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<cave>
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<non_public>True</non_public><!-- 'False' or 'True'. True if the cave should only be visible to logged-in users. Caves are normally public, so enter 'False' unless you know otherwise. -->
<caveslug>1626-50</caveslug><!--(Required). Internal I.D. used to refer to this cave in entrance data files. Typically the same as the filebase, e.g. '1623-195' -->
<official_name>Ahnenschacht</official_name><!-- Name of the cave (normally in German) Use &uuml; for u+Umlaut and &ouml; for o+umlaut eg H&ouml;hle for Hohle and Gl&uuml;ck for Gluck-->
<area>1626</area><!-- e.g. "1623" -->
<kataster_code>3/S/T</kataster_code><!-- 'length-or-depth/type exploration'
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T Trockenh&ouml;hlen (Dry caves)
W Wasserh&ouml;hlen (Caves with water)
(W) Zeitweilig aktiv Wasserh&ouml;hlen (Caves with seasonal water)
E Eishohlen (Caves with ice formations)
S Schachth&ouml;hlen (Caves with pitches)
H Halbh&ouml;hlen (Rock shelters ?)
- unerforscht (unexplored)
= befahren (visited)
× teilweise vermessen (partly surveyed)
+ erforscht (exploration considered complete)
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<kataster_number>50</kataster_number> <!-- (Either this or unofficial_number is required). Official number in Austrian kataster if one has been allocated -->
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<entranceslug>1626-50</entranceslug><!-- Internal ID to refer to each entrance instance in the entrance files (typically the same as that filename (e.g. 1623-161c). Matches the 'slug' field in the entrance file -->
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<explorers></p><ul><li>Discovered by Upper Austrians in 1856.</li><li>The point -320m was reached by them in 1958.</li><li>In 1967 and 1968 the <a href="../../others/bec/index.htm">Bristol Exploration Club</a> reached -395m, the Horizontal network, with a length of 1 km, was discovered.</li><li>In 1972, 73, 74 and 75, the GSAB <span lang="fr">"Les Gours"</span> explored and discovered over 5km of passage and about 1500m of pitches. This got them to -612m.</li><li>We note also the participation, in 1974, of three clubs from Eastern France: <span lang="fr">S.C.Vesoul, G.S.Clerval &amp; S.S.Daules.</span></li><li>In 1975 CARSS joined a mini-expedition in July and likewise, CASEO in August.</li><li>A GSAB expedition in August 1977 connected a new entrance <span lang="de">(Frigoschacht)</span> at -130m, surveyed the Vegetable Garden and explored the new areas Yodl and KGB.</li><li><cite>Descent 176</cite> (Feb/Mar 2004) p18 states:<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, on the other side of the range, Upper Austrian cavers have undertaken some homework that others left behind a quarter of a century ago. <b>Ahnenschacht</b> (Ancestors' Shaft) was discovered in the 1950s and pushed to -395m. In the 1970s, Belgian cavers found vast horizontal passages amounting to about 5km in total &ndash; and a continuation to -602m. Their pushes came to an abrupt halt, however, when in 1975 a caver fractured his pelvis and had to be transported out of the cave. It was Austria's biggest cave rescue operation in the 20th century.</p><p>Since documentation of the Belgian finds was fragmentary and of very poor quality, some members of the <span lang="de">Verein f&uuml;r H&ouml;hlenkunde in Ober&ouml;sterreich</span> decided to fill in the gaps in the maps and resume surveying activities. So far, 1.7km have been accurately surveyed.</p><div style="text-align: right">Correspondent: Theo Pfarr</div></blockquote><p>(I fear attempting to reconcile the chronology of the above snippet with theinformation above is a hopeless task.)</p></li></ul><p></explorers><!-- 'CUCC Expo' and year(s) of exploration. To distinguish from caves explored by foreign groups. Individual names can be given too if it was a small cave. -->
<survex_file>caves-1626/50/50.svx</survex_file><!-- Name of top-level survey file for this cave. Relative to the 'loser' survex repository. So for most caves that's "caves-162x/cavenum/cavnum.svx". (e.g. caves-1623/204/204.svx -->
<underground_description></p><h4>Entrance series</h4><p>The entrance is in a small shakehole situated on the ridge separating <span lang="de">Feuertal</span> and <span lang="de">Hintergras.</span> The cave starts with four pitches (p14, p11, p5 and p11) which drop onto a slope formed of big boulders (rope desirable). After this, another series of small pitches (p9, p7, p6, p4, p10, p18, p11) from which is reached the <span lang="de">Sinterterrasse</span> at -141m.</p><p>From this point, one has left the zone of small pitches and started a series of pitches which in reality are part of a single shaft down to -400m.</p><p>Indeed, if you had an unfortunate accident on the <span lang="de">Sinterterrasse,</span> you would fall all the way to -400m. These pitches are usually wet, especially after rain... Here is the list of pitches: p25, <span lang="de">Schuppenstufe</span> 30, p10, <span lang="de">Sicherungsstufe</span> 32, <span lang="de">Schachtgabel</span> 48, a 10m ramp, <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span> 100m. On the <span lang="de">Josef Schacht,</span> a pendulum 6m from the top enables one to reach the entry to the Horizontal network. Descending the <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span> a little further, after a 6.5m and a 10m pitch, access can be gained to a wide canyon, active in the bottom, and which ends in a fissure. This canyon is fossil in the upper level and certainly presents possibilities for continuation.</p><h4>Lateral development from <span lang="de">Josef Schacht</span></h4><p>After one has crossed the "doorway" and a short squeeze, one enters the network proper. At this point is a passage covered in rather special formations. The first junction gives access to a network ... [unfortunately there are lines missing in my photocopy of <span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> 1]</p><h4>The Vegetable Garden</h4><p>This fossil system, which has not been fully travelled through, contains numerous possibilities. It is reached by three principal access routes: the pitch already mentioned; a descending fissure a little before the Belgica; and a sloping passage with formations in the Mammoth pitch chamber. The system is composed of a big chamber with numerous passages and junctions; it is very poorly known and no doubt houses many surprises. Continuing along the passage, one passes a step of 4m to find a junction, to the left at which lies the bivouac.</p><h4>Belgica system</h4><p>Directly after the bivouac, there is a 10m pitch, and at the bottom, a new junction: downhill the Belgica passage, of fairly small dimensions, which leads, after traversing past three holes, to a descent of an 8m and a 17m pitch and to the squeezes passed by our French colleagues.</p><p>Uphill, discovered by D.Motte and PIE, in the course of the expedition in 1974, is the <span lang="fr">Galerie de Francs Comtois.</span> This is a large ascending fossil passage interspersed with traverses, dips and pitches. It reascends to -90m. At -150m, a 20m pitch reaches the <span lang="fr">R&eacute;somega.</span></p><p>A little before the 20m pitch, a short descending canyon passage avoids the 20m pitch and the series of squeezes following it. The <span lang="fr">R&eacute;somega</span> is an alternately ascending and descending passage, very chaotic, interspersed with several junctions and pitches which leads to the <span lang="fr">Balcon du Visionnaire,</span> offering several possibilities. A 60m pitch gives onto another 60m pitch which is undescended. There is another big pitch in excess of 100m and an unfinished ascending passage. A little before, a 10m pitch allows one to reach a passage interspersed with 3 junctions and 7 exits ! This shows the level of complexity which we ran into.</p><p>It was also at the <span lang="fr">Balcon du Visionnaire</span> that an accident occurred in 1975, which terminated exploration in that year.</p><p>Back in the Horizontal network, and after passing a little bouldery climb an inlet is encountered, named The Bath. The passage continues a little longer, to end in a pitch. [ exploration incomplete ]</p><p>The
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<references></p><dl><dt>78.2012</dt><dd><cite>(GSAB) <span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> 1 (June 1977) pp 33-49</cite>, <b>Totes Gebirge : <span lang="fr">Description des principaux gouffres de la zone ouest du massif</span></b>, <span lang="fr">Jean Claude Hans &amp; Etienne Degrave</span><br /><a href="../../others/gsab/en/782012.htm#id117">English Translation</a><br /><a href="../../others/gsab/fr/782012.htm#id117" lang="fr">En Fran&ccedil;ais</a></dd><dt>79.1855</dt><dd><cite>(GSAB) <span lang="fr">Sp&eacute;alp</span> 3 (Oct. 1978) pp 44-45, survey</cite>, <b lang="de">Ahnenschacht 77/78</b>, Jean Pierre Braun<br /><a href="../../others/gsab/en/791855.htm">English Translation</a><br /><a href="../../others/gsab/fr/791855.htm" lang="fr">En Fran&ccedil;ais</a></dd></dl><p>The description was translated from the references by Andy Waddington and Jill Gates.</references><!-- References to documentation. Could be Journal articles or Logbook entries. Can be links if the docs are online. -->
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<kataster_status></kataster_status>
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<underground_centre_line></underground_centre_line><!-- 'In dataset' if it is in the survex dataset. Blank if not, or notes about status such as 'surveyed, but no entrance fix so not yet in dataset'. -->
<notes></notes><!-- Normally empty, but place for anything else that should be noted, such as info on cave maybe being a duplicate, or lost -->
<length></length><!-- Cave length. Can be left blank and system should fill it in automatically from survey data (it doesn't yet) -->
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<description_file></description_file><!-- Path of top-level description file for this cave, when a separate file is used. Otherwise blank. -->
<url>1626/50.htm</url><!-- (Required). Relative URL of this cave. i.e the URL this cave appears at on the website, not including 'https://expo.survex.com/. Normally area/cavenum., e.g ('1623/000')-->
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