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<div class="inner" id="msg_279195"><strong>Caving in the Schwarzmooskogelhohle System, Loser Plateau, Austria with CUCC, 19762017</strong><br /><br />Since 1976, CUCC have been visiting the Loser Plateau near Bad Aussee, Austria, to explore the Schwarzmooskogelhohle cave system. As of 2016, the cave is now over 120km long and over 1000m deep, making it one of the largest in Europe. The expedition is one of the largest and longest running student expeditions in the UK, and is one of the leading training grounds for students new to alpine caving to learn how to explore new alpine caves safely and scientifically.<br /><br /><img src="IMG_1018.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>Frank Tully striding heroically towards Top Camp, with the Loser Plateau and Braunenzinkel in the background looking out towards the Dachstein Plateau in the far distance. Photo: Chris Densham.</em><br /><br />There are a huge number of known entrances to the system, but there are four which stand out as key to understanding the history of exploration. The first major breakthrough came in 1983, when an entrance called Stellerweg (or entrance number 115/201) was pushed deep to find a sump close to the altitude of the resurgence in Alt Aussee lake, suggesting little potential for further exploration at this depth. Therefore, exploration began to focus on finding higher entrances to the cave system. In 1988, Kaninchenhoehle (161) was found and thus began extensive horizontal discoveries along with vertical gain, suggesting that connecting up entrances across the system was a viable exploratory goal. After potential from 161 began to wane, a new entrance was duly found: Steinbruckenhoehle (204), in 1999. In 2001 a new deep level called the Subway was pushed to find a streamway called Razordance a rarity in this cave system. In that year, we also established our current top camp bivvy site beneath a natural stone bridge next to one of the entrances to 204. Five years later in 2006, the entrance 258 was found, which led to a cave now known as Tunnocksschacht. This cave has been described as the corporation of Schwarzmooskogel because it keeps absorbing the smaller caves around it and has so far been key to unlocking a number of phreatic levels in the system. <br /><br />One of these caves was Balkonhoehle, which was re-discovered in 2014 and has been a focus of exploration alongside Tunnocks ever since (it was connected to Tunnocks in 2015). Recent exploration in Tunnocks has been focused on going to deeper phreatic levels in the cave, along a nylon highway of ropes down pitches such as String Theory, Procrastination, Number of the Beast, Inferno and Kraken, which have all been discovered in the last 5 years. In 2015, exploration of leads at the bottom of Kraken was becoming a bit much with 1520 hour trips required if going on the bounce. Therefore, in 2016 it was decided that we would erect a camp in an excellent sandy site close to some water at the base of Kraken pitch (around 650m). From here, exploration of deep phreatic levels proved extremely successful, with over 3.5km being found over the course of 7 camping trips (typically lasting 48 hours, though one ended up lasting longer than intended after an incident dubbed Indian Rope Trick). One of these discoveries was an unprecedentedly large river passage ramping steeply down to a depth of -903m, and which is still not fully explored. Students made up a contingent of every camping trip.&nbsp; <br /><br /><img src="iZwW03zl.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>Wob Rotson, Katey Bender and Chris Densham at Underground Camp. Photo: Ian Peachey.</em><br /><br /><strong>The plan for this year<br /></strong><br />2017 holds a lot of promise for extensive vertical and horizontal discoveries in the cave system, and will run for 6 weeks from 9th July20th August. We have a roughly triple-headed plan of attack for this year:<br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Go back to Camp Kraken and push the deep leads. This is the main objective of the expedition, as we left the camp
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<div class="inner" id="msg_281394"><span class="bbc_u"><strong>On Calories.</strong></span><br /><br />Last year, a few days before setting off on a week-long hike, I found myself in a Canadian supermarket weighing up the pros and cons of different energy bars. “Look,” I squealed excitedly to my companion, “this one has almost a THIRD more calories per 100g! YES PLEASE!” “CavingPig,” she laughed, “that&#039;s the exact opposite of what any girl I know would say!”<br /><br />Gender stereotypes aside, eating enough is a hugely important consideration for any sport, and caving expeditions are certainly no exception. When you could be expending upwards of 6000 calories a day, you need to consume as much food as you can force down, and preferably in a form thats incredibly simple to prepare. Haute cuisine is the last thing on your mind when youre feeling absolutely shagged after a 16-hour surveying mission, but in a bivouac two hours hike from the nearest roadhead (or an underground camp several hours journey further on from that), chips with everything just isnt an option lightweight and compact is very much the order of the day. Throw into the mix the fact that as a student expedition, were on a budget as tight as a hipsters trousers whats a hard-up undergrad to do?<br /><br /><a href="WDJryZ.html" class="bbc_link" target="_blank"><img src="35870256541_63744b937c.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></a><br /><br />Having enough to eat, and therefore enough energy, is our primary consideration. If this was all we had to worry about, wed be buying every supermarket in Cambridge out of lard. High calorific value, incredibly cheap, you can burn it for heat and light at night or underground, or even spread it on your skin for insulation if youre contemplating a dip in one of the beautiful but frigid Alpine lakes that abound in the area. However, there are good reasons why a 100% lard diet is not the best choice (and not just because there are a few vegetarians on the trip).<br /><br />Plenty of carbohydrate in your Top Camp diet is essential to replenish glycogen stores and stave off the onset of fatigue after a hard days surveying porridge, couscous, noodles, tortellini and instant mashed potato are our Top Camp staples. For the past couple of years, weve received pesto as a sponsorship item, which provides easy calories and makes pretty much anything its added to hugely more exciting. A lot of our calories come from boil-in-the-bag curries although not the lightest thing to cart up a mountainside, these are quick to cook, cheap, and theres a nice wide range of them to stave off food boredom. They also provide some fat and protein, which can otherwise be slightly more difficult to come by at Top Camp (apart, of course, from in the ubiquitous flapjack). We tend to take the approach of “buy all vegetarian, then if you want meat/cheese you can add that yourself” so you&#039;ll often see dried sausages and hard cheese being fiercely guarded by their owners.<br /><br /><a href="Wg8bqo.html" class="bbc_link" target="_blank"><img src="35614413750_0f6903bf25.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></a><br /><em>Fierce.</em><br /><br />For the curious, heres a typical day of Top Camps finest gourmet cuisine. Do you have any particular expedition nosh favourites or tips or must-avoids?<br /><br /><span class="bbc_u"><strong>Breakfast</strong></span><br />Instant porridge is a firm favourite. Comes in several flavours, can have syrup/spices added for extra taste sensations. Sprinkle over some optional Choco Muesli for an even wilder ride.<br /><br /><span class="bbc_u"><strong>Second breakfast</strong></span><br />Unless were being super keen and getting in a cheeky Alpine start, I like to make like a hobbit and treat myself to second breakfast. Usually noodles. Often turns into a game of “guess the contents of the package” since the ingredient lists tend to all be in Asian languages I cant read. Instant mashed potato with sponsorship pesto and/
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<div class="inner" id="msg_281597"><strong>Elliott and Katey&#039;s first week on Expo</strong><br /><br />Elliott started the journey to Austria in London on Thursday, July 13th. He then travelled to Braintree to Cambridge to Richmond to Ingleton then to Leeds for the night at mine. Meanwhile I was panic-packing my entire life, moving out of my house and packing for expo all at once. The next morning we left for expo via Cambridge to pick up some survey instruments and Braintree to pick up all the remaining expo food a more challenging prospect than it sounds given that the van was already very full when we set off from Leeds, owing to nearly 1.5km of rope between sponsorship rope, rope wed bought, and kit from the tackle store. <br /><br /><img src="rope.jpg" alt="Loads of rope in Elliott's van" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>Lots and lots of rope. Photo Elliott Smith.</em><br /><br />We finally made it to Dover in time to catch the ferry after the one wed booked, and after an uneventful overnight drive we arrived at base camp around 4pm on Saturday, July 15th.<br /><br />All the rope magically disappeared from the van and everything that wasnt new rapidly disappeared up the hill with the contingent of keen carriers; all the new rope (1km!) rapidly disappeared into the river to soak overnight. Chris Densham turned up about an hour after us so we celebrated the end of the drive with some schnapps and called it a night.<br /><br />The next day, after nursing a hangover (or four) we pulled the rope out of the river and started processing it stretched it, dried it off, and packed it into tackle sacks to carry up the hill. <br /><br /><img src="35203746864_6eb7d8a4a2_z_d.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>Chris Densham removing rope from the river. Photo Elliott Smith.</em><br /><br /><img src="36001720426_75515fc88f_z_d.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>300m of rope packed into two tacklesacks (Katey Bender and Chris Densham). Photo Elliott Smith.</em><br /><br /><img src="35203752154_4517e4bc68_z_d.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /><br /><em>1km of rope disappeared into tacklesacks. Chris Densham and Katey Bender labelling bags. Photo Elliott Smith.</em><br /><br />Sunday evening we made the first of a couple of carries up the hill. As it turns out, 200m of rope is quite heavy; it was an ambitious first carry for me, but a good kickstart to the expo fitness regime. After the best intentions for a quick bounce carry on Monday morning followed by a shallow pushing trip in Balkonh&ouml;hle, Chris, Elliott and I ended up carrying in the morning then sitting in the sun all afternoon. This, however, was not a total loss as we managed to get all the kit sorted out for underground camp, meaning we were ready for the first camp the next day.<br /><br />Despite our best intentions Elliott and I were allocated to the first underground camp to Kraken, planned for 2 nights entering Tunnocks on Tuesday and exiting Thursday afternoon, as there were thunderstorms expected Thursday late afternoon/evening. After last years experience being flooded in on the way up from a camping trip, Chris and I werent too keen on spending another chilly night at the bottom of a flooded pitch. A 600m descent saw Elliott and I at camp for about 4pm. On the final 40m free hang&nbsp; the rope had, in fact, hit the bottom we had been slightly concerned after some not-so-confident noises from the team that had rigged down to camp. After leaving the ten in situ at the end of last year we werent expecting an easy set-up; the zips to the tent corroded shut, the puddle in the bottom of the tent and a good layer of mold were somewhat worse than expected. However, we soon drained the puddle, found use for a Therion protractor as an excellent mold-scraping tool, and sacrificed our spare buffs to mop up the remains and the bivi was soon back to a state fit for human habitation. Chris joined us a few hours later having fettled the rigging on the way down; we lit a few tea lights, had some dinner and settled in for a good n
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<div class="inner" id="msg_282608">The expo is nearly over and derigging had begun when I left on Tuesday (15th August). Lots of interesting stuff found: ice-covered walls deep in Happy Butterfly (or was it Fishface?), an open, very long, traverse lead in Balkon, a new cave with lots of prospects in Good Morning, just near the rather distant Organh&ouml;hle bivvy. <br /><br /><table class="bbc_table"><tr><td>But I&#039;ll leave all that to a proper wrap up post at the end of expo. What I want to write about is what it is like returning to expo after a gap of 34 years.<br /><br />I was on the last expo which camped at the lake at Altaussee (1982), and the first which stayed at Hilde&#039;s at Staudnwirt (1983).&nbsp; I was already 28 in 1982, and not nearly hard enough for the desperately long and cold trips to the bottom of&nbsp; Schnellzugh&ouml;hle (1623/115) - whose sump is still the deepest point in the SMK system.<br /><br />So what is different between now and then? Most impressive and immediate is the size of the operation, and the organisation of getting so many people and gear properly based at the Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle (204) bivvy site. The bivvy is &quot;only&quot; a couple of hours walk and scramble from the road-head but it supports 12-15 people continuously caving eating and sleeping, including supporting the underground camp in Tunnocksschaft and the further hour-distant surface camp at Organh&ouml;hle bivvy. A massive operation.<br /><br />The second great difference that struck me is in the standard of surveying: the exacting detail of the pencil and waterproof paper records in particular. Yes of course the laser ranging distos and Bluetooth automatic data capture are great, but it was the improvement in the manual processes which impressed me.<br /><br />I wasn&#039;t up to caving much: Becka gave me a 2-hour tourist trip down the first couple of pitches in Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle past a couple of snow plus to the top of the 3rd pitch, but while I could manage technically it was obvious that I was getting out of breath too quickly to be any use underground. Or maybe I am just much more sensitive to altitude (1800m) than I used to be. (Anyway, my SRT kit was carried up by Becka and down by Fleur, and gave the security people in Salzburg airport some amusement on my return. My 1980s-era furry suit was quite handy for days when top camp was in heavy cloud - even extending into the shelter itself when particularly thick.) Later on in my stay there were open leads near the surface in the new discoveries but I felt that it would be better to give the expo freshers the experience of new discovery.<br /><br />I was very glad to be able to get onto the plateau at all. When I had last been on expo in 1983 the closest I got was Wolfh&ouml;hle and various places on the Vord.- and Hinterer-Schwartzmoosk&ouml;gel. I suffered a number of &quot;plateau bites&quot; on knuckles, hands and knees as the rock is really very sharp - especially so when I was wandering off the main routes prospecting and getting lost. It is a magnificent place and everything is much further apart than it appears as the terrain is so unforgiving and complex.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></td><td><img src="dpGtHEa.jpg" alt="" width="480" class="bbc_img" /><br /><br /><br /><em>Kristian, Aidan and Radost in top camp. Camp beds are stored over winter and it sleeps 15 comfortably, and 22 in varying degrees of discomfort. {Click to see full-size image.}</em><br /></td></tr></table><br /><table class="bbc_table"><tr><td><br /></td><td><a href="TnReRcL.jpg" class="bbc_link" target="_blank"><img src="TnReRcL.jpg" alt="" width="400" class="bbc_img resized" /></a><br /><br /><br /><em>Partial view of the PV/car-battery Makita battery pack, phones, AAs and 18650 cell charging system at Steinbr&uuml;ckenh&ouml;hle bivvy. {Click to see full-size image.}</em><br /></td><td>As the expo resumed after the dinner at Hilde&#039;s, I took charge of the drill battery situation. There was a lot of frustration with dying Makita battery packs and co
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<div class="inner" id="msg_282764"><div align="center"><strong>End of Expo update</strong></div><br />Here&#039;s some photos (all by me, Becka Lawson) from the second half of expo and derigging and packing up at the end, written as I&#039;m trying to distract myself from a scarily fast drive back to the UK on the German Autobahn. <br /><br /><div align="center">Admiring a spectacular sunset from Top Camp.</div><div align="center"><img src="35876070473_34d0552613_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br />Adam Aldridge (AKA the Hoofed Animal) holding his &quot;mended&quot; hand-bolting driver after he unaccountably managed to shear the head off it. My favourite Adam story: late, after a drunken session at Base Camp, he swayed his way into the Tatie Hut and asked whether anybody knew if the Hilti SDS drill-bit grease was toxic because in the dark he&#039;d mistaken the tube for toothpaste and it&#039;d taken him a while to realise his mistake. <div align="center"><div align="center"><img src="36639419116_d070cea206_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div></div><br /><div align="center">Adam&#039;s hand after an accumulation of mishaps.</div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="35850686984_65b08d7166_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br /><div align="center">Rob and Jacob having just got out from our last underground camp of 2017 with the first of the rope and gear from the derig. We&#039;re hydrating at Top Camp before the two hour walk off the Plateau. </div><div align="center"><div align="center"><img src="36516504052_c719090210.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div></div><br />The rest of the underground derig went smoothly at the start of this week and the weather was mostly kind for packing up the Top Camp and Organhoehle Camp on the Plateau, for bringing gear down the hill and for washing and drying.<br /><br /><div align="center">Sitting at base camp with piles of freshly river-washed rope, checking for damage like rubs and glazing before measuring and relabelling.</div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="36516102662_fbf0ebb9b7_c.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br />Hilde Wilpernig, from the Gasthaus Staud&#039;n&#039;wirt, where she and her family have hosted our base camp for over thirty years now. When we said we&#039;d got an excess of eggs and milk Hilde offered to make us Kaiserschmarren (Emperor&#039;s pancakes) and homemade apple sauce. She even braved our mess tent to cook it. <br /><br /><div align="center">Here&#039;s Hilde, on the left, cooking </div><div align="center"><img src="36516111842_8fee8cf150_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><div align="center">and then everyone eating Kaiserschmarren</div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="36516116432_5b533a8138_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br /><div align="center">Kristian Brook in fine form, about to drive back to Leeds. In amongst many distinctive characters on Expo, this man still effortlessly stood out from the crowd.</div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="36516109202_032344eb39_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br /><div align="center"><div style="text-align: left;">Spectator sport as Rob Watson attempts to bring my SRT kit into the 21st century. This led to stressfully slippy knots whilst I was deep in Wildbader Hoehle, with my long cowstail creeping to what, to my alarm, seemed like two metres long as I dangled way beneath it.</div></div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="36685604275_e2988925b8_z.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br /><div align="center">Typical Tatie Hut scene with, oh, at least one person hard at work on the survey (interim print-outs of the survey on the wall).</div> <br /><div align="center"><img src="36685601265_efd486bbd2_c.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></div><br />I spent my last day on Expo cracking the whip for data entry, drawing up surveys and scanning and uploading data. We&#039;ve ended up with two floating surveys, arghhhhhh. Survey pocket 24, labelled &quot;SHIT&quot;, was the low point - appropriately it was in passage called &quot;Nothing to See&quot;. Jacob and Mike both
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