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@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ Steve Perry,Perry,,,,,1,,,1,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Mike Perryman,Perryman,,,i/mike_perryman.jpg,,1,,,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Nial Peters,Peters,,,i/nialp.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1,,1,1,,,1,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Gareth Phillips,Phillips,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,,1,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Thomas Phillips (Gimp),Phillips,,,i/2023/tom_p.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1
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Thomas Phillips (Tom),Phillips,,,i/2023/tom_p.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1
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Mike Pigram (Mike TS),Pigram,,,i/mts.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Jonty Pine,Pine,1,,i/2022/jonty_pine.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1
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Jana Podbelsek,Podbelsek,1,,i/2023/jana.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1
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@ -321,6 +321,7 @@ Nick Thorne,Thorne,,,l/nickt.htm,,1,1,1,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Julian Todd,Todd,,,l/jtodd.htm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1,1,,1,,,1,,,1,1,,,1,1,,,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,-1,1,1,,,,,,,
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Jon Arne Toft,Toft,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1,,,,
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Phil Townsend,Townsend,,,l/philt.htm,,,,,,1,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Kai Trusson,Trusson,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1
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Frank Tully,Tully,1,,i/frankt.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1,1,1,,1,1,1,1,,1,,,1,1,,1,,,,1,
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Rachel Turnbull,Turnbull,1,,i/rachel.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,,1,1,,,,1,
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Francis Turner,Turner,,,i/francis_turner.jpg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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@ -289,6 +289,14 @@ at about 5pm. Charlotte and Harry were both very grumpy walking back with very h
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 9.0 hours</div>
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2023-07-09a">2023-07-09</div>
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<div class="trippeople"><u>Philip S</u> </div>
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<div class="triptitle">basecamp - Nothing happened today at all</div>
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<p>Nowt, apparently.
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 0.0 hours</div>
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<hr />
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2023-07-10a">2023-07-10</div>
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<div class="trippeople"><u>Philip S</u>,Becka </div>
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<div class="triptitle">basecamp - Becka arriving </div>
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<div class="trippeople"><u>Phil S</u>,Will</div>
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<div class="triptitle">plateau - Garlic and reflectors </div>
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<p>At the col, Will, Philip and ? followed Philip B's col-to-garlic GPS track. Somebody else was with us (memory hazy, is this true? [correct later editorially]). All OK until we hit the hill in the middle where we followed cairns instead of the GPS track, and got in a bit of a mess leaving the hill and getting to HC. (Found an isolated reflector which seemed to just be confusing.) And getting away from HC towards Garlic, but once on the hunter's track it was easy to follow the green paint all the way to Garlic cave.
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<p>At the col, Will, Philip and ? followed Philip B's col-to-garlic GPS track. Somebody else was with us (memory hazy, is this true? [correct later
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editorially]). All OK until we hit the hill in the middle where we followed cairns instead of the GPS track, and got in a bit of a mess leaving the
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hill and getting to HC. (Found an isolated reflector which seemed to just be confusing.) And getting away from HC towards Garlic, but once on the
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hunter's track it was easy to follow the green paint all the way to Garlic cave.
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<p>At Garlic, Will and I were disturbed to find a complete absence of teabags or instant coffee so we made a pot of instant custard which we shared with great enjoyment while we appreciated the marvellous ambience of the bivvy. Will's ankles were troubling him (he had carried a big pack up to (Garlic) whereas I was still a bit sprightly (but this would change later) having carried nothing at all.
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<p>At Garlic, Will and I were disturbed to find a complete absence of teabags or instant coffee so we made a pot of instant custard which we shared
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with great enjoyment while we appreciated the marvellous ambience of the bivvy. Will's ankles were troubling him (he had carried a big pack up to
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(Garlic) whereas I was still a bit sprightly (but this would change later) having carried nothing at all.
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<p>Leaving Will to recover a bit before his return to TopCamp (see another logbook entry for the consequences of this), I returned back to HC, the col and the carpark leaving garlic at ~16:00 and arriving col ~19:00 and carpark ~20:00 where Jana very kindly collected me in her car.
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<p>Leaving Will to recover a bit before his return to TopCamp (see another logbook entry for the consequences of this), I returned back to HC, the col
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and the carpark leaving garlic at ~16:00 and arriving col ~19:00 and carpark ~20:00 where Jana very kindly collected me in her car.
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<p>The trip back was meant to be a re-cairning and reflectoring trip, the main purpose of me going up there. But the late start, and general slowness and multiple failures at route-finding meant that time for re-cairning and building intermediate cairns was strictly limited. Following a GPS track is really very difficult, if not impossible. My GPS was OsmAnd running on a Pixel2 and this was totally inadequate: losing signal, stopping track recording, jumping and general uselessness. It seemed fine at base, but the cliffs and uncertain track-following effectively killed it. (Yes we had essentials.gpx too, and a Silva compass).
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<p>The trip back was meant to be a re-cairning and reflectoring trip, the main purpose of me going up there. But the late start, and general slowness
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and multiple failures at route-finding meant that time for re-cairning and building intermediate cairns was strictly limited. Following a GPS track is
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really very difficult, if not impossible. My GPS was OsmAnd running on a Pixel2 and this was totally inadequate: losing signal, stopping track
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recording, jumping and general uselessness. It seemed fine at base, but the cliffs and uncertain track-following effectively killed it. (Yes we had
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essentials.gpx too, and a Silva compass).
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<p>I put 2 or 3 reflectors on the HC-garlic section on the way back, but lost the way getting to HC itself in the last ~50m or so. Struggled to HC, then reflectored a bit until I lost the track again (following cairns not PB's GPS track) and found what I think is a 4th way across the hill which was not bad at all, parallel to the 3 ways already recorded (seen on PB's GPS ) . I did not put any more reflectors as this whole area needs some better decisions on which of the many routes we want to standardise on - and more to the point - I didn't know whether my route would work until I finished it.
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<p>I put 2 or 3 reflectors on the HC-garlic section on the way back, but lost the way getting to HC itself in the last ~50m or so. Struggled to HC,
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then reflectored a bit until I lost the track again (following cairns not PB's GPS track) and found what I think is a 4th way across the hill which was
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not bad at all, parallel to the 3 ways already recorded (seen on PB's GPS ) . I did not put any more reflectors as this whole area needs some better
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decisions on which of the many routes we want to standardise on - and more to the point - I didn't know whether my route would work until I finished it.
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<p>I was a bit hasty on the climb up the cliff (not the same place as the route to topcamp) and faffed a bit there. Coming off the plateau towards that climb could do with a couple more cairns, esp. if there is low visibility. Knee a bit stiff but otherwise fine after 10 hours of walking.
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 0.0 hours</div>
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@ -340,33 +361,54 @@ We went canyoning on a rest day. The "Strubklamm" canyon is located near Saltzbu
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<div class="triptitle">Homecoming - Five and Flying</div>
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<p>
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I managed to steal Oakem away from Harry, Charlotte and Becka just as they were preparing to depart from Top Camp. After a quick breakfast comprised of the previous day's couscous curry, Oakem's watery müsli and promising to take Becka caving sometime we were on our way to the cave.
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I managed to steal Oakem away from Harry, Charlotte and Becka just as they were preparing to depart from Top Camp. After a quick breakfast
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comprised of the previous day's couscous curry, Oakem's watery müsli and promising to take Becka caving sometime we were on our way to the cave.
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</p>
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In return for taking her caving, Becka had promised to teach me how to calibrate Wookey's DistoX. Unfortunately, the Disto was unwilling to connect to the phone and allow itself to be calibrated. Not wanting to be discouraged by this small defeat, Oakem and I followed the the other group into the cave. They were waiting at the top of of <b>Radagast</b>, since the ope had gotten stuck under the boulder at the bottom of the pitch and Charlotte was in the process of getting it unstuck.
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In return for taking her caving, Becka had promised to teach me how to calibrate Wookey's DistoX. Unfortunately, the Disto was unwilling to connect
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to the phone and allow itself to be calibrated. Not wanting to be discouraged by this small defeat, Oakem and I followed the the other group into
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the cave. They were waiting at the top of of <b>Radagast</b>, since the ope had gotten stuck under the boulder at the bottom of the pitch and
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Charlotte was in the process of getting it unstuck.
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</p>
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The entrance series took us about an hour and fifteen, with about as much more to <b>Swiss Cheese</b> (PT10). From there we traversed for about 50 metres before dropping into <b>Salamander Queen II</b>. A small stash of rigging equipment and food (for a possible future camping trip) had been left there by the previous team. Following the rope took us into a respectably sized traverse (<b>German Engineering</b>), the first pitch into <b>War of Attrition</b>, which is where Chi and me had stopped bolting on Friday.
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The entrance series took us about an hour and fifteen, with about as much more to <b>Swiss Cheese</b> (PT10). From there we traversed for about 50
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metres before dropping into <b>Salamander Queen II</b>. A small stash of rigging equipment and food (for a possible future camping trip) had been
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left there by the previous team. Following the rope took us into a respectably sized traverse (<b>German Engineering</b>), the first pitch into <b>
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War of Attrition</b>, which is where Chi and me had stopped bolting on Friday.
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</p>
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<p>
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I rigged another 5m pitch and a traverse that reaches a section about 10 metres long with solid floor that can be comfortably stood on. Here Oakem took over the rigging to give him a chance to practice, as we weren't sure how long we wanted to stay. While placing his first bolt, I was passing the time by throwing rocks down the rift. Noise from the falling and rolling could be heard for about 15 seconds, meaning that whatever is down there must be incredibly deep, possibly large. Oakem's second bolt was a natural anchor, a sling placed around a piece of rock.
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I rigged another 5m pitch and a traverse that reaches a section about 10 metres long with solid floor that can be comfortably stood on. Here Oakem
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took over the rigging to give him a chance to practice, as we weren't sure how long we wanted to stay. While placing his first bolt, I was passing
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the time by throwing rocks down the rift. Noise from the falling and rolling could be heard for about 15 seconds, meaning that whatever is down
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there must be incredibly deep, possibly large. Oakem's second bolt was a natural anchor, a sling placed around a piece of rock.
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</p>
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<p>
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This is where Oakem discovered <b>Salamander Queen</b>. As I couldn't immediately get to him, he demonstrated the size of the chamber by throwing down a rock. The expected sound did not arrive for an uncomfortably long time. Not daring to bolt it himself, I had the honours. I placed one bolt just before the drop, to serve as a backup to the natural and the first bolt. Then, leaning over the drop, I placed two more bolts, meant for a Y-hang, a section of wall hanging over the pitch. The large pitch was rigged on a 10mm rope labelled 80m.
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This is where Oakem discovered <b>Salamander Queen</b>. As I couldn't immediately get to him, he demonstrated the size of the chamber by throwing
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down a rock. The expected sound did not arrive for an uncomfortably long time. Not daring to bolt it himself, I had the honours. I placed one bolt
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just before the drop, to serve as a backup to the natural and the first bolt. Then, leaning over the drop, I placed two more bolts, meant for a
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Y-hang, a section of wall hanging over the pitch. The large pitch was rigged on a 10mm rope labelled 80m.
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</p>
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<p>
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I abseiled down, but as I was about 3 metres away from the floor, I ran out of rope (thank you end-of-the-rope knot). The wall facing me was not good enough for a re-belay, so we went for a mid-rope knot bypass. Not having had the foresight to bring extra rope (we did not expect the pitch to be longer than 80m), Oakem clipped a short 11m onto the rope I was hanging from and let it slide down. The impact on my elbow was pretty painful.
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I abseiled down, but as I was about 3 metres away from the floor, I ran out of rope (thank you end-of-the-rope knot). The wall facing me was not
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good enough for a re-belay, so we went for a mid-rope knot bypass. Not having had the foresight to bring extra rope (we did not expect the pitch to
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be longer than 80m), Oakem clipped a short 11m onto the rope I was hanging from and let it slide down. The impact on my elbow was pretty painful.
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</p>
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<p>
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When Oakem arrived at the bottom, we wandered around <b>Salamander Queen</b> to see what we had found. A small stream runs from on end to the other, mostly under the bounders that had accumulated on the chamber floor over the ages. We were unable to explore the downstream end of the chamber as there was a climb too large for either of us to attempt. Content with what we had found, we decided to turn around and head for the surface.
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When Oakem arrived at the bottom, we wandered around <b>Salamander Queen</b> to see what we had found. A small stream runs from on end to the
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other, mostly under the bounders that had accumulated on the chamber floor over the ages. We were unable to explore the downstream end of the
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chamber as there was a climb too large for either of us to attempt. Content with what we had found, we decided to turn around and head for the
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surface.
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</p>
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<p>
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We left <b>Salamander Queen</b> at 16:50, about 10 minutes before we originally had wanted to be at the surface. When you are about to discover a chamber of this size, staying in for some extra time seems to be worth it. We reached <b>Gromit</b> at 18:53 and the surface at 20:00, just in time for the sunset. At the surface, Will was waiting for us. The poor man had been lost on the plateau all day. This story shall be told in his own logbook entry.
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We left <b>Salamander Queen</b> at 16:50, about 10 minutes before we originally had wanted to be at the surface. When you are about to discover a
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chamber of this size, staying in for some extra time seems to be worth it. We reached <b>Gromit</b> at 18:53 and the surface at 20:00, just in time
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for the sunset. At the surface, Will was waiting for us. The poor man had been lost on the plateau all day. This story shall be told in his own
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logbook entry.
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</p>
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<div class="timeug">T/U: 9.5 hours</div>
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