Format is Year of discovery, serial number, Quality Grade, Area indicator, decription of QM -
Quality Grades:
Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions. + Area indicator:
Quality Grades:
Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions. + Area indicator:
Discoverer identifiers
Quality Grades:
Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions. +
Note that the quality grades are assigned by the explorers at the time, and that subsequent discoveries may mean that the grade is optimistic, since diff --git a/1623/204/qm.html b/1623/204/qm.html index a9f83e044..be9b02003 100644 --- a/1623/204/qm.html +++ b/1623/204/qm.html @@ -16,9 +16,10 @@ -- 204 index
For question mark list conventions, see here.
+ +Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions.
For question mark list conventions, see here.
+ +Quality Grades etc.: see documentation at QM conventions. +
For question mark list conventions, see here.
+Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions.
Key:
-Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions.
Probably seriously incomplete, especially for 1983-85.
diff --git a/1623/76/qmlist.htm b/1623/76/qmlist.htm index 46b5ce888..ed9a26ad0 100644 --- a/1623/76/qmlist.htm +++ b/1623/76/qmlist.htm @@ -12,6 +12,9 @@Quality Grades: see documentation at QM conventions. +
diff --git a/handbook/survey/qm.html b/handbook/survey/qm.html index 6e5ca0043..a760029bf 100644 --- a/handbook/survey/qm.html +++ b/handbook/survey/qm.html @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@Question Mark list conventions
-This page is somewhat outdated. For the current 21st century QM methods, +
For the current 21st century QM methods, where we store QMs in the survex files, see
The format for question mark lists is QM identifier, Quality Grade, Area -indicator, decription of QM. The QM numbers themselves are in the format -Discoverer identifier, Year of discovery, Cave identifier, serial number. - -
[Archaic: If -you look at the html, you will find that the nearest survey station (without -its "<cavenumber>." prefix) is included in an html comment for almost all -leads.]
- -In general, an unpushed QM will have a link from its QM number in the -cave description file to the HTML QM list file (generated by a perl script for caves 204, 234 and 258), and a link from the list to the relevant point in the -description. If there is no link, it means that we can't yet work out where the -QM is in the description, or the description doesn't yet exist :-).
-A - A fine QM - go down there and look. -
B - Not so promising, or requiring some effort (eg. a climb). -
C - Pretty cruddy, or good but very hard to get to. -
D - A dig only possible to continue if loose rocks or soil are removed. -
X - A high, wet or unsafe-looking aven unlikely to be climbed +
A — A fine QM - go down there and look. +
B — Not so promising, or requiring some effort (eg. a climb). +
C — Pretty cruddy, or good but very hard to get to. +
D — A dig only possible to continue if loose rocks or soil are removed. +
X — A high, wet or unsafe-looking aven unlikely to be climbed
-
And we used to have (no longer used): -
V - An aven which might be climbable, but not adequately assessed (use C or X instead, with comment) -
? - Unknown - origin lost in history. +
And we used to have (no longer used):
+V — An aven which might be climbable, but not adequately assessed (use C or X instead, with comment)
+? — Unknown - origin lost in history.
+! — may not exist, or may be multiple - guess from sketches
+* — allegedly pushed, but needs another look or survey
Note that the quality grades are assigned by the explorers at the time, and that subsequent discoveries may mean that the grade is optimistic, since the @@ -51,8 +39,31 @@ lead may now drop into passage which wasn't then explored. Also, different explorers have different ideas, or different waist sizes - one man's "A-lead" may be another's "C-lead" :-(
-In past years, we used to add into the QM identifier an indication of who discovered it. This is no longer used. +
The format for question mark identifiers has changed over the years. We used to renumber all the QMs after expo, so a simple 200x-QMnn was unique. At some point, before 2015 when we started putting the QMs in survex files, the QM numbering was done per-cave rather than per-Expo.
+e.g. C1992-161-08 » the 8th QM in 1988 in cave 1623-161. Discovered by Expo: ("C")
+
+e.g. 234-2004-24B » the 24th QM in 2004 in cave 1623-234, grade B.
+
+Currently we use the survex block name, the name of the *begin/*end section, as the thing to make QMs unique. We also show the year, the cave and the grade in all visible identifiers though these are not required for uniqueness.
+A separate sequence of identifier numbers is used for each survexfile:
+e.g. 290-2018-1Ccoconu3 » The 1st QM, grade C, in survex-block 'coconutchamber3'
which was surveyed in 2018 in cave 1623-290
+
+
In general, an unpushed QM will have a link from its QM number in the +cave description file to the HTML QM list file (generated by a perl script for caves 204, 234 and 258) [see +QM scripts], and a link from the list to the relevant point in the +description. If there is no link, it means that we can't yet work out where the +QM is in the description, or the description doesn't yet exist :-).
+ + +In past years, we used to put a prefix on the QM identifier as an indication of who discovered it. This is no longer used.
A - ARGE.
B - Groupe Spéléo de Clerval - Baume les Dames.
C - Cambridge University Caving Club - Expo. diff --git a/handbook/survey/qmentry.html b/handbook/survey/qmentry.html index 1fbaeee27..789ba2a78 100644 --- a/handbook/survey/qmentry.html +++ b/handbook/survey/qmentry.html @@ -14,7 +14,9 @@
This document describes how to include Question Marks (QMs) and cave descriptions in .svx files. -
This is the current list of QMs for 1623-290. +
This is the current list of QMs for 1623-290
+These are the current QM naming and numbering rules.
+
There are dedicated fields in the template.svx file for this purpose, but there has been laxness recently on filling them in. @@ -63,7 +65,7 @@ just fine that these are QMs. Here is an example from the last bit of bipedalpassage.svx in 264. Note that each QM description is all on one line.
;-----------
;Question Mark List ;(leave commented-out)
-;Serial number grade(A/B/C/D/V/X) nearest-station resolution-station description
+;Serial number grade(A/B/C/D/X) nearest-station resolution-station description
;QM1 A bipedalpassage.1 - Very good. 50m+ (?) deep pit below start of 13 bolt bipedal traverse - rather slanted, large ongoing rift glimpsed below. very good.
;QM2 A bipedalpassage.3 - Very good. 50m+ (?) deep pit below end of 13 bolt bipedal traverse. best approched via station 4 (?) and looks ok to rig. May connect to first deep pit.
;QM3 C bipedalpassage.1 - Poor c lead, across thin rock bridge over abyss (!) leads to blind aven, but small tube for thin person on left.
@@ -122,7 +124,7 @@ real content replaces template text):
; QM doesn't go anywhere, set the resolution-station to be the same as the
; nearest-station. Include any relevant details of how to find or push the QM in
; the textual description.
-;Serial number grade(A/B/C/D/V/X) nearest-station resolution-station description
+;Serial number grade(A/B/C/D/X) nearest-station resolution-station description
;[ QM1 A surveyname.3 - description of QM ]
;[ QM2 B surveyname.5 - description of QM ]