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<tr><th width=20% align=left><font size=+2>161</font></th>
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<th width=60% align=center><font size=+2 lang=de>Kaninchenhöhle</font></th>
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<th width=20% align=right><font size=+2>5/S/E ×</font></th></tr>
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<p>Altitude: 1787m (at 161a), Depth 534m, Length 24485m after 1999 expedition
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<a name="entrances">Location</a>: <ul>
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<li><a href="bsains.htm#161a">161a</a> 13° 48' 50" E, 47° 40' 40" N
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<li>161a E 36467, N (52)82627, H 1787
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<li><a href="offtop.htm#161b">161b</a> E 36498, N (52)82540, H 1749
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<li><a href="france.htm#161c">161c</a> E 36508, N (52)82552, H 1750
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<li><a href="sftotp.htm#161d">161d</a> E 36858, N (52)82413, H 1620
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<li><a href="icelnd.htm#161e">161e</a> E 37122, N (52)82824, H 1663
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<li><a href="pheast.htm#161f">161f</a> E 37098, N (52)82774, H 1664
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<li><a href="136.htm">136</a> E 36379, N (52)82216, H 1792m (linked 1997)
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<p>On the limestone ridge between the <span lang=de-at>Hinterer</span> and
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<span lang=de-at>Vorderer Schwarzmooskogels</span>, about 200 metres up
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towards the <span lang=de-at>Hinterer</span> from the col, and
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about 20m down the east side of the ridge itself. The main
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<a href="bsains.htm#161a">161a</a> entrance shaft overlooks a gully
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dropping steeply SE towards <span lang=de-at>Augstwies See</span>. The
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<a href="offtop.htm#161b">161b</a> and <a href="france.htm#161c">161c</a>
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(French) entrances are close together about 75m to the SE, down the gully.
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Considerably further down the gully, a traverse is possible (somewhat
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engineered) to reach an area of recently fallen rock, where the "Scarface"
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<a href="sftotp.htm#161d">161d</a> entrance is located. Continuing the
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traverse, but regaining about 20m of height to the NE, the "exits" of 161f
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and then 161e can be reached.
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<p>Rather than adopting the usual approach of describing every side passage
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in the main description, which makes the 'normal' descent route hard to
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follow, this description describes each main route down the cave first,
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mentioning side passages only where necessary to make the correct main route
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clear. Various side passages and connecting routes are described
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subsequently, area by area. The directions left and right are always relative
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to travel in the direction of the description, compass directions are given
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where there is any ambiguity. Most passages are described going 'into the
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cave', on the assumption that this is how they will be first met. Some
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passages are described in both directions, either because it is difficult to
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follow them without getting into side leads, or because they form important
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links between different parts of the system, and may be traversed either way
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on various round trips.
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<p>The <b>clickable index</b> has developed into a
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<a href="names.htm">glossary</a>, which it is hoped will make it easier to
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find bits of the cave by name - <b>be warned</b>, this became so big that
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it was decided to split it up and it is now a <b>framed</b> page.
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<p>There are also <a href="pix.htm">virtual tours</a>, containing thumbnails
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of all the pictures of the caves. Although these pages are kept small, all
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the photos mean that they can require a <b>lot</b> of memory to load. The
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original comprehensive tour has been split into two, for the
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<a href="pixrh.htm">Right Hand Route</a>, and for passages most conveniently
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reached from the <a href="pixsf.htm">Scarface entrance</a>. Two new tours
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have been created for the <a href="pixlw.htm">Lost World</a> and Wheelchair
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Access, and for the new way into the Forbidden Land via
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<a href="pixss.htm"><span lang=de>Steinschlagschacht</span></a>.Each thumbnail on these tours
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links to a full-size version of the picture, and each full-size picture has
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links into the appropriate bit of the description.
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<h3>Exploration</h3>
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<p>Throughout the guide, the date of exploration is noted for each area.
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There is a <a href="histry.htm">history</a> page which can be used as a
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clickable index into the logbook write ups of all the 161 trips, so
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it should be easy to follow the exploration of any part of the cave.
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<b>Warning</b>, this was also getting too big and is now framed.
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<h2>Overview</h2>
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<p>The upper part of the system can be best thought of as a number of
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separate areas, each with its own vertical development. The more recently
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found extensive horizontal development, being easier to traverse, is
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generally better connected. Although there are various links between the
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vertical routes, a given destination will tend to have one 'obvious'
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approach. These areas are <a href="france.htm">France</a>, the
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<a href="lhr.htm">Left Hand Routes</a>, the <a href="rhr.htm">Right Hand
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Routes</a>, the southernmost part of the system reached via
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<a href="136.htm"><span lang=de>Steinschlagschacht</span></a>,
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routes from <a href="sftotp.htm">Scarface</a> entrance. So rapidly has
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exploration proceeded from Triassic Park that now more than half the total
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length is most conveniently reached via 161d.
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<p>The key to all the deepest and most remote parts of the system is
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the huge collapse chamber of Knossos. This was reached from the 161a
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entrance via the Right Hand Route, and now via the 161d
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<a href="sftotp.htm#161d">"Scarface"</a> entrance through
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<a href="triasp.htm#triasp">Triassic Park</a>. This provides a much easier
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route in, making trips to the further reaches less strenuous. From Knossos,
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horizontal trunk passage leads north, giving access first to a series of
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<a href="deepwy.htm">deep vertical systems</a>, and further on to complex
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areas of rifts and old passages. A significant horizontal route leading
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northwest, <a href="sibria.htm#siberia">Siberia</a>, has only been pushed as
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a result of the new entrance, but has yielded a new deep point to the cave.
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There appear to be deep vertical leads in the far north, too, though they
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have mostly been avoided by a series of "mental" tyroleans and bolt
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traverses.
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<h2>Tourist trips</h2>
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<p>It is still probably some way off the time when one might choose a
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tourist trip on the basis of its "classic" quality. Mostly, choices
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available depend on what is rigged this year for exploratory purposes.
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This will usually only include one main route into an area, so trips
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like a Left Hand Route / Garden Party or Drunk & Stupid exchange
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will not be easy. Similarly, the original classic Right Hand Route /
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Dreamtime exchange was only really possible during the exploration of
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the latter, before the Squeeze was bypassed and this modified RHR
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became the trade route.
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<p>However, now that <a href="sibria.htm#knossos">Knossos</a> is accessible
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from the Scarface entrance, this has opened up the possibilities for a whole
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raft of pull-through trips with a minimum of pre-rigging. The one fly in the
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ointment is the relative difficulty of surface travel between the 161d and
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upper entrances. The route used in 1996 seems to be good enough to have
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become a trade route, and after one benightment through loss of the route in
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1997, it has been very well marked with cairns.
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<p>Already possible is the 161c to 161d through trip via France. In the
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future, pull-throughs of LHR, Garden Party or Drunk and Stupid should all be
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possible via Ambidextrous. Right Hand Route or Dreamtime give access to
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Knossos. Care must be taken, however, not to try rapelling down any of the
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plethora of routes which <b>don't</b> connect into the Knossos area.
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<p>As in the more famous <b lang=fr>Dent du Crolles</b> system, route-finding
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errors on bridge-burning trips could entail a long wait for someone to figure
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out where you went !
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<h2>Structure</h2>
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<p><a href="svlinx.htm">Line plots</a> of the cave give some idea of it's
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shape, extent and structure.
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<p>The main entrance at 1787m drops to a major sub-horizontal level at
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1720-1750m, containing the large passages of <a href="bsains.htm#bigsain">Big
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Sainsbury's</a> and its continuation into the upper part of <a
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href="dream.htm#dreamtime">Dreamtime</a>, and the smaller passages of the <a
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href="offtop.htm#rabbitw">Rabbit Warren</a> and the French entrances <a
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href="offtop.htm#161b">161b</a> and <a href="france.htm#161c">161c</a>. From
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this level a number of vertical routes drop to another significant
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sub-horizontal level dipping from around 1700m in the SW of the system
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(upper part of France) to around 1600m where this level is lost in the roof
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of <a href="sibria.htm#knossos">Knossos</a>. [This is probably debatable, as
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Boulder Alley from Poxy Pitch downwards is probably in a fault rift].
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<p>Multiple, predominantly vertical, routes drop to the cave's most important
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sub-horizontal passages around 1540m in the area below the entrance dipping
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to c1510m in <a href="sibria.htm#tblocks">Tower Blocks</a> and the start of
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<a href="sibria.htm#yapate">YAPATE</a>. This is a major fossil passage rising
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up the dip to the NNE, and continuing as <a href="sibria.htm#cfn">Chicken
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Flied Nice</a> to c1540m where complexity increases. The major horizontal
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development in France is entered at c1550m, with the lowest passages down to
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1480m. The major trunk route through Triassic Park is between 1560 and 1620m,
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and this level is also lost in what is presumed to be the roof of Knossos.
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<p>Whilst none of the routes below the entrance area get below about 1480m,
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there are a series of interconnecting shafts dropping below YAPATE and
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Chicken Flied Nice ending at or just above 1290m in sumps or tightness. The
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original deepest point, at the bottom of Flapjack, is at 1289m, 498m below
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the main entrance. Passages to the northwest led through a bitterly cold,
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draughty passage known as <a href="sibria.htm#siberia">Siberia</a>, which was
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left well alone until access via 161d made it easier. It was pushed in 1997
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and 1998 down two very large pitches to a new deep point 534m below the 136
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entrance at 1258m altitude.
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<p>There is just one section of <a href="deepwy.htm#elevel">horizontal
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level</a> at c1400m, which is not very extensive to date, and similarly a
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tantalising glimpse of what appears to have been very large trunk passage
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below 1300m in Siberia, but this is comprehensively choked in both
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directions.
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<p>This overview is currently mostly updated to reflect exploration to 1995,
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though the line plots are up to 1996.
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<p><b>Exploration</b>: CUCC 1988-98<br>
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