:52 p.m. UTC using the form documented at /handbook/survey/caveentry.html -->
+<!-- This file is generated by troggle on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:53 p.m. UTC using the form documented at /handbook/survey/caveentry.html -->
 <!-- Only put one cave in this file -->
 <!-- If you edit this 162x-nnn.html file by hand, and manually upload it to the server using git,
 make sure you update the database by doing a full data import. If you edit it using the online form
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically -->
 <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
 </head>
 <body>
-<b>This file is generated by troggle</b> on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:52 p.m. UTC using the form documented at
+<b>This file is generated by troggle</b> on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:53 p.m. UTC using the form documented at
 the form documented at 
 <a href="/handbook/survey/caveentry.html">handbook/survey/caveentry.html</a>
 <br>
diff --git a/entrance_data/1623-192.html b/entrance_data/1623-192.html
index 207407efd..612d1406a 100644
--- a/entrance_data/1623-192.html
+++ b/entrance_data/1623-192.html
@@ -1,20 +1,32 @@
 <!DOCTYPE html>
 <!-- Only put one entrance in this file -->
-<!-- If you edit this file, make sure you update the websites database -->
+<!-- This file is generated by troggle on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:53 p.m. UTC using the form documented at handbook/survey/ententry.html -->
+<!-- If you edit this file by hand, and manually upload it to the server using git,
+make sure you update the database by doing a full data import. If you edit it using the online form
+though, you do not need to do a data import as it happens automatically -->
+
+    <!-- See http://expo.survex.com/handbook/survey/caveentryfields.html for current details on filling in this form -->
+    <!-- there is 1 required field: slug. The entrance will not appear without that. -->
+    <!-- ALWAYS use &uuml; for u+Umlaut and &ouml; for o+umlaut eg H&ouml;hle for Hohle and Gl&uuml;ck for Gluck-->
+
 <html lang="en">
 <head>
 <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
 </head>
 <body>
+<b>This file is generated by troggle</b> on Nov. 21, 2023, 3:53 p.m. UTC using the form documented at 
+<a href="/handbook/survey/ententry.html">handbook/survey/ententry.html</a>
+<br>
 <entrance>
 <non_public>False</non_public>
-<slug>1623-192</slug>
+<slug>1623-192</slug> <!-- one entrance and one slug per entrance_data file -->
 <name></name>
 <entrance_description>Two cairns, one either side of entrance.</entrance_description>
 <explorers></explorers>
-<map_description></map_description>
 <location_description>About 100m NNE from <a href="161/france.htm">161c</a>, and a few metres higher.</location_description>
-<approach></approach>
+<lastvisit></lastvisit>
+<approach>Went to France [161c] + found the others just emerging. ...<p> After some time I found the totally unobvious hole James + I had found previously + chucked a ladder down. Then found a fairly rusty spit near the top. I went down the ladder which didn't reach the bottom (bum), swung around lots. Decided it probably doesn't go but I can't be sure. ...
+<p>Failed to find the cave with a - on which James + I found before. Instead found a draughting horizontal entrance a bit below France which has snow in leading to a pitch in a big rift. Didn't go in - too scary. Didn't draw any pictures either because it was about to get dark.</approach>
 <underground_description></underground_description>
 <photo></photo>
 <!-- marking options: P  = Paint,
@@ -35,14 +47,12 @@
 <findability>L</findability>
 <findability_description></findability_description>
 <alt>c1755m</alt>
-<northing></northing>
-<easting></easting> 
+<lat_wgs84></lat_wgs84> 
+<long_wgs84></long_wgs84> 
 <tag_station></tag_station>
-<exact_station></exact_station>
 <other_station></other_station>
 <other_description></other_description>
-<bearings>1623/161c 200&deg;</bearings>
-<url></url>
+<bearings>1623/161c 200&deg;</bearings> <!-- this is now read-only and not editable on the forms-->
 </entrance>
 </body>
 </html>