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<center><font size=-1>CTS 84.1642: <b>Der Schlaz</b> Heft 42, February 1984,
pp 36-45<br>"Schwarzmooskogelforschungen Herbst 1983"</font>
<h2>Exploration on the Schwarzmooskogel, autumn 1983</h2>
<b lang="de">Franz Lindenmayr</b></center>
<p>Following the discovery of the gigantic Schneevulkanhalle in the
Schwarzmooskogel/Totes Gebirge by some Nuremberg cavers and myself,
intensive further work took place in this area in the autumn. The results are
so important that we must yet expect big surprises in the next few years.
<p>In mid-September 1983, Wilfried Lorenz undertook a weekend tour together
with three other cavers from Nuremberg in order to photograph and, to look
for new continuations. Straight away, they had success. At the deepest point
of the Schneevulkanhalle, that is accessible only over another
30-m-Schr&auml;gabstieg over partially very steep ice, they determined that
here was not end but that the cold wind prowled through a narrow open split
between roof and floor. The soft infill was scratched with everything
possible in order to slip through. Luckily, the silted up route was only
approximately 2 m long. A small chamber immediately opens behind it with a
flat clay floor. The continuation now leads into an upward tube in the white
limestone. Untouched stalagmites line the way. Baby shaft-areas force one to
scramble up and down. The further one comes up, the more the dimensions
decrease. Then, the character changes again. A descent into a Canyon leads
into a water-worn cleft, that must be climbed on the other side again. A
horizontal walk, that led into big chambers and foyers, down here. The
Nurembergers turned back here.
<p>The next trip took place on the 23-25 September. Wilfried had told me on
the telephone of the success of the last tour and me with it quite hotly
done. We had gone away in August convinced that there was no continuation
from the chamber. The Loserh&uuml;tte was arranged as venue.
<p>From Munich, Oliver Pirner, Reinhard Wagner and I came, from Nuremberg,
Wilfried Lorenz, Monika and Gerhard Lorenz, Reinhard Lemmer, Heinz Stenzel,
Bernhard Nerreter, Christine Wieloch and two further Nuremberger (?). We from
Munich had gone to bed long ago as, shortly after midnight, our Nuremberg
friends opened the door to the Loserh&uuml;tte situated so far from our
everyday-world.
<p>The next morning, it was still dark as we got up; the prepared breakfast
was eaten and backpacks prepared for departure still in the twilight and the
sun rose over the Trisselwand as we arrived at the Loserparkplatz. A white
fog-layer hung over the valley, above which the Dachstein massif towered like
a mountain-monument. Our caravan moved off, but the further we were removed
from the lonesome parking place, the more and more we split into small
groups. Particularly three of us, Wilfried, Reinhard and a young caver from
the Frankfurt area, had heavy packs to carry. They wanted to stay at the cave
the following week as well and do more exploration. Oliver and I did another
short excursion at the turn-off of the St&ouml;gerweg. I wanted to find the
entrances to the Stellerweg-/Schnellzugh&ouml;hlensystem, that at present
with its 4 km length and almost 900 m depth is still the biggest cave on the
Schwarzmooskogel. Since I had only very vague ideas of the exact location, we
promptly left the path at the wrong place. Below it, amongst the bunde, we
found a shaft that appeared to drop into a snow-filled chamber. Without rope,
nothing was to be done there however. I still had in memory that the
Schnellzugh&ouml;hle entrance should lie approximately 100 m below the
St&ouml;gerweg, with its railway-tunnel-like opening. Therefore, we climbed
down the hillside over several steep steps overgrown with grass and larches.
Left from us, there seemed to be a rocky doline. I crossed over a steep
grass-strip and stood before a triangular cave-entrance. Cold wind moved the
big plants in the entrance. The passage had typical Schwarzmooskogel
characteristics. The roof is an upside-down "U", that runs out into two
side-walls of about 2 m. At the ground, fine-rubble lay, showing no tracks of
previous exploration. Was this a new cave we had found? Upon the
St&ouml;gerweg, we soon came upon two strongly blowing caves, one of which
was the well known Windloch (1623/32). To the Stellerwegh&ouml;hle itself, we
have still found no way.
<p>Our comrades had already vanished in the bunde-wilderness of the
Schwarzmooskogels long ago as we reached our two left-behind backpacks again.
At the "White Nipple", we had caught up with the others again a half hour
later. Some of those had got lost on the long grass-strip and had chosen the
wrong way. By coincidence, they had arrived at the third of the big caves in
this actually only quite small area, Schwabenschacht. At the entrance, they
still found the luxuriant waste-tracks of last big research-days. It should
be approximately 350 m deep.
<p>At the main entrance into the Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle, breakfast was
first done before heading down to our new discovery. Ice-screws came into
play to anchor the descent-rope into the Schneevulkanhalle for the first
time. Everything proceeded smoothly. I immediately headed with Reinhard and
Oliver on the newly discovered passage. A second rope had to first be wound
about an ice-formation, then the way was free to start over the almost
vertical ice-wall. The ice stopped at the bottom. We could strip the
crampons. A tiny oval at the most rearmost chamber-side, from which cold air
exuded, seemed to be the continuation. Before getting through, hard digging
had however still to be achieved with hands and feet. Beyond the Schlufes,
was a small chamber with untrodden mud floor, then a beautiful white passage,
followed by a water-worn shaft zone. I followed Reinhard, who had climbed
down the opposite wall already. The scramble downward was easier than it had
looked initially. I stood on gravel-floor and had just wanted to climb upward
again as the strange sound of a falling stone penetrated from below. Another
cavity was under the ground, on which I stood exactly, maybe ? As a
precaution I stepped quickly aside and lifted some stones from the rubble
floor. Actually, a black nothingness yawned below there. Before I dug
further, I first tied myself to the protection-rope, that Reinhard had sent
down from above. A quarter hour work was necessary in order to throw the once
"solid" shaft-floor into the depths and, to open the way downward. Where,
nobody yet knows at the moment. Since we had no rigging gear with us, the
continuation remains unexplored. The main route continued on spacious. A
roomy chamber with much collapse-debris followed, then a Canyon passage with
snow-white walls and tawny changes in colour. Towards the end, the passage
gradually becomes smaller, finishing with much caollapse. We are presumably
not at all far from the overlying surface here.
<p>Reinhard and I turned back somewhat disappointed. On the way, we wanted
still to examine all small side-passages, in order to be sure that we had not
to come back. A magnificent Schluf branched off perpendicular to the main
passage. With difficulty, we got out all the stones, fought us so onward, but
in the end however, I only poked around with the legs in a minutely small
hole. There was only a small possibility. With the tubes, another low Schluf
to the right also branched off. I crawled after 5 m in and already, I could
stand in the parallel-gap up. Steeply, it went continually larger nascent
split in it with rich Sinter downward. The ground was finally missing because
it led into a small area. Reinhard now climbed first, installed a ropesling
in two threads and climbed down. I followed him. The following, we could
follow further steeply downward pulling passage only few metres because it
became noticeably more vertical and we had no further gear with us. Only a
tempting gaze in a horizontal walk below was possible. We turned back.
<p>Going back in the Schneevulkanhalle, we heard about the undertakings of
our comrades. They were immediately into the side-rift beside the route we
had climbed and came out in a 20 m high Canyon, that was difficult to
explore. The photo-group now began to light up the giant-chamber with PF100,
the light bulb-sized flashbulbs. Meanwhile, Bernhards and another Nuremberger
descended into the second side-rift in the ice, that we had ignored. The
result, that they brought back, was cataclysmic. A 10m ice down-climb led to
the floor of the chamber. Along a 50 m long ice wall, they came into a big
ice-free walk with several turn-offs. And in this walk, they found the
inscription "H&uuml;tter 1938". Therefore people had been here before, and we
had found only the continuation of the Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle in the
end. Their report was especially exciting over a strong bewetterten (I think
this means be-weathered, which I understand to mean "blowing like a bugger")
side-passage, in which they could descend no longer because of shortage of
materials.
<p>We wanted to spend the night in two groups - the bivouac-group at the cave
entrance and the fresh air-group, that wanted to sleep somewhere above the
portal between the bunde. The weather got worse visibly in the night, a
strong thunderstorm closed in at two o'clock. Lightnings lightened the black
night, that awakened shortly subsequent thunders, also the deepest sleeper
on. It began to rain hard. Within a very short time, our fresh air-group was
gathered under the cave roof. By huddling closer, all 12 found accommodation,
number 12 however geisterte still around. The rainwater needed 5 m heavy
rock-parcel of shares over us had seeped 3 lessons until it through that
approximately. Then began a line along it first to dribble, then later to
stream. Wide drip-positions became active. Slowly, no one had a dry sleeping
place any more. We had to get up gezwungenerma&szlig;en. Reinhard pushed
home, the others affiliated, 9 persons stumbled in the streaming rain over
slippery limestone pavement back to civilisation. 3 remained behind, they
erected a tent-tarpaulin, that should offer them some protection for the rest
of the week. Hardly was the main-group back on the parking place, when the
clouds vanished, the skies cleared, the sun shone and a one-week fair-weather
period began.
<p>Wilfried's group measured the passage into the Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle
in the subsequent time, the outside-surveying extended us known
extreme-points of the system to that, the Lamperlh&ouml;hle found in August,
that is only one receipt knowner long ago into the
Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle, used as has turned out later, the "shaft under
the larch", that still gives occasion to big hopes, tried to find the upper
entrance of the snow-cone of the Schneevulkanhalle and discovered the
"dome-cave" with it and finished this week with an ascent of the Dachstein.
<p>Gradually, the message of the discovery of the giant chamber seeped
through in the Schwarzmooskogel on and on. It was as one has thrown a stone
into a motionless lake, that now evoked ever bigger circles. Originally also
Wilfried wanted to go too again, but it became nothing with him/it from it.
Willi Hermann and Herbert Wimmer wanted to come along this time, furthermore
still Oliver Pirner and Mario Tauchers, a caver from the Ausseer country
living in Munich. Was from the 21 up to the 23 October 1983 this time.
<p>In the evening at the Loserh&uuml;tte, we were at first the only guests,
and were allowed to sit in the pleasant kitchen. Later, two more inebriated
Ausseers came up. Finally, Karl Gaisberger visited us. He is our most
important contact there and I told him in detail about the latest stand of
the explorations. We kept at it until 2:30 in the morning.
<p>It became only a short night, because at 6 o'clock, we got up again. A
terrible skull-drone and a disgusting nausea in the stomach of the
Zirbengeist and the sumptuously enjoyed beer hindered the energy not only
with me. The wonderful autumn-weather was only perceived by some of us by an
inner fog. Two Ausseer caver-comrades came up in the dawn, Hans Segl and Egon
Pfusterer. They accompanied us into the Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle in order
to see the new parts. At ten o'clock, we stood in front of the bivouac-place
in the entrance of the Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle, made breakfast first
powerful once again in order to gain strengths again and marched to entrance
"D" then further down. Meanwhile, we had found out that the notorious
water-problem through the utilization of the snow-occurrences in the portal
2, nickname Elefantena. . . . pierce to solve well was. At noon we put all
pots, filled with snow, into the sun and in the evening we had usable water.
<p>At the snow volcano in the cave, Mario attracted attention that daylight
fell in from above. He climbed through a hole upward and came back again some
time later. He had succeeded in advancing to a daylight shaft with
perpendicular walls drawing up towards heaven. To get out was not possible
however. From the Schneevulkanhalle, all those that saw for the first time,
were very much impressed. I felt drawn equally further however. Finally this
time, our goal was the shaft leading into the unknown in the passages that we
had approached last time. Altogether, three ropes were necessary in order to
reach the starting point for the new ground. Oliver first beat a spit flatly
before Mario with short, fast hits put down the final belay-point. I had the
honor to go ahead. A tiny carbide flame, that I had not once been able to
ignite again, because I had no lighter with it, and my single illuminations
were an almost burned out torch. 8 m vertically down, it went into a
horizontal passage with gravel floor. Straight ahead, [unclear if the
passage ends 10m ahead in collapse blocks, or if the passage passes 10m
through collapse blocks] to be transferred by big collapse blocks seemed
according to the gang 10 m. I could see a low Schluf-passage behind me, with
a mud floor. The funnel was exciting directly before me. I slid down and
removed some pebbles with it. They clattered through a small hole in the
floor and were only to be heard after some seconds again as they hit much
further below. A gaze down was possible only after some digging. One pitch 8
m diameters showing big shaft leads in the depth vertically. One stands on
wedged boulders and verbackendem conglomerate, that are jammed in above this
abyss. The further I opened the narrow hole, the more unwell I felt. I would
most like to fix myself with a Jumar to the rope coming from above
eingeh&auml;ngt in order to be secured a little. It would be possible that
the lot would suddenly all collapse and onewould next stop 50 m down. Because
of these problems, I abandoned this position soon and turned back instead. On
the way back, I noticed for the fisrt time the many dead spidersin the
tube-passages which give this zone the name Spinnen-Friedhof (web-graveyard).
<p>Herbert and I did in the end, as had left others the cave finished long
ago already again, still some receptions of the hollow out-ice already almost
completely reduced, only dully acting now and only left as it was already
deep night the hole outdoors. Nevertheless, it was not dark. The full moon
shone so brightly that a way back was possible without shining carbide-lamp.
<p>At the bivouac, we noticed that Willi Hermann was missing. Was he still in
the narrow entrance-schluf of entrance "D", but as he/it already completely
through was and a step of 1.50 m hinabgem&uuml;&szlig;ts would only have, did
he/it apparently discover first that gets lost a broken rib he/it he/it
itself from earlier ago? In the night, to look for somebody in this terrain,
can let remain one. He/it gives simply much too many holes in those one,
without somebody will find one for long time can vanish. Herbert finally
noticed that Willi's backpack was no longer there. He was apparently also,
like like our three Ausseer comrades, on the way back. Later still I found
two small papers with a message from him so that we need worry ourselves no
more.
<p>In the next morning the last three of us, Oliver, Herbert and I, did
another tour into the Schneevulkanhalle. I wanted to go down over the
magnificent ice-wall at the chamber edge into the well known parts of the
Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle this time. With two ice-screws, that are fixed
into thick ice, the belay of the short rope is no problem. The descent with
crampons was more pleasure than danger. Below one can immediately take off
the crampons again and can continue without them. Between the high
facet-structured ice-wall and the light rock at the chamber edge has melted
out a wide walk, through which one progresses easily. An ice-tongue like of a
glacier has pushed itself into the old passages full of coarse collapse
blocks. The tunnel ascends easily. Before it leads into a chamber with two
big continuations, there is a branch off to the right: a low passage,
partially filled with small bits of rock. A powerful current of air was to be
felt. It no longer continued after few metres. A shaft opened. It looked good
and didn't seem to be too deep. Its exploration, however, didn't seem
harmless because many loose stones, that already fell with the smallest
movement downward, lay around. Lack of equipment, time and motivation decided
us to postpone this work.
<p>About 2 o'clock in the afternoon we three first packed up, then ascended
the steep, smooth limestone walls, squeezed through the alleys in the bunde
to the White Nipple. Then up and down again to the St&ouml;gerweg. The rest
of the way up to the parking place seemed interminable to me today. All at
once, we met Willi. He had needed the whole day for the way back. Again and
again, he had become confused, had had to fight through the green bunde with
difficulty. In the end, in the light of the declining sun, we enjoyed on the
terrace before the Loserh&uuml;tte a heavily earned, newly tapped half beer.
<p>From the 11th to the 13th November, our last tour took place for this
year. Originally, we wanted to set off only as quite a small team, Reinhard
Wagner, Wilfried Lorenz, Manfred Sch&auml;tzl and I. In the end however, it
was 10 cavers from Munich and Nuremberg and with further 10 Ausseer cavers,
we met at the cave. The loneliness and silence, which earlier had
distinguished this area, seemed unfortunately to yield to the noisy
conditions.
<p>The former "paradise" is slowly suffering crowd impact. The most barbaric
intervention, if the piece of information is right, was caused by Gunther
Limberger. He has gone along the steep track marked with small cairns and has
decorated the rock with hand-sized blots and half-metre-long arrows at
countless positions with red spray-paint. All those who remembered the
original conditions, were shocked.
<p>I have immediately responded and here and there with any lying around rock
laboriously waymarked some of these points piece by piece again. The Ffft
from the spray can is rectifiable only with tenfold expenditure again.
Nevertheless, such a rarely visited zone rewards such commitment.
<p>In the background, there is also the fear that the
Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle could turn into a commercialised cave one day.
In the end there are quite substantial financial incentives: if there was a
unique sight to see above there, that would make attractive new publicity for
the Loser-Panoramastra&szlig;e. Hopefully, this will never happen.
<p>The goal of this tour was new exploration and surveying. Last time, I had
climbed a rock-wall above the way back from entrance "d" to the main
entrance. Crossing a 50m grass strip, I found the previously unlocated mighty
shaft above the Schneevulkanhalle. This new shaft, entrance "e", was our
first goal. Near the descent to the level of the main entrance, and, to save
the subsequent ascent, I tried to find a way for our group above the
vertically falling "cave-pit". The result was staggering. Apparently none of
us has ever crossed here. Immediately, we came upon a "passageway-cave", an 8
m high rift, that leads after 15 m on the other side into a rocky doline
again, and presumably represents just the rest of a chamber formerly closed.
In the middle of the passageway was no more floor - a clean shaft with
current of air leads here into the depth. Presumably, it also leads into the
underlying main-walk of the Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle.
<p>The steep terrain forced a detour upward where it became flatter. All
difficult bits could be overcome easily over wide rock-ribbons. In a 10m deep
depression, grass-tufts moved in the wind. Was there a hidden cave opening
there? I climbed down and stood in front of the next big portal, that leads
in into a shaft. Only 30m further was a Canyon, that was also draughting and,
to judge from thrown stones, leads profoundly down. 3 new caves in 10
minutes.
<p>At the big entrance shaft, a right jam occurred since all wanted to go
down at once. Wilfried and me wurlte it too much. We decided rather to do a
prospecting walk in the surroundings. Only 50 m north we found the first
shaft, possessing a 7&times;7m diameter, with a rock-pedestal in its 10m
depth.
<p>Left past this, approximately 30 m further, at the foot of a rock-wall, I
found an ice-plug. A small hole had remained opne between the boulders over
it. I waited first for Wilfried so that we could down-climb into the steeply
descending area together. Several Canyons lead together here and seemed to
approach a funnel with the chamber-rear wall. I crawled down, pushed some
rocks aside, saw a blocked Scluf and felt the easy current of air. As the
digging became too arduous, I gave up. Above was a horizontal crawlway.
Wilfried crawled first and where several even smaller inlets came together,
came to a junction. We had penetrated into one of the many small
feeder-system, that exist at the Schwarzmooskogel in droves. We found a
broken off stalagmite-stump here in the untouched mud floor as well. This
small cave was barely 50 m overall length.
<p>Further, our cave search went. I headed to the big headwall of the
depression to the foot of the Vorderer Schwarzmooskogel. There were small
dark openings, to be seen there. Unfortunately, they all are completely
plugged with rubble. In a projecting ridge, a 8 m wide and 2 m high cave
portal overlooked the depression.
<p>A tunnel led me on. Downward, it went into a 10 m wide and 20 m long
chamber. At the farther end, daylight entered through a small round opening
again. The tunnel turned to the left and finished 20 m further with a
collapse, that was up to the roof. At the deepest point of the chamber, I
finally found a small shaft between the boulders, that led in stooping walk
perpendicular to the previous system. Since I was alone, I omitted rather
further ventures and turned back.
<p>On the other side of the spur in which the "Harnischtunnel" lies, I found
the presumable continuation of the main-passage, a small chamber of 10 m
diameter. Only few metres away is the "Himmelsloch", a cave-ruin with a big
roof-window. It became time to turn back again. Deep pits, overhanging
rock-walls and bunde-thicket, however, made it rather difficult, to come back
to the entrance "e", the big shaft.
<p>The comrades had vanished in the depth of the shaft long ago. Only
Wilfried and I were still there. The weather was so splendid that we wanted
first to connect our finds to the overall surface survey of the
Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle. At the shaft with the big entrance opening, a
thread was quickly found for the 20m rope. I went first and stood 11 m deeper
on the extensive shaft-floor. I saw from the left the in-gleam of daylight
from a nearby located shaft. A smooth bedding plane formed the inclined cave
roof. A shaft led a further 15 m into the depth. Wilfried now climbed in
front and came in into a high chamber. A walking sized passage leads from the
foot of the shaft, but finishes unfortunately after few metres at a puddle.
After the black scrolls, that lie around on the cave floor, the cave is now
called "Schwarzlaubh&ouml;hle".
<p>Also both the other caves were linked by us to the overall survey. In the
"Harnischtunnel", we descended into the side-passage and came upon a
remarkably cold chamber with ice floor and ice formations. Unfortunately,
none of the short Schlufs, that branch off everywhere, led anywhere. The
surveying yielded barely over 50 m passage length.
<p>It already became dark as we finally climbed into the
Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle. The "K&ouml;nigschacht" was still to survey,
and we immediately began with it. The 30m tape was enough to reach the first
snow-heel exactly. From there it goes 10 m, past a big round snow-hole, down
as far as the entry-point into the Schneevulkanhalle, once again.
<p>In the chamber, we met an enthusiastic Oliver. He told what had been
discovered in the meantime by the others. The small shaft in the old part of
the Schwarzmooskogelh&ouml;hle had led in into a huge continuation. About
these explorations, Reinhard will tell in an individual report for the
SCHLAZ. In the end Wilfried and I did some more recordings of the big ice
wall and then left through the Schluf out of the cave again, heavily laden
with three big sleeping bags.
<p>What greeted us outdoors, was a tragedy. Red points and a 50 cm long red
arrow, an Austrian sausage-paper and, as coronation of the whole
unpleasantness so to speak, we found right at the entrance the discarded,
almost empty paint can. In the cave, I still had wrapped up chewing gum in
silver-paper and black shoelace found long.
<p>Also our "relic", the wooden Brennerbeserl behind the entrance schluf, has
caught it. It is away.
<p>We had always taken the trouble to change so little as possible in this
magnificent cave to practice "soft cave exploration". Unfortunately some of
our caver-colleagues have not probably stuck to it and have graphically shown
how one can desecrate a nature-monument in the shortest time. Moaning
achieves nothing. I think more of the effect of models. Therefore I have
simply gathered everything up again and have taken it away. Maybe, also the
taker of the Brennerbeserl returns this again. It is a unique document for
the exploration-history of the cave!
<p>In the evening in the bivouac it was very close-fitting. Ten bodies sought
and finally found a roost.
<p>The next morning, we split into 3 groups. Oliver led a small group to the
shaft by the path to the Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle in the surroundings of
the White Nipple. Unfortunately, there was no success there, since no
continuations were to be found below. Wilfried measured with a group at the
surface the connection portal 2 to entrance "e".
<p>I led Reinhard, Manfred and a Nuremberger to the Lamperlh&ouml;hle.
Reinhard first put in another spit belay. Then, the way was open down the 25m
pitch that leads directly into the South-part of the
Schwarzmooskogeleish&ouml;hle. Since the time was short, we didn't hang
abround much her but immediately strove toward on the continuation found by
me in August in the choked parts. Perceptibly, the cold air came out from the
low, mostly rubble-filled passage. We crawled up to the shaft. The rope was
fastened to a thread. Reinhard climbs down first to an intermediate ledge 5 m
deeper. I follow. Another shaft, that leads down into a big area, down here.
Reinhard climbs to a thread over the demolition, installs a long green sling
there as rebelay, and clips on the descent rope with a karabiner, further it
goes. First Reinhard, then I, then the others.
<p>A rubble-filled chamber with several small holes at the sides is reached.
A Canyon seems to continue. Unfortunately, all continuations finish after few
metres at smooth rock-walls. One beautiful discovery still awaits. The
aggressive water has so etched out the fossils from the rocks that small ones
now protrude several centimetres on some rock and in other places are
recognisable as almost complete mussels. We retreat again.
<p>About 12: we leave the bivouac-place at the cave-entrance, 1&frac12; hours
later we are at the parking place. About 2, we sit at the beer in the
Loserh&uuml;tte. Karl Gaisberger is also there. We talk with him about how
exploration should continue. He had the feeling, we were not keeping the
Ausseer cavers adequately informed of our undertakings, So it was agreed,
that each trip would be reported to him in future at least by telephone,
phone 06153/2262. We had always made that written until now. These
communications seem to be in the club of the Ausseer comrades somewhere,
however locked up internally. Wilfried received the original-plan of the cave
so that he can supplement the new discoveries. Until we came, the cave was
approximately 1600 m long; today, it is found to be 2.5 km, the dream-goal is
the giant-cave.
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