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<h1>Expo 2012</h1>
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-07-29a">2012-07-29</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Julia Bradshaw, Anthony Day, Martin Green,
Jessica Stirrups, Emma Wilson</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">Holy Bondage</div>
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<p>
On this date, with the exchange of geartape Julia "the bloke" Bradshaw
and Dour "the beardy one" Day were in the sanctity of the tattiehut
joined in Holy Bondage until the day that one or the other fall apart.
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<p>Registrar: Martin Green<br>
Witnessed: Jessica Stirrups<br>
Emma Wilson<br>
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<pre>
Rope for rigging down to pushing in 204
A => 48 (up), 30, +70 (up) [Last item annnoted 'wrong' in pencil]
King Carbide => 50/60
Brians phat shaft => 82+30
Painted Lady => ~30m
Puss in bolts + on the prowl traverse => 30+27, rope protector,
deviation
Fat Cat => 80, (or 25,45,12) may need more for swing off -> log book
states "QMA would require swing & prob more rigging to assist swing"
Actual ropes => A: 41m, 11mm, chop from 92m
King Carbide: chop from 92m 10mm
Brians : 92 + 38 11mm
Painted Lady => 140m 10mm
Puss in bolts => 34 9mm
On the prowl => 29 9mm
Fat Cat => 140 10mm
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-07a">2012-08-07</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u> Serena</div>
<div class="triptitle">Wook comes out in the Wookmobile</div>
<p>
Wook & Serena filled the van with lots of food & gear & set off for
expo. Remarkably traffic-free trip in the UK & across europe. Relised
at dover that we'd failed to bring a map of europe in physical or
digital form, so did a quick download + make plan on cheap UK data.
Worked very well offline so failed to get lost at all. Had 4hrs kip
en-route.
</p><p>
Very hot all the way here until thunderstorms from Reid in Imkreis
onwards. _Very_ wet. Got to Bad Aussee having heard that there was a
big concert on but traffic had cleared. Main Rd to Grundlesee was
closed & we were sent the back way, only to find it was totally packed
with drenched pedestrians & vehicles coming the other way. Eventually
got to the main rd to find totally stationary traffic. Went nowhere
for about half an hour before finally inching down to camp site which
was utterly heaving.
</p><p>
Left 5:30pm, arrived 9:30pm.
</p>
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-03a">2012-08-03</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Martin</u> Frank</div>
<div class="triptitle">Rigged Tunnockschacht entrance pitches</div>
2014-05-12 02:41:13 +01:00
<p>[No text]</p>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-04a">2012-08-04</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Martin</u> Jess, Dour, Frank</div>
<div class="triptitle"></div>
<p>Martin rigged Fat Cat and explored the wrong way to solution pocket 8m
long & 10m high
</p><p>
Dour sat at the top for 3hrs and got quite cold.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 8hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-01">2012-08-01</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Anthony</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">Rigging 204</div>
<p>
Rigged the entrance pitch to 204. Found that the snow was quite low.
My spanner made a descent of the 2nd pitch, at which point I went out
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 1hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-04b">2012-08-04</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Frank</u></div>
<div class="triptitle"></div>
<p>
Popped down the hole to top of Fat Cat. Jess pointed me towards Emmas
alternative hole, using backup of Fat Cat started on a quick pootle
downhill. Realised quite quckly I'd been sandbagged into a hard
bolting nightmare. No slings so cut end off rope to make one and head
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down in tight rift.</p>
<p>
Ended in rift that opened, placed bolt and headed down. Some minor
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rubs that probably didn't damage the rope... Found a nice looking
natural and destroyed it one hit. Didn't make the mistake a second
time and cut end off rope to make a sling, arrived at sharp eyehole
2014-05-12 02:41:13 +01:00
looking for deviation - Jess called down from Emma's 'actual' hole
'which was nice'. Lost confidence in rock after dinner-plate fell off,
taking note of natural above. Made 'Y' hang but [unreadable] with hand
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bolts. Wish I had not lost drill bit at bivvy.</p>
<p>PS pitch heads back under and appears to connect to Fat Cat pitch.
2013-06-15 21:43:38 +01:00
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2013-06-18 05:00:42 +01:00
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-04c">2012-08-04</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Emma</u>, Holly</div>
<div class="triptitle">204 -> Fat Cat</div>
<p>Went down to fat cat to attempt to rig pitch so we could swing off
into "window". Holly placed 3 Hiltis to put us in a nice place for
hang to near window. Had Hilti setting issues -> wasn't sure about
setting of last one.</p>
<p>When I went down I forgot the hammer so decided it was time to
leave. Exited the cave in v. exciting wet conditions as there was a monster storm on the surface - Holly bravely went first, We got soaked but it was passable.</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 9.5hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-05a">2012-08-05</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Emma</u>, Holly</div>
<div class="triptitle">204 -> Fat Cat</div>
<p>Back to fat cat to set the last hilti & drop down. Dropped pitch to near survey stn 14 of fat cat survey. Saw window on way down that Holly managed to rig rope to -> Just a pocket at horizontal level but climb up with QMA above.</p>
<p>Also dropped pitch below window -> led to scrotty passage which opened upa bit QMB at end & QMA with V. good draft & possible pitch on left. Nice dry on way out today :-) </p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 12hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-05b">2012-08-05</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Julia</u></div>
<div class="triptitle"></div>
<p>7th of August 2012 on which day we learn that leaving one's spare van key inside the van is not a smart idea ...</p>
<p>Dour could not be swayed by the temptation of a piss-up in town, he was tempted by the dark side, and by Emma-the-keen. So the alarm went off at 6.30am. He jumped out of his pit and stuck his head back into the tent shortly later to say goodbye. Fair enough I suppose, going caving on a caving expedition...</p>
<p>I meanwhile slept off two consecutive seshes and crawled out of my pit at 10:50. To find Dunks, Noel and Frank standing around the cars having a giggle. The giggling increased significantly when I tried the van door. Dour-the-organised, having borrowed my van key first thing, and meaning to give it back when he came over to say goodbye. Instead got a lift up the road and walked all the way to top camp before realising he still had the key in his pocket. DOH.</p>
<p>Not being able to drive the van for a day or so probably wouldn't be the end of the world (after all, this is only the second expo I've been on with my own driving licence). but I gradually worked out that the ever-lengthening list of things left in the van included pills, wallet, walkingboots, maps, day rucksack, walking pole etc. Crap. Dour found the van key <u>after</u> Holly and Stuart had set off walking so couldn't send it down the hill with them. Several phone calls later, as I sat trying to plan my day (baring in mind the street party tonight and subsequently written-off tomorrow), remembering more and more useful shit that was locked in our van, a solution was found. But there was much grumbling in certain quarters.</p>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-02">2012-08-02</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Duncan</u>, Dour, Emma, Jess, Frank</div>
<div class="triptitle">Rigging King Carbide</div>
<p>Grand plans for rigging all the way to Fat Cat were scuppered by dint of us spending a while convincing ourselves that we were actually at K Carbide, then adding second bolt to make the rig more suitable for a trade route.</p>
<img src="logbkimg3.png" alt="Riging diagram for King Carbide"> <p>Finally we got started onBrian's Phat Shaft, but the deviation bolt couldn't be found and we decided to come back tomorrow</p>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-03b">2012-08-03</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Duncan</u>, Dour, Emma, Jess, OllyM</div>
<div class="triptitle">Rigging King Carbide</div>
<img src="logbkimg4.png" alt="Riging diagram for Brian's Phat Shaft">
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-07b">2012-08-07</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Anthony</u>, Wookey</div>
<div class="triptitle">Pushing near Fat Cat</div>
<p>Text missing</p>
2013-06-18 05:00:42 +01:00
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-03c">2012-08-03</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">101</div>
<p>
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Decided to have a quick look in 101 to see what it did. Much as described in 1977, pitches all free climbable. Just after 101 and 101a join there is a tight pitch lead to the right into a canyon - we didn't descend. Followed to near the end in 1977 - gets quite small, but continues. Another small tube leads off to right - Olly went for a short way down this and it continues.</p>
<p>
2013-06-18 05:00:42 +01:00
Got out survey kit, discovered the disto battery was flat. Didn't survey... passage is roughly SSW and descending slightly.
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Walked back via looking for 99-OB-01 which we found. Easy to locate if you assume Schoenberg bearing is for 2 peaks further east, and Zinken is a different peak.</p>
<p>
2013-06-18 05:00:42 +01:00
Lesson learnt - check disto batteries.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 1hr 40</div>
2013-06-18 05:32:09 +01:00
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-04d">2012-08-04</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">82 and 85</div>
<p>
I was still feeling full of cold so we went to have a poke at the dig at the end of 82's top level. Olly successfully dug and got more passage, but sadly it didn't go very far - I suspect it is too near the surface. While I sat on the surface and coughed, Olly had a look at 85, and concluded that there is still a lead.
</p><p>
Went back into 82 and surveyed the new bit.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U 3 hrs J, 3:30 Ol</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-05b">2012-08-05</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">157</div>
<p>
Olly rigged and bolted down 157. We went down the parallel rift and concluded the bolts of unknown origin spotted in 1987 are not in 107. Cave doesn't continue. We surveyed out, via a brief warm up on the surface. On redescending Olly realised his rack was still underground. Opps! Fortunately I could rescue it for him! We didn't descend the main shaft as it was quite full of snow. There is also another parallel rift we didn't visit.
</p><p>
Lesson learnt: don't prussic out leaving your rack behind.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U 4:15</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-07g">2012-08-07</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">2012-70 Doppel Gemse Hohle</div>
<p>
This cave is right by the path to 204 ~ opposite 157. one day this cave would have had a long section of big passage heading for 107, but is today missing much of it's roof. Off this main 'passage' are several short sections of cave heading off. Sadly they all either get too small, end, or are choked with rocks. Surveyed most of it - will go back and finish off later.
</p><p>
(The cave name is because we saw a pair of gemse twice on the way).
<p>
<div class="timeug">T/U 5:15</div>
2013-06-20 05:36:52 +01:00
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-09c">2012-08-09</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">83 - original route</div>
<p>
Went into 83, put some new bolts in, but rigged as a pushing rig, assuming we'd only spend a day here. Got into the big rift but needed more rope than expected due to re-belays and an almost non-existent snow pile.
</p><p>
Walked down the big rift until we got near the bottom, took the phreatic passage on the left like in 1977. Pitch was lovely 32m of freehang to a big chamber, as expected the route didn't continue, but we could survey out to connect any new stuff too. Sadly the survey pencil was rubbish, and the 2 spares I was carefully carrying were broken. Olly managed to take notes up the pitch and I derigged it. We then headed home, planning to return with a pencil the next day.
</p><p>
Lesson learnt: don't carry broken pencils.
</p>
<div class="timeug">TU 3:30h J, 3:50h Ol</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-08b">2012-08-08</div>
<div class="trippeople">Jenny, <u>OllyB</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">Looking on the surface between 1987-02 and 82</div>
<p>
Decided to see if we could drop back into the trunk passage seen in 1987-02 and the top level of 82 somewhere in between, taking the obvious approach of walking between them. This doesn't work well as the terrain is very broken, but we found what is likely to be the skylight entrance to 1987-02, a postcard on balloons from Italy, and a few scrotty tubes to crawl into.
</p>
<div class="timeug">TU: OllyB 0:20</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-10c">2012-08-10</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">83 - Duncing in the dark</div>
<p>
Went back to 83 planning to look at the bolt traverse over the 32m pitch, as this was likely to be a short trip and the last in 83, we didn't re-rig the entrance pitch and we set an 8pm call out.
</p><p>
Olly did a great job bolting over the pitch and on. I took a few photos and eventually followed along. The bolt traverse was great fun. At the end was an ~8m pitch with a slope/climb up the back wall which sadly didn't go. At the top of this short pitch, Olly spotted an alcove on the left, so bolted into that, and climbed up into the roof tube. We realised there was nowhere near enough time to explore, survey and derig by 8pm. So we surveyed out as far as the main chamber and made our 8pm callout by ~15 minutes. Left the cave rigged for 1 final trip.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 7:15</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-11c">2012-08-11</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">83 - Thunder Road, Under a Rock</div>
<p>
Went back to 83 for our final trip to look at the roof tube beyond the bolt traverse and survey the entrance bit. I got part way along and realised I had left the grease syringes on the surface, Olly wasn't yet on the bolt traverse so kindly popped out to get them.
</p><p>
Got into the roof tube, which is called <u>Thunder Road</u> due to the thunder we heard there on the 10th. I took off my SRT kit and wiggled along the passage which rapidly became more rift like. Olly wasn't keen to follow, so sat with the notebook while I shouted back numbers. The passage went for ~30m trending uphill. Near the end was a short section of walking passage followed by a low crawl. Then a drippy aven on the R and a pitch on the left. I surveyed back from here. I suspect it is near the surface.
</p><p>
Derigged back to entrance chamber and began to survey out. Checked the bottom of the rift and it is, as you would expect chossy and connects with the p32. Then, about 1 survey leg up from the p32 passage Olly potted a low passage going off under a rock, names <u>Under a Rock</u>, passage gets to a pitch, which we could carefully traversed round. Next was a short section of lovely big phreas, heading up to a choke. There were a few bits of leaves and pine cones - presumably near another entrance. Right from the pitch went less far. Combined tactics got me up a short climb which led up to a choke, again with leaves. I thought i could smell outside.
</p><p>
Surveyed back to entrance chamber, and left the cave.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: Jenny 7hrs, Olly 6:50</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-11c">2012-08-10</div>
<div class="trippeople"><u>Wookey</u>, Rob</div>
<div class="triptitle">204/161 Connection traverse re-rigging + push
in 161</div>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 17hrs</div>
<p>Went down to the connection to turn the 'exploratory' rigging into
something suitable for mere mortals. Took drill + 3batteries + hand
bolting kit &amp; leftover nasty red ropes. Spent some hours re-doing the
1st traverse to go higher along line of shelf. Rob did all the
bolting &amp; seemed to enjoy himself. Added 3 or 4 there, another on
up-bit to remove rub &amp; Y-hang the end. Only possible by replacing
27m white rope with red as we went. Then put rope on climb and 2 more
bolts in 2nd traverse. Went to the bad step which was already bolted
&amp; put in climb line &amp; traverse line over bridge + step. All
this took quite some time so it was getting late &amp; our enthusiasm
somewhat dimmed, but we should at least take a look-see having got
here. Headed on down March of the ents, noting that most of the wind
came in from the 50m pitch QM - Interesting spot. Carried on to
rivendell &amp; the stables and rigged little climb round the corner
on a couple of dodgy naturals. Didn't have enough rope to do it
properly (or the enthusiasm).</p>
<p>Wandered along a bit and took a look down QM [fill in] which had a
fine breeze at the top. Very silly sloping 'pitch'. Our 27m rope got
us down past one traverse level to overlook more rift, but still at
least 6m tothe flor &amp; not shinnable. So surveyed out, teaching Rob
distoX usage. Seemed to be no draught at the bottom, so the wind
presumably comes from across the top somewhere. We called it soilathon.</p>
<p>Took a look further down l[blank-for-name] shinning round various
things and poking one hole (goes to a pitch). Eventually got to a
dead-end at Mad Dogs and marvelled at the very hard-looking C5 into
the roof which the survey claimed was the way on. As it was after
midnight &amp; we were knackered (especially Rob) we were glad of
excuse to go home &amp; slowly came out, regretting hoiking 3 batts
down here, and taking about 5hrs to exit @5am. (It <u>is</u> quite a
long way). Curry felt well-deserved.</p>
<p>Traverse Rig<br/>FAR FROM SUPPORT - 2 TRAVERSES:
[2 diagrams, annotated 'left rigged']
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<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-12c">2012-08-12</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">83 - Under a Rock, Down Under</div>
<p>
Went back into Under a Rock and dropped the pitch. The bottom was a tall rift, up didn't go far, the way the water flows rapidly got too narrow. We followed the 3rd way on, up a short climb and down the other side (via a bolt). We scrambled further down and down some more to find ourselves back at the bottom of the p32. Olly was amused at where we were, I was annoyed. But at least our loop closure was good!
</p><p>
Went back to entrance chamber to survey out. Olly spotted a hole thru' some rocks. It drafted so we pulled some rocks out. We couldn't easily make the gap big enough, so tried a meter or so higher up. I managed to get through, and amazingly got under and through a window into another passage underneath <u>Down Under</u>, removed more rocks so Olly could follow me through. Followed the passage past a squeeze and a climb down. Found ourselves above a reasonable sized passage ~5m above. Didn't look climbable down, but I could traverse over. Did this to another 6m drop into the same passage, but excitingly could see a snow plug. We wondered if this was 107. Surveyed out and up to the tag bolt.
</p><p>
Scrambled in 107 on the way back and saw a similar looking snow plug. Down the hill the survey data confirms we connected! Not as impressive as The Connection, but we have made 107 ~9m deeper (by the CUCC way) and ~500m longer.
</p>
<div class="timeug">TU: 7:40hrs Jenny, 7:30hrs Olly</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-15d">2012-08-15</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">83 - derig and survey</div>
<p>
Went back to 83 for the actual final trip. I retrieved the rigging gear while Olly sketched the entrance chamber. I derigged and swung across to look at side tubes. One near the top generated another ~15m of passage.
</p><p>
Finished de-rigging. [rigging diagram in original]
</p>
2013-06-26 06:35:38 +01:00
<div class="timeug">T/U: 2.5hrs</div>
2013-06-26 06:20:27 +01:00
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-15e">2012-08-15</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">148 rig</div>
<p>
Went to 148 and rigged in the first 4 pitches (i.e. to just before deep space). I'd forgotten how cold and drafty 148 is.
</p>
2013-06-26 06:35:38 +01:00
<div class="timeug">T/U: 2.5hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-17b">2012-08-17</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">148 rigging</div>
<p>
Went to 148 with 100+m of rope, hangers and a drill. Tweaked the rigging on the way in to add a bolt on pitch 2 -> clowns are a poor hanger choice for free hanging rebelays! Also changed natural backups and things. Olly rigged down deep space (and hated using a stop more than hating using a rack) After much swinging about with too much gear he gave up looking for the deviation and came back up. I had a go and managed to find it eventually - a sling on a nose of rick behind you. Must be more than 5 years since I last rigged but I mostly remembered what to do. Except I was slow and failed to find the next few bolts. Safely got to the asteroid belt and found more bolts. Olly came down too and we rigged on to the pushing front. Olly found the missing bolts on the way out.
</p><p>
The pitch heads are nasty and tight, but things look better deeper down. Got out surprisingly fast (1hr 40) despite bimbling.
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 6.5hrs</div>
2013-06-20 05:36:52 +01:00
2013-07-01 02:24:25 +01:00
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-20b">2012-08-20</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">148 Deep Space pushing trip</div>
<p>
Finally, after a five year wait it was time to go beyond the Asteroid Belt in Deep Space (148). Got down to the pushing front fairly quickly, and Olly proceeded to rig our 200m of rope down. First pitch was long (as we knew from dropping rocks) ~60m, most rocks had also gone down the next short pitch too. The pitch after that one was also short, and just round the corner. Basically cave is a very high rift with a little trickle of water down the back. Next pitch was longer + spray lashed at base. Next very short pitch wetter still. Then there was a little bit of horizontal to the following (dry) short pitch, and the same again to the next. Olly got to the bottom of that with 4m rope left, 4 hangers and 4 hiltis, and the cave changed to being horizontal. How is that for careful planning and frugal rigging!
</p><p>
Walked/bridged along the rift passage until we hit a boulder choke. I hypothesised that this was the altitude that 107, 97, 82 end at, but actually we were ~40m higher. Olly spotted that the water went under the choke in a little trench. I took off my SRT kit and Olly moved some rocks out. With some effort I managed to wriggle through with the water, under the boulders. Inside the choke I could stand up and cautiously climb up and out the other side! Short passage off to right into another choke (upstream). Downstream to left continued some way, so I went back to get Olly. Olly managed to get through too, and we headed off to explore. Followed downstream, down a climb and to a pitch. Surveyed out from here. Looked at a climb up on the right (going out) which goes up into an aven with black space above - so might be possible to go over the boulder choke. Surveyed back to above the final pitch, then began the long route out. Got out safely and before dawn, what more can you ask for?
</p>
<div class="timeug">T/U: 15.25hrs</div>
<div class="tripdate" id="t2012-08-21c">2012-08-21</div>
<div class="trippeople">OllyB, <u>Jenny</u></div>
<div class="triptitle">107 entrance</div>
<p>
Got up late after yesterdays trip, but needed an early ngiht ready for goign to Eishohle the next day, so planned a short trip into 107. Olly placed a bolt backup and then a hang bolt - managed to get a free hang just. Didn't spot the 1978 spit until a later trip - it is a bit higher than ours, but woudl rub. Entrance shaft bells out, and has several possible leads high up. Landed near the snow plug we could see from 83 (Down Under).
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Had an explore, realsied the 1978 survey has teh wrong angle for the side passages, and that teh projected elevation has teh plan lengths and vica versa. Area is a little mreo complex with various tubes goign off - all the ones we looked at either ended or conenctted with the pitch below. We planned to survey but got cold as it was realyl drafty.
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